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In this episode, Craig and Kevin talk about the top 5 fastest growing cities in the United States. We found a very interesting trend in this list. We react to the list and give you our opinions of what is happening and why these are the fastest growing cities. Are you surprised by this list?

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KEVIN

This is episode number 211 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're so glad you could join us for another episode here live from The Homeowner Show studios. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

I'm good. How are you?

CRAIG

Wunderbar, darling.

KEVIN

I don't even know what you just said.

CRAIG

I think it's from Green Acres.

KEVIN

I think it is too. Now that you say that, I'm like, that sounds exactly like Green Acres is the place to be.

CRAIG

Keep it going.

KEVIN

Farm living is the life for me.

CRAIG

Bring it home, Kev.

KEVIN

I'm not going to keep going. It's all done.

CRAIG

Ah, I have exciting news.

KEVIN

Okay, bring it.

CRAIG

2 Bourbon Craig.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

It's making a return.

KEVIN

Man.

CRAIG

By the end of the show, he may even be 3 Bourbon Craig.

KEVIN

We are, y'all, we are in for a treat because this is my favorite Craig.

CRAIG

Mine too. Mine too.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So I have a, I actually have a correction To offer from last week. Oh, or last episode. That's not fair. Last episode.

KEVIN

Let okay.

CRAIG

When we were talking with Farrah, yes. And we I think we talked about Cinco de Mayo.

KEVIN

We did.

CRAIG

And then I started talking about how France was involved with the American Civil War.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Which is true, but only kind of. Okay. So expound. They had an official position of neutrality.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

But there was a lot of shenanigans going on between private citizens and unrecognized ambassadors from the Confederacy.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So apparently, at one point in time, the ambassador from the Confederacy, and I think it was, like, John Slidell, I think was his name, secured a loan for, like, $15 million.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

Went from an individual in France in order to purchase ships for the Confederate Navy.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

So, and here's the thing. Here's the part that, like, I think this is where my— the homunculus in my brain was actually connecting the dots because here's what's happened in— let's see, where was it?

KEVIN

Oh, West Philadelphia, born and raised.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

On a playground.

CRAIG

Not even close.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah. Okay. So in 1864, because France had an official position of neutrality in the American Civil War, they invaded Mexico.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And set up a puppet dictator named Maximilian.

KEVIN

That's where Maximilian comes in.

CRAIG

Which they ousted, of course, on Cinco de Mayo. 2 years later.

KEVIN

And, and this is where we come into the full circle.

CRAIG

Full circle.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, yeah.

KEVIN

So here's the question. Did you go research that or did someone point you out?

CRAIG

No, I went and researched it because, like, as I, like, I remember talking about it during the show and I was like, you're saying stuff, but you don't know what you're talking about.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Like, you really don't know what you're talking about.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

And, but, like, there was, there was 90% of our show. Well, but, like, it was, that's true. But I was— I mean, in my head I'm going like, okay, like, I know that there's something to this, and like, I know there's a reason my brain is connecting these dots.

KEVIN

I just couldn't remember why. Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and there it is.

KEVIN

That's it.

CRAIG

That's the thing.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

So yeah, we were, we were all kind of talking about the same thing.

KEVIN

Yeah. One, one thing you're not going to get me to talk about is history and geography.

CRAIG

And geography.

KEVIN

I, I really enjoy history, Now, I really hated it growing up. Really?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Because it was always like the crappy football coach that got stuck teaching history. And it was like, fill this paper out and I'm going to work on plays, is how that worked.

CRAIG

See, I had a totally different experience. I mean, like, I think some of my most passionate teachers when I was in school were history teachers.

KEVIN

So that all changed for me when I was in my freshman year of college. And I had a teacher who was super passionate about it, and it was actually my favorite class. Um, I loved it. And over the years, I've enjoyed it more. But man, I, I did not learn very much up until then as far as I go in geography. Like, good luck, man.

CRAIG

I think, I think that's fair. I think like when you're in grade school, middle school, high school, I mean, it's pretty much survey kind of stuff. Yeah. You know? Oh yeah. But like when you get to, when you get college, I think, is when you really get to kind of dig in a little bit deeper into some of the more interesting aspects of what history is actually comprised of.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And this was one of the ones for me. I mean, like, the American Civil War, I mean, was just, you know, so many people want to reduce it down to such simple things, and it's just not a simple thing.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

And You know, and so like, like even when you, when you start looking at like the way that other countries, uh, treat— as I was reading about this, it was like France wanted to intervene to end the Civil War, um, but they couldn't get a coalition of superpowers to agree with them. Like Britain and Russia wanted the war to continue. They didn't like that the US was, you know, when they were together, that they were actually powerful and influential. Right.

KEVIN

They wanted them.

CRAIG

They liked the fact that they were fighting. So it was interesting stuff, man. So anyway, just wanted to offer that slight correction to my because there were a lot of people. I promise you my BS historical rantings from last episode.

KEVIN

There were so many people that were like, "That Craig is wrong." He's so wrong right now.

CRAIG

Well, that's every episode.

KEVIN

Yeah, we we could have gotten emails.

CRAIG

We could have. We didn't.

KEVIN

We didn't. No, not about that.

CRAIG

Not even from my cousin who's actually like a professional historian.

KEVIN

Oh, so, and he would have been well within his right, but he would have been had to be listening. I may have.

CRAIG

He's a very sweet person, so he may have just been like, it's not worth it. Yeah, it's probably all right.

KEVIN

No, he's a moron.

CRAIG

He's probably, you know, like, he's probably right. It just wasn't worth his time. He's got, he's got 5th graders that have way more potential.

KEVIN

That's funny.

CRAIG

Than me.

KEVIN

Hey, so, uh, at some point we're going to have to, uh, do a review on something that I just got a notification about.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Which is that my dryer has completed its cycle.

CRAIG

Oh, it just told you?

KEVIN

Yep, my clothes are dry.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's awful polite of it.

KEVIN

It's, it's pretty amazing actually.

CRAIG

Pretty swanky dryer you got there, you know.

KEVIN

Go big or go home.

CRAIG

Talking to you across the interwebs all the way over here.

KEVIN

Exactly. So what it really is—

CRAIG

Is it a good font?

KEVIN

No, it's normal. What, what, uh, what is really great is then I can just text my wife and say, dryer's done. You got the same notification, but you didn't pay attention. That's how that goes.

CRAIG

So just like a normal dryer.

KEVIN

Yes, exactly. There's really no difference except that now I've got annoying notifications on my watch. No, it's actually really, really good, so we'll have to do a review on it.

CRAIG

What's the brand?

KEVIN

It's Maytag.

CRAIG

Maytag, okay.

KEVIN

Yeah, I— we went through a lot of iterations of what we were gonna do before we landed on this, and there are nuances to all that, so it's a— it'll be a good episode, I'll put it that way, because there's, there's a lot of things to consider.

CRAIG

Here's the one thing I know about Maytag right now.

KEVIN

What's that?

CRAIG

The new guy that's, uh, the blue repairman, uh-huh, is the cop from Eureka.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

You ever watch that show?

KEVIN

I never did, but I, I kind of have an idea of— I, now that you say that, I, I see the guy. Uh-huh. Okay, I, I can, I can— okay.

CRAIG

I kind of feel like it's a demotion, but good for him, he's working.

KEVIN

He's making money as the repair guy. He's not a repair guy. Maytag guy's the one installing the Maytag.

CRAIG

Well, but that's, that's the whole— that's the whole thing. You don't need a repairman.

KEVIN

Exactly. Yeah.

CRAIG

But he's the Maytag repairman.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, so he's a funny actor. I don't know why. I mean, like, I guess it's a good gig. I mean, maybe hopefully he's making good money.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

He may— he had a good role on Eureka. If you— dude, if you haven't ever watched that, that's a good show.

KEVIN

I've never watched it.

CRAIG

Dude, make it a, uh— here, do this, do this. There you go.

KEVIN

That fly— is it a fly?

CRAIG

It's the fly.

KEVIN

That fly—

CRAIG

We got one fly in the studio.

KEVIN

It is annoying me to no end.

CRAIG

He is marked for death.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, yes, he is. And if only I had a flyswatter a little bit larger than my hat, then he'd be gone already. Be gone for sure.

CRAIG

So we are picking up from a few episodes ago, a series that we're doing on the top 5 cities. And so all this information is coming from WalletHub. They did a lot of deep dive into some data. And so bringing you— and obviously their list is I think this one goes to all. Let's— I'm gonna scroll all the way down to the bottom. Number 182. So 182 cities. Obviously, that's not all the cities in the US, but the— we're gonna go through the top 5 cities.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

In the United States that are the happiest cities, at least according to the data.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

That they collected. WalletHub.

KEVIN

And now we, we probably have to be pretty explicit here and say that not weird explicit, just like specific.

CRAIG

Yeah, don't be dirty.

KEVIN

Yeah, uh, probably need to be specific.

CRAIG

It's a different kind of happy.

KEVIN

Um, that, uh, this is based on happiness, not on necessarily— like, I assume—

CRAIG

Which is a very subjective thing.

KEVIN

Yeah, and, and so I assume we're talking about the people that live there feel happy. And more than what the city itself does to you.

CRAIG

Well, so they based it off of 3 categories.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So the 3 categories being emotional and physical well-being.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Income and employment. And community and environment.

KEVIN

Okay. So, so it really is like, I don't really know how you— of living there.

CRAIG

Income and employment, I understand how you measure those things.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Emotional and physical well-being. I don't know how you measure that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, do you have less appointments with therapists and counselors?

KEVIN

And we can't employ counselors because they keep going out of business.

CRAIG

I mean, in the cities where there's emotional and physical well-being, are the counselors poorer? I mean, do you—

KEVIN

which, which acts at, you know, it indirectly affects the, the whole employment and—

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

The amount of money you're making.

CRAIG

It's got to factor in there.

KEVIN

So it adversely affects one of the categories.

CRAIG

Well, and, and then the third category, which I think is a weird category, is community and environment. Like, to me, those are very different things.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Because I would imagine, just shooting from the hip here, that community in parts of Montana are pretty low, but that the environmental situation is pretty high. I don't know how you, how you put those, why you would put those 2 things together into it. Like, I understand those 2 things as independent categories.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

I don't understand them as a single category.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah.

CRAIG

If that makes sense.

KEVIN

Yeah. Although, unless you can find that perfect scenario that has both of those things together, maybe, I don't know. And then you ask the question, why are there 182 options then on this list?

CRAIG

So, and I would, I would also like to point out that number 182, uh, sorry. Well, let's, let's also mention that poor 182. There's, there's a lot of cities not on the list. Uh-huh. So they fell below this. But number 182 is Detroit, Michigan. So doesn't matter how good your music is, Motown. No, you ain't— you ain't happy.

KEVIN

Well, that's kind of the point.

CRAIG

You're 1 in 182.

KEVIN

Is it?

CRAIG

You would think that the music would make them feel better.

KEVIN

The music would make them feel better, maybe, but the music that's being produced is not necessarily always happy.

CRAIG

Sure. But I mean, it's good music.

KEVIN

It is. Well, I don't disagree with you.

CRAIG

So good music should make everyone happy.

KEVIN

You would think it should. If that were the case, let's just blare music everywhere.

CRAIG

That's radio.

KEVIN

Well, people don't listen to that anymore.

CRAIG

Well, but I mean, like, you know, Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music. I mean, people are— people are— I actually think people are listening to more and more diverse music than they have in the past. For sure.

KEVIN

Yeah. But the access to it's a whole lot different.

CRAIG

But I don't know that that's affecting the happiness of any of these cities.

KEVIN

Well, we'll find out.

CRAIG

Yeah. So do you wanna just go through the list real quick?

KEVIN

Yeah. So we're gonna start with number 5, right?

CRAIG

I mean, just right off the bat, we think this list is bunk.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, there's something very biased about this list, first of all. So the number 5 is Irvine, California. Yep. And do you want me to just go through it?

CRAIG

Well, so Irvine, California, I mean, it had a total score of 70.38. It came in number 5 in emotional and physical well-being. It came in number 16 under income and employment, and it came in number 12 on community and environment.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So for those reasons, it's number 5.

KEVIN

Number 5.

CRAIG

Yeah. What, like, Irvine, is that where, is that where Apple is? Headquartered? I don't know.

KEVIN

Nope. No, it's Cupertino.

CRAIG

Cupertino. What's in Irvine? Something's in Irvine. There's like—

KEVIN

I mean, a lot of happy people.

CRAIG

That's what's apparently—

KEVIN

what's in Irvine? This tells you how much we know people. Again, we're talking geography a little bit.

CRAIG

Our best subject.

KEVIN

What is Irvine known for? Beautiful parks, friendly people, low crime, and great schools. Actually, that's happy.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's not bad. That's what they're known for. That's what it's known for. If that's what you're known for, then hey, I imagine you have a pretty happy community.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, the next question I find is what's special about Irvine? And it says it's family-oriented town full of sprawling bike paths and rows of pretty houses. I actually want to live there now.

CRAIG

Dude, if you, if you want to chase me out of somewhere, tell me that there are rows of houses.

KEVIN

Rows of houses, but they're pretty.

CRAIG

I don't care. I don't care.

KEVIN

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm fine with that.

CRAIG

I want a house.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Where there could be rows of houses, but there are no houses.

KEVIN

There are— there's actually a lack of rows.

CRAIG

There's a lack of houses, but there is a house.

KEVIN

Yeah, that would be fantastic.

CRAIG

Just me and the horse. That's, that's what I want.

KEVIN

Okay, well then we're back to Montana again. I'm in. Yeah, I, I'm sure it's beautiful. I've never been there. I'd like to go to Montana. Have you been to Montana?

CRAIG

I've never been to— again, like we mentioned last episode, I've never been north of the Mason-Dixon line except to go to Chicago.

KEVIN

That is, that is really And about the only—

CRAIG

amazing— the re— one of the only ways that you could talk me into doing it in Montana, Wyoming, one of the Dakotas—

KEVIN

food.

CRAIG

Maybe food.

KEVIN

Yeah. I feel like—

CRAIG

I feel like you could talk me into going to Alaska. I could. I would go. I would go to Alaska, dude.

KEVIN

So my mother-in-law actually just got back from Alaska. Uh, she spent, uh, they did 14 days.

CRAIG

I saw that.

KEVIN

Yeah, cruise, week-long cruise and a week-long, uh, land.

CRAIG

Also Idaho.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

Like, it's— I think, I think Idaho is gonna quickly become like sort of like the, the secret of the American West.

KEVIN

Because nobody wants to live there?

CRAIG

No, like it actually has like really, like really, really pretty places.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. Oh no, and there's some gorgeous places.

CRAIG

But most people think of like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado. Yeah, things like that. Most people don't think about Idaho.

KEVIN

No, because they got potatoes. Yeah, I mean, also good food.

CRAIG

Well, I think, I think most people hear Idaho and they think potatoes, and so they immediately think like Kansas.

KEVIN

Ah.

CRAIG

And it's not. He is in your face. This stupid fly.

KEVIN

This kind of—

CRAIG

that was so great. I really hope the camera was on you.

KEVIN

It was not. If, uh, if you like suddenly hear a weird crash on— just know that I have killed something.

CRAIG

He's actually on the camera right now, and I really want to smack him. But I know if I do, I'm gonna mess up the shot.

KEVIN

I know. Is it worth it?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

No, I don't think so either.

CRAIG

Oh, I'll get him. I'll get him here in a minute.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

So anyway, number 4.

KEVIN

Number 4 is San Jose, California.

CRAIG

San Jose.

KEVIN

Wasn't San Jose on one of our other lists?

CRAIG

I think it was.

KEVIN

I think it was too.

CRAIG

Um, but here, here's where it ranked. San Jose is number 2 in emotional and physical well-being. Number 6 in income and employment, and number 55 in community and environment. So not, not a really great community, but, I mean, like, not a terrible community.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But number 2 in emotional and physical well-being.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, again, we're talking about cities on a coast area.

CRAIG

Coastal, coastal area.

KEVIN

Coastal area.

CRAIG

And so, like, I would imagine San Jose is a pretty area, pretty, a pretty place outside. Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and the, the atmosphere is nice. The climate is nice. The, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think that it's, uh, that California has a lot to offer whenever it comes to like enjoyability of where you're living.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

Um, you know, it's, it's got a lot of, you know, a lot of big trees.

CRAIG

Does it?

KEVIN

Well, there's the redwoods there and the sequoias. So there's really big trees. But, yeah, it's— so, you know, I'll say that San Jose apparently is notable for its affluent lifestyle, flourishing job market, cultural diversity, and beautiful natural landscape.

CRAIG

Yeah. So San Jose was on another list, but I think it was because it was so close to Fremont.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah.

CRAIG

And so here's what I'll say is I've spent— I mean, just south of there, I've spent a fair amount of time in Los Angeles.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And one of the things, and if you look at sort of like the landscape, I mean, it's part of mountain ranges that go up and down the coast.

KEVIN

There's a lot of hiking there.

CRAIG

Yes. But one of the things that it creates there that's really interesting is every time I've been to Los Angeles, it's been in the summer. And it's like, when it's the hottest, it's like 85, 86 degrees. And I'm sure it gets a little hotter there sometimes. But every day I was there, man, it was like 85 degrees in the middle of the day. And then at night, it was like 55.

KEVIN

Right. It's beautiful.

CRAIG

And I was like, alright, I get it.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Like, this is nice. This is really, really nice.

KEVIN

Really nice.

CRAIG

You don't really have to have air conditioning.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Because, I mean, it gets to 85 at the heat of the day, but and it's just gonna cool down to 55 at night.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So you don't really need that.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

You can, you can like, you know, if you're insulated well, you can cool your house down at night and it's gonna like sort of maintain that 72-ish throughout the day with like an oscillating fan.

KEVIN

Yeah. So it's pretty amazing.

CRAIG

Um, but yeah, so I mean, like, I— and so San Jose is, you know, it looks like it's probably like 3 or 4 hours north of Los Angeles. So I imagine it's got very similar climate. Yeah. And, you know, in weather.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, and one of the other things that you'll— if you talk to Californians, when they come to Texas, one of the things that freaks them out about living here is thunderstorms.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, they've never had to experience those there.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Which is weird.

KEVIN

Yet they do have to worry about earthquakes.

CRAIG

Earthquakes is a thing for sure.

KEVIN

But, yeah, you know, It just— that's something that most of them just deal with, you know?

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, it's sort of like hurricanes here.

KEVIN

Yeah, you just deal with it.

CRAIG

You just kind of figure it out.

KEVIN

Yep, exactly.

CRAIG

All right, moving on.

KEVIN

The next one, and, and I will— I can see this being the case.

CRAIG

And I, I actually don't think this is fair, but carry on.

KEVIN

Okay, so the next one is San Francisco, California, which is the same place as San Jose.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Yeah, they're, they're like next door to each other.

CRAIG

Yes, it is the same place.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is.

CRAIG

Now I imagine people from San Jose are like, to hell with you.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. They probably don't want anything to do with San Francisco. Most likely.

CRAIG

Suck it up, buttercup.

KEVIN

You live next door. There's nothing you can do about it.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

But have you been to San Francisco? No. Okay. Never been. We've been once and we had a great time. I mean, the theater area, Is is nice. The I don't know, like there are museums all over the place. The everything about our trip was great. The you know the the wharf area was amazing. I mean they do have a lot of good food. Ghirardelli's there, so there's that. I don't know. We, we enjoy— in fact, we were talking just the other day about like places to go on vacation, and we said we'd go back to San Francisco. It was nice.

CRAIG

Yeah. So dude, have you, have you seen this comment in the—

KEVIN

Oh yeah, I saw it and then I deleted it.

CRAIG

You deleted it?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

What the heck is that?

KEVIN

I don't know, some spam. It's spam. We got spam comment.

CRAIG

What the—

KEVIN

I don't, I don't know.

CRAIG

Love spell? I—

KEVIN

yeah, I don't know. I deleted it. Oh, why? Why?

CRAIG

I like to think that we have magical powers, Kevin.

KEVIN

Well, we don't.

CRAIG

We could.

KEVIN

But this person needs their relationship mended with their fiancée.

CRAIG

It says that we saved their marriage.

KEVIN

I doubt it. There's no way. There's no way that's true. Unless they live in one of the next 2 cities.

CRAIG

One of the—

KEVIN

2 happiest places on the planet.

CRAIG

That's the only thing that could have done it.

KEVIN

I don't know.

CRAIG

That's pretty funny. I know.

KEVIN

It was a— yes. Yes. Thank you, Jewel.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

For giving us that.

CRAIG

May you have many more happy years.

KEVIN

You're welcome.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

All right. So the next one, This can't be right because it's not in California.

CRAIG

That's right. I don't know if you noticed the trend, people, but the last 3 cities were all in California.

KEVIN

That's right. And this one is Columbia, Maryland.

CRAIG

Uh-huh.

KEVIN

I, I don't know anything about it.

CRAIG

Well, let's—

KEVIN

I mean, I've never been to Maryland.

CRAIG

Let's see what you can learn by Googling.

KEVIN

I would like to go to Maryland. I don't think I've been there. Maybe I have because I've been through, like, that area and, like, it seems like every state is next like the next city for us. It's just like we're in a new state. We're in a new state. We're in a new state is how I feel about it.

CRAIG

Okay, so Columbia sits— it looks like it's like an hour southwest of Baltimore.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

Okay. And then so is this okay? And then so, okay, like it sits almost exactly in the middle between Baltimore and DC.

KEVIN

Oh, well, then I guarantee that I've been through there.

CRAIG

And then I've— it's like northwest of Annapolis.

KEVIN

Oh, I want to go there.

CRAIG

So it's, it's not very far from like the Baltimore International Airport. Um, looks like it's really close to like a lot of parks.

KEVIN

Yeah. Um, So what, what I find on the internet is that, um, they've got a thriving tech industry, plenty of fun things to do, warm summers, access to Baltimore and DC, good public transportation.

CRAIG

Um, you got 3 quarters of a clover in the middle of downtown.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Like one of those driving—

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You, you zoomed in.

CRAIG

They didn't finish the Okay. Anyway.

KEVIN

Well, they only had 3 areas they needed to get to.

CRAIG

Oh wait, they got another one. It's down here near the border. Sorry.

KEVIN

Another clover?

CRAIG

They got a full clover and then a 3/4 clover. 2 3/4 clovers.

KEVIN

Well, their public transportation can figure it out because they've got great public transportation apparently.

CRAIG

And 1 Chick-fil-A just outside of city limits.

KEVIN

Outside of the city limits?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So they're number 2 on the list and don't even have a Chick-fil-A in their town?

CRAIG

No Chick-fil-A's in Colombia.

KEVIN

That is shocking, y'all.

CRAIG

Yeah. I would imagine the manners in that city are lacking.

KEVIN

They probably are because there's no one teaching them to take my pleasure.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

There's no one in that whole city teaching them about manners. You're right.

CRAIG

Wait, wait, wait. I stand corrected. There is a Starbucks. Oh, I mean a Starbucks, a Chick-fil-A.

KEVIN

Say what? Sorry.

CRAIG

There was a Starbucks on my map. There is a Chick-fil-A at the mall.

KEVIN

Oh, well, of course, because it's the mall.

CRAIG

And a Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

At the mall?

CRAIG

Near the mall.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

But a Texas Roadhouse nonetheless in Maryland.

KEVIN

It is interesting how many places have Texas Roadhouse.

CRAIG

Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

Yeah. And people think that that's like—

CRAIG

That's the embodiment of Texas.

KEVIN

And it's not. I mean, they do have great rolls.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

The rolls are amazing.

CRAIG

I, I'm actually curious if if it's okay to throw the peanuts on the floor at every Texas Roadhouse everywhere.

KEVIN

I— what's interesting is like you see that less and less now in general.

CRAIG

Really?

KEVIN

Yes, they do not just have peanuts at the front door and everything where you just grab—

CRAIG

Is that because of allergies?

KEVIN

I assume so. I assume so.

CRAIG

Sissies.

KEVIN

I mean, you, you can still get peanuts, but you have to like dispose of them discreetly, I guess.

CRAIG

Look, look, if you have a peanut allergy, Yeah, don't go to a Texas Roadhouse.

KEVIN

Well, I don't know why you would.

CRAIG

It's not—

KEVIN

look, look, I'm not dumping on Texas Roadhouse or people with peanut allergies, either way.

CRAIG

Yeah, but there are better places to get steaks.

KEVIN

Uh, 100% better.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't want— I don't want any—

KEVIN

We have plenty of time.

CRAIG

Do you? How much? Dude, that's a whole other episode. I need an hour.

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

But, and again, the steaks at Texas Roadhouse aren't bad.

KEVIN

No, they're fine.

CRAIG

They're good steaks.

KEVIN

Yeah. But like, I eat them.

CRAIG

If you're gonna tell me like you are preventing me and my allergy, my peanut allergy friend from having dinner, no. Yeah, I'm not.

KEVIN

No, because honestly, next door is probably Saltgrass.

CRAIG

And it's fine.

KEVIN

It's fine. Yeah.

CRAIG

It's on the same level.

KEVIN

They're comparable. So if you want a fine steak, A decent steak. Didn't go to Saltgrass, Texas Roadhouse, Outback.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

And we've named that category. There are other categories as well.

CRAIG

That's right. There are subcategories.

KEVIN

You know what? Like, since we're on the subject for just a moment, sure, we're not going to take too much of a tangent here.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

But you know who has a surprisingly Okay, steak.

CRAIG

Who?

KEVIN

Chili's. Shut your mouth. No, I'm telling you.

CRAIG

No, you're not. You're not allowed to talk anymore.

KEVIN

It is. It is.

CRAIG

You're done for the rest of the episode.

KEVIN

I would equally eat that to a Texas Roadhouse steak. I'm not joking.

CRAIG

I wouldn't do that.

KEVIN

I'm not joking you. Have you not tried it?

CRAIG

I don't need to. I've tried other things at Chili's.

KEVIN

It is one of the more shocking things about Chili's. No, you're just not worth it.

CRAIG

I guess you're just gonna have to take my word for it because I'm not gonna.

KEVIN

You should. It's surprising, I promise you.

CRAIG

It's like telling me that Gremlins deserved an Oscar.

KEVIN

Well, that's not true.

CRAIG

See, something I didn't say— what I said, some things I don't need to go through the process in order to know that they're not accurate.

KEVIN

See, I said it's surprisingly decent. That was the words I used.

CRAIG

I am surprised by your statement.

KEVIN

Okay, well, I guess you'll forever live without not knowing— without not knowing— without knowing—

CRAIG

without knowing that.

KEVIN

I mean, you know now because I told you.

CRAIG

I'm okay with this logic. I don't need to know that. There's nothing— there's nothing about that that I need to know.

KEVIN

Okay. Well, do you do— no, no, you don't know.

CRAIG

I mean, like, I, I've had a firm commitment to not darken the door of a Chili's for at least the last decade.

KEVIN

Wow, that's impressive.

CRAIG

It's just not worth my time.

KEVIN

I mean, they're—

CRAIG

I only have so many meals left, Kevin.

KEVIN

They're chili cakes.

CRAIG

The chili cakes. That ain't one of them.

KEVIN

That ain't one of them? No. Okay.

CRAIG

All right.

KEVIN

Moving on.

CRAIG

Or Colombia.

KEVIN

I don't. Yeah, I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure people from Colombia are very happy.

CRAIG

Maybe they're happier because I'm not there. I don't know.

KEVIN

Well, that's for sure. Okay, so the last one.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

Guess what, people?

CRAIG

Let's go back to California.

KEVIN

Go back to California, and we are in.

CRAIG

All I got to say is screw you, WalletHub.

KEVIN

WalletHub does— why did we start this?

CRAIG

Because it's something worth talking about. I mean, people go to WalletHub for information. Sure. They collect a lot of data, but I'm beginning to think they're a little biased.

KEVIN

Yeah. There's no other explanation that I can give other than the fact that California is— 4 of the top 5. is the most happiest place on the earth. Or, well, sorry, there are other places on the earth other than the United States. Sure. Not mean to say that.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Did not mean to say that, nor do I actually think that.

CRAIG

You said the quiet part out loud. Sorry.

KEVIN

We just edit that out, right? That's what we do here.

CRAIG

We edit things.

KEVIN

No, we don't. It'll be in there. So Fremont I, I, so I literally Googled what's great about Fremont, California.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

And the first thing that comes on up is Fremont is a very family-friendly city.

CRAIG

It's, it's a suburb of San Francisco, right?

KEVIN

Guess what? Just like every— San Jose.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

3 of the 5 places that are on this place are centrally located in San Francisco.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, I don't know. Whoever wrote this is probably from Fremont and really likes San Francisco.

CRAIG

So here, here's, here's an interesting thing that they say in their little article that, like, you know, is, is priming you for the list on WalletHub that they're about to do.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, it's, uh, let's see, where do I start? Let me, let me start at the beginning. Location plays a hand in how bright or gloomy our days are. For years, researchers have studied the science of happiness and found that its key ingredients include a positive mental state, healthy body, strong social connections, job satisfaction, and financial well-being. However, money can only make you so happy.

KEVIN

Ah.

CRAIG

People who make $75,000 a year won't get any higher satisfaction from more money. Consider also the fact that while the US is one of the richest countries, it ranks only 14th in the World Happiness Report. So there are aspects of that that I actually agree with.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But I'm sorry. If you tell me that I won't be happier making $150,000 versus $75,000, I'm gonna be exponentially happier statistically.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Statistically, not not overall, but like in general, I'm probably going to be able to experience some more level of satisfactory happiness.

KEVIN

Right. I mean, there's a really good country song about this.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

That you say money won't buy me happiness, but it'll buy me a boat. Right. And it'll buy me a truck to pull it and it'll buy me a Yeti that I can ice down with cold beer.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

That's how that song goes. It's like, Okay. I think money can buy me some happiness.

CRAIG

You know, for, for some people it can.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I think there's, I think there's a certain, I, I, I think, I think a lot of it has to do with the temperament of the person.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But, like, I mean, just that, that is such a, I, I don't know that there's any data to back that up.

KEVIN

It, it is interesting whenever you start saying things like money won't buy you happiness. But then you don't put any type of religion into the conversation.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Because, because, okay. Well, then what does?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

You know what I mean? Yeah.

CRAIG

You don't wanna— you wouldn't wanna follow that up with anything. Well, money won't buy you. Okay. What, what does?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

What is it that— okay. So, like, people that make less than 75 and are still happy, what do we know about them to be true? Or people that make more than that. Which is a lot more money.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Or people that make more than that and you're yet still happy.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

I mean, and so, like, what are the— what are the commonalities between those people? You know, and, like, so, like, this is, you know, again, generalities don't really tend to make people satisfied with the answer.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

The other thing that I think is interesting is one that so, like, 4 of the top 5 cities are from California.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yet.

KEVIN

Right?

CRAIG

Between April of 2020 and January of 2022, more than 352,000 people have evacuated the state of California.

KEVIN

Oh, my goodness.

CRAIG

That's January of 2022.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

We're now in September of 2022, and we're going to be getting updated numbers as to how many more people have left. And I don't know about you, but I continue to see Oh, yeah. New residents here from California.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

And so I can, like, I can imagine that people don't, you know, people don't leave a place because they're so happy.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Now, to be fair, San Francisco is a big area.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is.

CRAIG

Los Angeles is a big area. San Diego is a big area.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

There's, there's several big cities in Los Angeles and, you know, 300,000.

KEVIN

In California.

CRAIG

I'm sorry, California. 352,000 is not a massive amount of people to California in general. I mean, to the state of Rhode Island.

KEVIN

Well, that's probably more than they have.

CRAIG

It's a lot of people.

KEVIN

A lot of people. I don't know. Providence is bigger than that.

CRAIG

But to have that many people leave, that's a lot of people. And when I searched how many people have left California in 2022, numerous articles. Like, this, this is a phenomenon that people are recognizing. And so, like, I'm sorry, like, you, you can, you can throw the data at me all you want, right? These are not happy places.

KEVIN

It does not mean that I agree with the data. And, like, when you look at the top 20 here, 11 of them are in California. Yeah, give me a break, right?

CRAIG

I mean, if they're so happy, why aren't they staying, right?

KEVIN

It's a great question. And why are they coming to Texas?

CRAIG

Well, not just Texas.

KEVIN

A lot of them are going to Florida.

CRAIG

It's Texas, Virginia, Washington, Florida.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So which— Washington's a weird one, but it's close.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it's because they don't want to be in Oregon.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Because Portland's there. And that place is nuts.

KEVIN

Yeah. Just ask our friend. Just ask him.

CRAIG

So, which he needs, he needs to just come on down to Texas.

KEVIN

Yeah, absolutely. It would actually make—

CRAIG

Eric G, come to Texas. We got a studio ready for you.

KEVIN

We do. And it would make your life so much easier because you wouldn't have to worry about all these weird regulations. In fact, we don't have any here.

CRAIG

The taxes are better. Yeah, yeah. Your beard would be more accepted.

KEVIN

That's true.

CRAIG

And, and respected.

KEVIN

And yes, that's true. And you can have non-natural gas appliances in your house.

CRAIG

That— for that alone.

KEVIN

Yeah, for that alone.

CRAIG

It's just Civil War round 2. Yeah, let's just go.

KEVIN

Yeah. No, or no, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they have to get rid of natural gas. That's what I mean to say. They got to get rid of natural gas, go all electric. Yeah. That's what I meant to say.

CRAIG

So that they can turn it off whenever they want.

KEVIN

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Uh, crazy stuff. Which, that's the thing.

CRAIG

I mean, like, have you, have you heard all the stuff that's been going on in California lately?

KEVIN

Well, about— yeah, about the fact that they were like, first of all, let's, let's recap and go to the place where they said that basically they're going to outlaw the sale of anything other than electric vehicles.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

By the year, what is it, 2030?

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Something like that? Something like that. And then, and then because of all of the power outages and things that are happening in California over the last few weeks, they've told people, stop charging your electric cars because you're pulling on the power grid.

CRAIG

Yep. That's the thing.

KEVIN

The irony behind this is not lost on Probably anybody.

CRAIG

Yeah. And it's like, really? Like, you guys didn't, like, have a meeting about this?

KEVIN

And this is, this is what you came up with?

CRAIG

I think, I think the messaging on this may not be all that great. Yeah. Ah, let's do it anyway. Do it anyway.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

No one will notice.

KEVIN

What are they gonna do, leave? Yeah, they will. In droves, actually.

CRAIG

Yeah, they will leave.

KEVIN

Yeah, absolutely. Oh my goodness. Crazy stuff.

CRAIG

Anything else about this one, man?

KEVIN

Man, I think this about wraps it up.

CRAIG

All right.

KEVIN

All right. Well, thank you guys for downloading today's episode and listening on the interwebs. We appreciate you very, very much. If you haven't already, go ahead and click that like button and subscribe button. Go over to iTunes. It's Apple Podcasts. I say it every time, Apple Podcasts, and leave us a rating and review. That'd be very, very helpful. And, uh, as always, we're here each and every Tuesday. And until next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya!

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