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Podcast Episode Title: The Homeowner Show - Community, Connections, and Expert Advice

Episode Description:

Join us for a lively episode of The Homeowner Show, packed with valuable insights and community connections! Andrew Brockenbush guest hosts, guiding us through discussions with local experts in plumbing, caregiving, electrical services, bookkeeping, and real estate. Plus, hear from the pillars of "The Net," a local networking group focused on community service and collaboration. From repiping your home to understanding the real estate market and automating your business, we've got you covered. And don't miss the fun – karaoke and rubber chickens included!

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KEVIN

It's the Homeowner Show. We're live here at Two Tones in The Woodlands. So glad— oh, Marion's walking in front of the camera. That's fine. Guys, we're so happy you could join us for this live episode. We got a special guest host, Andrew Brockenbush.

Andrew Brackenbush

What's up?

KEVIN

We're gonna have a good time tonight. A lot of fun guests. But if you're DIY or looking higher, we're here to bring you the best information. Get this thing rolling. We're gonna have a good time tonight. We got our first guest up. Why don't you let everybody know who you are and what you're doing here.

Alicia Fisher

Hello, friends. I'm Alicia Fisher with Fisher Family Plumbing, but I'm not here to talk about plumbing today. I'm going to leave that to Laura later. I am here to talk about the NET events.

KEVIN

Ooh, yeah, we got some fun stuff coming up. Let's go. Other than the fun activities that we have going on tonight.

Alicia Fisher

Of course, there's tonight, which if you're not here, you're missing out. It's always a great time over at Two Tones, but we have a lot of new stuff going on too. So actually, Marianne, who hopped in front of the camera earlier, is working on a book club. So that's fun. It's— we're gonna start with that. It's gonna be a little bit of self-development, you know, kind of stuff, business development, but fun.

KEVIN

Yeah, hopefully.

Alicia Fisher

Okay, so the first one of that is gonna be September at Serenity Sips.

KEVIN

So, okay, that's a coffee shop, right?

It is.

Alicia Fisher

Okay, my very favorite coffee shop. I was there twice today. Oh, so yeah, I— when I left the second time, they're like, okay, see you in an hour, right? Yeah, I told them they should just make me— give me a room with a cot and pay me rent, charge me You're not a little jittery? I mean—

John Wagner

No.

KEVIN

No?

Alicia Fisher

I have 2 babies. I'm tired all the time. I need all the caffeine I can get.

KEVIN

She needs more caffeine.

Alicia Fisher

Yes.

KEVIN

I'm just even right now.

Alicia Fisher

I'm halfway alive, and that's kind of where it stays. It's fine.

KEVIN

This is fine.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay.

KEVIN

Any other big events we got coming up that we want to make sure and—

Alicia Fisher

So, actually, so I didn't mention, she worked very hard on the name for this book club, and it's called the Balanced Bookmark. So I did want to say that, or she'll pinch me later.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay.

KEVIN

She wants that clip. That's what she wants. That's what she wants.

Alicia Fisher

Promo, baby. But because a balanced bookshelf is a balanced life. At least that's what, that's what Marianne says. So I'm inclined to believe her. I like it, you know?

Hillary Bailey

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

And then up next, actually all of September, all of our teams will be having their visitors days. So anyone that's looking to join a NET group needs to get out there and visit, see which one works best with their schedule and the location and hit up visitors day. We all have some pretty fun stuff planned. At least I know my team does. I don't know about anyone else, but—

KEVIN

Oh, um, it's my birthday on our Visitors Day, so it's all about me.

Okay.

Alicia Fisher

Party time. I'm gonna have to make that one, I think. Yeah.

KEVIN

It's Western-themed, in case anybody was wondering.

Alicia Fisher

That's appropriate.

KEVIN

Yeah, I think so.

Andrew Brackenbush

Can you share your theme? Or is it like top secret right now?

Alicia Fisher

You know what, I think I'll— they talked about keeping it secret, but I think I'll spill the beans. Okay, for the live, man. It's not bean-themed.

Andrew Brackenbush

Not bean-themed.

Alicia Fisher

Nah, I might change it.

KEVIN

Okay.

Alicia Fisher

No, uh, it's actually, um, like Mario Party. Level up, because leveling up is all what the Net's about. So we're taking it literally with video games. And yeah, so it's gonna be fun.

KEVIN

Are there gonna be actual video games?

Alicia Fisher

I'm not telling.

KEVIN

Okay.

Alicia Fisher

There will be fun to be had.

Andrew Brackenbush

You'll have to be there to find out.

KEVIN

Yes, you do.

Alicia Fisher

Come see us.

All right.

Alicia Fisher

So all the visitors days, and everyone can register for all of our events on our Facebook and Eventbrite. So everything's on there, the time, location, all the details that you need to have. And on the Net website, you can see what seats are filled in these teams so you know which one might be a good fit for you.

KEVIN

Yeah. I was shocked, especially at our events, how many people use Eventbrite. I didn't even know it was a thing. And apparently people use it.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah. No, we had a visitor at our team last week that found us from Eventbrite. We didn't invite them. They just found us in the wild.

KEVIN

I know, it's like a thing. I don't know where that kind of crept into the social consciousness.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, all of a sudden it's a thing.

KEVIN

It is. People are using it to actually go find things to do. Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

Which—

Alicia Fisher

I haven't really used it like that. I know a lot of people that do. Yeah.

John Wagner

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

So I have a few times, like when I'm truly like, what are we doing this weekend? You know, like maybe I want to get out and like network and meet more people in the business. And I'm like, okay, what's going on in the community? What's going on in town? And so we even hosted our events and we put them on Eventbrite and same kind of scenario, found random people showing up and it's like, this is cool. Like I would have never reached those people within my own circle.

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

I think it's mainly people that aren't on social media that are using Eventbrite. But I did—

That makes sense.

Alicia Fisher

I did go sleuthing a little I was like, okay, so if people are using it, that means there's events on there I don't know about. So let's go look. So I did type in networking and there's a bunch of stuff on there.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

Alicia Fisher

But the best ones are the net ones.

KEVIN

Yes, absolutely.

Alicia Fisher

Obviously.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm a noob and I know that.

Alicia Fisher

Even the noobs know, guys.

Exactly.

KEVIN

All right, so before we let you go, I want to know, is— does— do you have anything else? Sorry.

Alicia Fisher

I do. I'm sorry. I didn't get through all of it. So also we're doing a really fun Halloween costume party called Wicked Good Networking.

KEVIN

Is that going to be here?

Alicia Fisher

No, it's actually going to be at Thistle. Oh, that's right.

KEVIN

It's going to be at Thistle.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah. Yep. So that's on October 23rd. So I love an excuse to wear a costume and be weirder than normal.

KEVIN

So is that open to the public or is that members?

Alicia Fisher

That's open to the public.

John Wagner

Nice.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's just like this event.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, just like this event.

KEVIN

For everybody.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, we want more. We want people to come see our weird and know that they can be weird with us, you know? And then I would— I cannot forget to talk about 200 Businesses That Care.

KEVIN

100%. So 200%.

Alicia Fisher

200%.

KEVIN

Absolutely.

Alicia Fisher

We are— it's our annual nonprofit event, and it's raising money for 4 different local charities that specifically help Montgomery County. So it's giving back to the community that gives to our businesses. It's only $100 for each business to, you know, give back. They come out, tons of networking to be had. It's going to be on November 4th at Sawyer.

Chris Halliburton

Wow.

Alicia Fisher

So—

KEVIN

That's a no-brainer. Keep people listening. $100 for your business, one, gets your name out there, right? Like, not that's the reason you're doing it, but it does do that. Gets you 2 tickets, and I think each ticket has 2 drink tickets.

Alicia Fisher

That's right. So you get entry for 2 people, 2 drink tickets, tons of networking, you know, you get to meet a lot of people. Yeah. And people pay more than that to network all the time, but it's going to a good cause. So you're gonna actually get to talk to each of these 4 charities, see which one is your favorite, and you vote for your favorite. So the one that resonates most with you, you vote for, and first place is gonna take home $10,000.

Yep.

Alicia Fisher

So, but each of them is going home with a big old check, so don't worry, no one's getting left behind.

KEVIN

I think it's $10,000, $5,000, $3,000, $2,000.

Alicia Fisher

Numbers.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

I just know the big one.

KEVIN

So I mean, even if you come in last, you're getting 2 grand.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, I mean, that's plus a fun night and awareness for the nonprofit. So we will be announcing the nonprofits at the end of the month, so we'll be finding those out soon.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's also a good opportunity to find a place to volunteer. Like, if you're looking for something to like actually like participate in, these are ones that we vetted in 3 the net, and like it's a good place to get plugged in and actually make a difference in the community.

Yeah.

KEVIN

So, and I know last year they picked up a lot of volunteers. So, and like, not only that, I mean, like, it's not like, you know, if you meet these nonprofits, like, that's not your only interaction. You can like give to them. They're fine with that. You can— we had several people, because they met the nonprofits that night last year, were like, hey, I just want to write them a check for $1,000. It's like, cool, go do that.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, they don't get mad at that. No. So no, there's lots of opportunity for that night. So I'm really excited for it.

Andrew Brackenbush

How do we get involved with that again?

Alicia Fisher

The website is 200businessesthatcare.com. Very straightforward.

KEVIN

Yep.

Alicia Fisher

But you can also go find all the information on the Nets Facebook page. It's also on Eventbrite. So, okay, yeah, real easy to go to. And yeah, it's easy to buy the ticket, just $100, and you get a lot out of it and you're giving back.

KEVIN

So cool.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah.

KEVIN

All right. So before we let you go, I want to know if there's a name for the dragon on your arm. Oh, does he have a name or does she have a name? I don't want to misgender your arm dragon.

Alicia Fisher

Non-binary. No, uh, he doesn't have a name. Okay, so I've actually asked my kids if they want to name him and they change it every time. So like, I'm gonna let them finally solidify on one and then—

KEVIN

You're gonna let your kids name it?

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, absolutely.

KEVIN

It's a dangerous game, my friend.

Alicia Fisher

It's not getting written down, it's fine. And they change it every other day, so I don't remember what they named it the last time. I'm gonna go home and ask them now.

KEVIN

What's the latest name?

Alicia Fisher

I wish I knew.

KEVIN

You don't know?

Alicia Fisher

No, I don't remember. Look, sticky notes, man. I have to write things down.

KEVIN

So next time put it What was the name of the one in the smog?

Alicia Fisher

Oh yeah, yeah, that's The Hobbit. Yeah, Lord of the Rings.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's what it looks like because there's like a mountain right below it. You kind of got a Hobbit thing going on.

Alicia Fisher

It's kind of like a bookish thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay. That could be on theme.

Alicia Fisher

Fantasy reader.

KEVIN

Have you ever read The Hobbit?

Alicia Fisher

I haven't.

KEVIN

You haven't?

Alicia Fisher

I know, I'm garbage.

KEVIN

At least you're honest. You didn't like lie to us.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, but I am going to branch out, do a little self-help and do the Balance Bookmark.

KEVIN

Do you know what the first book is in the Balance Book Club?

Alicia Fisher

Yes, she did write that down because I do forget things, as I said. The Power of Engagement.

KEVIN

Power of Engagement. Any idea what that one's about?

Alicia Fisher

The Power of Engagement? Not yet. So September 10th, I've got a couple. I'm a very fast reader and it's also on Audible, which is what I need to do because I don't have a lot of free time. So when I'm driving, washing dishes, stuff like that, that's when I listen to my books. Yeah.

KEVIN

I was listening I listened to one today and I realized the value— listened to one today and I realized the value of production on audio— value of production on audiobook.

Alicia Fisher

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

Like I was— oh yeah, like I was— it was a subject that I'm pretty familiar with. It's about business and— but it was from a biblical perspective. And but like this lady who was reading the book kept mispronouncing books of the Bible and it was really— pronouncing books of the Bible and it was really irritating.

Oh, that's not cool.

Stephanie Ramirez

And it was one, she wasn't irritating.

Andrew Brackenbush

Oh, that's not cool.

KEVIN

And it was like, one, she wasn't the author. And I think if you're the author, you know, and—

You should read your book.

KEVIN

You're good. Go ahead. Come on. Just, you know, just, you know, people see you.

Alicia Fisher

She's famous now.

KEVIN

People see you.

Alicia Fisher

She's famous now.

KEVIN

But like, I feel like the author— but like, I feel like the author should read the book because they know the tone, they know the inflection, you know, like it's not going to get misrepresented if they read it.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

For books like that, I think—

KEVIN

Misrepresented if they read it.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

Alicia Fisher

For books like that, I think for sure. But so like I said, I do a lot of fantasy books and there's a lot of them. It's like you've got a male and a female, like you've got a male and a female character. And so it's kind of like listening to a movie. Male character. And so it's kind of like listening to a movie on some of them.

KEVIN

Well, yeah, if they're doing like— well, yeah, if they're doing like the voices and all that kind of stuff.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool.

KEVIN

It's unforgivable.

Alicia Fisher

She's grounded.

KEVIN

We need a cone.

Alicia Fisher

Cone of shame.

KEVIN

Mary is just standing right in front of it.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, she's doing it too.

KEVIN

That's amazing. So, all right, who's next?

Andrew Brackenbush

Thank you so much.

Alicia Fisher

Oh, it's Laura?

KEVIN

So you got some time.

Chris Halliburton

Haha.

Alicia Fisher

Sweet. I'm gonna talk mess the whole time.

KEVIN

Talk mess?

Hillary Bailey

No.

KEVIN

What you got?

Alicia Fisher

That's okay, I'm not.

Andrew Brackenbush

Okay, so since I'm a noob in the room, why don't you give me like the quick rundown of Net?

KEVIN

Well, okay, we have a couple minutes. I didn't get a chance to introduce you.

Andrew Brackenbush

I mean, you got to.

KEVIN

You want to tell the backstory or just want to talk about—

Andrew Brackenbush

I guess to talk about myself.

KEVIN

No, like you're here, people want to know who you are.

Chris Halliburton

Yes.

Andrew Brackenbush

So nice to meet you. We've met earlier.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

And to the people watching, my name is Andrew Brackenbush. Me and Craig have actually known each other for quite a long time through a lot of different circles.

KEVIN

Dude, were you like 18 when I met you?

Andrew Brackenbush

Probably so.

KEVIN

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

My first ever company was a recording studio out in Tomball, and so that was my first ever business. Since then, I opened up a marketing firm, and we're a full-service agency that supports a lot of different businesses in the area. But I also host, I guess, a producer for Marcus Luttrell's Team Never Quit podcast, and I'm just out here having a good time.

And Craig invited me to come co-host, and I said absolutely.

Alicia Fisher

Absolutely. That's awesome.

KEVIN

Yeah, I knew he knew what he was doing.

Alicia Fisher

Glad to have you.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, yeah, good to meet you.

Alicia Fisher

It's nice to meet you too. I'm gonna hand it over to Laura.

Andrew Brackenbush

Sweet, sounds good.

Alicia Fisher

Come on, y'all tell her how nice it was.

KEVIN

Alicia, could you help me out?

Alicia Fisher

Do what?

KEVIN

Could you help me out? Yes. Okay, I have it.

Andrew Brackenbush

He needs more water.

KEVIN

They knew who I am. Come on, Laura.

Andrew Brackenbush

How's it going?

It's going. I'm so sorry about the camera. I literally just— I knew it was there and just—

KEVIN

No, you're good.

I got yelled at the other night at dinner at Capitol Grill by an adjoining table. She said I had no social awareness because I talk loud, and I was like, sorry, what's social awareness? And that was an example.

KEVIN

So here I am. How have you been, my friend?

Oh man, uh, great. Yeah, great in school.

KEVIN

So is that like a celebration for you, or is it— You know, we—

so we found out, we, you know, Zach and I, when we got married, we just leased a house and we loved it so much, the area so much, that, um, we stayed there for 3 years. We walked our kids to school.

KEVIN

Oh, that's fantastic.

And we planned on staying for another 3 years until Jack, you know, graduated out of it. And, um, we gotta an email in March, hey, I'm gonna sell the house. And I was like, oh God, no. But, um, you know, we've been preparing and, and, and we were, we were good, in a good spot. And we found a diamond in the rough in, in Porter, 6 minutes from our old house. So I was so close to my ex-husband and my kids' dad. So because we co-parent like champions, like, okay, we're family. Yeah. I told Zach when we started dating, I was like, hey, So this is gonna seem weird, but you know, my ex-husband is— he's part of this family. He is in this family, so just deal with it. And he was

cool. They've been buddies ever since, so it's great. But yeah, we found a house that we had a pool, which saved the summer.

Alicia Fisher

Heck yeah.

It was amazing because when the kids are home with me, I'm home trying to work every day, and I'm like, hi, go outside. And now I don't have to worry about them having a heat stroke. I just kind of have to keep an eye, make sure they don't drown. But they're great. They're great swimmers. Everything's good as long as they don't beat them— beat each other to death with water guns.

John Wagner

They're fine.

KEVIN

Well, so here's the Here's a question for you, 'cause I know you guys are a plumbing company and you have a pool now.

Yes.

KEVIN

Are pools something you guys can work on?

So we can't— we can, um, the, the plumbing systems for pool, like the actual pool pumps and stuff like that, um, you— there are crews that specialize in that.

KEVIN

Sure.

The plumbing to and from, like, we do a lot, we've done ours, not to the pumps themselves again.

KEVIN

Yeah, like all the PVC stuff. Yeah, but like, yeah, like all the PVC stuff.

Yeah, but like the, the other plumbing drains and the, the other plumbing drains and stuff around the pool. We've done stuff around the pool we've done service for.

KEVIN

I imagine if they have like, like a natural gas heater or something—

Service for.

KEVIN

I imagine if they have like, like a natural gas heater or something like that, they, they need you guys to—

Right. Yeah, we do the gas lines for that. All, you know, gas lines are— I mean, we, we do gas lines in our sleep, so it's kind of one of our specialties.

KEVIN

Um, it looked like you— I've been seeing some of your ads It looks like you guys are doing a bunch of those, like generators and stuff like that.

You know, generators have really slowed down. Oh really? Oh yeah, yeah. Um, you know, last year we had a hurricane in the very first week of July, right? You know, Beryl came through and ruined my son's birthday party. He didn't get to have one. And, uh, and then, but we were, we were doing, uh, quick connects and gas lines probably 3 or 4 days, probably 3 or 4 a day for a while. Oh wow. Um, but you know, I think a lot of people got prepared for a while.

Stephanie Ramirez

Oh wow.

But you know, I think a lot of people got prepared last year in the area, last year in the area, and they weren't gonna deal with that again. And we haven't had a hurricane. It always takes an emergency. It always takes the emergency to say, okay, never again, I'm never doing this again. And that— and then the sales pick up. But I think people got really prepared last year, and we haven't had a lot of severe weather. Actually, I think this summer's been one of the mildest summers we've had in a very, very long time.

Andrew Brackenbush

A lot of rain, but not—

June, yeah, it was It rained like 30 inches in June. I know, it was great.

KEVIN

I mean, it kept it, it kept it very mild, kept it the temperatures. And then like one, as soon as the rain stopped, it was like, hey, just a reminder, summer's still here. Yeah, we're gonna like—

hey, like, don't forget about me, I'll, I'll make you pay for it. But no, it was one of the first times I've had a really green lawn in June and July in a long time. It was, it was great.

KEVIN

Without running the sprinklers every day.

Yeah, yeah, we, uh, but yeah, no, um, something cool. We, Zach and I, have been working on this for a while and we just had to find the right partners for it. But we, we have solidified our team for our white glove repipe and we just completed our first white glove repipe.

KEVIN

What do you mean by that?

Yeah, so homes with galvanized lines, they become brittle. You start getting a leak here, a leak here. Well, one of our homes had a leak and we just sat her down and said, listen, like, we will keep, we will keep coming out here and and patch and patch and patch, but can we please give you an estimate to do this? So a repipe, essentially it means you're, you're replumbing the entire house. Those plumbing lines, we have to cut sheetrock holes everywhere.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

Everywhere. So homes will end up with anywhere from 20, 25 to 50 sheetrock cuts in the house. So we have a crew now. We will provide a regular repipe estimate where you can go and get your sheetrock repair done yourself. and the repainting, that's a lot of fun. Yeah. Um, or for—

Hillary Bailey

it's—

I'm not gonna— I can't remember the exact number, and Zach will kick me because he's like the— he's, he's like the super regimented guy with numbers. And, um, but for, for— gosh, I want to say like $2,500 more. Do not quote me on that public, but like a very—

KEVIN

In that neighborhood. Yeah.

If you're talking We're talking about 50 sheetrock patch holes and painting every wall up to 6 colors for $2,500.

Stephanie Ramirez

It's—

and you don't— and on top of that, after we're done with that, we send it— we send in a cleaning crew to come and vacuum and sweep, mop, dust, and wipe everything down. So the house will look better than before we got there. You got a fresh coat of paint on every wall that we touched.

Alicia Fisher

Uh-huh.

we guarantee the color match and everything. And I got her message back today and said, your sheetrock guys left and I can't even see where y'all cut. Like, the texture is perfect, everything's great. So it was a massive success and we're really looking forward to that, being able to brand that and get that out there.

KEVIN

Are those PEX jobs? Are you repiping with PEX?

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Copper's not bad.

KEVIN

I mean, it's, it's a lot more work.

It's a lot more work. Yeah, you're having to do a lot of soldering and stuff. I'm not a licensed plumber, so I'm talking plumbing by proxy, but yeah, it's a lot of soldering and it's more expensive. PEX is really— and PEX is flexible, so with the extreme weather, you know, the drops and the freezes that we've been getting more consistently, you really don't have to worry too much about that because it can expand, I think, 2 to 3 times and not, not bust.

KEVIN

Yeah, I was going to say, from what I understand, it's a lot more durable.

Oh yeah, yeah, it's, it's meant to last. Uh, galvanized homes— I'm an insurance agent, right? Right. So be— I'm mad at him. He made fun of a massive buck I showed him at my deer camera, or my feeder camera.

KEVIN

He does that.

He was like, don't pay attention. He was like, oh, that's cute. And I was like, listen, anyways, don't talk to me about hunting. I was going to ask him to show you the one he shot last.

KEVIN

That's the—

oh, was it— was it a Bambi?

KEVIN

No, but like, that's the thing is he just dumps on everybody else's deal.

And then, you know what, I usually can take it, like, I can, especially from Brian Richardson. I know he's just gonna be sarcastic, but I don't know, it hit me the wrong way.

Hillary Bailey

It just did.

I was like, how dare you?

KEVIN

I was excited about that one.

This is a monster and he's coming to my feeder. Dare you put that in my head.

KEVIN

When we get done with the show, because I know that you're interested, ask me about my neighbor's buck. It is the gnarliest thing you've ever seen in your life.

Oh my gosh.

KEVIN

I'm not even kidding. Like, you won't— like, I, I can't like hype it up enough to tell you how gnarly this buck is.

You're gonna have to show Zach because he— his dream buck is he wants to find the gnarliest. Like, I've never seen that before in my— I'm talking like, oh yeah, he wants something crazy. Like, and that's what he wants to put on the wall next to my beautiful symmetrical 8 and 10 and 11 points that I've got up. Like, he wants to put some, some, you know.

KEVIN

Well, here's the crazy thing I'll tell you about this one is the story, at least the story on this one, and like, this is like fishing stories, so who knows, but he was telling me he shot him and then the buck did a death dive into a pond. And so he had to go out on a bucket and like hook him and hoist him up out of the water to even get him because he, like, as soon as he shot him, he just—

Was it into a pond?

John Wagner

Yes.

Oh my God, how long was the buck in there? Like 30 minutes. I'm so— okay, so I love the river, the ocean. I know the ocean's, especially Galveston's, tainted with all sorts of fun stuff, but there's just— lake water and pond water gross me out. And I, I, you know, I, I finally narrowed it down. My daughter's in science and they're doing labs now in 5th grade. I think it was all the amoeba, the— all the water droplet things. Like, hey, go get some water out of your backyard and bring it to class and we're gonna look at And I was like, this is what's in the water? And I got some out of a pond in our

neighborhood when I was little, and there was like amoebas everywhere. And I was like, those are going in my ears, they're getting in my brain. And it freaked me out. And ever since then, when I go to the lake, I'm just— I will, I will get in the water and tube and stuff, but I'm just— afterwards I feel like I'm gonna die of a flesh-eating amoeba in my head every time. Take me to Galveston, no problem.

KEVIN

What about the ocean? You fine with the ocean?

Oh yeah, like I I grew up saltwater fishing, so I mean, I grew up in Alvin, Texas.

KEVIN

Because the ocean is way more dangerous than any pond.

Way worse. Yeah, no, it's— and we're next to all the chemical plants. I mean, Freeport, you can't even, can't even drink the tap water down there. Not that any of us really— probably all should be drinking any of the tap water, but—

Andrew Brackenbush

Not worried about that water.

I mean, that one, you drink tap water and you grow a third eye in a little while. So, but yeah, no, I am more— I will, I will drink water in Freeport before I will jump into a pond or a lake.

Alicia Fisher

It just—

I don't know why.

John Wagner

It's weird.

All right, well, Marion's fixing chase you off.

KEVIN

What do you want everybody to know before she kicks you out of here?

You know, we're here if you need us. Small, big, doesn't matter. If you're in a million-dollar home, $100,000 house, we have set pricing for everything, and we're just here to take care of our community and teach them how to take care of themselves too and prevent stuff. And yeah, we're here to help. Cool.

KEVIN

Got a phone number, email?

Fisher Family Plumbing, you can reach us at 832-844-7200. You can email Zachary, myself, Laura, or office@fisherfamilyplumbing.com. You'll reach any of us that way. Um, or yeah, just, uh, flag us down in the neighborhood.

KEVIN

Sweet.

Good. Thanks, guys.

KEVIN

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah, see you later.

KEVIN

Appreciate you sitting down.

Sorry for walking in front of your camera. I can't promise it won't happen again.

KEVIN

If you do, Mary Ann will do something to you. I don't know what. Come on, come on down. Howdy, howdy.

Andrew Brackenbush

How are you?

Hillary Bailey

I'm good. How are you guys?

KEVIN

Good.

Alicia Fisher

You okay with putting—

KEVIN

you okay with putting those Okay.

Hillary Bailey

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

It'll make it easier to hear. Hear us okay?

Stephanie Ramirez

Awesome.

Alicia Fisher

Yes.

KEVIN

All right, so, uh, I can't read your name tag from here, so help us out. Who are you and what do you do?

Hillary Bailey

Uh, I am Hillary Bailey. I'm the owner of Freedom Caregivers and Companions.

KEVIN

A little bit, little bit closer.

Hillary Bailey

I am Hillary Bailey, the owner of Freedom Caregivers and Companions, and we take care of seniors in their homes.

KEVIN

Oh, awesome. Okay, so I've actually met you at a meeting before. Yes.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah, very cool what you guys do.

Hillary Bailey

Thank you. Thank you. I love it. Seniors are my jam.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, it seems like that's like a, a very expansive market right now. It is.

Hillary Bailey

It is.

KEVIN

I mean, like, we're entering into like the largest generation of elderly people that we've ever had.

Hillary Bailey

Yep.

KEVIN

So now, I mean, downstream, it's not looking so good, but—

Andrew Brackenbush

how'd you get into that space?

Hillary Bailey

Oh, so I am a physical therapist assistant and a certified dementia practitioner by trade. So I was doing physical therapy in like nursing homes and things like that. Um, and then I started doing home health, and what I saw, um, in the homes was that people need help with way more activities, and they need somebody that's going to come in and do it right, not be on their phone all the dang time.

Yeah.

KEVIN

Oh no.

Okay.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah. And I found—

KEVIN

Shots fired.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, so I just— I'm very passionate about helping people, um, with just their daily activities, right? Because Who wants— they would not— they'd rather have a shower rather than do physical therapy with me, right? Like, that's, you know, that's what they want.

Andrew Brackenbush

Quality of life is just as important.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's kind of a compliment too. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Hillary Bailey

No, no, totally, totally fine. No, you know, we're just— we have, you know, you talk about, you know, having more seniors than ever before. Well, you know, you have us people people, you know, between the age of, you know, like 45 and 65, we're the sandwich generation. We're trying to take care of our parents, we're trying to take care of our kids, and trying to juggle both is— it's impossible. It's absolutely impossible. So, um, I love that I get to alleviate caregiver burnout, whether that be, you know, somebody, you know, that's, you know, just a friend helping in the home. But most of the time it's the kids, you know, and somebody, somebody loses on one side, whether it be

Hillary Bailey

the family that you grew yourself or the people that grew you.

KEVIN

That's right. I mean, is, is your target client— are we talking about like assisted living facilities or like in-home care?

Hillary Bailey

Like in-home care.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay.

Hillary Bailey

We do have, um, I mean, it's wherever they live. So we do have some clients that are in assisted living facilities. And so, you know, assisted living facilities, there's different levels, right? So, and it's more expensive the more levels you go up. So a lot of times family will hire us, you know, for a couple hours a day just to keep from having to pay that extra couple thousand dollars a month, you know, when all they may need help with is a shower, right?

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

So yeah.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, So like, but like, what do you guys— I mean, like, you're talking about like coming in, giving a shower. I mean, like, what other services do you guys provide while you're there?

Hillary Bailey

So I like to tell people to think of us like a personal assistance service agency. So we, we'll come in and do anything on the person that needs help. So helping them bathe, dress, you know, brush their teeth, do all that daily stuff that, you know, we want to do to feel clean and taken care of. And then we're gonna do like light housekeeping.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay.

Hillary Bailey

Meal preparation, transportation if they want to, you know, go somewhere. Some clients we have, that's all we really do with them. We're just companions with them. So we take them to the movies or to the library or—

Oh wow.

Hillary Bailey

Wherever they want to go, right? To get them out of the house because there's a lot of seniors that live on their own that can't drive.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

And when their kids can come see them, they're trying to do all those other things like take them to the grocery store. And so what I have found is that it really helps, um, family members be family members and not caregivers. It's hard to take care of someone and keep your rightful place in the family, right? Taking care of your dad, it's hard to be a daughter if that's— if you're just mainly there to take care of them, obviously, while you're trying to take care of your family at the same time.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, and like, I want to be like as frank as I possibly can because I can imagine there's a lot of people that struggle with being frustrated with their family members that are elderly and not wanting to Yes. I imagine you guys kind of provide that buffer that allows them to kind of enjoy them again.

Alicia Fisher

We do.

Yeah?

Hillary Bailey

We do, absolutely. They will— and first of all, nobody wants their kids to tell them what to do. Sure. Yeah, so a lot of times the caregivers will come in there and we'll say the exact same thing that we want them to do, right? And they will do it gladly for us. But if your kid's trying to tell you what to do, you're kind of like, I'm the parent, like, I'm not gonna listen to what you say. Yeah, I'm older than you, I know better than you.

Chris Halliburton

A little bit of stubbornness.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I love— that's probably my favorite part is coming into the home, seeing the family dynamics might be a little altered, and then we come in for a couple of weeks and, you know, they're calling us, the daughter's calling us like, oh my gosh, thank you guys so much. You know, I'm able to come over and visit with my mom. I don't have to worry about is her laundry done? Do I need to take her here or there? You guys are just taking care of it. And it takes a weight off of them because they know their loved one's being cared for. They don't have to do it.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, my sister actually does in-home care.

KEVIN

Oh really?

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, so she was a— worked as a nurse in a nursing home for a long time.

Alicia Fisher

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

And just, she could see that the quality of care wasn't exceptional, and it was frustrating as someone who really was empathetic and cared and wanted to go the extra mile, but there's still limitations.

Hillary Bailey

Absolutely.

Andrew Brackenbush

And so she got into that, and same thing, she's like, I've got a relationship with these people.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, yep. It's the relationship that you cultivate with people in their homes is much different because you go into their space, right? So once you're there for a little while, they, you know, they learn to trust you and you get to hear the coolest stories from people. That's one of my favorite parts, is just hearing the stories about their life. It's amazing.

Stephanie Ramirez

That's great.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, it really, really is.

KEVIN

So what's one of the biggest things that people— I mean, because a lot of people listen to the show all across the country and are dealing with this issue because a lot of people have aging parents and things like that. What's one of the best things that people can do to sort of instill dignity in their parents while they still need help?

Stephanie Ramirez

Ask for help.

KEVIN

Ask them for help?

Hillary Bailey

No, ask us for help. Ask for outside help. Because what I find most of the time is that it's not that the children are upset at their parents, they're overwhelmed and they're burnt out, right? So it's not that they're upset with them, but it's just one more thing on their plate, you know, that they have to deal with. So they love them, but they don't want to, you know, have to take care of them. I mean, some of them do, and don't let me say that people don't want They want to take care of their parents, they do.

Andrew Brackenbush

But it just gets hard.

Hillary Bailey

It just gets hard, right?

Andrew Brackenbush

Especially if they have their own families.

Hillary Bailey

Yes, especially, definitely if they have their own families, that makes it 10 times harder.

Yeah, for sure.

KEVIN

So I mean, like, if someone's not in Texas, in the Houston area— where are you guys, only in Houston area?

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, so we go all the way up to Montgomery and all the way down to like the Heights and River Oaks.

Alicia Fisher

Okay.

Hillary Bailey

Humble and Kingwood.

KEVIN

So if they're not here, how do they find somebody like you?

Hillary Bailey

I would say, I mean, if you're a Google fan, great, go on Google and, you know, in-home care near me.

KEVIN

I mean, is there like a network of you guys that you, you're connected with or something like that?

Hillary Bailey

In this area, yes.

KEVIN

In this area, yes.

Hillary Bailey

But you don't— I mean, unless you've actually worked with another company, it's really hard to talk about if they're, you know, worth it.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, the quality of care.

Hillary Bailey

If their quality of care is good.

KEVIN

Yes. So, so like Google, Google reviews actually matter and they— yes, they do. They 100% matter.

Hillary Bailey

They 100% matter.

KEVIN

Don't, don't pay attention to the marketing guy. The marketer will tell you that Google reviews matter.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yes.

Hillary Bailey

They 100% matter. But I'll tell you, you know, my digital marketer, you know, the first couple that I talked to, oh, SEO, SEO, you have to get your name out on Google. No, because when people that are going on Google, they're price shopping. I will lose every time in a price war.

Andrew Brackenbush

Race to the bottom.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

I, I pay my caregiver I pay my caregivers very, very well. Most agencies pay their caregivers between $11 and $13 an hour. I start at $17.

Oh wow.

Hillary Bailey

And we go up to $22. So yes, I charge a lot more, but you know, I don't have turnover in my agency.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

So my clients get continuity of care, so they get the same caregiver, so not a different person coming in every day.

KEVIN

Yeah, so you just said that, and I know people online are gonna be asking, are you hiring?

Hillary Bailey

Actually, we are looking for someone in the Tomball area right now.

KEVIN

Okay, there you go.

We are.

KEVIN

So we're kind of in the—

Andrew Brackenbush

I might actually know somebody.

Hillary Bailey

Well, I, I'm actually— I, since I'm on here, I'll just say it. We're looking for, um, I also have a nurse on my staff cuz we actually also do RN delegation. And basically what that means is with the license that we hold with the state of Texas, we're not able to do anything that's considered medical, right? But since I have a nurse on my staff, we're able to help, you know, administer pre-dose medications, help with oxygens. If they have a PEG tube, we're able to feed them, you know, via the pegged to. So we're actually able to do a lot more than other agencies out there, which is another reason our prices is higher. But you know, you get what you pay for.

KEVIN

Yeah, 100%. I mean, so I mean, like, but if people are looking— like, if people are in the area and they're looking for you, how do they get a hold of you?

Hillary Bailey

So you can give us a call at 346-468-1000 or go on our website, which is www.freedomcaregivers.net. We have a Facebook page, a LinkedIn page, an Instagram page.

KEVIN

We're everywhere. Awesome. And are you, are you in the Breakfast Club that meets here?

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes, I am.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, I am.

I love the Breakfast Club.

KEVIN

I think that's like our newest group.

Hillary Bailey

It's one of the newest.

KEVIN

Yeah. How are you enjoying it so far?

I love it.

Hillary Bailey

Yeah, I love it. Well, it's, you know, a lot of the people that I know, so it feels like home.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

Hillary Bailey

Coming from another networking group, it feels, it feels like home.

KEVIN

They who must not be named.

Hillary Bailey

Exactly. Exactly. They must not be named.

KEVIN

Exactly.

Hillary Bailey

They don't deserve to.

KEVIN

Yeah. Awesome.

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

Well, I think, I think Marion's giving me Give me the single.

KEVIN

Thank you so much for sitting down.

Thanks, guys.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah. What do you think, man? Oh, your sister's involved in this business.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, I'm like literally gonna connect the two.

KEVIN

That's awesome.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, I mean, I know that to my sister it's like that's a really meaningful cause.

KEVIN

So we got John Wagner. Who?

Andrew Brackenbush

Come on, John Wagner. What's up, brother? We met.

John Wagner

Hey, y'all, how are we doing today?

KEVIN

Good, man. It's awesome. So let me, let me tell you a little something about John Wagner. I actually ran into him— was it like 4 months ago when you were like up on a boom lift changing out streetlights in Carlton Woods.

John Wagner

Yep. Yeah, that's right.

KEVIN

I didn't know you worked in there.

Chris Halliburton

Yes, sir.

John Wagner

I was like, hey, for a while now.

KEVIN

There's my buddy. Are you doing all the streetlights in there?

John Wagner

We do all the electric work for the HOA for Carlton Woods.

KEVIN

See, that's fantastic.

John Wagner

A couple, couple of neighborhoods, actually.

KEVIN

A couple different neighborhoods.

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay.

John Wagner

Bender's Landing is another notable one.

KEVIN

Okay.

John Wagner

Yep.

KEVIN

Dude, we need to, we need to connect about this because I need to like, like I have clients in there. but like I need more in there.

John Wagner

Okay, yeah, well make sure you're— make sure your truck is all badged up because that's how we get all our work in there is having our trucks in there.

KEVIN

Oh dude, yeah, that's how we do it.

John Wagner

Badged up.

KEVIN

Yep. So okay, so I've been seeing posts that you've been putting up. It looks like you guys are expanding.

John Wagner

Yes sir.

KEVIN

What are you guys doing? What's going on over there?

John Wagner

All right, so, uh, it's something we can—

KEVIN

well, real quick, let everybody know what you do.

John Wagner

Hey, I'm John Wagner. I own Y Electric. We're a full-service electrical contractor based out of North Houston, Montgomery County, servicing the North Houston and Montgomery County area. Yeah, we do it all, commercial and residential.

KEVIN

All right, so, and you guys are doing hookups on like generators? You got—

John Wagner

I mean, like— Absolutely. Yeah, we do generators, we do inlets for portable generators. We'll even help you secure one at a decent price. All right, uh, we'll, uh, we do a lot of, uh, lighting upgrades like in luxury homes. We do a lot of really cool like wavy or, you know, lines up the wall across the ceiling kind of stuff or Or help build fixtures sometimes out of all the antlers that your grandpa killed over the years. So I love it, kind of, kind of all over the place. But we'll also wire up an office or change out lights in an office, help with all sorts of stuff.

KEVIN

I know you've helped me out of a couple jams, so—

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes, sir.

KEVIN

Some stuff that I screwed up.

Andrew Brackenbush

Now, do you like battery installs for houses, for EVs and things like that?

John Wagner

We do, yeah. That's actually a big thing that we're doing right now. We, we have a contract with the company that we, we do a battery backup system daily with one of our crews. Wow. What do you you mean daily?

KEVIN

What does that mean?

John Wagner

Like every day of the week I've got a crew that's installing a battery backup system.

KEVIN

Oh, it's like at a different location?

John Wagner

Every day.

KEVIN

Oh wow. Wow.

Yeah.

KEVIN

What do you— okay, so like battery backup for what?

John Wagner

For the house. Yeah, for the whole house.

Alicia Fisher

Whole home.

Yep.

KEVIN

So like which ones are you seeing being installed more? Is it like a lot of Tesla? Is it like—

John Wagner

So Teslas are in there.

KEVIN

I know LG's in the mix probably.

John Wagner

Briggs Stratton actually has batteries.

KEVIN

Really?

John Wagner

Yes. Yeah, That was one to see there. That's been pretty cool. Let's see. There's a couple other things. The company we work for, I don't know that I can mention that we work for them or not.

KEVIN

I don't know how that works.

Stephanie Ramirez

I don't know.

John Wagner

So I'm not going to go that far.

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

I mean, I saw an energy provider.

John Wagner

There's some gray lines that I'm not going to attempt to cross. Let's just say that.

KEVIN

Fair enough. Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

That's pretty cool, man.

John Wagner

Yeah, it's been good.

Alicia Fisher

Nice.

KEVIN

Is this with the battery backups, is that in conjunction usually with solar, or are they just doing the battery backup?

John Wagner

It's both. Sometimes it's just battery, sometimes it's solar. And, uh, we've got different applications for if they have solar or not.

KEVIN

Yeah, because I mean, you can, you can put a battery backup on your home without having solar, correct? Yeah. Yeah.

John Wagner

Yep.

KEVIN

How long do those typically last? So if you take it down to like the basic, like I need to run my refrigerator and like my lights, so I'm—

John Wagner

that's, that's a little more— that's a little above my pay grade. We don't provide the batteries, we install them for this company. So we're installing the systems for a certain contractor that's kind of sweeping Texas with battery backups. I don't know the math on batteries.

KEVIN

And when I imagine different batteries do have different capacities.

John Wagner

Absolutely. Yeah. And they've got— we've got engineers that figure all that out, that determine what they go on there, and then they give us the ticket to install it.

KEVIN

Okay.

John Wagner

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

So doing a lot of those?

KEVIN

We're doing a lot of them. But like, those aren't cheap.

John Wagner

No, they are not. No, they are not.

KEVIN

I mean, I think entry on like a whole home battery is like $10,000.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, it's all financeable.

John Wagner

Yes, it is a massive financing game, let's be honest.

KEVIN

It is. Yes, it is.

Andrew Brackenbush

For sure.

John Wagner

It is. And then there's a lot of it where, you know, like they're, uh, they're basically installing these batteries and collecting power, and then at night when you're not using anything, they're selling it back.

Andrew Brackenbush

I just saw an electricity provider that kind of does that. It's like, hey, you buy our electricity service and our little setup fees and include this whole home battery backup.

John Wagner

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

But you know they're making their money.

John Wagner

Who is it?

Andrew Brackenbush

Probably who you're working with, but I can't remember the company's name. Yeah, we'll talk about it after the show.

John Wagner

4-letter word maybe?

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

KEVIN

Are you kidding me, guys? I got like an exclusive like right here. Like you guys are like, ah, we'll talk about it.

John Wagner

That's exactly how it works.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, I'm thinking about getting the largely controversial Cybertruck, so I might be needing you to come out and hook me up.

John Wagner

We do that. Yeah, we install EV chargers all the time. Yeah, listen, not just, not just for residential, but we also have— I could say this one, Echo Suites. Yeah, we're doing all that. They're putting battery, uh, battery EV chargers on all of their, uh, properties. And we're doing 2 on— I think they're building like 5 around town.

Andrew Brackenbush

That's pretty awesome.

John Wagner

We're installing all those.

KEVIN

What are Echo Suites?

John Wagner

It's a new hotel.

KEVIN

Okay.

John Wagner

Yep.

KEVIN

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

Okay.

John Wagner

It's a new hotel that you'll be seeing soon, I'm sure.

KEVIN

Where? Okay, like, where's, where's the newest one going up?

John Wagner

Uh, Katy.

KEVIN

Katy. Okay.

John Wagner

Yep.

KEVIN

Like right there off I-10?

John Wagner

Yep. I don't think they're up here up north yet. But yeah, right off I-10.

Is it close to the Buc-ee's?

John Wagner

Next door.

KEVIN

Oh, is it really?

John Wagner

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

Are you in the low voltage game as well or no?

John Wagner

Oh, we have partners that we subcontract for low voltage.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay.

John Wagner

Yes. So we— I can't say no because that's—

Andrew Brackenbush

You got people.

John Wagner

It's quite often that we need both on some of these projects.

Andrew Brackenbush

Especially commercial.

John Wagner

Instead of the GC dealing with 2 companies, they can deal with us because we have no problem subcontracting and helping with that process because I do understand that.

Yeah.

KEVIN

So when we say low voltage.

John Wagner

Yeah, we're talking about like internet security, automation, All that.

Andrew Brackenbush

Sometimes basic lighting for hospitals and stuff like that.

KEVIN

Yeah, but it's pretty cool.

John Wagner

Green lighting where the— yeah, it's 48-volt lighting or, you know, low-volt lighting. And we'll install everything and then we'll get them involved to do all the low voltage stuff and get it all going. And we'll partner together on the automation of it.

Andrew Brackenbush

All power over Ethernet.

KEVIN

I was gonna ask, is it PoE?

Andrew Brackenbush

All PoE. Yeah, it's really cool.

John Wagner

We did a job on a building where they— we came in, we installed the power for it. Our subcontractor came in and ran all the low volt, and this thing was basically ran— the lights would, the lights would dim whenever the sun was coming up the one, because we're like 18 stories up. So when the sun was shining in, the lights would dim on parts of the building that were getting the sun.

KEVIN

Oh wow.

John Wagner

And raising parts that weren't. Yeah, it monitors the sunlight and everything.

KEVIN

That's crazy. It's crazy what we can do with that stuff.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yep.

KEVIN

So, but I mean, you can do the same thing in somebody's house.

John Wagner

Absolutely.

KEVIN

Yeah?

John Wagner

Yes.

KEVIN

Yeah, we're doing one in Bender's Landing right now that has a lot of really cool technology Yeah?

Yep.

KEVIN

So like, what all does that entail?

John Wagner

So basically it's a bunch of access points where they could walk in a room and say, hey Alexa, or hey Siri, turn on the living room level 2, and it'll turn on a portion of lights that they want on for that moment. They could walk out, do the same thing. Yeah, in any room, inside, outside, the whole house is controlled essentially by an access point that you can use the internet.

KEVIN

So how much, how much of that is gonna be— how much of AI is gonna be coming into that now? I mean, like, are you guys experiencing that where like the automation is—

John Wagner

No, not quite yet. I'm not really seeing any AI built into it. I mean, we've discussed the idea of it where you put sensors in and you walk into a room and make gestures. Yeah, it would then understand, but that's a program that hasn't been built. I can't believe I just said that.

KEVIN

But yeah, that's something that we could do. Andrew might be able to help you with that.

John Wagner

Yeah, sounds cool.

KEVIN

He's got an AI company.

John Wagner

Yeah, I got some, I got some really good ideas.

Andrew Brackenbush

Sounds fun.

John Wagner

Yep, spilled one. There's much more where that came from.

KEVIN

All right, but I'm getting the signal from Mary Ann, so like, uh, anything else you want everybody to know? Like how to get a hold of you? Like anything, any other services you want to make sure you're doing right now?

John Wagner

Yeah, uh, yeah, so, uh, I mean really, we're, we're a turnkey full-service electrical contractor, residential and commercial. Uh, there, there's really no stopping what we can do. We do residential, commercial, big things, small things, something kind of in the works with Metro, you know. So there's really no stopping what we're doing right now.

Chris Halliburton

Okay.

John Wagner

My phone number is 281-706-0966. It's my personal cell phone.

KEVIN

There you go.

John Wagner

I don't have the office number memorized.

Andrew Brackenbush

You'll be getting calls at 2 in the morning if I don't answer texts.

KEVIN

Yeah. That's awesome.

John Wagner

Again, John Wagner with Weil Electric.

Stephanie Ramirez

I appreciate y'all having me.

Alicia Fisher

Thanks for sitting down, man.

Thanks, man. Absolutely.

KEVIN

Hey, so Alicia was supposed to help me out and she failed. Could you help me? Absolutely. Thank you.

Andrew Brackenbush

We're definitely going to talk, by the way. I got to know all these. Nice to meet you, brother.

KEVIN

Yeah, good to see you, bud.

Andrew Brackenbush

Come on down. How's it going, man?

KEVIN

It's, um, I think they're using—

Chris Halliburton

good, how's it going?

Good to see you, man.

Alicia Fisher

Whatever.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, whatever it is they have back there.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm Andrew, by the way.

Chris Halliburton

Andrew.

Andrew Brackenbush

Chris.

Alicia Fisher

Nice to meet you, Chris.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, pleasure.

KEVIN

What's going on, Chris?

Chris Halliburton

What's going on, Brian? Brian, right?

KEVIN

Craig.

Stephanie Ramirez

Craig!

KEVIN

God dang it!

Chris Halliburton

Brian Williams.

KEVIN

Craig, I knew that. No, no, no. We've met once. It's fine.

Yes.

KEVIN

Yes. I won't hold it against you.

Chris Halliburton

I think I was thinking of Brian Williams, the basketball player for Xavier, a long time ago.

KEVIN

He's way uglier than I am.

Chris Halliburton

Of course he is.

KEVIN

So, okay, so, oh dude, okay, so you got my drink. I'm a little jealous because they just went to go give me another one.

Chris Halliburton

She told me I had to have it over here.

KEVIN

You absolutely have to have it on here. Yeah, so let everybody know who you are and what you do.

Chris Halliburton

Okay, so my name is Chris Halliburton. I am with CMG Home Loans, so I am a lender. Even though CMG is a, you know, pretty big company nationwide, here in Houston we have a local feel. So we love—

KEVIN

you have a local what?

Chris Halliburton

A local feel. Local feel.

Okay.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, so, you know, when you're meeting with us, we— it's like talking to a family member. At least that's what we want to portray. So, you know, agents clients, investors, insurance people, financial advisors. We help everybody. We talk to everybody. We try to kind of cross-sell, help them build their business as well as them helping us.

KEVIN

100%. Yeah. So, I mean, like, so here's what I know is everybody, like, everybody wants to know where the rates are at right now. I know we hit a low here pretty recently, like a 2-year low. Is that right?

Chris Halliburton

It's about a 2-year low. year low, depending on how you look at it.

KEVIN

But yeah, but like, you got to have good credit, like all this kind of stuff. Like, but that's, that's the question everybody always wants to know. Where's— where are the rates at? I know you get sick of hearing it, but like, everybody wants to know.

Chris Halliburton

Hey, that's the million-dollar question. And, and when you tell people, they are kind of like, oh, they still don't know anything.

KEVIN

Yeah, no, they don't.

Stephanie Ramirez

Awesome.

Chris Halliburton

So that's why we educate them. But I'll, I'll answer the question. So the rates right now, we're probably looking in the mid to low 6s, but we're hoping the Fed, you know, makes headway a couple of times the rest of the year.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

And we can get a solid low 6 to maybe even the top 5.

KEVIN

Because I think they said they're talking about lowering it like 3 or 4 more times just in 2025.

Yeah.

KEVIN

Which, I mean, like, that's, that's a lot of moves.

Chris Halliburton

That's pretty much once a month.

KEVIN

Less than 6 months left in the year, right? I mean, like, it's, it's crazy, right?

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, we'll see if they actually do that. Um, you know, the only thing with that is everybody wants it.

KEVIN

Sure.

Chris Halliburton

But, and I probably shouldn't say this, but remember Remember, when rates get cut, competition comes out. So if you're searching and refinancing, waiting for that, don't wait for that. Do it now, especially on the purchase side, because you're going to be caught in a snowstorm.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, like, what I always try and tell people is like, yeah, you want, you want your rate cut for when you're buying your house, but like, don't come crying to mama when you put your money in the bank to save it and you're getting 2%.

Chris Halliburton

Yes. You know, it's so funny you say that. We actually have a program that can actually, you know, help people take that money that sits and they can roll it into one of our products. It's called an all-in-one. And I tell you, if they do it right with our coaching, right, you can cut that principal, you can cut that interest that you pay literally 2 to 4 times. You can cut it enough to where you can pay off the house within 7, 8 years if you just do it average.

KEVIN

Right.

Chris Halliburton

But the good thing about that is that money that you're paying down it's still liquid, so you can tap back into it as you're going through the years.

KEVIN

Okay.

Chris Halliburton

It's a beautiful place, a beautiful program.

KEVIN

I love it. Okay, so like, what are you— how are you seeing home sales going right now? Because you guys are kind of like the heartbeat of making property move. I mean, how are you seeing home— I mean, like, I know we just hit the end of summer.

John Wagner

Yeah.

KEVIN

So we're not in like the peak season, but I think it seems like things are going a little bit better than they have.

Chris Halliburton

So they're going okay now.

KEVIN

They're going what now?

Chris Halliburton

They're going okay.

Okay, okay.

Chris Halliburton

So the funny thing about it though is the summertime is typically the hot market.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

So it was just a lukewarm market, but it's one of those things where, you know, we get through it. I think again everybody's waiting for that rate cut.

KEVIN

Yeah, they're just hoping it'll happen.

Chris Halliburton

They're hoping it'll happen, and it's just like, I get it, don't wait, buy now, because when that cut comes, you could be on the other end of something else happening.

KEVIN

Exactly.

Andrew Brackenbush

Spend more on that same house that you thought you wanted, now you're fighting And a lot of the research that we've been—

KEVIN

because this is, you know, with the topic of our show, it's something we follow a lot, you know. And we have access to like all the research that's coming out of A&M now. Like, I don't know if you know that they have like the whole home research center.

Chris Halliburton

Oh wow.

KEVIN

At A&M now. And so they're putting out reports almost weekly about the home markets like across the nation. And one of the things, one of the trends that we've been seeing is because so many people got in at like 2% and 3%, right? And then COVID came, and then they needed to move for work. And they're like, I don't want to sell my house because I'm sitting at such a pretty interest rate, and I'm looking at buying, I'm gonna have to pay 7% to 8%.

Chris Halliburton

Right.

KEVIN

Shoot, I'll keep it, put it as a rental property, and then just go buy another one.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

KEVIN

And so many people have done that now. And so I think that's part of why we have— we've seen such a demand for homes. And then, you know, compound that with like we had so many builders that just got behind the 8-ball and couldn't produce like they needed to.

Andrew Brackenbush

Everything was going up at the same time, you know.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, everything.

KEVIN

Well, and, and like what we've seen is, you know, I mean, like in my regular business and then through the show, like builders are starting to focus on projects that are lower-income housing but are outside. Like specifically here in Texas, I got in a lot of trouble for this statement, by the way. They're, they're building in where they have less regulations.

Alicia Fisher

Oh.

KEVIN

But like people are willing to live that's just a little bit outside of the commute time. And because it's cheaper housing, and it's cheaper housing because here's the statement that got me in trouble, is not every county requires a pretreat. And so they're able to save a lot of money on the build time because they're not having to shut down for guys like me to come in and treat for termites. And, and they're not having to pass that cost on to the consumer. So smaller homes, less build time, less, you know, all those things compound into a more affordable home.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

KEVIN

And so those are the projects that they seem to be focusing on, um, you know. So we, we have several like communities that we know that are coming up like in Hockley, you know. Yes, you know.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, right.

KEVIN

But like people are looking at it going, I'll drive 45 minutes to work.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know, and it's like you can't blame them because they're, they're paying less of a premium because there's less regulations out there.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, and we've noticed that shift as well, moving obviously away from the city, going, you know, Katy, even further out. I'm a Kentucky boy, so—

John Wagner

Oh, come on.

Chris Halliburton

I don't, I don't really go too far out.

KEVIN

Wait, wait, wait, wait, what part of Kentucky?

Chris Halliburton

Believe it or not, I'm from Lexington.

KEVIN

Lexington?

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes. Okay.

Chris Halliburton

But I, I am a Louisville Cardinal.

Okay.

Chris Halliburton

So that kind of gets that— if we were back in Lexington, the music would stop right now.

KEVIN

So my wife was born there.

Chris Halliburton

Okay.

KEVIN

Just last year we went to Mammoth Cave. Oh yeah, yeah, dude.

Alicia Fisher

Man, incredible.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, dude. Have you been there?

Chris Halliburton

I haven't been to Mammoth Cave, at least I haven't as an adult. I may have been when I was younger, I just don't remember it.

KEVIN

But yeah, that was the whole reason we went, was like my wife's nostalgia. She was like, we gotta go see this. And it, like, to her credit, it was incredible.

Chris Halliburton

Kentucky has some nice lands. Oh my God, a lot of nice, nice lands. And even the bluegrass that's not really blue.

KEVIN

Blue. Yeah, I need to look into that. I need to know why it is— why it's called that, why it's called bluegrass.

Chris Halliburton

I've, I've never looked into it personally. Yeah, it's green, but let's just indulge them to make them feel better.

Andrew Brackenbush

That'll be a ChatGPT conversation for later.

KEVIN

Put it— put in the prompts and see what comes out.

Chris Halliburton

There you go. Oh, I do want to mention something again. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned people having 2% and 3%.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

And then going to buy other houses. I don't mean to hog up the time with this.

KEVIN

No, no, no, we haven't got the signal yet.

Alicia Fisher

Come on.

Chris Halliburton

But with this program, that 2% and 3% rate that people are chasing, 5%, 6%, whatever. Yeah, that doesn't matter with this program because again, you're hitting the principal balance first. You're paying that interest. So I say to people, who are like so nervous about giving up that 2 or 3%. Yes, turn that house into a rental. Absolutely. Get as much money as you can. But come talk to me about this program because you'll see time, uh, time is a huge factor. And of course, you know, how you pay that principal balance is the biggest factor. So I'm trying to plug this thing, you know, and I think it's great. I think it's great. So anyway.

KEVIN

Yeah, I, I've been hearing of different like creative finance options for homes. I was talking to a guy the other day. He's a real estate agent. He was working on a program where, you know, the owner can actually kind of in a sense become the lender. You know, it's like lease-to-own. Seller finance.

John Wagner

Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, like, but like it's a different like sort of contractual obligation where like if you stay in the house for 5 years, then you have the option to pour your lease money back into like a down payment kind of a thing. And then you basically use the equity that they built up in the house to be the down payment. So, which, I mean, like, that's a booger that I think a lot of people try and avoid is, you know, because there's the mortgage insurance.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, that's a booger.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, it's on there.

Andrew Brackenbush

And then you add all the other random stuff—

John Wagner

PIDs, MUDs.

Chris Halliburton

It's like, got a lot of stuff that adds up.

Sweet.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, want to give us a plug? What you're doing, how we can find you, support you?

Chris Halliburton

Absolutely. So I am actually here local in Spring. My office is here local. Let's see, I don't even know what to say. You caught me off guard on that.

Andrew Brackenbush

Website, phone number?

Chris Halliburton

Yeah, so my website is kind of specific. It's TXmortgagelending.com. And my social media handles, social media handles are Loans by Halli, H-A-L-I, obviously short for Halliburton.

KEVIN

Nice.

Chris Halliburton

My name is Chris Halliburton.

Andrew Brackenbush

What a last name, by the way, brother.

Chris Halliburton

Boom!

KEVIN

Come on.

Chris Halliburton

You know what's so funny? Real quick, growing up in Kentucky, I lived in Germany for 3 years, but growing up in Kentucky, no one could ever pronounce my last name, so I had to tell them. I come down here and they're like, oh, Halliburton. I'm like, how do you know that?

KEVIN

I was gonna ask, do you, do you like— people are like, oh, Halliburton?

Chris Halliburton

Absolutely.

KEVIN

And they just assume you're loaded?

Chris Halliburton

That's my cousin. I'm like, yeah, that's that old money. That's my, that's my Oh, money. Now my name is with one L, theirs is 2, so I always tell them they cheated me out of an L. That's right, a lot of money, but cool.

Andrew Brackenbush

Thank you so much, appreciate you being on, brother. Nice to meet you.

KEVIN

You too, you too.

Andrew Brackenbush

Good to meet you, bud.

Chris Halliburton

Appreciate it, appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes, sir.

Andrew Brackenbush

Thank you, man.

KEVIN

See, we're getting to meet like famous celebrities.

Chris Halliburton

Celebrities?

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, Mr. Halliburton himself.

KEVIN

He's got, he's got unclaimed money out there somewhere. We got this guy.

Andrew Brackenbush

This is the guy with the sass, right?

KEVIN

It keeps getting worse and worse.

Hillary Bailey

I've learned a lot about you.

Andrew Brackenbush

Over the last 5 episodes.

KEVIN

Your name is— your name has come up a couple times.

The rumors are true. Except I'll stop.

KEVIN

Inappropriate comments, insert here. It had something to do with like Lagrange in a Dolly Parton movie. I don't know.

I am not sure what you're talking about, sir, but, um, there we were. I was up to my knees in grenade cans.

KEVIN

Uh, thank you? I think, I think that's me. I think that's you.

Yeah, I think that's you, bud.

Andrew Brackenbush

It's pretty sure.

Because it seemed inappropriate, so.

KEVIN

So, Brian, you have, in my ears, coined a term that I find endearing for what we're living through right now, and that's squishy.

Soggy squishy.

Alicia Fisher

Soggy squishy.

Chris Halliburton

Yes, sir.

KEVIN

Yeah. So, I mean, like, real quick, let everybody know what you do, but then I want to talk about the soggy squishy.

I own a boutique real estate company that does commercial and residential real estate, and I'm surrounded by absolute angels that are wicked smarter than I am.

KEVIN

I am. All right, so are any of them here tonight?

No, they're smarter than me.

KEVIN

No angels.

Andrew Brackenbush

They knew not to come.

Chris Halliburton

They're smart.

Yeah, I'm unsupervised, so please forgive me.

KEVIN

We don't let them out in public.

There was mistakes. People will be blamed.

KEVIN

You stay in the lab. All right, so, so talk to me about soggy and squishy. I mean, like, you— I— because the last podcast that we did, we had the lender and the inspector, and we started talking about soggy and squishy, and I don't, I don't know that we got like a firm definition as to like what you mean by that.

Andrew Brackenbush

Are those puppets?

No, no, no.

KEVIN

Go ahead, go ahead. I'll bring it.

You looked like you were getting excited.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm excited.

I love that. So the idea is you look at the amount of active homes that everybody wants to sell, right?

KEVIN

Right.

Then you look at the amount of homes that are, uh, they downgrade their prices or price correction.

KEVIN

Okay.

And those exceed the amount of actives. And then you go back to, which is one quarter value, homes that come on active. So that's a metric that means we're not selling real estate. There are houses are still moving in the Greater Houston area. And again, I'm not gonna trash anybody, but—

KEVIN

No, you can do that. That's fine. We can take it this one time.

Okay, easy, cowboy. So, but the idea is with that is you have active homes Corrections are the prices dropped. You know, it's location, I guess, how the condition, and then price. Those are the 3 things. And in houses, it's not like buying anything else. Well, we put it out here, why don't they offer something? No, no, you've sold the house down the street, right? So if it's priced appropriately, it'll sell, especially with the pandemic. You know, that was, I guess, a false market. I'm not going to get into that right now.

KEVIN

We can if you want. I mean, it's hard to—

My tinfoil hat. No, I'm gonna be a student of the Williams this week. You guys, stop. Don't feed the ego.

Andrew Brackenbush

That's what we're here for.

KEVIN

I just want to know if you think there's going to be a round 2. If you had to put on your Nostradamus goggles.

Magic 8-ball.

KEVIN

I'm going to turn it upside down. If you had to put money on it, do you think we're up for a round 2?

All the factors that play into it right now is everybody is— good God, you're so political.

KEVIN

I'll stop.

You're bad. Yes, he's gonna be on the next one, dude. Oh yeah. Um, but the idea is what we have is you have overseas, you know, the Trump— anything I say is water's wet, right? No, it's not. And it's an 80/20 thing. So what, what he's doing is looking at the world economy and he's correcting it from a standpoint of the strong United States. That trickles down into energy and we're like smack dab, which is a word, but you're very popular.

Chris Halliburton

Thank you.

KEVIN

From the gal right there.

No, he is.

KEVIN

He weighs all right.

Chris Halliburton

He's a big boy.

No, uber, uber here. So the idea is he's studying it from a standpoint of a world economy. Okay. And that's very suspect. and dodgy and iffy. And so energy is one of the big things. And, you know, whenever the previous administration— XL Pipeline. In fact, we were offshore 3 days ago and there are no oil rigs in the Gulf. And that's a degradation of that. That's a product of the oil moving offshore farther and farther.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah.

But local— and there are so many factors that play into our recovery. It's, it's hard to, to make that call, but the outlook is positive. Mm-hmm. Patch of 8-ball?

KEVIN

Sure. Good.

I'm encouraged and I can't, you know, be anti, if you will, with the economy. But housing, I don't think we're headed towards a recession. There's a lot of things going on that, politically speaking— that was fun to say.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, I think, I think like one, we're insulated a little bit just because it's Texas, right?

John Wagner

Spartan.

KEVIN

You know, I mean, like, there's, there's that factor. We still have a lot of people flowing into the state.

Oh, we've got so many. I just can't come up from the left coast, right? We've moved so many here that, like, I just, I surrender.

KEVIN

Yeah. And I— but that's— I think that's part of, like, why we're seeing, like, such a kerfuffle in the media right now. That's over—

keep going—

KEVIN

over, over redistricting. Oh, you know, like, bingo. And they're crying because, like, oh, we're redistricting early. Yeah, because we've had a mass influx of people and we don't know where they are. And like, we can't, we can't, can't represent them appropriately unless we know how many people are here. So yeah, we need to do the count.

You played right into the hole. Okay. Yeah. Red and Blue game. I love that. It was a great series at one point.

KEVIN

I'll stop.

There I go again.

KEVIN

Tangents.

So, but if I had to look in one year, I will make this prediction. And again, you can make fun of me at that point, which I will.

KEVIN

Regardless. Yeah.

A or B, it doesn't matter. So the idea is I'm going to claim positivity towards we're going to be in a different place, not just in the real estate market, but all of them. Because right now, the job searches are— it's crazy getting a job right now. Yeah. Last night was a clear illustration version of that.

KEVIN

So I'll stop.

I don't know why I said that. That came out.

KEVIN

I'll—

Alicia Fisher

wow.

KEVIN

Demand is— I can't wait for the after show comment that demands a story that won't be on air.

I know, that was so fun. But the idea is, I'm really excited about it, and the idea is, if you're— so many people in the real estate world are getting out of the business right now. There are so many bankruptcies, it's ridiculous. My Attorney Jennifer Casey, who's going to work for my wife if we ever divorce and take everything I own. She's already on retainer.

KEVIN

There's, there's some good nostalgia for you. Yeah, I'm doomed.

Yeah. If you need ammo, I'm going to give you a belt fed. But the idea with that is we're going to be in a great place.

KEVIN

Yeah.

And that's, that's the claim. And we're going to be upward and a high tide raises all boats. Ronald Reagan. Yeah.

KEVIN

Hello.

Andrew Brackenbush

So what have you seen in the commercial side of things?

John Wagner

Commercial real estate?

It really has been interesting from a standpoint of, you know, people are still looking for leases, but that's gone down a bit. But if you're— if it's the relationships that will continue to preserve that, and who knows who. And there are the big boys on the block. Of course, they'll always do fine. And all the small ones, which that's still me this week, They take the dirt road right now, so leftovers are fine. But did that answer your question?

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, I mean, somebody called and offered me to buy my commercial space yesterday. I'm like, do I hold or do I sell? I mean, obviously it's a loaded question without a context.

What makes a snow globe pretty, right? Okay, shake it up.

KEVIN

I'll stop.

I keep lying. Oh, there I go again.

KEVIN

So, hold on. Never about snow globes though.

Yeah, but the commercial market, did you compare that really? Um, so the idea is Texas, we've always been a 4%, 3%, 4% steady growth. We're not as volatile as like left or right coast. We don't do this. We, we did this, it was a false market during the pandemic. Now we're doing that, the market correction, and we'll start to get back to regular Texas real estate stability.

KEVIN

We're—

we like smooth than easy. She's throwing fingers at me and waving, and it was none of the bad ones though. No, I'm not number one. This is a good thing. So yeah, that was not her unicorn horn. Okay, what are the questions you got, dude?

KEVIN

Did I answer that?

Andrew Brackenbush

I think you got there. You started right.

It's always a story, it's never a finish.

KEVIN

Do you own the commercial space that you're in right now?

Andrew Brackenbush

I do, yeah. So I bought an office condo, I don't know, 3 4 years ago. And actually, the guy that sold it to us came and said, hey, I'll buy it back in cash. I'd like to close in 30 days. And I'm like, there's a reason why you're asking me to buy it.

KEVIN

Yeah, he's got a client.

Andrew Brackenbush

He's got a buyer.

KEVIN

He's got somebody.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

KEVIN

And so, yeah, exactly.

Andrew Brackenbush

So I'm just like, do I sell it?

No, just hold it.

Andrew Brackenbush

Do I list it for my— list it on my own, see what I can get myself?

Oh, there we go. You threw like teacher eyes at me. It's like, yeah, yeah, clever. I'm clever.

Andrew Brackenbush

Uh, yeah, super clever.

Oh wow. I didn't know he had a cape.

KEVIN

So Brian, we, we have We have about a minute to plan shenanigans for our next guest. I mean, do you have anything in store?

Is it Tasha?

KEVIN

It should be. Oh no, okay, we got somebody.

John Wagner

Okay.

Yeah, no, there's no shenanigans because, you know, okay, we're not gonna— we're gonna— Tasha Lowe, it is her birthday and we're gonna absolutely, uh, obscenely embarrass her for several levels.

KEVIN

It just don't want to be a— Yeah, so let's— okay, well, so let Let everybody know, like, how to find you, how to get a hold of you.

Facebook, The Richardson Group Realtors, Google, any one of those. Go to our website. It's really simple. But the idea is ultimately, at the end of the day, we're not looking for the quick kill. We're looking for the happy 5 years from now.

Stephanie Ramirez

There you go.

It's about relationships, dude. You know that.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's why we work with you. Giddy up.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yep.

Yeah, you are. Dude, that was fun. Thank you for intimidating me. Okay, so I don't lick the earphones?

KEVIN

No, I mean, that's totally up to the next guest.

Yeah, you are.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm sorry.

I feel bad.

Andrew Brackenbush

He's awesome.

Hillary Bailey

Hi everybody, my name is Posta. I'm with Texas Law Solutions, and what we basically are—

KEVIN

it's coming through, it's fine.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, we're good.

KEVIN

So I'll go ahead.

Sure.

Andrew Brackenbush

You'll be able to hear us a lot better.

Stephanie Ramirez

I guess so, right?

KEVIN

It just helps. It'll help you hear a lot better. Plus, like, if you can hear you, they can hear you. Well, you know. So if you want to be heard.

Stephanie Ramirez

I don't know if they want to hear me.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yes, they do.

Alicia Fisher

We'll find out.

KEVIN

Let everybody know who you are and what you do.

Stephanie Ramirez

My name is Stephanie Ramirez. I own Assured Bookkeeping Plus and Assured Business Strategies.

KEVIN

Awesome. And like, for people listening, like, what all does a bookkeeper do?

Stephanie Ramirez

That's a loaded question.

KEVIN

Well, that's why I asked it.

Stephanie Ramirez

There's a myth in the world. So there is bookkeeping, there's accounting, there's an enrolled agent, and there's a CPA.

KEVIN

Okay, I have not heard the second-to-last one, enrolled agent.

Andrew Brackenbush

Enrolled agent, yes.

KEVIN

What's that one?

Stephanie Ramirez

So the enrolled agent is A little bit closer. The enrolled agent can actually file your taxes.

Andrew Brackenbush

Oh, but they're not a certified public accountant, right?

That is correct.

Stephanie Ramirez

Okay, that is correct. So at Assured Baking Plus, we are bookkeepers and we are your accountants. Okay, um, there is a little secret. Um, I have been an enrolled agent, but I do not advertise that we do file taxes. We do not file taxes. Okay, we partner with CPAs and enrolled agents. We do your bookkeeping, we do your everyday bookkeeping, and we do your accountant work. But we do file, um, your payroll taxes, which are different from your actual federal taxes. So we love our tradespeople. So we love all of your roofers, we love all of your contractors. We do all of your everyday grinding accounting work.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

We do all of those things that you guys don't like to do.

Andrew Brackenbush

So I've got a question for you because one of the like hot topics in the world that I'm in, I'm in the marketing space, is fractional CFOs. The idea that your bookkeeper is supposed to help you from a strategy perspective too about not just reconciliation but also like where's your money going and budgeting and things like that. Do you guys help and support in those areas as well?

Stephanie Ramirez

We do, we do. So every month we do all of your everyday bookkeeping and accounting work. We provide those financial reports to you, and we give you a breakdown. We give you a summary of where your money is going, where we think that you could cut back, where you— where your differences are. We give you a month-to-month overview of that, and where, hey, you know what, we think it's time that maybe you can pay yourself a little bit more this month.

That's nice.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah, we give you a little bit of a summary with that every single month, and we don't give you a cash flow analysis, which is a little misconception. We want you to understand that a cash flow analysis is a different kind of a statement.

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

But, but, and that is a different, that is a different beast.

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

When are you ready for a bookkeeper? Like, when is the right time to say, okay, it's time to like stop trying to do this on my own?

Stephanie Ramirez

When you open your business.

KEVIN

Speak more to that.

Stephanie Ramirez

You know what, when you open your business, business, do not try to do your books yourself. That is the, that is the number one rule. Um, that is why I'm a Jeeper and I own 2 Jeeps. And I'll tell you that right out the gate, do not try to do it yourself because you will make a large mess. Leave it to the professionals to do it. Um, there's a reason why I don't go out and try to rewire somebody's house.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

And I try to like put a toilet in because I can't do it.

KEVIN

Like, what do you mean like they can mess it up? Like, what are you talking about? Like, what are some mistakes? What are some of the biggest mistakes that you see business operators and owners making by trying to do this stuff?

Stephanie Ramirez

So if you go in and you try to code things in your, what you call a bank feed in QuickBooks, and you code them wrong or you mismatch things in your bank feed, or if you set up your chart of accounts is what we call them, and you're going to code things wrong. Like if you code things, and I'm going to use an example, if you have a bank loan and you're going to put that in as an expense instead of a loan, that is a big mistake.

KEVIN

Right.

Stephanie Ramirez

And it's going to sit on your profit and loss statement versus your balance sheet. I'm kind of speaking foreign language to you.

KEVIN

No, no, no, I'm tracking.

Right.

Stephanie Ramirez

And you might not be tracking. Some people might think, what is going on?

John Wagner

Yeah, no, I think a lot of people are, but like, I'm tracking.

Stephanie Ramirez

You might be tracking, but some people might be like, I don't know what she's talking about right now.

Andrew Brackenbush

I mean, I made a mistake like this recently. I was doing what they call a reasonable shareholder salary.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes.

Andrew Brackenbush

Right. For a K-1 organization. Basically means taking most of my payment came through a K-1 distribution, distribution, and a tiny little amount came through W-2s. And fortunately, I hired a really great new bookkeeper/fractional CFO who was like, hey, just so you know, when you're looking at those cash flow statements, you look like you have a lot of money. But what you're not looking at is that since you're taking so much in K-1s, that is not reflected in your monthly cash report. So on paper, I was like, oh, I've got a surplus of cash. I can do whatever I want, buy whatever I want, hire people, etc. But I I didn't realize that that data was skewed. And so things like that, like knowing when

Andrew Brackenbush

to— okay, should I be paying myself more on a W-2?

Stephanie Ramirez

Right.

Andrew Brackenbush

You know, how is this thing categorized? You know, all of those things.

Stephanie Ramirez

Right. How are those categorized? And at the end of the year, what is that affecting on your personal side of your taxes? And what is that going to mean for your personal taxes? And how much are you going to owe now to the IRS?

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah. Which, I mean, like, there's strategies involved whether or not you're like an S corp, a C corp, an LLC, all that kind of stuff.

Stephanie Ramirez

And at what point are you going to to switch over from being a sole proprietor to an S corp?

KEVIN

Right.

Stephanie Ramirez

Because that's an important decision too, because if you are filing as an S corp, should you be an S corp?

Hillary Bailey

Right.

Stephanie Ramirez

Or the opposite, if you're a sole proprietor, at what point do you switch over to an S corp?

KEVIN

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

What are the revenue— I mean, obviously you said right when you start a business you should hire somebody, but obviously there's revenue kind of benchmarks, if you will, right? From a revenue perspective, when it's like, okay, you really shouldn't be doing this on your own and you really should have a pro in your corner. Even when you're thinking about the kind of clients that you want to work with, what are those benchmarks?

Stephanie Ramirez

I can't tell you a number.

KEVIN

So I think— Without being offensive.

Yes.

Stephanie Ramirez

No, so I actually, I work with the small guys up to the big guys.

Sure.

Stephanie Ramirez

I have special plans, they're called Grow With You plans, that I will work with you because I am a strong believer that you need to have somebody right from the get-go. Yeah. You need to have somebody setting up things right from the the beginning. And so I want to make sure that those people are taken care of. I have people that— I have people on plans that I review their stuff right from the beginning. So every 6 months, I'm gonna tell you, I only touch your books every 6 months because you don't need somebody every single month in your books.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

So I have grow-with-you plans.

KEVIN

Okay.

Stephanie Ramirez

We go in, we do your stuff every 6 months just to have somebody touching your books.

KEVIN

And so if I hire a bookkeeper like you that's only touching my books like every 6 months, I mean, what's something like that gonna cost me?

Stephanie Ramirez

It depends on your transactions.

KEVIN

Okay, it's based on transactions.

Alicia Fisher

That's fair.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah, and I don't ever charge people hourly. That's something that sets me apart too.

Sure.

Stephanie Ramirez

I don't believe in hourly fees. I do straight flat fees.

KEVIN

Okay.

Stephanie Ramirez

Which sets me apart. So that you can budget.

KEVIN

It's easier to budget.

Stephanie Ramirez

It's easier to budget. And that's where me, I look out for my clients' best interest.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

I believe in that too, because I know that on the trades people, they can't budget if all of a sudden they're getting a bill because I worked 5 hours and now all of a sudden, hey, surprise, you have a bill for 5 hours of bookkeeping service. They are gonna know that every 6 months they have a bill for $250.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

That's gonna come. They budget it, end of story.

KEVIN

So like in, in, In like the entrepreneurial space, which I mean most of these people that are here tonight, like we've got a big crowd of people here tonight, like most people have probably read like Rich Dad Poor Dad or something like that. And Kiyosaki talks about like having a bookkeeper is like one of the first essential services that you need to have on your team. And he talks about them as if they are necessary but also his biggest adversary. So I mean like how do you view yourself in your relationship to like your clients? I mean, probably not adversarial.

Stephanie Ramirez

Absolutely necessary.

KEVIN

Absolutely necessary.

Stephanie Ramirez

Absolutely necessary because I'm gonna be your right-hand person. And they call me throughout the day. They're like, can I call— like a wife even. I mean, can I buy this? I'm at Home Depot. Can I really buy this? What card do I put this on?

Andrew Brackenbush

I mean, looking back, You know, I've been in a company, I own my company now for like 13 years. I wish I would have made that decision sooner in the business. And obviously I went through a number of service providers and like now I love my person, right? Like they're great, but it didn't come with the kind of relationship or cadence that it sounds like you offer your clients. And I think that that's so important that you find someone you trust. The fact that you grow with your clients.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yes.

KEVIN

I think that's crucial.

John Wagner

Yeah, it's huge.

Andrew Brackenbush

reality is if they're successful, you're successful.

Stephanie Ramirez

And that's what I tell my clients every day when I offer the free consultations and education. I believe thoroughly you have to trust your person, and I tell that to those people when I'm on my consultations. I offer this free consultation so that you learn and you trust whoever it is you choose. Make sure that you trust them. Make sure you do your background checks. Make sure that they're, they're who you feel that you trust. Yeah, because you have to trust that person.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, they're kind of responsible for the biggest part of your business, which is—

Stephanie Ramirez

That is the biggest part of your business.

KEVIN

So we're getting the wrap-up sign from Marianne. This has been awesome, by the way. So I know this is the most questions Andrew's asked all night.

Andrew Brackenbush

You know, I'm a money guy.

KEVIN

I love money.

Andrew Brackenbush

Let's talk money.

KEVIN

So if people are looking for services like you How do they get a hold of you?

Stephanie Ramirez

They go to my website, which is assuredbookkeepingplus.com. You can go right down into my website where it's how it works. There is an online form, it's a questionnaire, it brings you right to the online form. It's a quick little questionnaire, you can answer as much as you want or as little as you want. Yeah, once you hit submit, that shoots it right to me. I review that form, I will reach out to you, and we can set up the We go to that Zoom, the little Zoom link. I set up a free Zoom consultation with me. It's all free. It's an hour Zoom consultation. We set that up and we take it from there.

KEVIN

Awesome. Thank you so much for sitting down with us tonight.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, thank you so much.

KEVIN

Appreciate it.

Yeah.

Stephanie Ramirez

Thank you, guys.

KEVIN

Man, this has been a— this has been a fun night.

Andrew Brackenbush

Oh yeah, this is always fun.

KEVIN

I love this.

Andrew Brackenbush

I love to talk, so I mean, it's not hard.

KEVIN

No, 100%, man. Remind everybody what you're like. I know you talked about Wisdom. That was like your new, like, AI.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, Wingman.

KEVIN

Wingman.

Andrew Brackenbush

Sorry, Wisdom.

Alicia Fisher

It's the same.

KEVIN

Wisdom. It is wisdom to hire Wingman.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yes, that's right. That's right. So Wingman is an all-in-one marketing and sales automation software that we created so that companies could kind of automate all of their marketing and sales efforts without the need for third-party 30 different tools. So you think about calendar booking software, review reputation management software, invoicing software. I mean, you name it, the tool list stacks up, right? You're probably spending $500 or $600 a month. We cut all of those bills, we bring it into one tool, and then it's got a lot of really cool AI stuff. The most popular feature is our AI receptionists. So instead of a voicemail after hours, 5 o'clock, somebody calls, a receptionist will answer questions for the business. Book an appointment. It's really, really amazing.

KEVIN

Dude, there's, there's an AI guy I need you to meet before the night is over.

Stephanie Ramirez

Who?

Chris Halliburton

I gotta meet him.

KEVIN

I, Brenda and what's it? Edwin and Brenda.

Stephanie Ramirez

Huh?

KEVIN

Edwin and Brenda.

John Wagner

Yeah.

KEVIN

Edwin and Brenda. Yeah. I'll meet them.

Yeah.

KEVIN

I'm supposed to have a meeting with them later on this week, but like, you need to, you need to talk with them.

Andrew Brackenbush

I love AI.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

Chris Halliburton

Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

Anything I can do. I teach AI workshops for free every month at our office. And if you wanna check out Wingman, it's trustyourwingman.com. Every business needs a wingman. We just dropped a brand new website today. It's really cool. Uh, and yeah, thanks for having me again, dude.

KEVIN

Thanks for coming.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

KEVIN

All right, before we get over to my good friend Tanya, I'm going to get a shout out.

Alicia Fisher

Huh?

KEVIN

Tanya? Tanya? What did I say?

You said Tanya.

KEVIN

Tasha.

Tasha.

Andrew Brackenbush

Tasha. Listen, listen, he's been podcasting for too long. It's the old fashions. Tell him to stop drinking.

KEVIN

That's, that's a fair, that's a fair comment. On your, on the day after your birthday.

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

KEVIN

Tasha.

Stephanie Ramirez

Ah, I forgive you.

KEVIN

I'm the worst. Is this—

John Wagner

is this—

That's my fiancé.

Stephanie Ramirez

Uh-huh.

KEVIN

Yeah, no, I've heard about you. I've heard about you. I, I was also— listen, I was, I was asked by Brian Richardson to present you with this, with this rubber chicken. Now listen, you're entitled to shoot that at the back of his head right now. I think, I think that needs to happen.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yes!

KEVIN

It was a near miss. He felt it though. He felt it.

Hillary Bailey

The wind.

KEVIN

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KEVIN

breaking up the scams that are happening in the solar industry. He is one of the leaders making that happen. We're actually going to be out there with him at the Moco Home Show at the, uh, beginning of September. Great company. Happy to have them as sponsor. So we just got done talking about bookkeeping. I know that's what you guys do. So with my good friend over there, so what sets you guys apart as bookkeepers in the industry? I actually drove past your office on the way here.

Really?

KEVIN

Yeah, right there on the feeder on 45. Is that like a 4-story?

Stephanie Ramirez

5.

KEVIN

It's a 5-story?

Okay. We're on the second floor.

KEVIN

I didn't mean to like downgrade it or anything.

No, actually, um, Stephanie and I are good friends and we've had many, many conversations about bookkeeping and being in the area in this industry. And there's a lot of similarities on how we approach business and how we think about things.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's— oh, it's good to have friends that are like, they're the competition but they have integrity. Like, they're doing things— you can't hear?

Andrew Brackenbush

The headphones just got weird for me too.

KEVIN

Oh, for you too? Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me now?

Andrew Brackenbush

No, it's like super muffled.

KEVIN

right now.

Andrew Brackenbush

There we go, we're back. We're back, kind of. No, it was back for like half a second. Right now we're back-ish.

KEVIN

How about that? Nothing?

Andrew Brackenbush

No, it's like pretty muffled.

KEVIN

Hang on, give me a second.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm excited to talk money, by the way.

KEVIN

Oh no, I might be able to try to read lips.

That's off.

KEVIN

That's fine, it's fine if that's off. Hang on, let me, let me see what I can do here.

John Wagner

Sweet.

KEVIN

Talk amongst yourselves.

Hillary Bailey

Oh wait.

KEVIN

How long have you been doing this?

Um, I got my accounting degree a long time ago. I've done work at a private CPA firm, I've done more corporate type accounting, and then, um, I've been a better bookkeeper for But I've been in a business development role for a little over a year now, so I kind of—

Chris Halliburton

Not yet.

Andrew Brackenbush

She can't hear yet, but I can. This is her cable.

KEVIN

Like muffled?

Hillary Bailey

Uh-uh.

John Wagner

How about now?

I can hear the background noise and you kind of sound scratchy.

Andrew Brackenbush

She says I still sound a little scratchy, Craig.

John Wagner

Say what?

Andrew Brackenbush

She said I sound a little scratchy. Like a little muffly?

Hillary Bailey

Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

Still a little scratchy for you?

Oh, that sounds better.

Andrew Brackenbush

Better?

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay.

Andrew Brackenbush

For now we're good. We're good for now. Yeah, come on back.

It's quieter, but it—

Andrew Brackenbush

It's quiet for her, but she can hear herself. Maybe you can give her a little bit more, more in her headphones, just a little bit.

Oh my God, old age.

Andrew Brackenbush

You're only 30. One ear.

Can't tell.

Andrew Brackenbush

She has one ear. One of her ears. Yeah, but the the mic—it's like just a little phasy, like back and forth. Yeah, it's like kind of coming in and out. Any better? Better, better for now.

Okay, that sounds good. Now now you walked away. Yeah.

Andrew Brackenbush

Technology, you know.

KEVIN

Park my fat butt back in here. Squeeze in, brother, squeeze in. Okay, I can hear you. I can—

well, now I Can't hear anything. Can't hear anything? Nothing. Okay, hang on.

KEVIN

How about that? Nothing. Yeah, I have an idea.

Andrew Brackenbush

Craig, you want her to have my seat so she can be interviewed?

KEVIN

How about that? Still nothing. Hang on, I got more. I got more options. Nothing.

Oh, right here.

KEVIN

How about that? I can hear. You can hear? Yeah. Can you hear Andrew?

Alicia Fisher

Can you hear me?

I can here? Kind of.

KEVIN

Hang on, how about that? Nothing?

Andrew Brackenbush

I could share her my headphones if you'd like.

KEVIN

Hang on, hang on, this is fine.

You act like you don't know how to work this.

KEVIN

No, it's going away altogether. It's all fine.

Andrew Brackenbush

It went away altogether for me too now, all the way.

KEVIN

How about that? Nope, gone.

Hillary Bailey

Right here.

KEVIN

You can hear it?

This ear.

KEVIN

This ear? All right, hang on, I'm gonna to fix Andrew's now. Gone.

Andrew Brackenbush

No headphones at all.

KEVIN

How about that?

Stephanie Ramirez

Nothing.

KEVIN

Nothing? How about that?

Andrew Brackenbush

Nothing.

KEVIN

Nothing. All right, hang on.

Are you still live?

KEVIN

This is, this is all, this is all by touch. Ah, it's all by touch.

Don't move.

KEVIN

How about that?

Andrew Brackenbush

I've got some headphones. Do you got some headphones? We both have a little bit.

KEVIN

How about that?

Andrew Brackenbush

Only in my left ear.

KEVIN

Only in— can you hear though?

Chris Halliburton

Yes.

KEVIN

All right, let's roll with it.

John Wagner

Can you hear at all?

Andrew Brackenbush

Okay.

KEVIN

Hey, I told you I could do it.

Oh, there it goes. Now I got the right ear.

Andrew Brackenbush

That is so bizarre. It's just like going— it's picking which ear it wants to go into.

KEVIN

Really?

Hillary Bailey

Yeah.

KEVIN

All right, well, that's because it's the old one. It's the technology for sure. The Pro 1. We need the— we should have brought the Pro 2. Lesson learned. All right, so happy birthday. It's fine.

Andrew Brackenbush

Postdated.

KEVIN

Did you get anything fun?

Yeah, actually I did.

KEVIN

What'd you get?

Uh, on Sunday, Jay and I went up to Breakthrough by Dave Buster's and— Hey, Marianne.

KEVIN

Sorry. It's fine, we'll just go.

No, keep, keep going. We, uh, I don't know if you guys heard of Breakthrough. It's a new place. There's like 40 rooms where it's like physical, mental skill, and we went up there and played some games for like an hour and a half. And we— when we left, we realized that the next time we go play games, we should compete, not try to work together.

KEVIN

Ah, were y'all trying to get tickets? Is that what—

No, there's no tickets. It's just like— it's actually like a team building place.

KEVIN

Is it fun? You said Dave— you said Dave Buster's.

It's right next to Dave Buster's. It's called Breakthrough. B-R-K-Through.

KEVIN

Is it like an escape room kind of thing?

Nope, there's 40 Oh my gosh. And then there's like on the outside of each there's a pyramid and it's like physical, mental, and skills. And it'll have like marked whether it's purely physical, purely skills, or maybe it's mental and physical. It's so cool. And there's just like a name of what the room is and like a teeny tiny couple-word clue, and then you like scan your wristband and go in and see what's in there.

Andrew Brackenbush

Is the idea to go through all 40 or no?

No, it's just— I mean, you could spend your time trying to conquer one if we wanted to. There's like a leaderboard, like you create a team and you're constantly on this leaderboard, and it's a lot of fun.

Andrew Brackenbush

Did you go as a group of friends or just you?

No, it's just me and Jay.

Andrew Brackenbush

Nice, that's pretty cool. Where's this at again?

It's right next to Dave Buster's.

Andrew Brackenbush

Like right here?

Yep, just straight up.

KEVIN

Just up the highway a little bit. Nice. That, that whole area is kind of like, it's kind of like offset, but like it's kind of cool. Like, yeah. Like all the little things that it has up in there.

There's a lot of things. I mean, Dave Buster's has completely remodeled. I mean, that place has just grown huge. Um, then you have Breakthrough right across from it. There's a— there is an escape room place up there, and then they have another place called Battle Rooms, which is— there's like literally 2 separate rooms, and you go with a bunch of people, and like in one room it's like, it's like you're playing Family Feud, you know, like you and your So yeah, there's a bunch of different things that they got going on.

KEVIN

Great team-building stuff. I mean, I, I'm, I'm actually kind of curious because I, I— one, how's your dad?

He's good.

KEVIN

Yeah?

Stephanie Ramirez

Yeah.

KEVIN

Is he still rolling around doing everything, doing all his cowboy stuff?

I, uh, we went home at the end of June, um, for some family stuff, and I got to see my dad, and he hadn't seen it yet, and so So I got to play it for him and watch him watch it.

KEVIN

I love it.

It was, it was so awesome.

KEVIN

I love it. So she, she talked about her dad. He's a, he's a cowboy. Is it South Dakota or North Dakota?

North.

KEVIN

North Dakota. He's a cowboy up in North Dakota. And like, she spent, she spent—

Andrew Brackenbush

Like real-life cowboy?

KEVIN

Yeah. Oh yeah.

I mean, he's like 83 years old, 6'1. Cowboy boots, hat, pearl button shirt, Wranglers.

Chris Halliburton

Nice.

I wish I had my phone on me. I'd show you a picture I took when I was up there. We jumped in his 1979 Ford F-150 Custom and took Old Red for a drive. It was—

KEVIN

I think I saw that picture.

Yeah, with my dad in the backseat.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, he's legit. He's legit for sure. Yeah, like, I, I love that. Like, I think we spent like 15-20 minutes talking about her dad last time she was on. So I just sound— yeah, he's— I haven't met him, but like, he sounds like the kind of guy I like want to sit on the porch and hang out with.

Andrew Brackenbush

But he's got some great stories.

Oh my God, when we were— there's a picture of my dad driving, and I snapped a portrait like at the perfect time, like the sun's shining in, he's got his cowboy hat on, and like as I took the picture, he was like— he just had this smirk and he was like, if this truck could talk. And I was like, oh, I don't think I want to know all these stories.

KEVIN

Is, is, is he from North Dakota? Where was he from? Where was he? He was born there?

He grew up in Galva, which is like, I don't know, like 10 minutes south.

Alicia Fisher

10 minutes south?

Yeah.

KEVIN

Were you born there?

No.

KEVIN

No, where were you born?

I was born in Minnesota, but I'm adopted.

KEVIN

Which, it's not far. I mean, like, yeah. Yeah. That's so cool. I love it. I love the whole story. Like, if people don't know it, they should go back and listen to the previous— I don't even remember what episode number it was. It's been a minute, but I love that story. So did he call you on your birthday? Yes. Yeah?

He always waits till like later at night. And I was actually— I wasn't feeling well last night.

KEVIN

Oh, sorry.

I know, right? And my phone was on silent and I looked at it after a little while and of course Dad calls at like 8:30. Yeah. And I called him back. He's like, oh, I thought you were out celebrating. And I was like, no, not tonight, Dad. Not this year.

KEVIN

That's what today is for. See, Brian's taking your picture.

Stephanie Ramirez

I know.

I wonder if it's an accident that your headphones weren't working.

KEVIN

It's all his fault.

I mean, the screen's not up.

Andrew Brackenbush

Screen's gone.

Hillary Bailey

Headphones are gone.

My fiancé's magically gone, and so is my purse.

KEVIN

Dang. Things are afoot. I think, I think celebrations are, are afoot is what's happening. So I, you know, you may not realize it. Are you still alive?

Maybe.

KEVIN

I think so. They're giving us fingers. So, well, okay, so I know we haven't talked a whole lot about bookkeeping, which is fine because we spend a lot of time talking about bookkeeping with our last guest. We like talking about your dad. But I know Melanie wants to get the airtime. So like, what, I mean, like, I know you guys do bookkeeping. If people want to get a hold of you, how do they find you?

We have our website. We're on Facebook, we're on Instagram, we're on LinkedIn. You'll find us, we're involved in all the chambers, Conroe, The Woodlands, EMC, Magnolia. We're everywhere.

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah. What's your website and what's your dream client?

Our website is www.betterbookkeeperstx.com and our dream client is someone who is sick of trying to do it on their own and they want the time back so they can focus on building their business rather than focus on bookkeeping, which unless you went to school for it, I mean, do you guys want to do it?

KEVIN

Nope, I do not.

Andrew Brackenbush

Are there any particular industries that you love doing work with?

We love all of them.

Andrew Brackenbush

Everybody?

Honestly, we have clients in every single industry.

KEVIN

Yeah, wouldn't mind a little oil and gas, I'd imagine.

Honestly, the industry really doesn't Because it's not relevant to us because numbers are still numbers on a—

Andrew Brackenbush

Yeah, for sure.

Software.

KEVIN

100%. Makes sense to me.

Andrew Brackenbush

High-volume transactions is always good.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's the one. That's the one.

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah, we're good. She— who you got next?

Andrew Brackenbush

Oh, that's a lot of people.

KEVIN

That's a lot.

That's a lot of people.

KEVIN

people for 3 mics?

Andrew Brackenbush

Me and 18 people.

KEVIN

Well, you, you might want to go mingle then.

Andrew Brackenbush

I'm gonna mingle so that you can have extra microphones, and I'll just keep drinking Old Fashioneds.

KEVIN

Well, there you go. Can I, can I pour half of yours in?

Please do.

KEVIN

Okay, that's— yeah, I think that's fair.

Andrew Brackenbush

We could share.

John Wagner

There we go.

Andrew Brackenbush

Somehow I got a second one anyways.

KEVIN

What? Well, come on.

Andrew Brackenbush

All right, cool.

KEVIN

Happy birthday, my friend.

Hillary Bailey

Thank you.

KEVIN

Happy birthday.

Welcome to my 40s.

KEVIN

Yes, it's, it's the years of your life. I believe that.

I've been excited for the 4 years.

Alicia Fisher

It's—

KEVIN

yeah, like, listen, I'm 4 years in. You're good.

Thanks, Craig.

John Wagner

Talk right quick.

Alicia Fisher

Say what?

Andrew Brackenbush

Still just the left ear.

KEVIN

Okay, we'll make—

Stephanie Ramirez

we'll make—

KEVIN

Is it birthday time?

Andrew Brackenbush

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna get out of here. Okay, man.

KEVIN

Dude, hang out. I'll be here. Yeah. All right, guys. This is we're we're still live here at Two Tones. We got some some special guests jumping in. Come on, come on around. You're acting like I can hear you and I can't.

Hillary Bailey

Hey. Hi.

Hi. How are you?

KEVIN

Tired. I bet.

That's a lot of a lot of talking.

KEVIN

So we have, we have all my good friends, the pillars of the net. But yeah, we got 3 headsets here, so hopefully you guys can hear me down there. What did— what? Say what?

John Wagner

I can hear you.

KEVIN

You can hear me? Yeah, I can.

Chris Halliburton

Fantastic.

We're just gonna look pretty.

Stephanie Ramirez

We're just here to look pretty.

KEVIN

Just, just relay to them what I'm saying.

Hillary Bailey

We're really just here to look pretty.

And you're nailing it.

KEVIN

He's asking you to dance. Oh, yeah. That's what he's saying right now. Listen. He's getting kind of angry. I have so many directions I want to take that. Careful, sponsors. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So let's start here. What do you want to— what do you want to— like, why are we here? What are we doing other than Brian taking our picture?

We're here to support each other. We're here to build community with one another, to get to know one another so that when you're in your house and you're really hot, you're gonna think of JoJo for AC. When you're squishing a bug and freaking out, you're gonna think of Craig. And when you ruin those floors from the bugs, you're gonna think of Adrian.

KEVIN

There you go.

Alicia Fisher

And then when you're like, oh my gosh, I need to move, you're gonna think of Robert.

And moving is really stressful, so you're gonna want to go on vacation, so you think of Marianne.

KEVIN

100%.

That is why we are here.

KEVIN

Yep. So, and like, here's the thing is like, I'm, I'm part of this group and I I have used everybody that you're seeing right now.

We love you, Doug.

KEVIN

Either through personal referrals or actually services in my home, because they're people that I feel confident in actually sharing their contact information with to people to be taken care of. And so it's a special relationship that I think everybody has. As a group of 5, to put on an event like this, even though we have some competition over here, they're not really competition because they don't do what we do. We operate on a different stratosphere. We're trying to do something a little bit different. I know you're trying to, you're trying to, you're trying to hear. It's only the wrong side. Can these reach? Can these reach? Oh yeah, they can reach. We want to get the water.

Alicia Fisher

There's a little. We're good. Why don't we answer?

Hillary Bailey

I can hear Craig. It's fine.

KEVIN

So I mean like. Reach.

Alicia Fisher

And I'm going to strangle Adrian.

KEVIN

No, the. Not that that's a problem. I mean really, I want I want you guys to be able to say like why it is that you guys think that. what we're doing is important? Well, it's important because there's not really a whole lot of places out there that do stuff like this, right? The goal is not for me to get business.

Alicia Fisher

Right.

KEVIN

The goal is for me to create the opportunity for people to come and network with each other, right? I don't want to force anybody to have to talk to this person and you're a part of this team and you better be a part of that team that team's got to do this. We just wanted to make an atmosphere where people could come together. If you want to talk to certain people, great, talk to certain people. If you wanted to go just hang out with your friends for an evening because you're all networked out for the week, cool, go do that. Your friends are there too. Yeah, whatever you wanted it to be, it's here. Yeah, what do you— what about you?

About me?

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why am I here? What do I believe in?

KEVIN

No, so what was What's the question, legitimately? Why is what we're doing important?

Yeah, why is what we're doing important? Because where we are in the world and in society, I think connection is so important and collaboration is so important. There's enough competition, but there's enough business to go around. And the beautiful thing about The Net is we really are a family. So we really encourage cross-team collaboration. And I think that's just super important for where we are as a community, as a society. The other thing for me is what's big about the are different about The Net is community service and engagement. Like, giving back is so huge. Yeah. And that's one thing that The Net does very well, is that we are all about supporting local nonprofits, and

to the point that we have a specific chair for every team that is free to join because we really, really believe in community. So that's why it's important to me.

Alicia Fisher

Yeah.

KEVIN

Robert. Top that, Robert. Yeah, go ahead. I mean, are we answering this as The Net as a whole or just this night? For you? I mean, for me, for the net as a whole, just, I mean, we're all social creatures as being humans. And to me, what's the point in life if you're not connecting with other people? You know, what's the point in living if you're not getting to know others, you're not helping others out? Like, to me, the best way to live is to make a real impact and be a part of somebody's life. Like, I know I'm making lifelong relationships that I can look up in 10 years and I can see JoJo's daughter, you know, becoming a teenager.

Stephanie Ramirez

A teenager.

KEVIN

I'm gonna look in the mirror with gray hair I can see Adrian with finally some kids, but I know we're just— What's important to me is just be able to live life every day knowing that I'm a part of something important. I'm able to make an impact on different people, and I'm just able to be a part of like something great. Like, I just show up and I'm with my friends. My friend may be a realtor, my friend maybe do travel agency, my friend may be a pest control person, but we all have the same common goal of just growing ourselves professionally, business-wise, guys, um, personally, whatever it may be. But I, I don't know, I'm giving such a broad answer, but yeah, the net answers so many things for my

KEVIN

life. Uh, it checks so many boxes, but it just adds so much positivity and just, I don't know, it just does all the things.

Yeah.

KEVIN

And not only do that, but we also give back. So we're not only creating a community, but we're giving back to the community, and it just, just gives me a real purpose in life. So I don't know if that really gives the right answer, but the net just does so much to me. I feel like it just— it's such a positive impact on my life. Yeah. And I'm noticing it's the same thing for so many others. Like, I've noticed talking with so many people, they're able to find a home here and they're, they're truly happy. Like, it's, it's crazy talking to people because I'm talking to so many more people now with networking. I own it. Just

KEVIN

own it. It's fine. It's crazy to me. Like, I'm talking to Carla today and She's explaining to her husband how amazing what we've put together and how she's just, she's just happy to be here. She's part of— she's been a part of other things and this is just different. It feels different for her. Yeah, it just feels good, dude. She's— and she's awesome, by the way.

Yeah, I mean, like, she's— y'all, it is because of y'all, everybody. I don't know if Craig introduced them properly, but like, they are the OGs. Like, y'all have been here since day one. Y'all have made this one it is. I'm like crying.

Hillary Bailey

I'm just—I feel very grateful. There you go.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's the best attitude. Gratitude is the best attitude. Yeah. This is this is fun tonight, y'all. Adrian doesn't like emotion. He does not. He's so uncomfortable. She's gonna love having makeup. Well, because okay, so they're they're they're fixing to start the show, which means we got to shut this one down.

Alicia Fisher

So here's here.

KEVIN

Here's the big question: Who's gonna win karaoke tonight? Adrian. Adrian's gonna win. Absolutely. All right. All right. Next question. What's your signature song? Junior Wise. Don't know that I have one. Stop. Time. The song doesn't matter; it's all about the performance.

Andrew Brackenbush

Adrian sing on a cruise ship.

Adrian will cruise ship karaoke any day of the week.

KEVIN

It really could be anything. Could be Disney. It could be ludicrous. Would you would you be up for like a Dolly Parton Kenny Rogers duet with that? Absolutely. Okay. I'll be Kenny Rogers. And I'll have Robert for the Dolly Parton. There you go.

Naturally, naturally.

Alicia Fisher

Of course.

KEVIN

I think you're, I think you're built for it. I guess so. I, I'm missing a couple things that, you know, right here, Dolly Parton has. But, you know, fun fact, I used to have a crush on Dolly Parton. Hey, I still borderline kind of— there's nothing wrong with that at all. No. Absolutely. I think they're gonna kick it off. All right, I'm gonna wrap it up. We need to go. Appreciate you. All right, thank you guys. All right guys, we're gonna kick it off with some karaoke. We're gonna shut things down, but thank you so much for joining us here on the live broadcast of The Homeowner Show. Anything else you want to, you want to add to the, uh, conver— like

KEVIN

nothing?

No, I cried, so I feel pretty No, we got that clip.

Alicia Fisher

It's good.

Thank you so much. I've done my work.

Hillary Bailey

Hollywood is calling.

KEVIN

All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us here on the live broadcast tonight. We've had a great time. We had some great guests. See you next time. Bye-bye.

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