Show notes

Kevin Hackett and Craig Williams recorded this one earlier in the day than usual because Craig has a trip coming up. They open with the new website and the newsletter signup at the bottom of the homepage, which emails you the links every time a new episode and the shorts go out, then spend a while on the college football weekend. Kentucky beating A&M 31 to 21 at Kyle Field, whether Marcel has already peaked, the offensive coordinator change after Collin Klein left for Kansas, and a running game that was working until they stopped using it. They also cover Ole Miss over LSU, Trinidad…

The home product section is built around three things Craig has been using. First, a small rechargeable air gun with a brush attachment, an inflator attachment, three speeds and a USB-C charge, about $35 on Amazon, bought mainly to blow dust off studio gear. Second, the Euhomy ice maker installed at the guest house. It is about the size of a dishwasher, makes 100 pounds of ice a day and holds roughly 30 pounds in the bin, and Craig paid $252 on sale. He hooked it to the old washing machine cold water supply. The two warnings are worth hearing before you buy one. It has no drain pump, so it…

Third is the AquaTru reverse osmosis countertop filter, which the company sent them to try without paying for coverage. It removes microplastics, arsenic, lead and nitrates, the filters last about 24 months, and the water tastes good. The trade offs are the weekly hand washing of both tanks, the counter space it eats, and the capacity. It holds three quarters of a gallon and only about two thirds of what you pour into the fill tank reaches the drinking tank. Kevin looked up the under sink version at $395, which stores 1.7 gallons and makes 54 gallons a day, and they talk about who each…

The last stretch is well water. A woman Craig rides with lost power in Tomball with a barn full of horses and no generator, which leads to a straightforward point: if you are on a well and you do not have a generator, you do not have water for your house, your toilets or your animals. They finish with the water rumors circulating in Texas, data centers, and where robotics and subscriptions may be headed.

Transcript

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KEVIN

This is episode number 362 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We are so glad that you could join us for an early morning edition of our live Homeowner Show here in the studio. you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

Oh, pretty good. I've already started without the, uh, you know, the welcome, like, slide. Oh, they were just looking at me the whole time.

CRAIG

I was just looking at you.

KEVIN

Yeah, you know, people, it is what it is. Yeah, but, uh, man, this first time I think we've ever recorded this early.

CRAIG

I think so.

KEVIN

I think so.

CRAIG

Yeah, it just— but it had to be done. It was— I have a big trip coming up. I'm going to be gone for, like, a little more than a week.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so we just had to get some stuff knocked out, and we need to make sure and Talk to everybody before it's too late.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

So you want to you want to hit some football real quick?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

You got your tech gear on there.

KEVIN

Well, of course. Real quick.

CRAIG

I'm drinking. Look.

KEVIN

Okay. Bull Sarge right here. Okay.

CRAIG

I'm hanging in there.

KEVIN

Hanging in there.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, you're gonna have to. So real quick before I do that, we're live on our website right now.

CRAIG

Oh nice.

KEVIN

HomeownerShow.com. Go check us out. You can go to reviews. And leave us a review right there. Be real simple.

CRAIG

So, yeah. And one of the, a lot of people have been signing up for the newsletter.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, a bunch.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So like, if you don't ever wanna miss an episode, I know like people have notifications that show up, you know, on YouTube and Facebook and all that kind of stuff. But if you just like, you don't want to have to mess with socials or anything like that, you can sign up for the newsletter. Every time a new episode comes out, they're gonna send you the links. It'll, it'll, I think it'll even give you links to like shorts.

KEVIN

It will.

CRAIG

That, that come out. So, that's right. Super cool feature.

KEVIN

Yeah, no, it's, it's new. It's at the bottom of the, uh, the homepage. Sign up right there. Super simple.

CRAIG

Certainly I'm signed up. Like, I got an email the other day and I was like, hey, look, we came out with an episode.

KEVIN

I signed you up.

CRAIG

I'd completely forgotten.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah, I signed you up. Yeah. Uh, no, let's talk about football. Uh, it was an interesting week. Um, couple of big dogs lost.

CRAIG

Yep. Um, my old alma mater being the big one.

KEVIN

Well, one of the big ones. Yeah. But probably the one that should— like, that was the most surprising loss, which was Kentucky beating—

CRAIG

Yeah, that was probably the most surprising one.

KEVIN

Now, I will say, like, just the week before, Alabama played Kentucky.

CRAIG

And they played them pretty tough.

KEVIN

And played well. And Saban was saying on, on game day that every time they went to Kentucky, it was tough.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

And they went to Kentucky and they kind of had a tough time.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

The difference is Kentucky went to Kyle Field and they walloped. Yeah, they— I mean, 31 to 21, it was a, it was a walloping.

CRAIG

Oh yeah. Well, and they had to catch up to get to— yeah, to get to 21.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, and I didn't get to see this game this, this week. So what was your—

CRAIG

It was brutal, man. Like, it, uh, I, I think there's a couple issues going on. Um, I think I think everyone needs to be honest and just say that Marcel is overrated.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, like he peaked.

KEVIN

I mean, I, I, it's funny cuz I, I've said this a few times that I'm like, I think he's overrated. And you're like, well, we'll see.

CRAIG

Yeah. And I think we're seeing, but of course, because I think, I think everyone likes to believe that there's potential to get better.

KEVIN

Oh, and there, well, there should be potential to get better, but I think, I think he's at the top of his, I think you're right.

CRAIG

I think, I think last year he was at the, the top of his game.

KEVIN

Well, because here's why. I think people have figured him out.

CRAIG

Yeah. Well, here, here. Okay.

KEVIN

If you shut down his run game, mm-hmm, you're, you're gonna, 'cause he doesn't have the best arm.

CRAIG

No. I mean, he's, well, he's got a good arm. He's just not accurate.

KEVIN

That right?

CRAIG

Yeah. Um, and he's Dak Prescott. Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

No, I think, I think he's probably better than 75% of quarterbacks in college football. Okay, but that's—

KEVIN

that 25% is the top 25.

CRAIG

I think he's at the bottom of the 25%.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But like, I don't— but I don't think he's gonna get any better, and that's the problem.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, I also don't think that they're— you know, they, they went, uh, because Colin Klein was the, the OC last year. You know, he left and went to Kansas, and they seem to be doing okay.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Okay. This year. Yeah. I don't think this guy knows how to play in the SEC. Yeah.

KEVIN

So I will tell you that you, you, what you were saying, talking about, you know, you think maybe he's peaked. It's the, you know, the quarterback thing, yada yada. I, you're only ever gonna be as good as your quarterback coach is able to get you.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

And, and the OC is obviously calling those plays. But if you talk to people that are coaches, and we've got some friends that— mutual friends that have been lifelong coaches or whatever, they'll tell you like, that guy's not going to be great because the quarterback coach is not great. It's a very interesting scenario with all of that.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And I don't know what the quarterback coach is like at A&M, but where Reed is where he's at.

CRAIG

Well, and it also, it's the same issue year after year, man. It's like they spend gobs of money to get really, really good. They have a stable of incredible athletes.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

But they were getting gashed with the run. And here's the other, and this is the other thing that was making me frustrated is we were gashing them with the run. And then we just quit.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And you heard me complain last time about our running backs.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Like, I don't, I don't think highly of our running backs, but like they were gashing Kentucky and I'm like, well then just beat the ever-living bejesus out of 'em.

KEVIN

Keep doing it. Yeah.

CRAIG

Do it till they make you stop.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Then throw it.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

We have less chance for him to throw an interception the more we run the ball.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And the run's working. So do the thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So I, you know, I don't, but like, I'm not a, I'm not a professional football strategist or anything like that.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But like I can, I can look at it and be like, that was working.

KEVIN

Right, so keep doing that. Do that until it's not. So the other big game was the LSU-Ole Miss game, which was awesome. Which was so good. So, and mainly just because the whole Lane Kiffin thing. I mean, the way he left Ole Miss was—

CRAIG

He's a tool.

KEVIN

He is. And, you know, the most important person in the room is Lane Kiffin.

CRAIG

And I would've said that even if he stayed at Ole Miss.

KEVIN

Right, no, I agree. He's been told since he was in Tennessee. But, um, that being said, uh, they— I mean, Ole Miss just beat them.

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

And they wanted it more. They just wanted it more.

CRAIG

And, uh, well, I think I heard somebody talking about there's something to be said about a— what is it, like 6th-year Trinidad Chambliss?

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Like, yeah, he's, he's an NFL player.

KEVIN

Yeah. You're right. You're right. And, and it's one of the reasons that they're like, look, you do have a certain number of years.

CRAIG

Have you seen the, um, the Cheez-It cracker commercial?

KEVIN

Uh, I don't think so.

CRAIG

Where they're talking about expanding eligibility?

KEVIN

Uh-uh. No. Oh, that sounds great.

CRAIG

And there's, they, they're all like discussing it in like a, in a, it's like a sunken couch and they're all kind of sitting around discussing expanding eligibility.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And they said, well, let's, let's give the guy another year. And it's like this man in his mid-80s with like the flapper football helmet.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness.

CRAIG

And he is like, I wanna get out there and crack some skulls. And they're like, let him in.

KEVIN

So good. That's funny. That's funny. Well, um, so yeah, that was, that was a big game. Uh, you know, I, I'll just say, just because I am a Tech fan, they, they, uh, who'd they play? They played Houston. Oh, that one. And, and, and honestly, like, Houston looked pretty good. Yeah. And, and Tech looked okay. I, I was not— there was still tons of stuff that I'm like, what is happening?

CRAIG

Yeah, that's the one where I was texting you where, um, who's the quarterback for U of H? Yeah, Weigman.

KEVIN

Weigman, yeah.

CRAIG

Oh, because he was, he was A&M backup guy or whatever.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Super, super talented kid.

KEVIN

And he's— yeah, he's good.

CRAIG

Because I was always texting, I was like, this kid's out for blood.

KEVIN

Yeah. No, no, no, no, he, he played really great. Houston's got a good team. I mean, They're, they're a top 25 team and they deserve to be. Um, so, you know, it came down to a 2-point conversion that they, you know, Houston didn't convert.

CRAIG

And, uh, dude, that was, that was a crazy call.

KEVIN

Why? It was just so close. It wasn't like, if you go, like, as soon as I saw it, I was like, that's not close because his knee hit and then he, and then he lunged. And that's where, that's where he tried to extend the ball. Mm-hmm. He was, the ball was closer to the 1-yard line than the goal line. Like if you go back and look at it, I watched it a bunch.

CRAIG

Like it was, it was difficult to tell because there were so many bodies in front of his knee.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

If you, and like if you look at it from that angle, it looks like he gets the ball over the line or it touches the line.

KEVIN

Yeah. No, it's not even close. What do you mean it's not even close? It's not even close.

CRAIG

It's obviously close.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Well, like to say that it wasn't close is so stupid because they had to do the replay for like 5 minutes. Well, yeah, because Like, yes, you can say it now.

KEVIN

No, in the moment, I'm telling you, I immediately saw it and I was like, all right, good, he's not in.

CRAIG

There's no way that you knew that in the moment.

KEVIN

I did.

CRAIG

You're such an arrogant jerk.

KEVIN

Nope, it's true. Either way, uh, dude, they ran the replay on that for like— Oh, I know.

CRAIG

5 minutes.

KEVIN

I'm aware.

CRAIG

Thank you, babe. You got tacos. You can't have a taco now until you concede the point.

KEVIN

No, I like— seriously, I You can see—

CRAIG

I know that you can see in the replay.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

That's what I'm saying. Like, it was the reason they had to watch the replay is because it was so close.

KEVIN

Well, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm totally fine with them doing the replay. Uh-huh. But as soon as I saw the— like, I don't know what took him so long, because as soon as I saw the slow-mo of it, I was like, he's, he's way short. Like, way short. Way short. Yes.

CRAIG

You make it sound like he's like the 2, the ball was at the goal line.

KEVIN

We eventually, it was at the goal line. We can argue about this later, but, um, either way it was, it came down to a 2-point conversion. And I'm, I'm, I'm not saying they made the wrong call. Well, they didn't. I know that. But either way, my point is it was a close game.

CRAIG

What? That's true.

KEVIN

It was a close game. Well, the majority of the game it was close.

CRAIG

I, I actually don't think I don't think Houston— I don't— I mean, the way Tech was playing, I don't think Houston should have had that much of an opportunity to come back into it.

KEVIN

No. Well, because at the end of the game, Tech had gone up 8, which was a crazy thing. They— so they go down the field to score, go up 6, and they get 2 offsides penalties in the, uh, in the extra point and are just kind of run it in, get 2 points. So they're up 8, and Tech just lets them be like this stupid prevent defense of like, oh, here's 15 yards, here's 12 yards, here's 11 yards. And it's just like, what? And they drove down the field like it was nothing. So they shouldn't have ever really been in that position. I agree with you. But, um, but yeah, it, it was— there's still some holes in Tech. Tech, for, for all the hype, Tech has a lot of things to fix.

CRAIG

Well, so you, I, I'm glad you brought that up because it was something I wanted to, for all of my A&M fans, the, the reason I think it's going to be a brutal year.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Is here's, here's 2 stats for you. And I think you can fact check me on this.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, I think they have had control, like time of possession. I think they've owned in every single game. Except for Arizona State. I think Arizona State had longer time of possession in that game. I think they controlled time of possession in the Kentucky game. And I think on the year they have 10 yards of penalties.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and so like the, like, yeah, typically if you can, if you can keep your penalties low and control the ball, you should win. You should win the game. Yeah.

KEVIN

And they didn't.

CRAIG

Well, so, and then the Arizona State game. I don't think they had any penalties, maybe 5, if that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And they didn't have time of possession and they won. Um, but that one that didn't look like they should have won either.

KEVIN

Right. So like, yeah, they're, so they're averaging almost 35 minutes a game, which is more than half.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

I mean, that's an average.

CRAIG

Did you look up the penalties?

KEVIN

I didn't look up penalties.

CRAIG

Um, I think they're like— I want to say they've had like 10 yards, and like, I think there's been like 2 5-yard penalties that they've had all season long so far.

KEVIN

Yeah, I'm looking right now, see if it comes quickly. Um, it shows that during the season of 2026, 3 games, 11 penalties for 90 yards.

CRAIG

For 90 yards? Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

KEVIN

That— but still, for total out of 3 games, it must be—

CRAIG

it must be rolling in all the games at the end of 2026 from last year.

KEVIN

It may have. Yeah, I mean, it, it, it's showing that, um, yeah, I, I don't know. I'd have to dig into that a little bit. But, uh, it says during the 2026 college football season, 11 penalties for 90 yards. Either way, that at 90 yards over 3 games, that's, that's not much.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

And you're averaging over half of the time. Yeah, they should be doing better. But I mean, like, look, they, they could come back. I mean, they— here's the thing. I think they're— I think they got punched in the mouth this last week. They're not going to be happy about that. And look who they have this week.

CRAIG

Uh, Louisiana. They got to go. But like, this is, this is, this is the other thing I looked at this season. I was like, okay, we got to go to LSU 2 years in a row, right? That's stupid.

KEVIN

Yeah, I don't, I don't understand how that works. You should never have to go to this.

CRAIG

Are they gonna have to come to us for 2 years in a row?

KEVIN

Well, that I don't know. That's— I mean, unless you're— unless you've chosen to do like these off— like neutral site games where y'all played Arkansas for 7 years.

CRAIG

It's, you know, the Cotton Bowl, which the first time it's not, it's gonna be at our house, right?

KEVIN

Which like, yeah, not that it matters. Arkansas is terrible. They are so bad. Uh, so anyway, yeah, it— I don't understand the going to the same place 2 years in a row. That, that doesn't make sense to me.

CRAIG

Um, so anyway, we, we have 3, uh, short little doodads that we've had, uh, acquired here at the Williams property, um, that I thought were worth mentioning. Um, what is this?

KEVIN

What you got?

CRAIG

Okay, that makes more sense. I, I, I just looked it up and it said that there was like 8 penalties for 75 yards just in that first Missouri State game. That was the B squad. Oh, so they've had 15, 15 yards essentially called against them.

KEVIN

Gotcha. I don't know, that, that's just— again, it's not much.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

You're playing solid football at that point.

CRAIG

Right. Okay, so like 75 of those penalty yards came in the Missouri State game where they won 50 to nothing. I don't count those.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So Arizona State, 5 yards. Kentucky, 10 yards. So 15 yards. I was off by 5.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Anyway, so okay, here's what we got. Let's do this one first 'cause this is, it's actually here in the studio. This is the AnoWeave. I don't even know how to say it. Oh, um, AnoWeave. Um, it's an air gun.

KEVIN

An air gun. Show it, like, hold it up just a little bit. There you go.

CRAIG

Yeah, so, and so it's got like a little LED light, and you can actually swap out the, the tip on this thing. It has a nozzle, the nozzle. So it's got like a brush attachment, it's got an inflator attachment, um, and it has 3 speeds. And then it's USB-C rechargeable.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

So it's got a little heft to it because of the battery.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And most of the motor is right up here on top, but it's not super heavy. So like, I know you were looking at it going like, I could fill up like an air mattress when I'm camping.

KEVIN

Yeah, probably.

CRAIG

You could.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I'd have to check and see how long the battery life is on it, but it is powerful.

KEVIN

Yeah. So it's got 3 speeds on it, right? Right.

CRAIG

So you You know, hold it till the light comes on, and then you can pull the trigger.

KEVIN

Right?

CRAIG

On off. Sorry, but like then you click the other button to.

KEVIN

Oh my! Oh, I feel that.

CRAIG

So, and I forget how to turn the light on, but it has a little LED light. There's a buttons. There's only two buttons. So like I'm sure there's like who knows. There's a way to turn the light on. I don't remember.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, I held the. Well, I, when I did it, I accidentally did, I held the trigger. Mm-hmm. Until the light came on.

CRAIG

Let's see if it does it, but it's not working now.

KEVIN

Or maybe double-click it. There it is. There it was. Yeah.

CRAIG

Double-click the, the on/off button once you have the thing powered up.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So pretty cool.

KEVIN

Yeah, that, that's a, that's a neat little deal, but you bought it specifically to clean things with, right?

CRAIG

Yeah, I, so I bought it like, like with the, uh, like the RODECaster that we have here in the studio, like it gets dusty. And so like you can put like that brush attachment and just clean the dust off. Yeah, I have a bunch of old electronics that just need a good, good cleaning. I initially bought it to clean out the, uh, USB-C, uh, port on my iPhone, but then I read later on that you're not supposed to do that. But you can pick this thing up for, I think it was $35 on Amazon.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, not too shabby.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so cool little addition to some camping gear or, you know, doing electronics work.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, It has, it has like 5 different attachments, little bag that it comes in. So cool little deal. Um, the, the other thing is, uh, the YouHomie, uh, ice maker.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, you, we were talking about this, uh, a couple of weeks ago, I think.

CRAIG

Yeah. Yeah.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

So I actually went, I went over to the, uh, the, the guest houses, which is where we installed it. Um, and somebody had left the lid up and so all the ice was melted.

KEVIN

Oh no.

CRAIG

I was like, oh, come on guys. Um, but this is, it's about the size of a dishwasher. And so you could, you could fit it underneath as like an under-counter ice maker, but it makes 100 pounds of ice a day.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

Um, uh, really? And so you would—

KEVIN

100 pounds?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's a lot.

CRAIG

It's a lot of ice.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, it sounds like a lot of ice.

KEVIN

Well, but I mean, yeah, but how many people are using 100? I understand, 100 pounds of ice is not as much as you think because if you go to, like, if you go to the convenience store and get a 10-pound bag of ice, I mean, it's a decent-sized bag of ice.

CRAIG

It's a decent, yeah.

KEVIN

You get 10 of those. Now you can't get them all at once. All at once. That's the thing. That's the problem.

CRAIG

So it has the ability to make 100 pounds of ice a day.

KEVIN

There you go.

CRAIG

I think in the, uh, in the holding tank or whatever you want to call it, I think that'll hold probably like 30. Okay. 30 pounds of ice at a time. But it'll— so, so what that means is it can refill that cavity 3 times a day.

KEVIN

Okay. And so how do you hook that up? Like, because it's indoor, right? I know where you have it over in your—

CRAIG

It's— you use the same hookup you would for like a refrigerator ice— I mean, refrigerator water supply.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I used— we had a washer and dryer over there at one point in time that we just got rid of, but we still had the water hookup. So I just converted the cold water hookup to the, to the ice maker.

KEVIN

That makes sense.

CRAIG

So now I will— the only— and here's a couple of things. You can adjust the density of the ice, meaning how long it actually freezes before it drops.

KEVIN

So you can make it softer or harder.

CRAIG

And the softer you make, the quicker it melts.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, which, which is— will become important in a minute.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, so it has— I mean, you just, you can turn it off. I mean, and just, you know, use it when you need it.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, which I think is actually a better strategy for this thing. Like, if you can, if you can plan when you need the ice, it's better to just use it when you need it rather than just let it sit there.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, which is, I think, is true of most ice makers.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Which I think is why this, this size is great for most homeowners. Um, because most people just don't need more than 30 pounds of ice at a time, right? Yeah, it, it fills up like my large cooler. Like, I can, I can put a layer of ice in that big cooler to, you know, cool off some drinks.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And it's plenty of ice for that. It's not filled the cooler, but it puts in enough. It's enough. Yeah. So, okay, I got it because my employees come through and, you know, like, they were working out in the the heat all the time.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And I encourage them to keep a cooler on the truck, keep some water in there, keep some Gatorade in there.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And it's just better if you keep it cold. I mean, like, who wants to drink a warm Gatorade?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So that's what it's for, but we also use it for parties and different things like that. So the big thing to know about it though, well, there's a couple things. One, have a plan for the drain.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And what I mean about by that is a lot of these more expensive ice makers actually have a pump that will pull the water out as it melts.

KEVIN

Okay. All right.

CRAIG

This does not have that. It's gravity fed.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And so if you don't have a drain line that's beneath it, you're gonna have to figure out a way to manually drain it.

KEVIN

Oh, and then does— so does it automatically stop working if it's full?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Kind of like a, uh, a like a dehumidifier, for example, has like a float in it.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's a float valve that basically stops it from making ice.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So, and it does it with water or it does it with the ice.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So that's important to know. The other thing is it's not refrigerated.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

Now it's refrigerated in the sense that it's making ice.

KEVIN

But then it's just like a cooler.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

And so it's gonna melt.

CRAIG

It's gonna melt.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And that's why I was saying earlier, it might be better just to turn it on and off when you need it rather than just— unless you're just gonna be using it every day, kind of like what we do.

KEVIN

Sure. Because otherwise, it's just gonna be running. Right.

CRAIG

Which, which I went over there to check it right before the show, and it was, it was wide open. Someone had gotten ice in it.

KEVIN

And so it melted. It all melted. So this is not dissimilar to one of those countertop ice makers in the fact that it's not refrigerated, just melts and refreezes, melts, refreezes, melts, refreezes.

CRAIG

Well, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't reuse the water.

KEVIN

But it doesn't reuse use the same water.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Which is what the countertop ones do. And it's kind of nasty. I was gonna say that to me, and that, that's, that is the reason that I've never gotten a countertop ice maker because I'm like, it just uses the same water over and over.

CRAIG

Um, which I mean, I guess if it has like a filtration system or something, I don't know. But like, it doesn't seem, it doesn't seem right to me. No, I don't like it.

KEVIN

No, I don't either.

CRAIG

So anyway, it, you can pick it up on, I bought it off Amazon. It's $252. Oh yeah, right now. I mean, like, it's on sale. It's usually like $300 something. It's 20% off right now. Um, and they have a couple other ones, but the big one that I bought, it's, it's $252 right now.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, I, I'd recommend it. I mean, sure. I think for like most homes, it's gonna be better than— I mean, it's not as nice as like one of those drawer system ice makers. Sure. You know what I'm talking about?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah. Um, those, those, because those are refrigerated, right?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

It's gonna keep the ice cold forever. But like, you also run into problems with like frost and So I like this one. I'm actually thinking about, we're planning on eventually remodeling that kitchen over there. I'm thinking about making it an under-the-counter.

KEVIN

Oh, you could.

CRAIG

Because right, the safety check that I have on it right now is it comes with a flex hose out the back for the drain. And you can't ever turn the drain off, by the way.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

So you gotta have a place for that water to go.

KEVIN

Has to drain.

CRAIG

So I just, I just put it down the washing machine drain line. That was right. That was right there.

KEVIN

Yeah. So I guess that's another question is, I mean, you've got the drain line right there. Can you tee off of another existing, like if you've got a refrigerator next to it, can you tee off of the water line?

CRAIG

Oh yeah, you can.

KEVIN

I'm just wondering how that works.

CRAIG

It's just, I mean, you just go buy a splitter.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So that's no, that's no big deal.

KEVIN

So if you're wondering how am I gonna get water to it if I've already got, only got one water supply, you can just tee off of it.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's, that's simple, simple plumbing right there.

KEVIN

Easy, easy to do. And then, yeah, use it. I mean, your, your dishwasher has a drain, right? It drains into your sink most of the time, right? And so—

CRAIG

But the, the, the issue with this one is you got to have it up high enough where that drain line allows gravity to push the water through.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Because the way mine works is I had to I had to buy a platform to put the ice machine up on, and it's still not high enough to get it up into that drain line. So I have the drain line there just as a safety precaution so that the water doesn't go someplace. Okay. And if it gets enough water in there, it does push it to where it will event, but not all of it.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So when it, when it's like this, I gotta go in there with a 5-gallon bucket now.

KEVIN

Oh, and just dump it.

CRAIG

And just, yeah.

KEVIN

You just scoop it out and—

CRAIG

No, no, no. I just, I take the drain line out.

KEVIN

Oh, okay. Okay.

CRAIG

And put the bucket on the floor.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it just drains the whole thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

No, and it takes like 5 minutes.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

It's not hard. It's just annoying. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. Come on, kids.

CRAIG

So, but like, if it's full of ice, I mean, like, it'll, it'll stay there for a good long, good long while. I've had it stay full of ice for 3 days.

KEVIN

It's pretty good.

CRAIG

So, and that's without it Refrigerator.

KEVIN

I mean, if you're in an air-conditioned room, right, it's got a cooler. I mean, it is insulated inside that thing.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, it's like, I think it's a great buy. I, you know, I don't know that I would put it out on my patio.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Unless I was only going to be using it when I was going to be out there.

KEVIN

And sure.

CRAIG

But like, then you're going to have to wait and at least plan ahead. It probably needs 3 or 4 hours to fill the whole thing up. Um, which is not bad. You just have to plan ahead. But like, also, I, I just wouldn't want it outside. Like, it'd get dusty and dirty.

KEVIN

You could put it on a timer.

CRAIG

It does have a timer.

KEVIN

Oh, it does?

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

Okay, well, there you go. So, I mean, I was even thinking just a wall timer or a smart plug.

CRAIG

Well, even if— wait, if you had that, you'd still have to go turn it on.

KEVIN

Oh, it does? Okay. Like, you can't just It doesn't, it doesn't receive power and turn on when it receives power?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

No, it's got— it's too sophisticated for that.

KEVIN

Like, you—

CRAIG

because you have adjustments for the ice.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

The density of the ice, how long it freezes, all that kind of— you gotta, you gotta set it.

KEVIN

It doesn't, it doesn't preset or whatever?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Okay. Not at $252. It does a lot, right? But at $252, it's not doing all that.

CRAIG

Now, if it— if they did like an upgrade where there was like an app that you could— yeah, you know, that then it would probably be doable. But I don't— it doesn't have that.

KEVIN

Sure. So I mean, but if it's got a timer, does it not come on and off if you have the timer set?

CRAIG

I have never used the timer.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, I know it has one.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I just haven't ever used it because it doesn't— it doesn't make any sense to me.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Because we just use it all the time.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so I just haven't messed with it.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, Somebody else, if they know, I'm gonna chime in. But yeah, it's just not something I've played with, and like, I just don't see the benefit of it, honestly. Yeah, so that makes sense because I mean, like, you, you literally just have to go turn it on.

KEVIN

Yeah, press the button. Yeah, that's it.

CRAIG

Okay, um, so that—

KEVIN

we got one more thing, right?

CRAIG

The Aqua True.

KEVIN

The Aqua True.

CRAIG

So of the 3 items, they did send us this. Um, so they didn't They don't— they haven't paid us to, like, talk about it. They just sent it to us and said, hey, try it out.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, and it's, it's a fantastic water filter. It's reverse osmosis.

KEVIN

Mm-hmm.

CRAIG

Carb— I mean, like, it's got all the bells and whistles.

KEVIN

So they have a couple of different filters. Did you get the carbon filter or the alkaline mineral filter?

CRAIG

The carbon.

KEVIN

So the only difference, if you're wondering, I looked, is the alkaline filter, which is another $20 to buy, is, uh, it, it adds alkalinity, which is a thing that lots of people want these days. But anyway, carry on.

CRAIG

Yeah, so, um, this, this thing was a little bit of a chore to set up.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, because it has 3 filter cartridges in the back, um, and those have to be changed out pretty regularly.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Um, I forget the regularity on it. Let me see if it says here. Okay, so it— well, it says they last about 24 24 months. Oh, which is 2 years, which is long enough to forget that you need to do it.

KEVIN

That's true.

CRAIG

So, but it does, it filters out a bunch of stuff that most other ones don't, like microplastics, arsenic, lead, all those, you know, arsenic. That's what, yeah.

KEVIN

I kind of, I was kind of hoping to keep that in my, you know what that is? Because you never know. Like, you need to know, like, hey, it's your turn to drink today.

CRAIG

That's a spin the old revolver.

KEVIN

That's the old— it reminds me of The Princess Bride. It's the old cup trick.

CRAIG

I didn't know arsenic was an issue in water. I didn't either. Yeah, but apparently you're—

KEVIN

It's the first time I've ever heard that.

CRAIG

You've been drinking it all along, apparently. Yeah, and, uh, nitrates, it filters that out. So it's, it's a, it's a really great filtration system.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, Here, here's my beef with it.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

You have to, it has 2 tanks on it.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

You have to wash those tanks every week. Oh, soap and water. Take 'em off. You can't put 'em in the dishwasher.

KEVIN

Oh, they're not dishwasher safe.

CRAIG

I don't know that they're not dishwasher safe, but if you read the instructions, it says don't put them in the dishwasher.

KEVIN

Hand wash only. Okay.

CRAIG

Hand wash only.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So you got that.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, that's a big deal.

CRAIG

Um, and then it just doesn't hold that much water.

KEVIN

Okay, so it is interesting that you said that. I was curious because I knew you were kind of like on the fence about this thing. When, whenever I looked at the reviews, almost every review I saw was, I have to refill it all the time. Yep. All the time. Yeah.

CRAIG

Like you, you will, especially in the day and age where everybody's got a Stanley.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which I do.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I keep, I keep one in my truck all the time because I need water.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And I don't want to be refilling. Like I, it will re— I can't fill my Stanley up twice.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Well, so one of the comments I saw was, I wish I would've gotten the carafe, which is the lesser model.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Like the one that you got, the AquaTru Classic. Mm-hmm. It's $420, $475 to buy. The AquaTru Carafe is $375. So it's $100 less.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So technically, it's the lesser of the models. Now, I'm sure that it does, it just doesn't do some of the things that the other one does, most likely. Right. But people are saying, I, it, there's just not enough water. That's the biggest beef. Yeah.

CRAIG

I don't, I don't know if the carafe Actually holds that much more.

KEVIN

It may not.

CRAIG

I'm trying to look, but the but the point is still there, right?

KEVIN

It's like people want it to hold more. People want more water.

CRAIG

Yeah, I'm trying to look and see if it says how much it holds. Do do do do do.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, I would be I'd be interested because I know the probably one of their biggest competitors Brita, right? Sure, my guess. And Brita is one of the ones that doesn't filter out some of these things.

CRAIG

So, okay, I'm looking at the— it, it probably holds maybe just a little bit more.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

But I don't think, I don't think that is going to— here, here's gonna be the big difference. I don't think that system is going to filter the water as thoroughly as, as this one.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I think that's good. 'Cause I'm looking at, I'm, I'm looking at it going, there's, Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna open it up, make sure I'm—

KEVIN

What does it— it may not have the 3.

CRAIG

It doesn't.

KEVIN

The 3 filters as much. This one has the 3 filters. It probably just has one.

CRAIG

It's, it says it's making the same claims on the about it that it— microplastics, nitrates, arsenic, lead. I'm like, okay, no, it does. It does.

KEVIN

It has 3 filters.

CRAIG

It has the 3. Yeah. So, and maybe, okay, so it's a 64-ounce carafe.

KEVIN

On there, which is half a gallon.

CRAIG

Let's see what's the other one. Pull it up here. Oh, it's on here.

KEVIN

Technical. 0.75 gallons. So it, it holds more. The, the, the, the classic holds more because if it's 3/4 of a gallon 64 ounces is a half gallon. Yeah.

CRAIG

Okay. So it holds, it holds more water. Um, so, but like, it's still just not that much.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, especially if you've got more than 2 people in your home.

CRAIG

Well, and so here's, here's, it's kind of, it's kind of weird how it works, honestly. You put water into the filler tank. Okay. And then it will, cycle that water through, but not all of the water from the filler tank gets into the drinking tank. Oh, so you only get out of the water that you put in about 2/3.

KEVIN

Oh, that makes sense.

CRAIG

And so then you have to take that out. It's almost like gray water from your RV. Dump that, you dump that, you fill it back up again. And then It—

KEVIN

okay.

CRAIG

And, and so, but like, it's the same thing every time.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

Um, so, so it's, it's a lot of maintenance.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

And I like—

KEVIN

obviously pretty big countertop, countertop space.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's— I mean, it's like the size—

KEVIN

Like a Keurig?

CRAIG

No, it's bigger than that.

KEVIN

Bigger than— okay.

CRAIG

No, it's, it's— no, it's like the size of like 3 Keurigs.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's, it's pretty big.

KEVIN

It's big.

CRAIG

I mean, it's, it's almost as wide as my ice maker.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And the only reason I know that is because I have them sitting right next to each other.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And I know the dimensions of that shelf.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

And the ice maker fits perfectly, and the AquaTru just has a little bit of room on either side of it.

KEVIN

Oh, interesting.

CRAIG

So it takes up quite a bit of space.

KEVIN

Um, how long does it take to actually filter the water? Like, before you're like, I've got enough to fill up my cup? How long does that process take? Because a Brita— if I, I've had Brita for a long time, I mean, it takes some time.

CRAIG

Yeah, to filter through. I'd say it's somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and so like, if you need water like right— if you look, if you are just dead set on having like the cleanest water, cleanest drinking water, yep, this is probably the, the beast for you. Like, it just does.

KEVIN

Unless you're gonna do like a full-on RO system under your sink.

CRAIG

Yeah, and I think they even have that.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Um, that you could, you could install. Um, so, but like, I think something like this would be like if you're a renter.

KEVIN

Hmm.

CRAIG

You know what I mean? Like, you don't wanna spend all that money to improve somebody else's property, but you still wanna have clean drinking water. Um, this, this may be the way to go for you.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But like, again, takes up a lot of counter space. You have to wash it every single week.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And like, they're, they're very insistent about that. So something must be happening Sure. That it just needs to be washed every week.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and it's— there's like a caveat in the, in the instructions. It was like either every week or however often you refill it this many times, something like that.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I just remember looking at it, I was like, I don't want to do that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, I'm a set it and forget it guy.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, if you tell me I've got to wash something every week, I'm out.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it could be like the best product in the world. I just, I don't want to have I'm not interested in that kind of maintenance.

KEVIN

Yeah. So just FYI, for less money, it's $395. So almost $100 less, you can get their under-sink system. Yeah. And it stores 1.7 gallons at a time and it'll do 54 gallons a day.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

So That's truly gonna be your better option.

CRAIG

Now, does that— you put that like on a separate water spigot, I guess? You do. Yeah. Yeah.

KEVIN

So a lot, you know, there's, there's multiple ways to do it. If you've got like a granite countertop, just drill another hole.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

And then put it in.

CRAIG

So, um, so I'm interested. I haven't looked up the specs on it, but like the way I've always determined whether or not people, when I walk into their home, Golly, there's like a little bug. Get out of here.

KEVIN

Get out of here.

CRAIG

Um, people are serious about their, their water. Get out. Golly, it's like crawling all over my mic. It's like this little gnat.

KEVIN

Come on, man.

CRAIG

Um, the Berkey water filters.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. Uh-huh.

CRAIG

Like the big metal— you've seen these?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, I, I know I'm in like a homeschool house when, when I see a Berkey. You know what I mean?

KEVIN

Yes, I do.

CRAIG

And I don't know what it is about those.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

There doesn't seem to be any power going to them. I think they're just like, it's just like a water filter.

KEVIN

I think so too.

CRAIG

Like maybe charcoal, something like that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's what I've always seen associated with people who are serious about drinking clean water.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And those things hold a bunch of water.

KEVIN

They do.

CRAIG

But I think they're like $1,000 a pop or something. Yeah.

KEVIN

That's a lot.

CRAIG

Is that— yeah, am I—

KEVIN

I think you're right.

CRAIG

Am I?

KEVIN

Yeah, I'm guessing they're, they're expensive.

CRAIG

Um, and that's what I mean when I say, like, when I, when I see those, I'm like, okay, you're taking this seriously, right? Um, I will tell you, like, just the mechanics of this thing and the, and the filters that I had to install and, like, all the steps I had to do to put the whole thing together, it's a serious water filtration system. Yeah, like, you're—

KEVIN

it does, it does what it has set out to do as far as filter your water really, really well.

CRAIG

Yep. Yeah, and that's what I mean. Like, if you're serious about it, this is probably a good way to go and you don't wanna do the under-sink thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which, I mean, like, if you're not, if you don't have any plumbing skills and you don't wanna mess with that or you don't feel like hiring somebody to do that, this is probably a good alternative to that. But again, lots of counter space, lots of maintenance.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So the water tastes good.

KEVIN

That's good. Yeah.

CRAIG

So I mean, like, I don't know that I, I don't know that you could convince me to spend $400 on this though. Sure.

KEVIN

Well, it's not, it's not $400, it's $475. It's almost $500.

CRAIG

Well, it's on sale right now.

KEVIN

Oh, okay. Yeah.

CRAIG

So usually it is $475, right now it's $400.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, but like, again, like if you're serious about it, probably a good way to go.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And apparently they have a smart version that comes with an app.

KEVIN

And I think that's $50 more.

CRAIG

I think the app like will tell you to like refill it or like, hey, you need to change the filters. I imagine that's what it does. I don't have that version, so I can't really speak as to what the app does.

KEVIN

Well, and it's very difficult. If AquaTru is listening, it's very difficult to know the difference based on the website. what the difference is in the two, right? And what the app actually gives you access to. Like, it doesn't— I don't find anywhere on there that shows me that information. So maybe add some information. Sure.

CRAIG

So that'd be helpful. So, but it has, it has really good reviews. So again, I think this is like speaking to a very specific group of people, right? Um, and there's people who out there are fanatic about Oh yeah. Microplastics in their water. Oh yeah. For me, I grew up on a well, man.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, me too.

CRAIG

So I just, it's just not never been in my—

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Now I'm not now.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I would love to be eventually.

KEVIN

We are. I love it. Yeah.

CRAIG

Until the power goes out and you're outta town.

KEVIN

Well, the power goes out, I'm outta town.

CRAIG

Dude, I was literally talking about you last night. I was at a rodeo.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And this gal that we ride with, was telling me, uh, they lost power in Tomball yesterday at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

KEVIN

Oh man.

CRAIG

And she was getting the report that they weren't gonna get it back till right about now.

KEVIN

Oh wow.

CRAIG

And, and she was telling me, she's like, I, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I've got a barn full of horses and I'm on a well and I don't have a way to hook up.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

I don't have a generator to hook up to my—

KEVIN

You gotta get a generator, man.

CRAIG

And I was like, look, if you get, if you get in a tight spot, call me. I'll come. I'll bring the generator.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

We'll, we'll hook it up. Yes. It's not hard.

KEVIN

No, but you have, yeah, you, you have to, if you are on a well, I'm, I'm telling you this right now. If you are on a well and you don't have a generator, you are setting yourself up for disaster. For disaster. Because we live in a, in a world where water, not only do we need it for our own selves, you need it for your toilets. You need it for your cooking. You need it for your animals.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Like you, you've gotta have the water and that's, I was shocked. I was genuinely shocked whenever we moved there to find out that they didn't have a generator when they'd been on a well. That well was dug whenever the house was installed.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Installed? Built.

CRAIG

Built.

KEVIN

Um, the water well was installed when— anyway, it was dug at that point. And I'm like, why? I don't understand why they— but they didn't. And Now we just roll our generator out there and it'll, it'll do what it needs to do.

CRAIG

Have you, have you heard any of the conspiracy theories around water in Texas here lately?

KEVIN

Uh, no.

CRAIG

So there's some, there's some, there's some interest. Well, one, you've got the data center, uh, conspiracy about how they're gonna steal all the water.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, and, uh, okay, so, so there's that one. I, I wanna come back to that one because I get frustrated when people Talk about that one.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and then there's the other one where they're talking about these investors who are building communities closer and closer to other communities and are tapping into these aquifers. And there's like, even our neighborhood, I— there was a post in our neighborhood Facebook group the other day. It's like, hey, we need to pay attention to this because this guy's trying to build something next to us and he's going to steal our water.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So like, there's this whole thing. I've heard of that. These guys tapping into these aquifers that, you know, communities have been using for years and years and years. and are just going to dry them up and we're going to be without water. Um, which, I mean, if you ever watched The, um, The Big Short—

KEVIN

I have watched it.

CRAIG

That was the end of that movie, was like, the next thing's water. Um, and he may be right.

KEVIN

Maybe right. Um, although if you keep drilling, there's more water. But anyway, yeah, not always.

CRAIG

So, but the— I, I recently found out that all these most people that are concerned about these data centers are getting that information from TikTok.

KEVIN

Oh, of course.

CRAIG

And this is what I think some people need to understand. I'm not saying that data centers are good.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Okay? I'm not making that argument.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

The argument I am making is that there is a race for AI and data Like there was a race to the moon back in the '60s.

KEVIN

Yes, that's true.

CRAIG

Okay, whether or not you believe that we went to the moon is a whole other issue, but there was a race to the moon and it was a technological race. We have the same race going on right now with China.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Okay, and China would love nothing more than to convince the American populace that data centers are bad so that they can have all of them.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's what's going on.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And so all this stuff about how we're gonna lose all our water, it's just not true.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

It's propaganda.

KEVIN

It is.

CRAIG

That's being dispersed from China to convince Americans that data centers are bad.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And again, I'm not making the case that they're good. I'm just telling you—

KEVIN

That's what's happening.

CRAIG

If you're getting your information from TikTok and Instagram, look somewhere else. And you're not actually researching this, look into where that information's coming from. What's the source?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And it's not good.

KEVIN

No, it's not.

CRAIG

Because they want to win that war.

KEVIN

Of course. And at this rate, they will.

CRAIG

They will.

KEVIN

And because I, you know, I'll just say like, there, there, I know that you, you might feel like there's a lot of people who are just bypassing whatever system you think is set up. Mm-hmm. But there's a lot of people that aren't gonna let those things go in if it's gonna drain the water supply. Right. It's just, you, you don't like a city of Abilene. Mm-hmm. Where they're putting in a big data center there. They're not gonna go, oh, you're gonna steal all our water. Please put that in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like there, there are people that know what they're talking about who are making these decisions.

CRAIG

So, and I, and, and AI is not the problem.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Like that's the other thing is everyone's like, these are evil AI data centers. And I'm like, look, AI is not the thing that's going to win this technological war. People don't understand it's gonna be robotics and quantum computing.

KEVIN

Correct. Yeah. The robotics, The robotics specifically, I, I think that's gonna be really interesting.

CRAIG

It already is interesting.

KEVIN

Uh-huh. I mean, I, I'm still, I, we'll see if my prediction holds, but my prediction is still that robots, like home robots will be free to own and you'll just buy a subscription.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's, that's for whatever you want.

CRAIG

I guarantee you that's where Elon's brain is right now.

KEVIN

I, I, yeah. I just, I, we don't know because he hasn't come out and said that, but like, that's just my prediction. Why wouldn't it? Like, I want the sushi module, or I want the dog cleaning up, you know, after their poop module. You know what I mean?

CRAIG

Like, what's the add-on?

KEVIN

What's the add-on? Another $2 a month? Give it to me.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know what I mean? That's, that's what I think is coming.

CRAIG

But he's also smart enough. He could get it coming and going. I mean, he did the same thing with Tesla. He did the same thing with Starlink. Yep. You bought the model and then you pay for the subscription. That's right. Tesla, you bought the model, then you pay for the subscription.

KEVIN

Yeah. You're not wrong.

CRAIG

Um, and he'll probably do the same thing with the robots.

KEVIN

Yeah. Why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he?

CRAIG

No. Anyway, anything else?

KEVIN

All right. No, I think that's it. Thank you for listening this morning. Different, different venue time, but glad you're here. And if you've not already, go check out our new website, homeownershow.com. Go sign up for the newsletter. Go leave us a review right there on our website. You can see all of our shorts. You can see all of our clips. All of it's on our website, uh, so go, go check it out. And, uh, hope everyone has a fantastic week. Until next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya!

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