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In this episode, Craig and Kevin talk about the top 5 happiest places to live according to WalletHub. There are some really interesting trends we found in the list, and are curious to see what your thoughts are as well. While happiness is a subjective thing, WalletHub has a scale to which they ranked 182 cities across the United States.

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KEVIN

211. This is episode number 211 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're so glad you could join us for another episode here live from The Homeowner Show studios. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

I'm good. How are you?

CRAIG

Wunderbar, darling.

KEVIN

I don't even know what you just said.

CRAIG

I think it's from Green Acres.

KEVIN

I think it is too. Now that you say that, I'm like, that sounds exactly like Green Acres is the place to be.

CRAIG

Keep it going.

KEVIN

Farm living is the life for me.

CRAIG

Bring it home, Kev.

KEVIN

I'm not gonna keep going. It's, it's all done.

CRAIG

Ah, I have exciting news.

KEVIN

Okay, bring it.

CRAIG

2 Bourbon Craig. Oh, it's making a return, man. By the end of the show, he may even be 3 Bourbon Craig.

KEVIN

We are, y'all, we are in for a treat because this is my favorite Craig.

CRAIG

Mine too.

KEVIN

Mine too.

CRAIG

Yeah. So I, I have a— I actually have a correction To offer from last week. Oh, or last episode. That's not fair. Last episode.

KEVIN

Let okay.

CRAIG

When we were talking with Farrah, yes. And we I think we talked about Cinco de Mayo.

KEVIN

We did.

CRAIG

And then I started talking about how France was involved with the American Civil War.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Which is true, but only kind of. Okay. So expound. They had an official position of neutrality.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

But there was a lot of shenanigans going on between private citizens and unrecognized ambassadors from the Confederacy. So apparently, at one point in time, the ambassador from the Confederacy, and I think it was like John Slidell, I think was his name, secured a loan for like $15 million.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

From an individual in France in order to purchase ships for the Confederate Navy.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

So, and here's the thing. Here's the part that I think this is where the homunculus in my brain was actually connecting the dots, because here's what's happened in— let's see, where was it?

KEVIN

Oh, West Philadelphia, born and raised.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

On a playground.

CRAIG

Not even close.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah. Okay. So in 1864, because France had an official position of neutrality in the American Civil War, they invaded Mexico. Oh, and set up a puppet dictator named Maximilian. Oh, that, that's where Maximilian comes in, which they ousted, of course, on Cinco de Mayo. 2 years later.

KEVIN

And, and this is where we come into the full circle. The full circle. Yeah.

CRAIG

So, yeah.

KEVIN

Who— so here's the question. Did you go research that or did someone point you out?

CRAIG

No. I went and researched that. Okay. Because, like, as I— like, I remember talking about it during the show and I was like, you're saying stuff, but you don't know what you're talking about.

KEVIN

Right?

CRAIG

Like, you really don't know what you're talking about.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

And— but, like, there was—

KEVIN

there was 90% of our show.

CRAIG

Well, but, like, it was— that's true.

KEVIN

But I was—

CRAIG

I mean, in my head I'm going like, okay, like, I know that there's something to this, and like, I know there's a reason my brain is connecting these dots. I just couldn't remember why.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and there it is.

KEVIN

That's it.

CRAIG

That's the thing.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

So yeah, we were, we were all kind of talking about the same thing.

KEVIN

Yeah. One, one thing you're not going to get me to talk about is history and geography.

CRAIG

And geography.

KEVIN

I, I really enjoy history, Now, I really hated it growing up.

CRAIG

Really?

KEVIN

Yes, because it was always like the, um, the crappy football coach that got stuck teaching history, and it was like, fill this paper out and I'm gonna work on plays, is how that worked.

CRAIG

See, I had a totally different experience. I mean, like, I think some of my most passionate teachers when I was in school were history teachers.

KEVIN

So that all changed for me when I was in my freshman year of college. And I had a teacher who was super passionate about it, and it was actually my favorite class. Um, I loved it. And over the years, I've enjoyed it more. Sure, man. I, I did not learn very much up until then as far as I go in geography. Like, good luck, man.

CRAIG

I think, I think that's fair. I think like when you're in grade school, middle school, high school, I mean, it's pretty much survey kind of stuff. Yeah, you know. Oh yeah. But like when you get to, when you get to college, I think, is when you really get to kind of dig in a little bit deeper into some of the more interesting aspects of what history is actually comprised of.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And this was one of the ones for me. I mean, like, the American Civil War, I mean, was just, you know, so many people want to reduce it down to such simple things, and it's just not a simple thing.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

You know, and so like, like even when you, when you start looking at like the way that other countries, uh, treat— as I was reading about this, it was like France wanted to intervene to end the Civil War, um, but they couldn't get a coalition of superpowers to agree with them. Like Britain and Russia wanted the war to continue.

KEVIN

Hmm.

CRAIG

They didn't like that the US was, you know, when they were together, that they were actually powerful and influential.

KEVIN

They wanted the—

CRAIG

they, they liked the fact that they were fighting. Um, so it was interesting stuff, man. So anyway, just wanted to offer that, that slight correction to my— because there were a lot of people, I promise you, my BS historical rantings from, from last episode.

KEVIN

There were so many people that were like, that Craig is wrong, he's so wrong right now.

CRAIG

Well, that's every episode.

KEVIN

Yeah, we, we could have gotten emails We could have. We didn't.

CRAIG

We didn't.

KEVIN

No, not about that.

CRAIG

Not even from my cousin, who's actually like a professional historian.

KEVIN

Oh, so and he would have been well within his right, but he would have been had to be listening. I may have.

CRAIG

He's he's a very sweet person, so he may have just been like, "It's not worth it." Eh, we all know he's a moron. He's probably you know like he's probably right. It just wasn't worth his time. He's got he's got fifth graders that have way more potential.

KEVIN

That's funny.

CRAIG

Than me.

KEVIN

Hey, so, uh, at some point we're going to have to, uh, do a review on something that I just got a notification about.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Which is that my dryer has completed its cycle.

CRAIG

Oh, it just told you?

KEVIN

Yep, my clothes are dry.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's awful polite of it.

KEVIN

It's, it's pretty amazing actually.

CRAIG

Pretty swanky dryer you got there, you know.

KEVIN

Go big or go home.

CRAIG

Talking to you across the interwebs all the way over here.

KEVIN

Exactly. So what it really is—

CRAIG

Did you use a good font?

KEVIN

No, it's normal. What, what, uh, what is really great is then I can just text my wife and say, dryer's done. You got the same notification, but you didn't pay attention. That's how that goes.

CRAIG

So just like a normal dryer.

KEVIN

Yes, exactly. There's really no difference except that now I've got annoying notifications on my watch. No, it's actually really, really good. So we'll have to do a, a review on it.

CRAIG

What's the brand?

KEVIN

It's Maytag.

CRAIG

Maytag. Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah, I— we went through a lot of iterations of what we were going to do before we landed on this, and there are nuances to all that. So it's a— it'll be a good episode, I'll put it that way, because there's, there's a lot of things to consider.

CRAIG

Here's the one thing I know about Maytag right now.

KEVIN

What's that?

CRAIG

The new guy that's, uh, the blue repairman, uh-huh, is the cop from Eureka.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

You ever watch that show?

KEVIN

I never did, but I, I kind of have an idea of— I, now that you say that, I, I, I see the guy. Uh-huh. Okay, I, I can, I can— okay.

CRAIG

I kind of feel like it's a demotion, but good for him, he's working.

KEVIN

He's making money as the repair guy. He's not a repair guy. Maytag guy's one installing the Maytag.

CRAIG

Well, but that's, that's the whole— that's the whole thing. It's like you don't need a repairman. You don't need a repairman.

KEVIN

Exactly. Yeah.

CRAIG

But he's the Maytag repairman.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, so he's a funny actor. I don't know why. I mean, like, I guess it's a good gig. I mean, maybe hopefully he's making good money. Sure. He made— he had a good role on Eureka. If you— dude, if you haven't ever watched that, that's a good show.

KEVIN

I've never watched it.

CRAIG

Dude, make it a, uh— here, do this, do this.

KEVIN

There you go. That fly— is it a fly?

CRAIG

It's the fly.

KEVIN

That fly—

CRAIG

We got one fly in the studio.

KEVIN

It is annoying me to no end.

CRAIG

It is marked for death.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, yes, he is. And if only I had a flyswatter a little bit larger than my hat, then he'd been gone already. Be gone for sure.

CRAIG

So we are picking up from a few episodes ago, a series that we're doing on the top 5 cities. And so all this information is coming from WalletHub. They did a lot of deep dive into some data. And so bringing you— and obviously their list is I think this one goes to all— let's— I'm going to scroll all the way down to the bottom. Number 182. So 182 cities. Obviously, that's not all the cities in the US, but we're going to go through the top 5 cities in the United States that are the happiest cities, at least according to the data that they collected. WalletHub.

KEVIN

And now we probably have to be pretty explicit here and say That— not weird explicit, just like specific.

CRAIG

Yeah, don't be dirty.

KEVIN

Yeah, uh, probably need to be specific.

CRAIG

It's a different kind of happy.

KEVIN

Um, that, uh, this is based on happiness, not on necessarily— like, I assume—

CRAIG

Which is a very subjective thing.

KEVIN

Yeah, and, and so I assume we're talking about the people that live there feel happy, and more than what the city itself does to you.

CRAIG

Well, so they based it off of 3 categories. Okay, so the 3 categories being, uh, emotional and physical well-being. Okay, uh, income and employment, and community and environment.

KEVIN

Okay, so, so it really is like—

CRAIG

I don't really know how you Of, of living there. Income and employment. I understand how you measure those things.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Emotional and physical well-being. I don't know how you measure that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, do you have less appointments with therapists and counselors?

KEVIN

And we can't employ counselors because they keep going out of business.

CRAIG

I mean, in the cities where there's emotional and physical well-being, are the counselors poorer? I mean, do you—

KEVIN

which, which acts at, you know, it indirectly affects the, the whole employment and—

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

The amount of money you're making.

CRAIG

That's got to factor in there.

KEVIN

So it adversely affects one of the categories.

CRAIG

Well, and, and then the third category, which I think is a weird category, is community and environment. Like, to me, those are very different things, right? Because I would imagine, just shooting from the hip here, that community in parts of Montana are pretty low, but that the environmental situation is pretty high. Um, I don't know how you, how you put those, why you would put those 2 things together into it. Like, I understand those 2 things as independent categories, right? I don't understand them as a single category.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah.

CRAIG

If that makes sense.

KEVIN

Yeah. Although, unless you can find that perfect scenario that has both of those things together, maybe, I don't know. And then you ask the question, why are there 182 options then on this list?

CRAIG

So, and I would, I would also like to point out that number 182, uh, sorry. Well, let's, let's also mention that poor 182. There's, there's a lot of cities not on the list. Uh-huh. So they fell below this. But number 182 is Detroit, Michigan. So doesn't matter how good your music is, Motown. No, you ain't, you ain't happy.

KEVIN

Well, that's kind of the point.

CRAIG

You're 1 in 182.

KEVIN

Is it?

CRAIG

You would think that the music would make them feel better.

KEVIN

The music would make them feel better, maybe, but the music that's being produced is not necessarily always happy.

CRAIG

Sure. But I mean, it's good music.

KEVIN

It is. Well, I don't disagree with you.

CRAIG

So good music should make everyone happy.

KEVIN

You would think.

CRAIG

It should.

KEVIN

If that were the case, let's just blare music everywhere.

CRAIG

That's radio.

KEVIN

Well, people don't listen to that anymore.

CRAIG

Well, but I mean, like, you know, Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music. I mean, people are— people are— I actually think people are listening to more and more diverse music than they have in the past. For sure.

KEVIN

Yeah. But the access to it's a whole lot different.

CRAIG

But I don't know that that's affecting the happiness of any of these cities.

KEVIN

Well, we'll find out.

CRAIG

Yeah. So do you wanna just go through the list real quick?

KEVIN

Yeah. So we're gonna start with number 5, right?

CRAIG

I mean, just right off the bat, we think this list is bunk. Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, there's something very biased about this list, first of all. So the number 5 is Irvine, California.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

And do you, do you want me to just go through it.

CRAIG

Well, so Irvine, California, I mean, it had a total score of 70.38. It came in number 5 in emotional and physical well-being. It came in number 16 under income and employment, and it came in number 12 on community and environment.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So for those reasons, it's number 5.

KEVIN

Number 5.

CRAIG

Yeah. What, like, Irvine, is that where, is that where Apple is? Headquartered?

KEVIN

I don't know. Nope. No, it's Cupertino.

CRAIG

Cupertino. What's in Irvine? Something's in Irvine. There's like—

KEVIN

I mean, a lot of happy people. That's what's in—

CRAIG

apparently.

KEVIN

What's in Irvine? This tells you how much we know people. Again, we're talking geography a little bit.

CRAIG

Our best subject.

KEVIN

What is Irvine known for? Beautiful parks, friendly people, low crime, and great schools. Actually, that is happy.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's, that's not bad.

KEVIN

That's what they're known for.

CRAIG

That's what it's known for. If that's what you're known for, then hey, I imagine you have a pretty happy community.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, the next question that I find is what's special about Irvine? And it says it's family-oriented town full of sprawling bike paths and rows of pretty houses. I actually want to live there now.

CRAIG

Dude, if you, if you want to chase me out of somewhere, tell me that there are rows of houses.

KEVIN

Rows of houses, but they're pretty.

CRAIG

I don't care. Don't care.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm fine with that.

CRAIG

I want a house.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Where there could be rows of houses, but there are no houses.

KEVIN

There are— there, there's actually a lack of rows.

CRAIG

There's a lack of houses, but there is a house.

KEVIN

Yeah, that would be fantastic.

CRAIG

Just me and the horse. That's, that's what I want.

KEVIN

Okay, well then we're back to Montana again.

CRAIG

I'm in.

KEVIN

Yeah, I, I'm sure it's beautiful. I've never been there. I'd like to go to Montana. Have you been to Montana?

CRAIG

I've never been to— again, like we mentioned last episode, I've never been north of the Mason-Dixon line except to go to Chicago.

KEVIN

That is, that is really amazing.

CRAIG

And about the only— the re— one of the only ways that you could talk me into doing it Montana, Wyoming, one of the Dakotas.

KEVIN

Food.

CRAIG

Maybe food.

KEVIN

Yeah. I feel like, I feel like you could talk me into going to Alaska.

CRAIG

I could.

KEVIN

I would go.

CRAIG

I would go to Alaska, dude.

KEVIN

So my, my mother-in-law actually just got back from Alaska. Uh, she spent, uh, they did 14 days.

CRAIG

I saw that.

KEVIN

Yeah. Cruise, week-long cruise and a week-long, uh, land.

CRAIG

Also Idaho.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

Like, it's— I think, I think Idaho is going to quickly become like sort of like the, the secret of the American West.

KEVIN

Because nobody wants to live there?

CRAIG

No, like it actually has like really, like really, really pretty places.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. Oh no, and there's some gorgeous places.

CRAIG

But most people think of like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado. Yeah, um, things like that. Most people don't think about Idaho.

KEVIN

No, because they got potatoes. Yeah, I mean, also good food.

CRAIG

Well, I think, I think most people hear Idaho and they think potatoes, and so they immediately think like Kansas. Ah, and it's not. He is in your face.

KEVIN

This stupid fly. This is gonna—

CRAIG

that was so great. I really hope the camera was on you.

KEVIN

It was not. If, uh, if you like suddenly hear a weird crash on— just know that I have killed something.

CRAIG

He's actually on the camera right now and I really want to smack him, but I know if I do, I'm gonna mess up the shot. I know.

KEVIN

Is it worth it?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

No, I don't think so either.

CRAIG

Oh, I'll get him. I'll get him here in a minute.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

So anyway, number 4.

KEVIN

Number 4 is San Jose, California.

CRAIG

San Jose.

KEVIN

Wasn't San Jose on one of our other lists?

CRAIG

I think it was.

KEVIN

I think it was too.

CRAIG

But here's where it ranked. San Jose's number 2 in emotional and physical well-being, number 6 in income and employment, and number 55 in community and environment. So not, not a really great community, but I mean, like, not a terrible community. Yeah. Um, but number 2 in emotional and physical well-being.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, again, we're talking about cities on a coast area— coastal, coastal area, coastal area.

CRAIG

And so, like, I would imagine San Jose is a pretty area, pretty a pretty place outside. Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and the, the atmosphere is nice. The climate is nice. The, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think that it's, uh, California has a lot to offer whenever it comes to like enjoyability of where you're living.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

Um, you know, it's, it's got a lot of, you know, a lot of big trees.

CRAIG

Does it?

KEVIN

Well, there's the redwoods there and the sequoias, so there's really big trees. Um, but yeah, it's, it's so, uh, you know, I'll say that, uh, San Jose apparently is notable for its affluent lifestyle, flourishing job market, cultural diversity, and beautiful natural landscape.

CRAIG

Yeah, so San Jose was on another list, but I think it was because it was so close to Fremont.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah.

CRAIG

And so here's what I'll say is I've spent— I mean, just south of there, I've spent a fair amount of time in Los Angeles.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And one of the things, and if you look at sort of like the landscape, I mean, it's part of mountain ranges that go up and down the coast.

KEVIN

There's a lot of hiking there.

CRAIG

Yes. But one of the things that it creates there that's really interesting is every time I've been to Los Angeles, it's been in the summer. And it's like, at— when it's the hottest, it's like 85, 86 degrees. And I'm sure it gets a little hotter there sometimes. But every day I was there, man, it was like 85 degrees in the middle of the day.

KEVIN

And then at night, oh, yeah.

CRAIG

It was like 55.

KEVIN

Right. It's beautiful.

CRAIG

And I was like, alright, I get it.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Like, this is nice. This is really, really nice.

KEVIN

Really nice.

CRAIG

You don't really have to have air conditioning.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Because, I mean, it gets to 85 at the heat of the day, but and it's just going to cool down to 55 at night.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So you don't really need that.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

You can, like, if you're insulated well, you can cool your house down at night and it's going to sort of maintain that 72-ish throughout the day with an oscillating fan.

KEVIN

Yeah. So it's pretty amazing.

CRAIG

But yeah, so I mean, like, and so San Jose is, it looks like it's probably like 3 or 4 hours north of Los Angeles. So I imagine it's got very similar climate. Yeah. And, uh, you know, in, in weather.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, and one of the other things that you'll— if you talk to Californians, um, when they, when they come to Texas, one of the things that freaks them out about living here is thunderstorms.

KEVIN

Ah, yeah.

CRAIG

Like, they've never had to experience those there.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Which is weird.

KEVIN

Yet they do have to worry about earthquakes.

CRAIG

Earthquakes is a thing for sure.

KEVIN

But yeah, you know, It just— that's something that most of them just deal with, you know?

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, it's sort of like hurricanes here.

KEVIN

Yeah, you just deal with it.

CRAIG

You just kind of figure it out.

KEVIN

Yep, exactly.

CRAIG

All right, moving on.

KEVIN

The next one, and, and I will— I can see this being the case.

CRAIG

And I, I actually don't think this is fair, but carry on.

KEVIN

Okay, so the next one is San Francisco, California, which is the same place as San Jose.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Yeah, they're, they're like next door to each other.

CRAIG

Yes, it is the same place.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is.

CRAIG

Now I imagine people from San Jose are like, to hell with you.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. They probably don't want anything to do with San Francisco, most likely.

CRAIG

Suck it up, buttercup.

KEVIN

You live next door. There's nothing you can do about it. Yeah. But have you been to San Francisco?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Okay. Never been. We've been once and we had a great time. I mean, the theater area, Is is nice. The I don't know, like there are museums all over the place. The everything about our trip was great. The you know the the wharf area was amazing. I mean they do have a lot of good food. Ghirardelli's there, so there's that. I don't know. We, we enjoy— in fact, we were talking just the other day about like places to go on vacation, and we said we'd go back to San Francisco. It was nice. Yeah.

CRAIG

So dude, have you, have you seen this comment in the—

KEVIN

Oh yeah, I saw it and then I deleted it.

CRAIG

You deleted it?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

What the heck is that?

KEVIN

I don't know, some spam. It's spam. We got spam comment.

CRAIG

What the—

KEVIN

I don't, I don't know.

CRAIG

Love spell?

KEVIN

I— yeah, I don't know. I deleted it.

CRAIG

Oh, why? Why? I like to think that we have magical powers, Devin.

KEVIN

Well, we don't.

CRAIG

We could.

KEVIN

But this person needs their, their relationship mended with their fiancée.

CRAIG

It says that we saved their marriage.

KEVIN

I doubt it. There's no way. There's no way that's true unless they live in one of the next 2 cities. One of the 2 happiest places on the planet.

CRAIG

That's the only thing that could have done it.

KEVIN

I don't know.

CRAIG

That's pretty funny.

KEVIN

I know. It was a— yes. Yes. Thank you, Jewel.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

For giving us that.

CRAIG

May you have many more happy years.

KEVIN

You're welcome.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

All right. So the next one. This can't be right because it's not in California.

CRAIG

That's right. I don't know if you notice the trend, people, but the last three cities were all in California.

KEVIN

That's right. And this one is Columbia, Maryland.

CRAIG

Uh huh.

KEVIN

I I don't know anything about it.

CRAIG

Well, let's.

KEVIN

I mean, I've never been to Maryland.

CRAIG

Let's see what you can learn by Googling.

KEVIN

I would like to go to Maryland. Um, I don't think I've been there. I maybe I have because I've been through like that area and like it seems like every state is next. like the next city for us. It's just like we're in a new state. We're in a new state. We're in a new state is how I feel about it.

CRAIG

Okay, so Columbia sits— it looks like it's like an hour southwest of Baltimore.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

Okay. And then so is this okay? And then so, okay, like it sits almost exactly in the middle between Baltimore and DC.

KEVIN

Oh, well then I guarantee that I've been through there.

CRAIG

And then I've— it's like northwest of Annapolis.

KEVIN

Oh, I want to go there.

CRAIG

So it's, it's not very far from like the Baltimore International Airport. Um, looks like it's really close to like a lot of parks. Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, So what, what I find on the internet is that, um, they've got a thriving tech industry, plenty of fun things to do, warm summers, access to Baltimore and DC, good public transportation.

CRAIG

Um, you got 3 quarters of a clover in the middle of downtown.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Like one of those driving—

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. You, you zoomed in.

CRAIG

They didn't, they didn't finish the Okay. Anyway.

KEVIN

Well, they only had 3 areas.

CRAIG

Oh wait, they got another one. It's down here near the border. Sorry.

KEVIN

Another clover?

CRAIG

They got a full clover and a 3/4 clover. 2 3/4 clovers.

KEVIN

Well, their public transportation can figure it out because they've got great public transportation apparently.

CRAIG

And 1 Chick-fil-A just outside of city limits.

KEVIN

Outside of the city limits? So they So they're number 2 on the list and don't even have a Chick-fil-A in their town.

CRAIG

No Chick-fil-A's in Colombia.

KEVIN

That is shocking, y'all. Yeah.

CRAIG

I would imagine the manners in that city are lacking.

KEVIN

They probably are because there's no one teaching them to say my pleasure.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

There's no one in that whole city teaching them about manners. You're right.

CRAIG

Oh, wait, wait, wait. I stand corrected. There is a Starbucks. Oh, I mean a Starbucks, a Chick-fil-A.

KEVIN

Say what?

CRAIG

Sorry. There was a Starbucks on my map. There is a Chick-fil-A at the mall.

KEVIN

Oh, well, of course, because it's the mall.

CRAIG

And a Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

At the mall?

CRAIG

Near the mall.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

But a Texas Roadhouse nonetheless in Maryland.

KEVIN

It is interesting how many places have Texas Roadhouse.

CRAIG

Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

Yeah. And people think that that's like—

CRAIG

That's the embodiment of Texas.

KEVIN

And it's not. I mean, they do have great rolls.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

The rolls are amazing.

CRAIG

I, I'm actually curious if if it's okay to throw the peanuts on the floor at every Texas Roadhouse everywhere.

KEVIN

I— what's interesting is like you see that less and less now in general.

CRAIG

Really?

KEVIN

Yes, they do not just have peanuts at the front door and everything where you just—

CRAIG

Is that because of allergies?

KEVIN

I assume so. I assume so. I mean, you can still get peanuts, but you have to like dispose of them discreetly, I guess.

CRAIG

Look, look, if you have a peanut allergy, Yeah, don't go to a Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

Well, I don't know why you would.

CRAIG

It's not— look, I'm not dumping on Texas Roadhouse or people with peanut allergies either way. Yeah, but there are better places to get steaks.

KEVIN

Uh, 100% better.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't want— I don't want any—

KEVIN

We have plenty of time.

CRAIG

Do you? How much? Dude, that's a whole other episode. I need an hour.

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

But, and again, the steaks at Texas Roadhouse aren't bad.

KEVIN

No, they're fine.

CRAIG

They're good steaks.

KEVIN

Yeah. But like, I eat them.

CRAIG

If you're gonna tell me like you are preventing me and my allergy, my peanut allergy friend from having dinner, no.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I'm not.

KEVIN

No, because honestly, next door is probably Saltgrass. And it's fine.

CRAIG

It's fine.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

It's on the same level.

KEVIN

They're comparable. So If you want a fine steak, a decent steak, then go to Saltgrass, Texas Roadhouse, Outback.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

And we've named that category. There are other categories as well.

CRAIG

That's right. Um, there are subcategories.

KEVIN

You know what, like, since we're on the subject, for just a moment, we're not going to take too much of a tangent here. Okay. But you know who has a surprisingly okay steak?

CRAIG

Who?

KEVIN

Chili's.

CRAIG

Shut your mouth.

KEVIN

No, I, I'm telling you.

CRAIG

No, you're not. You're not allowed to talk anymore.

KEVIN

It is. It is.

CRAIG

You're done for the rest of the episode.

KEVIN

I would equally eat that to a Texas Roadhouse steak. I'm, I'm not joking.

CRAIG

I wouldn't do that.

KEVIN

I'm not joking you. Have you not tried it?

CRAIG

I don't need to.

KEVIN

You—

CRAIG

I've tried other things at Chili's.

KEVIN

It is, uh, it is one of the more shocking things. About Chili's. No, you're just not worth it.

CRAIG

I guess you're just gonna have to take my word for it because I'm not gonna.

KEVIN

You should. It's surprising, I promise you.

CRAIG

It's like telling me that Gremlins deserved an Oscar.

KEVIN

Well, that's not true. See, something I didn't say—

CRAIG

what I said, some things I don't need to go through the process in order to know that they're not accurate.

KEVIN

See, I said it's surprisingly decent. That was the words I used.

CRAIG

I am surprised by your statement.

KEVIN

Okay, well, I guess you'll forever live without not knowing— without not knowing— without knowing—

CRAIG

without knowing that.

KEVIN

I mean, you know now because I told you.

CRAIG

I'm okay with this.

KEVIN

Experiencing—

CRAIG

I don't need to know that. There's nothing— there's nothing about that that I need to know. Okay.

KEVIN

Well, do you do— no, no, you now know.

CRAIG

I mean, like, I, I've had a firm commitment to not darken the door of a Chili's for at least the last decade.

KEVIN

Wow, that's impressive.

CRAIG

It's just not worth my time.

KEVIN

I mean, they're—

CRAIG

I only have so many meals left, Kevin.

KEVIN

They're chili cakes.

CRAIG

The chili cakes. That ain't one of them.

KEVIN

That ain't one of them? No. Okay. All right. Oh, moving on.

CRAIG

Or Colombia.

KEVIN

I don't— yeah, I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure people from Colombia are very happy.

CRAIG

Maybe they're happier because I'm not there.

KEVIN

I don't know. Well, that's for sure. Um, okay, so the last one.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

Guess what, people?

CRAIG

Let's go back to California.

KEVIN

Go back to California, and we are in Fremont.

CRAIG

All I got to say is screw you, WalletHub.

KEVIN

WalletHub does— why did we start this?

CRAIG

Because it's something worth talking about. I mean, people go to WalletHub for information. Sure. They collect a lot of data, but I'm beginning to think they're a little biased.

KEVIN

Yeah. There's no other explanation that I can give other than the fact that California is— 4 of the top 5. is the most happiest place on the earth. Or, well, sorry, there are other places on the earth other than the United States. Sure. Did not mean to say that. Yeah. Did not mean to say that, nor do I actually think that.

CRAIG

You said the quiet part out loud. Sorry.

KEVIN

We just edit that out, right? That's what we do here is we edit things. No, we don't. It'll be in there. So Fremont, I, I, so I literally Googled what's great about Fremont, California.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

And the first thing that comes on up is Fremont is a very family-friendly city.

CRAIG

It's, it's a suburb of San Francisco, right?

KEVIN

Guess what?

CRAIG

Just like every—

KEVIN

San Jose.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

3 of the 5 places that are on this place are centrally located in San Francisco.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, I don't know. Whoever wrote this is probably from Fremont and really likes San Francisco.

CRAIG

So here, here's, here's an interesting thing that they say in their little article that, like, you know, is, is priming you for the list on WalletHub that they're about to do. Okay. Um, it's, uh, let's see, where do I start? Let me, let me start at the beginning. Location plays a hand in how bright or gloomy our days are. For years, researchers have studied the science of happiness and found that its key ingredients include a positive mental state, healthy body, strong social connections, job satisfaction, and financial well-being. However, money can only make you so happy.

KEVIN

Ah.

CRAIG

People who make $75,000 a year won't get any higher satisfaction from more money. Consider also the fact that while the US is one of the richest countries, it ranks only 14th in the World Happiness Report. So there are aspects of that that I actually agree with.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But I'm sorry. If you tell me that I won't be happier making $150,000 versus $75,000, I'm gonna be exponentially happier statistically.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Statistically, not not overall, but like in general, I'm probably going to be able to experience some more level of satisfactory happiness.

KEVIN

Right. I mean, there's a really good country song about this.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

That you say money won't buy me happiness, but it'll buy me a boat. Right. And it'll buy me a truck to pull it and it'll buy me a Yeti that I can ice down with cold beer.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

That's how that song goes. It's like, Okay. I think money can buy me some happiness.

CRAIG

You know, for, for some people it can. Yeah. I think there's, I think there's a certain, I, I, I think, I think a lot of it has to do with the temperament of the person. Sure. But, like, I mean, just that, that is such a, I, I don't know that there's any data to back that up.

KEVIN

It, it is interesting whenever you start saying things like money won't buy you happiness. But then you don't put any type of religion into the conversation.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Because, because, okay. Well, then what does?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

You know what I mean?

CRAIG

Yeah. You don't wanna— you wouldn't wanna follow that up with anything. Well, money won't buy you. Okay. What, what does?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

What is it that— okay. So, like, people that make less than 75 and are still happy, what do we know about them to be true? Or people that make more than that.

KEVIN

Which is a lot more money.

CRAIG

Sure. Or people that make more than that and you're yet still happy.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

I mean, and so, like, what are the, what are the commonalities between those people? You know, and, but, like, so, like, this is, you know, again, generalities don't really tend to make people satisfied with the answer.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

The other thing that I think is interesting is one, that so, like, 4 of the top 5 cities are from California.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yet, right, between April of 2020 and January of 2022, more than 352,000 people have evacuated the state of California.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness.

CRAIG

You know, and that's January of 2022.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

We're now in September of 2022. And, you know, we're going to be getting updated numbers as to how many more people have left. And I don't know about you, but I continue to see Oh, yeah. New residents here from California.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

And so I can, like, I can imagine that people don't, you know, people don't leave a place because they're so happy.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Now, to be fair, San Francisco is a big area.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is.

CRAIG

Los Angeles is a big area. San Diego is a big area.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

There's, there's several big cities in Los Angeles and, you know, 300,000.

KEVIN

In California.

CRAIG

I'm sorry, California. 352,000 is not a massive amount of people.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

To California in general. I mean, to the state of Rhode Island.

KEVIN

Well, that's probably more than they have.

CRAIG

It's a lot of people.

KEVIN

A lot of people. I don't know. Providence is bigger than that.

CRAIG

But to have that many people leave, that's a lot of people. And when I searched how many people have left California in 2022, numerous articles. Like, this, this is a phenomenon that people are recognizing. And so, like, I'm, I'm sorry, like, you, you can, you can throw the data at me all you want, right? These are not happy places.

KEVIN

It does not mean that I agree with the data. And like, when you look at the top 20 here, 11 of them are in California.

CRAIG

Yeah, give me a break, right? I mean, if they're so happy, why aren't they staying, right?

KEVIN

It's a great question. And why are they coming to Texas?

CRAIG

Well, not just Texas.

KEVIN

Um, a lot of them are going to Florida.

CRAIG

It's Texas, Virginia, Washington, Florida.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, which Washington's a weird one, but it's, it's close.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it's because they don't want to be in Oregon.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Because Portland's there and that place is nuts.

KEVIN

Yeah. Just ask our friend Eric G. Just ask him.

CRAIG

So, which he needs, he needs to just come on down to Texas.

KEVIN

Yeah, absolutely. It would actually make—

CRAIG

Eric G, come to Texas. We got a studio ready for you.

KEVIN

We do. And it would make your life so much easier because you wouldn't have to worry about all these weird regulations. Yeah, in fact, we don't have any here.

CRAIG

The taxes are better.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Your beard would be more accepted.

KEVIN

That's true.

CRAIG

And, and respected.

KEVIN

And yes, that's true. And you can have non-natural gas appliances in your house.

CRAIG

For that alone.

KEVIN

Yeah, for that alone.

CRAIG

It's just Civil War round 2. Yeah, let's just go.

KEVIN

Yeah. No, or no, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they have to get rid of natural gas. That's what I mean to say. They got to get rid of natural gas. You're all electric. Yeah, that's what I meant to say.

CRAIG

so that they can turn it off whenever they want.

KEVIN

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Uh, crazy stuff. Which, that's the thing.

CRAIG

I mean, like, have you, have you heard all the stuff that's been going on in California lately?

KEVIN

Well, about— yeah, about the fact that they were like, first of all, let's, let's recap and go to the place where they said that basically they're going to outlaw the sale of anything other than electric vehicles.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

By the year, what is it, 2030?

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Something like that.

CRAIG

Something.

KEVIN

And then, and then because of all of the power outages and things that are happening in California over the last few weeks, they've told people stop charging your electric cars because you're pulling on the power grid.

CRAIG

Yep. That's the thing.

KEVIN

The irony behind this is not lost on probably anybody. Yeah.

CRAIG

And it's like, really, like, You guys didn't, like, have a meeting about this?

KEVIN

And this is, this is what you came up with?

CRAIG

I think, I think the messaging on this may not be all that great. Yeah. Ah, let's do it anyway.

KEVIN

Do it anyway. Yeah. What, what are they gonna do? No one will notice. Yeah. What are they gonna do? Leave? Yeah, they will. Yeah. In droves, actually. Yeah. They'll leave. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my goodness. Crazy stuff.

CRAIG

Anything else about this one, man?

KEVIN

Man, I think this about wraps it up. All right, all right. Well, thank you guys for downloading today's episode and listening on the interwebs. We appreciate you very, very much. If you haven't already, go ahead and click that like button and subscribe button. Go over to iTunes— it's Apple Podcasts, I say it every time— Apple Podcasts, and leave us a rating and review. That'd be very, very helpful. And as always, we're here each and every Tuesday, and until next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya.

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