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In this episode Craig and Kevin review the new Ryobi brushless tools. Brushless tools are the newest innovation in power tools. Ryobi has brought a handful of tools into their lineup in the brushless category and Craig has been using them for a few weeks. In this review we give you detailed information about these tools, why we like them so much, and why we think you should seriously consider these new brushless tools. But what exactly does brushless mean? And what makes them superior? Are they worth the extra cost? We answer these questions and so much more in this review.

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KEVIN

This is episode number 111 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, all of my lovely friends and family out there in the podosphere. Thank you for joining The Homeowner Show. We're glad that you could join us on this Very special episode. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

Man, I am good. It's Monday. We're recording. Yeah. For a Tuesday episode.

CRAIG

Not tomorrow.

KEVIN

Not tomorrow. But, um, I'll tell you what's wonderful. Yes. The weather. Oh, dude.

CRAIG

It is gorgeous outside.

KEVIN

It is so wonderful. So I, I was—

CRAIG

I—

KEVIN

it's football season. I've been outside. It is just— I woke up this morning, it was like in the low 60s, and around here that's dang near freezing.

CRAIG

Here's my favorite part about it dropping below 70, which it was a good like— I think it was like 65 degrees this morning.

KEVIN

Yeah, it was nice.

CRAIG

So when it, when it drops below 70 here, the, the wasps literally refuse to move off their nest. And so like you can safely approach the nest And then destroy them.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, I like— I, I know some people that like their favorite thing to do is like get up and just like crumple them up.

CRAIG

With their hands?

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

I've seen people do that.

KEVIN

Oh, you're not gonna see me do it.

CRAIG

No, I'm not doing it either. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.

KEVIN

Yeah, my favorite method is a lighter and an aerosol can. That's, that's my favorite way to do it.

CRAIG

I've done that with spider webs before, which is a little more satisfying because it like, it lights all the webbing on fire. It's also more dangerous because it's usually attached to a house.

KEVIN

Well, a lot of, uh, wasp nests are as well, man.

CRAIG

But you can, you can find one out in the, out in the wild every once in a while.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, yep.

KEVIN

But what's going on with you, man?

CRAIG

Oh dude, we, uh, we, we put a window in today.

KEVIN

Oh, window? Like at your house?

CRAIG

Well, I helped my father-in-law do it and it was a second-story window.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And he had, uh, cut a hole in the side of this building, so we're having to attach it from the outside.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

And he almost lost it and fell off the ladder.

KEVIN

No, no.

CRAIG

He was so close because I was on the inside holding the window in and he was out there trying to screw it in. And he was— he threw something over his shoulder. When he did, he almost lost his balance. I'm like, like, we just put the window in, so like, I can't even reach out and grab you.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

So I was like, if he falls, do I like— do I stand here and go, are you okay?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Or do I run down and check on him? I don't know. But good thing he did. He just didn't fall.

KEVIN

Well, and it's your father-in-law, so you got a decision to make. Do I like him?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Do I not like him? I mean, this is a really good way to say, hey, I loved him.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It was a tragic accident.

CRAIG

He didn't make it. He didn't make it. Sorry. You know. Well, he also reminded me, he goes, you know, Craig, God must really love you. And I said, why is that? And he goes, well, he didn't let me fall off that ladder. He goes, because if I fell off that ladder, you'd be left with your mother-in-law all by yourself. I did not respond.

KEVIN

You're a smart man. You're wise beyond your looks.

CRAIG

I just told him I was certain he loved me. I just didn't know how much.

KEVIN

I think you got a pretty clear picture right there. He's like, I'll do anything to not leave you. I'll not fall out of this window right now.

CRAIG

That's right. That's pretty good. Anyway, we got a cool episode. We're gonna do a threefer on this one.

KEVIN

A threefer.

CRAIG

A threefer.

KEVIN

That's a first.

CRAIG

Yeah, so we've got 3 new tools that Ryobi just dropped a couple weeks ago that went out and snagged, and we're gonna take a peek at 'em. Now, this is a whole new line that Ryobi's come out with, and I think they only have 5 tools in total in this new line.

KEVIN

Yeah, that, that I think you're right. There's, they're really, they've got some that you probably don't even realize they've got because I'm looking right now and there's a lot more than that. I mean, I'm—

CRAIG

They have, they have a bunch of tools, but so what we're, what we're talking about is the new ONE+ HP Brushless.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I think the HP, they've got the impact, the drill, the, the, it's not a Sawzall, but it's a, um, what do they call it? What is it?

KEVIN

Let's see what it says in here. Reciprocating saw.

CRAIG

It's a reciprocating saw, but it's like called something.

KEVIN

I don't know.

CRAIG

It's like a hacksaw or something like that. Um, hacksaw. Um, but then they also have like the cutoff tool and then the 90-degree drill.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Or, but I don't know if, have they come out with more since then?

KEVIN

No, they, they, so they, I'm looking here right now. They've got more of the brushless.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

But not the brushless HP.

CRAIG

Yeah, HP is the new— is the newest one.

KEVIN

Yeah, that, that's, that's, um, the— I assume that stands for high power.

CRAIG

I assume.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And so, um, yeah, I'm— I mean, they've got a lot of brushless tools here, but the HP specifically is the newest. And yeah, you're, you're right, they've got the— that right angle option. The compact.

CRAIG

So basically 3 drills, uh, a cutoff tool.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

And the hacksaw.

KEVIN

Yeah, they call it, they call it a, a handed reciprocating saw. Yeah. So what's interesting about, about it is that it's, it's weighted really well so that one hand is all you really need.

CRAIG

You can use 2 with it, but yeah, you, I mean, because you can, I mean, if you get it on the video here, we can, yeah. I don't know where the microphone went. Um, but yeah, so you can, you can hold this bad boy with one hand, um, and, and go after something, but you could put your hand right there on top of it and use it to kind of put it, but you don't really don't need to.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, and, uh, and, and we'll get into this a little bit more. I mean, it has all the same functions of the Sawzall. I mean, it takes the same blades. Uh, one of the big differences is all, all of the HP tools have a specific Angled LED light.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, I was actually looking at that a couple of weeks ago, and first of all, it's really bright.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

And it is perfectly positioned.

CRAIG

Yeah, and on the drills, they're all coming up from the bottom, which doesn't seem intuitive at first until you start using it, and then it's like, oh, like it, it actually shines light on what you need to see. Yeah. Um, whereas the other ones, like, you could potentially get your finger over it because they're like underneath the actual motor of it, um, and whatever. So anyway, the 3 that we've got, we've got the, the, the reciprocating saw, the HP reciprocating saw, the HP drill, and then the, uh, HP, uh, compact.

KEVIN

Yeah. And did we mention the, um, Did we mention the cutoff tool as one of them?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay, I couldn't remember.

CRAIG

It's like a mini circular saw.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, I don't think— it doesn't look like it's big enough to cut a 2x4.

KEVIN

No, and really, I think what it's probably useful for as much as anything is you trim. Yeah, like you put a little, you know, some trim in there, but it also looks like you put like a, like a grinder tool in there.

CRAIG

Yeah, you could cut like metal with a specific blade and, and, and things like that. Okay.

KEVIN

Sorry, keep going.

CRAIG

No, that's fine. Um, so what they advertise about these is that, uh, the big thing is that they're 30% lighter than their standard tools.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, I can personally attest to that when it comes to the drill and the, uh, the impact. The reciprocating saw, it's, it's really, really obvious. I mean, those, those Sawzalls are massive.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so heavy. And they just, I mean, they've got, they've got big motors on them. This is, I would say that this is more than 30% less. Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, it—

CRAIG

wait.

KEVIN

Yeah, it definitely, it definitely doesn't, doesn't feel as heavy. And it's the other thing that I really love about it specifically is the way that it is weighted. It, it doesn't— a lot of times it's tool heavy. But this one doesn't feel that way. Like, the, the weight between— so, so a lot of the weight is kind of in front of your hand. So by the time you put the battery on it, which is in the back of your hand, it, it just really— it, it weights itself out really well.

CRAIG

Yeah, no, it's, it, it's got a good hand feel to it, and it's, it's more of like a pistol grip.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Than the other one, you're kind of at like a 90-degree angle when you're pulling the trigger. This one, you're almost perpendicular— not perpendicular, parallel to where you're cutting when you pull in the trigger, whereas the other one you're kind of— you are perpendicular when you pull that trigger on the other one, right? Um, so anyway, um, but let's, let's, let's kind of go with, with the drill. The drill has— honestly, it has all the same functions as the big Ryobi brushless.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, okay, so one question I've got— I'm looking at it right here, and, and I don't think that that you can see it in the camera. It's gonna have to be up like by your face.

CRAIG

There you go. Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, one of the things I'm curious about, my Ryobi drills, they have a magnet on them to like, you know, if you want to put like—

CRAIG

It does not have a magnet. Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's one of the things I was wondering about. It's got like a place to put like nails and, um, stuff like that. So—

CRAIG

And honestly, where the magnet usually would be is where the LED is. I don't know if you can see that right there. Yeah. But when you pull it, you can, you can actually engage the LED.

KEVIN

Yep. We can see it.

CRAIG

And it stays on once you do that though.

KEVIN

Yeah. So that, that again, I don't know how huge of a, of an issue that is. I mean, a lot of, if you're, if you're using this tool for a lot of, like a big job, the magnet's really pretty useless anyway, 'cause you're gonna need a pouch, you know, like a, like a place on, on your tool belt or something to keep all of those.

CRAIG

And I usually do that anyway. I mean, usually got a tool belt where I've got all my, everything else that I need.

KEVIN

Exactly.

CRAIG

Um, one of the other big things that I noticed about this one is the, the chuck on it actually has a more industrial feel than previous models that I've seen on Ryobi. Some of the other Ryobi models actually have like a rubber chuck on it, and this one's all metal.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and even the, um, the— I forget— the adjustment gauge for the, the drill power on this one actually has a little bit tougher feel on it than, than previous ones, but it also has like a, a smooth, uh, rotation to it on the, on the adjustment.

KEVIN

Yeah, so I, I've actually got 2 Ryobi drills. I've got the old blue one, and then I've got the newer one that's the kind of that yellow color, yellowish green.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, but interestingly enough, the, the chuck on it is completely stuck and I cannot disengage it.

CRAIG

Oh really?

KEVIN

So thankfully what I've got in there is, um, Oh, what's it called?

CRAIG

Like a bit receiver?

KEVIN

Yes, that thing.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Um, and so I'm able to still use it quite frequently, actually. I can't use it as a drill quite as much unless it's got one of those that's got the, the head on it. Um, but this one, you're right, the, the metal— the other ones are both plastic, and, and I do think that that could be one of, one of the reasons it just failed.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Uh, you know, you get plastic parts in there, they're, they're just not gonna last as long as the metal parts will.

CRAIG

Yeah. So basically with the drill, you've got your, you know, your, your lock, your, you know, your in and out feature on the, on the drill. You've got 22 speeds, uh, variable speed, and then a hammer option. Okay. As well as a, uh, power differentiation between 1 and 2. Okay. Um, and, uh, it's, it's for getting into smaller places. It's a much lighter drill. I haven't seen any power loss.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Uh, on, on this drill.

KEVIN

Even though it's smaller?

CRAIG

Even though it's smaller. Um, and, and again, that's, that's the whole— that was the whole point of this whole line coming out, is they're like, look, we've, we've got a compact version of our tools that use the same battery, um, that are are just as powerful.

KEVIN

Yeah, and so let's talk about that for a minute. And I do wanna come back to the design of this in a minute, but we're using the word brushless here. Are you aware of what that actually means?

CRAIG

I have no clue.

KEVIN

Okay, I would assume that a lot of people don't. I had to do some research on it myself because they're marketing this stuff as brushless these days.

CRAIG

It's a big deal in most tool lines right now.

KEVIN

Exactly, so they're coming out, hey, it's brushless. So basically, a brushless motor, um, it, it adjusts it— the, the speed, the, the torque, kind of, kind of the, the amount of power that it puts out to match whatever task you're doing. So it, it's almost intuitive. So, so it knows if you're driving screws into like a lighter material, like, like pine or something like that.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It knows that it does not have to work as hard.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

To do that. Um, if you're trying to put it into something that's, that's more dense, like, uh, maybe drywall or, you know, a really nice piece of wood like mahogany or something like that, it uses more power to do that. So the end result winds up being that it manages your battery better.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And so, um, it also manages its own internal systems a little bit better. So You're not straining all the time and you're not, or you don't get too much power or too little power. You get the right amount of power for the job that you're working on without having to do a lot of adjustment. So it's a more intuitive type of machine.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

So that's what brushless means. Now I do wanna go back to the design of that drill. It shocked me because both of my drills are very chuck heavy, like they're, They got the big chucks on them.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

And they got like a long nose almost. It's way out in the front of your hand. And because of that, once you put a bit in there or, you know, of some sort, you can't get into some tight spaces, right? This, a lot of it is, is back, uh, behind your hand, uh, like on, on top of where like your arm would be. And then the, the chuck area is not The nose is not that long.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, it's just really, really well designed and you can get in, like you said, tight spaces. Uh, you're gonna be able to find tight spaces a whole lot easier with that.

CRAIG

I, I, I will say if you're used to being able to stick the chuck into things, mm-hmm, you're not gonna be able to do that as well. Okay. Because I mean, like you're gonna be stopped basically because the, the, the chuck and the battery are almost, they almost end at exactly the same spot.

KEVIN

Okay. I can see that being an issue.

CRAIG

Um, and, and so that, that would probably be like my only critique is that you can't, there are some spaces that you can't get into. That being said, it's a lot easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

KEVIN

Yeah, but I would think, I mean, that's without a bit in.

CRAIG

Correct, yeah.

KEVIN

Once you put a bit in there—

CRAIG

And you can get like longer bit receivers.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

That, you know, to get into those kinds of spaces.

KEVIN

Yeah, so I mean, I think there's ways around it and I can see that as a con. Honestly, for me—

CRAIG

Not a big one. Not a big one. Not for me either. And like, That's an easy transition then, uh, to move on to the impact, um, which is this one.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, which if you look at it, the, the— you call it the chuck, I guess, but like the, the part that actually receives the, the bit, it's actually behind where the battery is.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

It's like you're not sticking that in anywhere.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Um, I mean, like it's just for driving screws.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

I mean, that's— and you know, it can drill, Too. I mean, like, it's really, really actually really good at drilling.

KEVIN

Yeah. So, so some drills are a hammer drill and an impact is going to be more like a hammer drill.

CRAIG

Correct.

KEVIN

Yeah. Than, you know, a lot of drills are kind of a 2-in-1 as far as that goes.

CRAIG

Yeah. And if you've, if you've never used an impact, I mean, like, one, if you're going to be screwing anything, I highly recommend it. Yeah. Um, just don't overdo it because why? It just goes in so much easier. It's faster.

KEVIN

Yeah. Because it does have that kind of that hammering effect.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Kind of Pulses, right?

CRAIG

For sure. Um, and also, like, if you're using, um, like a hole saw, it's really good with hole saws as well for the same reason. Yeah, it's just going to give you a smoother cut a lot quicker, uh, going, going through some denser pieces of wood.

KEVIN

Well, I think, I think like you, what you're saying there, the denser pieces of wood, there's more resistance. And again, with the pulsing action of the impact, it has more opportunity to kind of, to kind of back off and, and hit it again.

CRAIG

Yeah. So yeah, and so again, with this one, you've got the, you've got the LED that's on there as well. One of the other things that we haven't talked about yet is they actually did do some updates to the batteries.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and I don't know if this was— all the Ryobi stuff I've interacted before is a little bit dated, but anyway, uh, it actually has a power indicator LED on the front of the new batteries. And so you can actually see how charged the, uh, the batteries are, uh, and it actually uses that LED indicator when it's on the charger. So the charger no longer has to tell you whether or not the battery's charged. The LED indicator on the front of the battery will let you know.

KEVIN

That's awesome.

CRAIG

And it's just got a little button right there on the front. I don't know if you can see that. Yep. Um, that'll, that'll let you know. Cool. Um, and it kind of gives—

KEVIN

that's really helpful because it, it kind of lets you know when am I getting close to, to needing to change that battery out, right? Or not. And the great thing about lithium is they're, they're Uh, what do they call them? They run— they run until they're completely dead, right?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So, uh, it's almost like a run-flat tire, right? Yeah, it'll still keep going even though it's flat.

CRAIG

So, and this is, this is just a real simple tool, and, you know, forward, backward, lock in place.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

And then that, that just releases and, and locks the, uh, the bit into place, right? So other than that, it's a real simple tool, but super, super handy to have around if you don't have one.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So these 2 right here actually come in a set, and I think they're running for like $129 right now. Yeah, at least that was the price I saw at Home Depot last time. And it's not a bad deal because it's— you get both these tools and 2 batteries and the charger and a little carrying bag. And is that right, $129?

KEVIN

Well, I— it— that's probably right. I'm actually currently looking at the Ryobi website. Okay, it's more expensive. It shows $179.

CRAIG

Okay, but, um, that, that actually might be—

KEVIN

it may—

CRAIG

that may be accurate.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, it— the, the actual button you click on to buy it takes you to Home Depot's website. So, um, it is on Home Depot's website currently $179.

CRAIG

$179.

KEVIN

But again, you're getting, you're getting 2 tools, 2 batteries, right, and a carrying bag. And those batteries are probably each worth a minimum of $50, but just by them.

CRAIG

I think these new ones are selling for $59. Yeah, but again, I had the last number wrong. Well, there's a good chance I got that one wrong.

KEVIN

But either way, I mean, the, the batteries— again, we talked about this on, on episode 99, I think it was— the batteries are the most expensive part of the tool. Yes. You know, that's the— that's where all of the brains really are.

CRAIG

Well, and if you're interested in, in going this route, one with Ryobi, two with the, the HP brushless, and you just don't have any power tools yet, I definitely recommend getting the drill and the impact as a set because one, because I mean, you're getting 2 good tools, but you're also getting those 2 batteries.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And I say that because the 3 other tools that you can get in the HP Brushless series right now do not come with batteries.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And they're each $100 apiece.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So like just this saw alone with no battery was $100.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, um, but you know, you get the battery. But if you, but if you have it, if you're already invested in Ryobi and you, and honestly to me, this, this is the tool in the set.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Uh, the, the other tool, I don't, I don't really see the need for that 90-degree angle drill for me. I'm sure there's people out there that are like, are you crazy? I could use that thing all day long.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

I don't do what you do.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, but this one right here, Is by far the most interesting and cool tool that they— because they haven't had a saw like this before ever.

KEVIN

Um, and it's just not exactly like it, for sure.

CRAIG

It's just such a cool—

KEVIN

yeah, it's got a lot of power, y'all.

CRAIG

Well, it's got a lot of power, but like, it's not, it's not throwing my hand off at all.

KEVIN

Yeah, we were— okay, so that's actually one of the things we were talking about whenever we were, uh, I was telling testing it a couple of weeks ago, and I, I went from just, just holding it in my hand to full throttle, and my hand didn't jerk. It didn't move.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Which, you know, some people would say, oh well, it doesn't have a lot of power. Nope, it's just really weighted very, very well.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So, and that's a huge deal whenever it comes to tools. I mean, the, the thing that, that is going to be the dangerous part of a tool like this is if you slip or if you, you know, if you do something with it that it's not intended to do and you crush something with it because they're very powerful, having it weighted correctly, it really does make a big difference.

CRAIG

Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, like the, those older, uh, Sawzalls, it's kind of like getting on a bull. Yeah. I mean, you pull that trigger and it could go all over the place. I mean, like those, you, you have to— those saw blades are dangerous.

KEVIN

It's, it's definitely a rough cut saw.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You cannot— you can't cleanly cut through something with a Sawzall. It is something to simply cut something off with.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

With this one though, the way it's weighted and the, the smoothness of it— again, it's got that brushless motor, so it's gonna, it's gonna feel what you need.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know, if you— if it's cutting through something heavier, it's gonna use more power.

CRAIG

Um, vice versa.

KEVIN

So, you know, I, I think it, like you said, it's kind of a game changer whenever it comes to the way something's designed. I, I don't think there's another tool in its class, um, that could touch it.

CRAIG

Not, not at this price point, right? Uh, I mean, like Milwaukee makes one.

KEVIN

Is it? Yeah, but what, what kind of— I haven't looked at it, so some, you know, someone—

CRAIG

It's been around for a while.

KEVIN

But is it designed like this one is?

CRAIG

Similar.

KEVIN

It's weighted?

CRAIG

Similar, yeah. Um, uh, and, and I don't know if they had a patent on the design or what, but I mean, like, most people don't know that Ryobi and Milwaukee are the same company, so they probably just gave them access.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but, but yeah, so Milwaukee's had one for a while, and I think theirs is actually a little bit smaller.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and I'm trying to think if theirs is from the 18-volt or the 12-volt line. I don't remember. Um, I know, I know they have one in the 12-volt line.

KEVIN

Okay, so I'm, I'm actually looking at it right now and it is the 18, the M18.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And the design is almost identical. And, and again, like you said, same parent company.

CRAIG

Yeah. But I mean, you're going to pay a lot more for that Milwaukee one.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

The, the, now this one's $100. Yeah.

KEVIN

Milwaukee one I think is, well, I'm, uh, so I'm looking right now, the Milwaukee It's $159, but it shows it comes with a battery.

CRAIG

With a battery.

KEVIN

So, um, I, I can't find it. Oh yeah, here, tool only. Well, that's weird. Right there, tool only is $159. So either way, it's more expensive.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Than the Ryobi one is.

CRAIG

So, and that doesn't mean that it's not better. It could very well be better.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, I've, I've seen— I— the one I think I've seen used was actually the— from the 12-volt line.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Uh, and it worked great. What I've seen it used for that was a surprising use was for cutting PVC, like big pieces of PVC.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah.

CRAIG

And it was great for that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Especially if you're like kind of like a one-man operation, you need to cut.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, you know, like, because like, you know, there's, you can get those PVC cutters, but like they're made for like smaller pieces.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

You know, once you start getting like inch, inch and a half PVC, you need something a little more substantial. This really does the trick.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, you know, as well as you can, you know, you can use it to cut metal, you can use it to cut wood, you can— all kinds of stuff. Um, you just gotta have the right blade. Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, well, and, and whenever you come— whenever it comes to a reciprocating saw, again, you're not trying to get the finest cut, you're trying to cut something off, right? And a lot of times you're trying to do it in a, in a, in a position that's like, I need to get over that rafter into that thing. Yeah. And so being able to to do that with one hand safely, I, I just think it's a—

CRAIG

again, one hand is a game changer.

KEVIN

It's a big game changer.

CRAIG

Yeah. So, so I'm, I'm, I'm super stoked about giving it more field test. I mean, I've, I've used it to cut several things already and I'm—

KEVIN

I love it. Yeah, the other day, uh, we, we had a pretty, pretty good-sized limb fall, uh, with a storm that came through. I mean, it was probably I don't know, like 3, 4 inches in diameter. So it's a decent size. And man, like, I, I think my, my chainsaw is just biting the dust. It's a— it's an electric. It's just not that great. And when I say electric, not battery powered. It's cord powered.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Uh, which I— it's a decent one for— I mean, it was like the most expensive one with a cord that I could buy at the time. Uh, but Uh, as I was cutting it, I was like, man, I wish I had a reciprocating saw right now. Like, this would be perfect for cutting through something like that. And it probably— this thing would have just like completely chewed up the limb that I needed to chew up. So yeah, I wish I had it. I should have come over.

CRAIG

Yeah. So anyway, man, I mean, this, this— I mean, it's just not— there's not much else to say about it other than like, I'm excited about the direction Ryobi's going with this. I hope they come out with some more.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, well, I—

KEVIN

most likely they will. I mean, it— again, whenever it comes to technology, whenever you've got a technology that says, you know, something like the brushless, what it's doing, I mean, I think the price is just going to come down eventually.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Just keep coming down. And I mean, because you can pick up their regular reciprocating saw, just the normal Ryobi one reciprocating saw, for like It's like $49.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Super cheap.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, but it's not even close to what this one does.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

So I think they're just going to continue developing more and more and more. I mean, uh, you know, once, once they get that, that brushless motor into things like a lawnmower, you know, stuff like that— like, in fact, they've already got it. They've got their lawnmowers that are brushless. Yeah, it just makes so much sense. And it's one of the reasons why you can take something that's battery-powered and make it more powerful than something that's gas-powered.

CRAIG

Yeah, so, and more reliable.

KEVIN

More reliable and, and with less, less problems down the future, you know.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, I mean, like, and if you're, you know, someone who's, you know, trying to be conscientious about emissions and different things like that, I mean, like, there you go. Yep, man, I, I can't tell you the number of times I, I continue to, to see more and more homes using electric lawn equipment. And I remember, you know, that's 5 years ago, it was a joke.

KEVIN

Oh dude, if you— do you remember seeing people like drag a cord?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

And, and, and then you, you have that one neighbor that had, oh, check out my newest one, it's got a battery. Yeah, what's its runtime, man? I can get 22 minutes out of this thing. 22 minutes? Like, yeah, what, you like go around the perimeter and then like do the rest of it the next day?

CRAIG

I mean, Well, it would have been 22 minutes, but the dandelions were thick.

KEVIN

I should have done it a day earlier.

CRAIG

Yeah. Ah, so, but yeah, but now I mean, like, there's— they're neck and neck.

KEVIN

Yep. So I agree. And, and now they're, they're more expensive, but I'm not putting gas in that thing.

CRAIG

Well, yeah, I'm not putting— I mean, it's sort of like when you start doing the math on an electric car. I mean, like, yeah, they're more expensive up front, but over time you're spending a lot less money.

KEVIN

Yeah, and, and like you said, you're also— it's much better for the environment. It's not even close. Yeah, so I mean, I'm, I'm a huge fan of these. I'm, I'm excited you got them. I'm looking forward to trying them out myself.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like the, the story I was telling you earlier about putting the window in, I mean, that's what we used this afternoon to put the window in, was what we were like, hey, let's— well, and like, that was the other thing I was going to say is if you go get, um, Which is probably the most impressive part to me. When it says compact, I just assume it's just as heavy.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

Um, and so like, we actually had the old Ryobi impact up there with us.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I went and picked it up and I held it. You know, we had batteries in both of them, same size batteries. And I was like, good Lord, this thing is so light.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And like does the same job.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Uh, you know, maybe a little bit better. Uh, just one, because it's just, it's easier to maneuver. It's easier to hold in my hand. I mean, I was literally hanging it out there the side of a building, screwing a window in.

KEVIN

And you got fatigue that goes along with that sometimes. And, you know, whenever you're doing that time after time after time, the fatigue really, you know, plays a factor.

CRAIG

Yeah, for sure.

KEVIN

And, and I'll tell you, the other thing is like my wife has told me before, she was like, I can't really work those tools, they're too heavy.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know, this is a step in the right direction for sure for her, you know.

CRAIG

Yeah. And, you know, it's one, you don't have to have as big a tool case to carry them around in, right? If you do put them all in a bag, it's not gonna be as heavy, right? Um, the batteries are the same way, but the batteries the batteries, right? So you're not going to be able to get around that. Sure. So all in all, man, like, this 2 thumbs up for me. I mean, like, if you need— you know, if you have a good set and you're happy with them, great. But like, if you're looking to invest in like some new ones, you want to check something out, these are going to be a good option for you. One, they're going to be— they're going to

CRAIG

be friendly to your budget, but they're also going to perform well. Yeah. Um, now longevity, I don't know, just got them.

KEVIN

Yeah, we'll see.

CRAIG

Um, and this is a— this is a new product, a new line, you know, and you, you know, you sort of— you do take a risk by, you know, stepping out on the razor's edge with a new product. But, you know, companies like this have been around long enough, they're going to test their products, right, and make sure that they're going to, you know, go the distance.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, and if they don't, you know, well, that happens from time to time.

KEVIN

Yeah, I really don't see that being the case with these right now.

CRAIG

I mean, well, and I, I get the, I get the sense from a lot of guys that don't like a specific tool line, like they probably had one that went down.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And I've just never been in the mindset of like, well, that one broke, so that means all the rest of them are crap.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's just never been true, right? You know, and it's like I'm always willing to give them another go.

KEVIN

Well, and, and with the number of things that Ryobi has, yeah, I mean, something's gonna go down. Yeah. What did you send me the other day that you were like, they even have that?

CRAIG

Uh, one of them I sent you was a Bluetooth Pool light show.

KEVIN

I was like, what?

CRAIG

It's like, that's not even a tool, right? I mean, like, I guess technically it falls in there because like there's a job site radio. I guess if your job site's in the pool and you really need like an LED colored light show underneath the water.

KEVIN

Yeah, because it's waterproof on top of that. This was—

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, but it uses the OnePlus battery, right? It was—

KEVIN

what?

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. And so like, it was like, they make that? Yeah, I've sent you some crazy stuff. I can't remember all of them though. Like, anytime I find one, I always send it to Kevin.

KEVIN

Yeah. Did I tell you that I, that I bought the air compressor?

CRAIG

Oh, did you?

KEVIN

After, after we were talking about it.

CRAIG

I need to borrow that, by the way.

KEVIN

Air pump tool.

CRAIG

Is it, is it for pumping up tires or is there—

KEVIN

It'll, it'll do whatever.

CRAIG

I need to borrow that.

KEVIN

Like, I just, you know, I bought that Excursion and, uh, the, the tires were low.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, they were like, I don't know, I think they were like 35 pounds of pressure and they needed to be like 50. And so I started pumping it up and it Pumped them up. Now, it— once it got to like 42, 43, but that— now it's got a digital readout on it, so it'll tell you exactly how many pounds of pressure you have in it. It started to be like, look, dude, you got almost 45 pounds of pressure, that's probably enough. But like, but it's also— it's got a built-in, a place to, to put like a, a ball, a ball needle.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And then one of those—

CRAIG

It doesn't come with one?

KEVIN

No, it does.

CRAIG

Oh, it does come with one.

KEVIN

It comes with that, and it comes with one of the the, uh, the nozzles for like if you're airing up, I don't know, like a pool float or something. Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

It's got that nozzle and both of them snap in. And so they're, they're secured in there.

CRAIG

That's so cool.

KEVIN

It's, man, it's just like—

CRAIG

How much was that thing?

KEVIN

Like $25.

CRAIG

Who doesn't need that?

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

I need that right now.

KEVIN

You're going to spend— if let's say you need a bike pump, you're probably going to spend at least $10 on that.

CRAIG

Man, any, any dad out there that has ever blown up some goofy pool toy—

KEVIN

Exactly.

CRAIG

I've done that before and like I feel like I've been punched in the mouth by Rocky Balboa.

KEVIN

Well, and—

CRAIG

My cheeks—

KEVIN

You're right.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, and you probably look like it too.

CRAIG

And it would be an improvement.

KEVIN

But like even— I even think of like, uh, like air mattresses. Like, I mean, you got to be next to a plug to air those things up because, you know, if you buy one of those portable, you know, plugs, you know, that Anyway, this would— it would do the job. They—

CRAIG

so, and they have— they have another one for those kinds of things too.

KEVIN

They do, they do.

CRAIG

Um, it's a different kind of inflator.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's actually, um, it's like an air gun or something. It's actually less expensive than that. I think it's like $20 instead of $25.

CRAIG

I gotta go get one of those.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's awesome. I'm not gonna lie, it's awesome.

CRAIG

I've got— I've got a trailer out in the pasture that the tires are down. It's like, I don't want to drag the air compressor out there.

KEVIN

Hey, just—

CRAIG

I'll let you borrow it.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

I mean, I just need to get off my lazy butt and go get one myself.

KEVIN

But $25, man.

CRAIG

But you have one.

KEVIN

You, you wasted $25 today, probably.

CRAIG

Sure, totally possible. Yeah, I'll let you know how that investment turns out.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, dude, um, what, what did we not talk about that we need to? Anything?

CRAIG

I, I mean, I, I think we brought up like one downside to these, to these tools. Um, I mean, and really the only downside to it is they're a little, you know, stubby on the nose end, right?

KEVIN

And, um, and honestly, that may be really good.

CRAIG

You know, here's, here's one. If you're really like ham-fisted, uh, like you might, you might inadvertently cover up that LED. Okay. But I mean, like, there's— I mean, the, the number of guys out there that have like that size of a hand, yeah, are far and few between, honestly. I mean, I don't have massive hands but my finger's a good ways away from that light.

KEVIN

Did you just say far and few between?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay. I've always said few and far between.

CRAIG

Far and few between. Anyway—

KEVIN

I'm just saying.

CRAIG

No, I'm there. It's right.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

I've just never said it that way. That's okay. We're from Texas so we're both right.

CRAIG

That's right. Till you provide me with evidence otherwise.

KEVIN

And it better be pretty good evidence.

CRAIG

It does have to be really good evidence.

KEVIN

All right, man. Well, listen, thanks for buying this so that we can check it out. Of course.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, I needed it. Yeah, you needed it. But so lucky for you guys. That's right. That's right. Anything else?

KEVIN

And I think that's about it. Uh, it's a short episode today, but I think it was good.

CRAIG

Hopefully it's funny these days when we're saying like short episodes, 40 I know, I know. That's because Mel and Christy took us 2 hours.

KEVIN

Yeah, we did. Between them and TACUS, you know, 4 episodes that took us 4 hours to do.

CRAIG

Kevin, we're just that interesting to talk to, I guess. Yeah, I guess so.

KEVIN

We fool a lot of people, which is good. But anyway, on that note, thanks for downloading this episode.

CRAIG

We're glad— But not you, not you, loyal listener.

KEVIN

Yeah, you're, you're not the fool. You're so smart and loving and caring. We're so glad you're here with us.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Uh, but yeah, thanks for downloading. We hope you enjoyed the episode. Uh, feel free to give us a like, feel free to, uh, you know, subscribe, all of those things. Leave us a rating review. We would love that. And we're here every Tuesday. So thanks for being with us. Until next time, we'll see you later. See ya!

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