That Time We Talked About Power Tools

This is episode number 99 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're a DIYer looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

Hello, hello, hello, all of my young Homeowner Show friends. I'm glad that you could be with us on this excursion. And I just slapped the table again with my ring. Dadgummit.

What I want to know is, is how you know all of these people are young.

Yeah, well, we— I mean, like, we, we have a very hip crowd here at the Homeowner Show, so I think that, you know, necessarily implies that they're young. And if they're not, like, you know, physically young, they're probably young in spirit.

Young at heart, for sure. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Um, you know, they're out there skinny dipping and, um, what do young people do these days?

Well, I'll tell you this, if you have a pool Yeah, you're probably in it right now. It is so hot, dude.

I took a picture today of the thermostat in my truck. Yeah, 106 degrees.

Oh my goodness. And, and, and I had to peel the skin off the steering wheel. Yeah. And, and here in Houston, like, I, I know my friends in West Texas, for example, they're going 106, it was 113 up here. And I'm like, yeah, but your humidity was like 4. Yeah, mine is like 50.

Yeah.

So That's, that's only because it's hot enough.

Talk to me when you get some water, West Texas.

Yeah, I mean, that, that, that is actually a pretty low humidity for around here because it's so hot. Yeah, the humidity is actually burned off a little bit.

Yeah, it's—

but it's hot.

It's really hot. So yeah, it's absolutely nuts.

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We, we're trying to upload multiple times during the week. A lot of times we're taking a clip and we're, you know, pulling it out and just saying, hey, this is kind of a funny thing that happened on the show.

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Yeah.

Uh, so we've got a, uh, we've got a tool review coming up for the Ryobi, uh, nail gun. We've got a battery contest that's gonna be coming up. Um, which I think we're gonna get into here in just a little bit. We're gonna talk about some batteries.

That's right.

Um, so there, there's gonna be some content up on the YouTube channel you're not gonna wanna miss. And the reason we're doing it there is cuz we really can't do some of that stuff just audio. And so we wanted to be able to open it up to, to do some different things that we haven't been able to do thus far with just the podcast.

You, you remember that time when we did an unboxing? Well, one of the things we actually talked about doing today is reminiscing on our last 99 episodes, or 98 episodes.

What was it that we tried to unbox?

It was the Amazon subwoofer thing. Oh, it was the— yeah. And it was—

We forgot to turn the camera on or something, didn't we?

We forgot to turn the camera on. So I'm not joking. I'm sitting here unboxing this thing. I'm talking about it, and I've got it picked up, and I'm like— He's being very showy.

Animated with it too.

Showing it to the camera, I'm like turning it around, I'm like, ooh, open it up. And, um, we get done with it and I'm like, hey Craig, um, I got good news and bad news. And he's like, what's that? And I said, well, the good news is I think that was a pretty good episode. Like, we, we did a pretty good job on that. And, uh, he's like, okay, what's the bad news? I never pressed the play button on the camera. So, uh, you know, Hey, live and learn, figure some things out. And, uh, that's kind of where we're at right now, but we figured quite a bit out and we're trying to push some more content for you, um, to give you some, some better information.

Absolutely. And, and, and also just in, in and all that, we appreciate you guys, which is why we're doing this $100 giveaway. We want to, want to, you know, bless one of you with $100 to go, you know, knock out a DIY project or maybe, you know, put that towards a, you know, a good contractor or something like that that you're trying to bring in your house to finish a project that maybe you've walked away from.

Yeah.

Um, but, uh, yeah, we wanna, we wanna, we want you guys to celebrate with us because we're excited. I mean, like, it's— we didn't feel like we would ever make it to 100 episodes.

No, I mean, when you think about it, uh, one week, 200 episodes, or 100 episodes, we're talking almost 2 years.

Almost 2 years.

Almost 2 full years.

Like, 4 episodes after we do 100, it'll be 2 years, right? Yeah.

of, of content every single week.

Yeah.

So that's where we're at. We're pretty excited about it.

And not only did we not think that we would make it to 100, we didn't think that we would have stuff to talk about after that. But we, like, already we have stuff in the pipeline that, like, we're still excited about talking about.

Yeah.

And, and having people in, especially with all this COVID stuff going on, because it's, it's really changed Homeownership radically.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, people are having to look at their homes in different ways. Um, you know, it, it, you're living in your home, living and working in your home is just a whole different environment. And, and now, you know, like we're, we've got some, some episodes coming up. Hopefully we've got some, we've got some guests that, you know, haven't, haven't quite signed on the line yet. So we're, we're ex— we're excited to bring them to you if we can get them to agree to come in. Um, but talking about education stuff.

Yeah.

and how potentially your home is now going to be a public school.

Sure. I mean, for the first time that I know of, we're gonna have this option to learn from home. And not only that, we've got more people working— their business has said, we're not coming back. Maybe ever, but for sure, a lot of them have already said through the end of the year. I mean, so here we are, we're in the middle of July, so thinking about coming back to your office through the end of the 2020 year, I mean, your home suddenly becomes a completely different place for you.

Yeah.

So yeah, we got a lot of content to kind of dive into with all that.

I'm actually curious with the whole virtual school, public school at home.

Yeah.

So will they be allowed to pray there?

Hmm, I think the answer is yes.

Yeah, you think so? I mean, who's gonna stop them? I mean, Big Brother's gonna reach through and try and shut that down for sure.

Yeah.

No, no Jesus at home because that's where school is now.

Sure.

Maybe it'll just be between the hours of 8 and 5.

Yeah, as long as you start your day with zero hour.

Okay.

At home, you know, you pray during zero hour, then you're good.

All right, okay.

Yeah.

Homeroom.

But also, yeah, also if you like close your eyes, then you— nobody can see you.

Uh-huh.

And so therefore you can pray during that time as well.

Just duck your head out of the Zoom call. Yeah, exactly. You can do it, just don't let anybody see you.

Right.

All right, cool. Fair enough.

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That's massive. So yeah, I don't think I've ever met 10,000 people.

I know I hadn't. I don't— I guarantee I don't like 10,000 people.

Well, like, I'll tell you, I was crunching the numbers today, Kevin. Actually, if we, if we fold in The views from YouTube with the podcast downloads, we're already at 10,000.

Oh, boom! Celebration! Where are the, you know, confetti streamers, all that? I'm gonna overlay that on the video right here. Some like confetti like flying down over your and my faces here.

But like we made a goal of 10K by 100 on the actual podcast, the audio podcast. Yeah. So, uh, but, and if you guys are listening to this, um, know that you can get that podcast Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, right? What's the other one? Spotify. Spotify. Yeah, it's on Spotify as well. Yeah. Um, we have not gotten the Pandora approval yet.

That, that takes some time.

It's a Wile E. Coyote over there.

Yes, it is.

So we'll get there though.

That's right. Well, listen, we have got a, what we hope is a fun episode.

It's full of controversy, speculation, conspiracy theories.

That's right. Yeah, so we, we put up a, uh, a post about a week and a half ago at this point about various cordless, uh, power tools.

Yeah.

And asking people, which one is your go-to? You know, which one do you, do you like the most? And the 4 options were Do you remember what they are?

Uh, we had DeWalt.

Yep.

We had Milwaukee.

Uh-huh.

We had Ryobi.

Yep.

And we had Ridgid.

That's right. So we had these 4, and we had a couple people— first of all, we had a lot of engagement on that, which is really awesome. Thank you for engaging with that. But some really strong opinions. We had a couple people throw out like Craftsman.

Yeah.

Porter-Cable, Makita.

I had that one— I know it was the— I forget the brand, but that one guy that was like Where's the love for Harbor Freight?

Yeah, I think I saw one on there was like Black Decker. I'm like, gosh, okay.

I mean, well, so, so honorable mentions, because people— there were, there were several brands in that post, and I want to mention this because, I mean, like, I think we've had like over 50,000 people engage with that post.

Yeah, it was nuts.

It's been incredible. People are very opinionated about their tools.

Yeah.

Um, so Makita was a big one. that kept coming up. Yep. Uh, is it, is it, um, Hitachi?

Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah, Hitachi.

Is it Hilti is the other one?

Yeah. Well, Hilti is like, it's, it's like the, the Lamborghini, right? I mean, it supposedly it's, uh, really high end, right?

So that, that came up. Uh, Craftsman came up. Porter-Cable came up. I'm trying to think of some of the other ones that we You know, and it's not that— it's not like we don't think that those are good tools.

It just— it wasn't in the meme.

We literally went— yeah, we— the pictures were similar. It was just convenient. It was a convenient post, folks. I mean, honestly, I'll probably do another one with the brands that people mentioned. Sure. And then we'll, you know, probably take like the top 3 and see who actually wins. We actually need to— we need to Tally. We need it. Yeah, we need an official tally.

Yeah.

Um, and but well, I'll say this, um, just based off what I saw, uh, it's gonna come down to between Milwaukee and DeWalt.

There is no doubt on that.

There's—

there was, there was a lot of people that had a lot of horrible things to say about Ryobi.

Yes.

And RIDGID was kind of like— it is interesting with RIDGID because RIDGID has something going for them.

They do.

I did not realize.

Their people are very big fans, and for— I mean, like, according to them, for very good reasons. Yeah, I've never had— I, I actually do have some RIDGID power tools, and they're good tools.

Do you know what— do you know what their big selling point on those is?

The warranty.

The warranty is insane. Yeah, the warranty is a lifetime warranty.

That's like apparently like no questions asked, right? I mean, like And well, and what a couple people were giving as a caveat was like, as long as you register, you just have to register the tools and the batteries. And as long as you do that, you should be in good shape because they're going to honor the warranty.

Yeah.

Like that kept— that came up over and it wasn't just because here's the thing. If you guys go and find the post, it was like A, B, C, or D. It was really easy to respond to this post. Like, which one's your favorite? A, B, C, or D? And RIDGID was A. And like without fail, the people that picked A always felt obligated to write a sentence or two With that that said, A, because they have the frickin' best warranty ever.

Yep.

And some people went on to write like a paragraph.

Sure.

So like RIDGID has done a really good job of developing some customer loyalty and customer service. And that was a theme that came up over and over and over again. The people that like Milwaukee and DeWalt almost seemed like they were in cults.

Yeah.

And because it was unwavering in like, it wasn't like even a question of like, these don't even like come close. They don't hold water. But they had no reason. So I, I, well, I saw some people put some reasons. Some people with the DeWalts and the Milwaukee's like, I've dropped it in a pit of mud and I've dropped it off the side of a house and it still kept working and all this kind of stuff. But like nobody was writing the kinds of things that people were writing about the Ridgid system, right?

No, no, they definitely were. And, and specifically with DeWalt, they were talking about its durability. Yes, that was really where that went. Milwaukee, we got a lot of comments on just the, uh, the, the overall performance.

Yes.

And the quality of that tool.

Yeah.

Um, Ryobi is funny because a lot of people were saying everything from Ryobi is horrible, like the worst ever, to it's great for DIYers.

Yeah.

And, and really everywhere in between was kind of where we landed on that.

That seemed to be an overarching theme with them as well, is like, look, if you're not using this every single day, Ryobi is the way to go.

Yeah, and, and they have something going for them.

Oh, for sure.

And, and that's their product line. There, there's not another product.

Yeah.

Not another company in, in this conversation that has the sheer number of tools available.

Yeah, and well, that, that is absolutely true. But here's the thing is, I, I actually reached out to Ryobi because there was several tools that they have in their— is it ONE+?

Is that the— Uh-huh.

Yeah, they have several tools in the ONE+ line that are just extremely intriguing. Yeah, um, very unique tools. Nobody else has tools like these. Um, and, and so I reached out to Ryobi because none of my local vendors are carrying those tools. And so I reached out to them and I was like, hey, you know, this is Craig. We at The Homeowner Show, we, you know, we do this podcast. You guys have some very unique tools. I can't really seem to find them. Can you guys help point me in the direction? Um, and they responded with, we're not really looking to sponsor a show right now. And I was like, well, listen, dummy, I'm not asking you to sponsor the show. I'm looking for some

tools that you guys have, right, that are unique, and I'd love to review them, um, and, and, and, and kind of show them off to the— to our audience because they're interesting. I want to see, you know, how they work and all this kind of stuff. And they basically responded with, well, that's just something that we've we don't really distribute that.

Interesting.

One of the ones I asked about, they actually said— it was a tool that they have listed on their website, which is their garage door opener, which they said they discontinued.

Why? I don't know.

My guess is, it didn't sell.

That has to be the reason. But that thing looked absolutely amazing. If you've not seen it, they're talking about how quiet it is, first of all. It's a big deal with garage door openers in general. Like, the, the loudness of that thing, um, is important. And it's like one of those deals where it's like, oh, honey's home, I hear the garage door open, you know. Um, but, but this one specifically—

And it was Wi-Fi enabled.

Yeah, it was Wi-Fi enabled.

It was a smart garage door opener.

Um, but you— there were 2 other things that were amazing about it. One of them is you could put one of the OnePlus batteries on it.

Yep.

And if you have a power outage, you've got, you've got power, right? And it charges— it's a charger as well. Yeah.

So like if there was power, it would charge the battery.

Yeah, exactly. And then there's also all these accessories.

Dude, it had the coolest accessories.

Yeah, like what were some of those?

So it had, uh, it had a laser-guided parking system, right? So it was like basically 2 lasers that would come out the back end of the garage door opener and would shoot lasers down on the ground so you would know where to park your car, right? Um, it also had an air compressor attachment where you could basically use air tools and fill up the tires on your car. It had a fan attachment. It had a Bluetooth speaker attachment. Um, I'm trying to think of something else.

There was a light.

It had a motion sensor. It had a light. Um, and then on top of that, it wasn't just Wi-Fi enabled. Um, it was, uh, well, it was— so it was— it had 2 functions on the Wi-Fi. One, you could get an app for your phone So that you could remotely open the door with your phone. But also, it had wireless keypads that you could get with it, as well. You could have a code for the exterior with a wireless keypad. You wouldn't have to run wires. You could have as many of those buttons and keypads and all that kind of stuff for garage door openers.

Cool!

No wires.

Yeah.

It was really cool. I asked them about it, and they're like, no, we just discontinued that. But they're still selling a lot of the accessories for it.

Interesting!

They're selling some of the accessories for it because I think you can power some of those with their battery. The other one that I asked them about, which they said that they have, they just don't distribute it, was a garage sweeper.

A garage sweeper?

Yes. I think probably the best way to conceptualize this, or to describe it over the audio, is think of it as a lawnmower for your garage.

That's an electric broom. OK, kind of like a Roomba?

Kind of like a Roomba, but you push it around.

Oh!

It's like a sweeper/vacuum cleaner kind of a deal. It's got a lawnmower handle on it, but you slap one of those OnePlus batteries in it, and it sweeps the floor and sucks up all the dirt. Then, it's got a tank on the back that you take off and dump in the trash. You can clean your garage that way. It's really cool-looking. But they have, they have so many tools like that. And so like, once I was in communication with them and they started telling me that, I was like, well, how many of these? Because if you go to Home Depot, which I think Ryobi's only at Home Depot.

They are, correct.

If you go to Home Depot, I mean, like, they have way more Ryobi tools in that line than they do in any other one. Milwaukee might have just as many.

It depends.

In the store.

It depends on the store. So like, for example, the, the Home Depot that you and I would go to in our area, Milwaukee, it is the primary Milwaukee distributor for the Houston area. So in all of Houston, this one has the largest selection of Milwaukee tools available.

So, and I, and I think, and I, I know for certain that Ryobi and Milwaukee are the same company.

Yeah.

I think RIDGID is also in that, in that group as well.

Okay.

I may be wrong, but I know for certain that Milwaukee and Ryobi are the same company. Yeah. Um, and, and so they have kind of traveled similar paths on this whole tool system. The big difference would be that Ryobi has invested a little bit more into the lawn equipment.

Mm-hmm.

And because of that, they have a whole separate battery system for the lawn equipment. So they've, I think it's a 40-volt battery for their weed trimmer. Their blower, lawnmower, and the— well, and I think the push mower. Yes. But then they also have the zero-turn, which has its own dedicated battery, right? I mean, you kind of charge that thing like you would a Tesla.

Yeah. And so let's talk about that for a minute. So one of the things that really separates all of these is battery. In fact, the most expensive part of the entire thing, of the entire tool, is the battery.

In some cases. In other cases, no. I mean, like, you, you're right. For the most part, yeah, the battery is the most expensive part. Some of the Milwaukee tools you get into, like, like the jackhammer, for instance, that standalone tool I think is like $400 or $500.

Sure. But what, from what I understand, um, and I've got an inside source who's told me this, the battery is the most expensive tool to— the most expensive part of the tool to create. Oh, that would—

I— that I would—

yeah. So, for example, and now, and I'm sure, you know, with these zero-turns and all that kind of— once you start getting into some of these tools, the parts are more expensive, most likely. However, the batteries are the primary working part of that tool, okay? It's the most important thing, which is why that we've gone away from these NiCad uh, batteries to the lithium-ion batteries because these lithium-ion batteries, they're just a lot more efficient. And so there's a couple of things that I think we should probably talk about when it comes to what makes up a battery.

Okay.

Um, so for example, um, when you buy— when let's say you go to Home Depot, you're looking at the Milwaukee One of the things that you're gonna find with that battery is that it works on every single one of their tools.

Right.

They've got an 18-volt battery and it works for every single one of their tools. That's whether it's a drill, yeah, or a flashlight or their trimmer.

And that seems to be their flag on the hill. I mean, that's, that's the hill they want to die on, is—

and good for them, man.

I think it's a smart play. that every single thing that we come out with, this battery can plug into and power.

Yeah, absolutely. And, and when you think about it, one of the things you really have to make a determination on whenever it comes to buying a start— let's say I need to go buy a drill. I don't have any tools. I need to buy a drill. You have to kind of think to yourself, what line do I want, right? What, what I'm starting here on a line, and once I start, I'm gonna have to completely shift if I want to go a different route.

For sure.

So if you start with Milwaukee, you're kind of set with Milwaukee. Um, so what they've done that's really smart is they've said, listen, this battery is going to work for all of our hand tools, and it's going to work for all of our lawn tools. And And that includes their chainsaw.

Yeah.

That includes their jackhammer. That includes their trimmer. That includes their blower. That includes all of those things, as well as their flashlight.

And their miter saw.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, like, that's, that's a, that's a crazy one to me. Like that, that big bench tool.

Yeah.

And does— will it work on just one or does it take 2?

It works one.

One.

I will say that Ryobi also has—

They do have one of those.

A compound, a compound miter saw as well. Um, but it uses 2 batteries.

Yes.

They're still— they're 18-volt batteries, but, uh, or are they 20-volt?

Those are 20-volt.

Yeah, they're 20-volt. The Ryobis are the 20-volt batteries, but it takes 2 of them. But still, what you're finding is that these companies are finding a way to extend their line out. Yeah, but there's 2— there's 2 primary things you need to understand about a battery, and one of them is voltage. So we just talked about that, uh, that Milwaukee has an 18-volt battery, Ryobi has a 20-volt battery. We've talked, uh, in other episodes about my EGO trimmer, right? EGO is a 56-volt battery.

Oh, is it really? I thought it was lower than that.

No, it's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty amazing how many volts that thing carries. What does that even mean, though?

Don't stick your tongue on it.

Think about that for a minute. You've got AA, AAA batteries. You've got a 9-volt battery, a 6-volt battery, all these sorts of things. I remember growing up, it was like, how do you test a 9-volt battery? Put it on your tongue, right? Got a little shock, or you didn't? Which one? Um, but voltage simply means how much strength or, or how much power that battery can provide.

Right.

Okay, so it's sheer power. So there's another thing that you're going to read on these batteries, and it's amp-hours. So a lot of times it's a, it's a big A and a little h. So you've got amp-hours, um, and basically that means how much fuel or how much charge that battery can store. Okay, so if, for example, you have a battery that's a 2 amp-hour battery, it's still an 18-volt battery. It's still going to produce 18 volts if you pull the trigger on a, on a drill, for example, pull the trigger and hold it down continuously. A 2 amp-hour battery is probably going to give you full power full 18 volts for about 1 hour. Okay, okay. If you

go up to a 4 amp-hour battery, you're gonna get about 2 hours out of that battery.

Uh, some equation developing.

Yeah, exactly. Some of these, uh, batteries are providing like a 9.5, 10 amp-hour battery, and so it's kind of amazing. For example, with those EGOs, you're getting 56 volts and they've got a 7.5 amp-hour battery. Okay, they've got a 2.5 amp-hour battery. It's the same battery as far as how much voltage you're getting out of it. You're getting the same amount of power, you're just getting a different—

More or less time.

More or less time. How big is the tank, for example? Right. So it's kind of the way that works. And, and so you, you kind of have to look at some of these batteries and you're going, oh man, I can buy that battery, it's only, it's only $65. Or that battery, for some reason that one's $95. That's what's— what's the difference?

Well, and so one of the things that I, I mean, like, we all recognize about batteries is that over time they degrade.

They do.

And so my— I guess my— and like, you may, may or may not have looked into this, but I mean, do you know if when batteries have a longer amp-hour, do they degrade at the same—

So that's a really— that's really Tough thing to answer, um, because these newer batteries are smarter. So for example, I know with the EGO, for example, when it goes dormant, so to speak, it goes into what it— what they call like a self-discharge. And so it will lower itself to a healthy place to maintain its life. Mm-hmm.

Okay.

So, you know, if you're going to use a battery, you want it to be at 100% whenever you start using it. But there comes a point when you get below a certain threshold, a certain percentage left of that battery's power, or amp-hours is probably the better way to say that. Once you— once it's got less fuel in the tank, so to speak.

Yeah.

Um, it If you leave it down there, it can die. And when it dies, you have to charge it back up, otherwise it could stay dead.

Okay.

That being said, um, most batteries have a threshold somewhere around 30% that if you're not using it, for example through the winter and you've got a lawn tool, you're not using it, um, you can leave it on the charger. with a lot of these batteries, leave it on the charger through the duration and it will keep itself at 30%.

Okay.

Now if you want to get it back up to 100%, you take it off the charger, put it back on, put it back on the charger, and it'll charge itself back up. But then if you don't take it off, it'll self-discharge down to whatever that threshold is that they've pre-programmed into that battery, and it'll stay there to keep it from going dead on you.

Okay.

It's kind of like a trickle charger. Yeah, in some ways, you know, trickle charger really is, is helpful, uh, for, for batteries that you're not going to use, you know.

This actually sounds very similar. I was talking to, um, and do you remember, uh, Jordan, our guest, about— he developed his own smart pool system.

Oh yeah.

Yeah. So he got a Tesla. So, and he's probably gonna geek out that we're even talking because he listens to the show all the time. Uh, and he was, he was telling me something similar that you almost never want to have your Tesla fully charged.

Oh, really?

Yeah. They tell you that in order to keep the health of the battery. If I'm getting this wrong, Jordan, send me a message. I'll correct myself. I think I remember this from our conversation. He was saying you almost never want to have it fully charged. You can get it fully charged if you're fixing to go on a long trip. But most of the time, you want to keep it around 80%. It's just healthier for the battery. But that's just part of the battery technology, like what you're talking about, the smart batteries that they've developed. I don't know what kind of batteries they're putting in Teslas. They're very sophisticated.

Yes, they are.

That I don't understand. I'm lucky to get the terminals right.

I think that all of this just plays into when you're choosing a line, Yeah, of battery or of battery-powered tools, picking which battery you're going to go with makes a big difference. Yeah, it's one of the reasons Milwaukee is so great, because for example, if you choose to buy one of their lawn tools, you don't have to buy a different battery. You can use whatever battery you took off of your drill.

Now let's, let's just think, because I think this is an interesting point of distinction, because Because one of the reasons that Ryobi, when they went into the lawn tool, developed a whole new battery is because they needed one that had a little bit more oomph to it in order to do like a push mower.

Right. Right.

And so you can use, and I can't remember what the voltage is, I wanna say it's like 42 or something like that. Well, it's some, it's some weird number, uh, for their lawn equipment.

Okay.

Right. Milwaukee does not have a push mower.

Not right now.

So there's, there's a certain threshold that they said like, look, here's the line we can't cross just yet, but we can do all the rest of these tools.

Right.

So while Ryobi decided, you know, like, we're going to use the same battery for our mower, our blower, and our trimmers, uh, Milwaukee said, well, look, we just, we just won't develop a line that requires that kind of power like a push mower, so we'll go ahead and just do everything else. So they did the trimmer and the blower and, and pretty much all the other yard tools—

sands, mower, right?

And you can use that same battery. Yeah.

What's really interesting though— I mean, this is really interesting— when I was doing my research on the trimmer that I purchased, the 2 that I landed on that I was back and forth on which one I liked more than the other, yeah, was the Milwaukee and the EGO. Yeah, both of them had the best performance in that class of tools.

Yeah.

And one of them is using an 18-volt battery and one of them is using a 56-volt battery.

Right.

And we're talking about these batteries are not comparable.

No.

Obviously, the difference in 18 and 56 is a huge amount of difference in how much power that battery produces.

Yeah.

It doesn't mean that it, that it's, it's going to run longer. I mean, it could run the same amount of time as an 18-volt battery. But it's got more power, right? But the way that Milwaukee has torqued their tools, they have given it an ability to spin, you know, whatever rate it spins at. You know, if it's a trimmer, for example, they figured out a way to make that tool extremely powerful with only 18 volts.

Yeah. Well, and like, I know I was telling you this earlier, I think I'm thinking about actually moving over to Milwaukee right now.

Yeah. Yeah.

Um, and, and not because of the trimmer or anything like that. I mean, like, I'm, I'm, I, if I do, I'll probably end up getting one. Um, just why not?

Yeah.

Uh, at that point, because if you're, if you're dug in like a tick, just go ahead and go all the way.

Yeah.

But one of the, like, they have come out, they're the, they have probably the most innovative electric sprayer. Um, which may not be a big deal to a whole lot of people. I use a sprayer pretty much every day.

Right.

Um, and have, have you looked at this sprayer? I have not. So, so Ryobi also has an electric sprayer. Um, and I don't think DeWalt has one. I'm pretty sure RIDGID doesn't have one. The only 2 that I've found in their lawn equipment thus far, uh, would be Milwaukee and Ryobi. I'd be interested to see if EGO came out with one.

I don't think they have one right now.

So if you're listening out there, EGO, let me, let me, let me know, cuz I, I'd probably be a fan. I like your stuff so far. Yeah. Um, but this, this Milwaukee one, here's what's cool about this one. One, it uses the 18-volt fuel battery.

Yep.

Um, 2, it's electric, which means I don't have to pump it up. 2 and 3, it has 2 chemical tanks that are interchangeable.

What?

So you can have 2 different chemicals mixed up in 2 different tanks.

On your back?

Well, not at the same time. Okay, so I can have this one over here that's like an herbicide and this one over here that's a pesticide, and depending what I need to do, I can just change those tanks out.

Oh nice.

Or, you know, you could, you know, like just, you know, have double mix of whatever you need, and when that one runs out, you just pump pack that one on there so you're not having to like constantly go back and forth. So you have a lot of options there.

Can you buy extra tanks?

I would imagine so.

So I mean Because it looks like, um, if you could do that, you just buy extra tanks and you could have a slew of those on your truck.

Yeah. And just label them, you know, get your stuff, you know, ready to go for the day and just head out and make sure you got plenty of batteries.

Cool. Well, and, and not only that, one of the things you were telling me that is so impressive about this sprayer specifically from Milwaukee is There's a 5-mode pressure adjustment knob.

Yeah.

That adjusts the, uh, the pressure between 20 and 100 PSI.

Yeah.

And, and for you, that's huge, isn't it?

That's massive.

I mean, yeah. Why is that important?

Uh, because you need lots of different options because, at least in our business, I mean, like you, you have to be able to reach high places. You have to be able to, you know, well, not, it's not just the pressure either. It's also the fan tip.

Okay.

And that's adjustable on the Milwaukee as well. And so you can adjust adjust the nozzle as to how it's spraying. And so you, you typically tighten it in order to create a wider, finer mist, or you loosen it in order to create more of a pin stream.

Okay.

And you use that pin stream in order to, you know, you build up the pressure and then you shoot really, really high to heat, hit like second-story eaves and, and different things like that. And so you need the ability to, to reach and, and, and put chemicals in different places for different applications. Um, and, and so like what I use, I mean, what has been the best backpack sprayer on the market for years is the Stihl. Uh, and there's, I mean, like you can, I don't care what you, you, you, you know, what you try and put it up against. There's nothing out there right now that compares like the Stihl.

Right.

And there's just nothing. And the, and let me also put this message out there to Milwaukee, Ryobi, and EGO and, you know, RIDGID and DeWalt and all these kind of companies. Uh, the other thing that Stihl makes that's just amazing is a backpack blower with a chemical tank on it that we use for mosquito fogging.

Oh.

And so I don't, I don't see any reason why they couldn't come up with a battery-powered version of that as well.

Interesting.

Which would be absolutely fantastic if they had that. I would buy them all day, every day. 5 of them a year. I mean, that would—

all day, every day, y'all. He would buy these all day, every day. He's got an endless supply of money. And when it comes— you would never have to sell to anybody else.

You wouldn't, because I would dominate the market with one of those.

Well, you would, you would definitely be able to do it more quickly than anybody else.

And cheaper. Yeah, I really would. And so I don't know if they're working on a product like that. If you need my help developing it, I'd be happy to show you all the problems with the one that I currently have, because I use a Steel, and the Steel is a great product. Sure. Um, but it has its issues. Um, sure. But I mean, like, it's— there's no one's ever really— I think Echo has a product like that one as well. But anyway, um, where was I going with all that?

I don't know, but I will tell you this. Um, you can buy just the tank for that.

Oh, you looked it up?

I looked it up.

How much is the tank?

It's $150.

Oh dang, that's—

So it's a little bit expensive, but It comes with the tank and the sprayer. So, so when you change that tank out, the sprayer handle nozzle, that's all part of that tank.

Oh, is it really?

So, um, yeah, it's not clear in some of the videos I watched. Yeah, so I think one of the things that that actually is helpful for is you don't have to clear the, the line.

That's true.

Before you like spray something else.

That makes a lot of sense actually, because I mean, one of the things that you get with some chemicals is cross-contamination. Sure, you can, you can actually like ruin an application by having a, a contrary, you know, chemical that you've used previously.

Yeah, but you know, and I would think though that depending on the application for you specifically, I mean, you've got— you're doing this all day, every day. I, I would, I would assume that you could probably do the math on how many of these you might need Sure. And, you know, obviously you're probably refilling through the day, but if you had a— if you had a supply, then you're still saving time by filling, you know, switching, all of those sorts of things. But just grabbing a tank, plopping it down on the— on the battery pack, there you go.

Yeah.

And you're probably not very far into this— the life of this tank before you've paid for the $150.

Probably.

So you do the math on that.

Yeah. So, well, um, so, well, and let's, let's circle back around because we mentioned RIDGID.

Yeah.

A while back. And, you know, like the up— the upside is that we, we kept talking about was like, you know, the warranty on this thing.

Yeah.

The downside is, is sort of what we've been talking about this whole time is just selection in general. They don't have a whole lot of tools. Yeah. I mean, they have all the standards. I think they have like a Sawzall. I'm pretty sure they have like a jigsaw, circular saw. saw, drills, impacts, and different things like that. Which, I mean, like, you know, I think I, I honestly, if you're talking about for like the DIY person, the Ridgid may actually be a better way to go.

Yeah.

Because not many people are going to have much use for all the specialty tools that Ryobi has. But for like, for general use, I mean, if you're not using them all the time, it can be really frustrating to walk up on a tool and have it not work. But if you, if you have the assurance of a lifetime warranty that, you know, you walk up on that tool, it's not functioning like it was before, that, that company's gonna stand behind that tool and replace it. Sure. That may actually be a better choice in the long run for the homeowner if they're, you know, primarily looking at, you know, basic saws and drills, um, because it's a good product.

Sure.

I mean, we, we use them and, and they've always been outstanding tools.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I've, I've, I personally own the Ryobi ONE system. Uh, when I, when I got married, my buddies got together and threw me a tool shower, which is awesome. That is awesome. And so if you're out there and you got a buddy who's getting married, throw him a tool shower. He will love you forever.

Yeah.

Um, so I got all kinds of stuff. Like, I got a table saw, and like, uh, I got a drill and a whole drill bit set, and I got a circular saw, and, uh, like a corner sander and a belt sander. And like, I got all kinds of stuff. It was awesome. But they they were all— they were smart and they bought all of them in the Ryobi line.

Okay.

And so for me, I got started for free because I had awesome buddies. Uh, one of them I know is a regular listening listener, so Zach, I'm giving you a shout out. Thank you for participating in that. I still have a lot of those tools, um, and I use them, and I've built my, my tool collection off of that because I was set up early in my, in my life to, to have those things. And so since I've just kind of stayed in that line because again, the most important part of that tool is the battery, right? And I bought those batteries. I've got extras of those batteries now. And so for me to go buy Milwaukee at this point doesn't make sense for me unless I sell all of those tools, right? And

then start on a Milwaukee line because the battery is the primary part of that tool.

Yeah.

So, you know, since then, dude, I've got some pretty cool some pretty cool tools that, that I use. I've got a nailer stapler combo, I've got a hedge trimmer, and I've got a— it's a—

Battery-operated?

Battery-operated hedge trimmer, and it works really, really well. EGO has a hedge trimmer as well, okay, um, that's a lot more powerful than the one I've got, but the one I've got works. I mean, for the number of hedges that I use it on, I mean, it'll cut like a half-inch branch. Yeah, um, does a do great. And I've got like a little handheld blower. It doesn't do great, but like just for like blowing off a porch or something like that, getting some dust out of the way.

Yeah.

Um, I, I look back on my childhood and think about living in West Texas.

Yeah.

Where haboobs are, right? And, and like, I could literally make footprints in my, in my porch as I walked on my porch. I'm thinking, man, I would have loved to have this little handheld blower back then because I had to get out there as one of my chores and sweep off the porch.

I'm sweeping the sand off.

Yes. And so having this little blower would have been fantastic.

Oh yeah.

Um, because it doesn't have the most power in the world, but it does great for what it is. Um, so yeah, I mean, you, you wind up gaining a repertoire of tools and you look back and you go, man, I've kind of invested here.

Yeah. You know, well, and the one that we really haven't spent much time talking about is DeWalt. No. Which, I mean, and I think this is actually gonna be their Achilles heel. I mean, the fact that we're not— not the fact that we're not talking about them, but like, there's, there's not much. While they are a high-quality tool, and I don't want anybody to think that I'm like dissing on DeWalt because they're great, they make a fantastic—

Yes, they do.

Tool. Here's the problem is they don't have anything that like distinguishes themselves from anybody else.

Right.

Because, you know, while their tools and their batteries are great, I have more selection from Milwaukee. Mm-hmm. I have more selection from Ryobi. Um, there's nothing about their battery that tells me that it's exceptional above anybody else's. The only thing I think that they have, uh, that's similar, I think they do have a weed trimmer that they sell that you can use DeWalt batteries on.

They do. And, and I'll tell you, it's, it's pretty good. Now they also have a line of saws that are, uh, so getting into woodworking here for just a moment, one of the coolest inventions in the last few years is the invention of the plunge saw.

Okay.

So do you know what a plunge saw is?

No clue.

So a plunge saw is, it's a saw that is on a track Okay. And so it kind of replaces the need in some respects for a table saw.

Okay.

So you can lay a track down on a sheet of plywood and make a perfectly straight cut because the saw runs along the track, and so it's perfectly straight. Um, but it's a plunge saw, so instead of having a circular saw, you got to start at one end end and cut through a piece of wood. A plunge saw, you can take and it, and it, it sits up like this and, um, and then you plunge it down.

Okay.

And it makes a cut and then you can make a— make your cut.

So you, you sort of pull it down like you would like a miter saw?

Similar, only you're pushing it down instead of pulling it down.

Okay.

Because you're pushing it down and then pushing it through the wood. Okay, why is that important? Um, there's a lot of applications where you're trying to cut a hole.

Okay.

Instead of trying to cut a piece of wood off, you're trying to cut a hole. So if you're, if you're cutting cabinetry, for example, a plunge saw is really, really important. Um, it makes life so much easier, plus they're really accurate. And so that being said, DeWalt is in that is in that line as well, and I'm pretty sure they've got a cordless one of those that uses their battery. I will also say that DeWalt has just released a 60-volt battery that I believe is backwards compatible to their 20-volt batteries.

Oh, really?

So, so that 60-volt—

I think it's got to be heavy.

Well, yeah, it's got to be. I mean, because I'll tell you this, my 56-volt EGO battery is pretty big. But that being said, I mean, I don't really know. I'm not not looked at it, I'm not seeing it, but what I do know is they have it, and I'm pretty sure that it works on their trimmer, for example. It also works on their drill. Okay, so I don't really know how that all works. Um, I'm— that's just what I'm reading. So if you have any experience with that, let me know, because I'd sure like to hear.

Well, I imagine if that— if that is the case, then like other tool systems are gonna be able to follow suit.

And I would think so.

I mean, I don't know why. I mean, like, I can't imagine what the necessity of a 60-volt battery on a drill would be when an 18 to 20 volt is fine.

The only— the only thing that makes it necessary is that you can use it for both. Sure, just like you can with a Milwaukee, you can use the 18 for all of their tools. This is one battery for all their tools. Yeah, so I think—

But again, like, the differentiating thing there is like DeWalt, as far as I know at least, doesn't have like a chainsaw saw that—

Yeah, that I know of.

That performs like the Milwaukee. It, it, I mean, like, it just doesn't have some of those kinds of things that you're like, why? I mean, like, are you doing that because Milwaukee already did it and you just don't wanna seem like you're copying it? Or are they trying to develop something that's a little bit different? That I just, I just don't see anything that distinguishes DeWalt for me other than it, I mean, like, again, make a high quality tool. Like, I love their table saw. Um, I think they actually probably make one of the better table saws out there. Sure. Um, if I just had to pick amongst them, I might actually just pick the DeWalt. I mean, sure, it's been from— I mean, they're great. Yeah.

Um, so, but I just don't, I don't see anything that makes them stand out as a product that, that makes them distinguished amongst the other products, except that they do have a chainsaw. They do have a chainsaw?

They do. Okay.

I just probably hadn't seen it yet then.

They do. And it's their, their 60-volt max cordless chainsaw.

So, so do you have to have the 60-volt, or—

You do for that one.

Okay.

They also, however, they also have a 20-volt version that is— that's similar. It, it's less powerful.

Okay.

But they've got one.

Yeah. Okay. Which, I mean, like, honestly, when I saw the Milwaukee one, I was like, how are they doing that on 18 volts? But I like, they're making it work, man.

They are.

It's a—

they are. No, you're, you're absolutely right. Um, so the, the difference is that, that, that 60-volt chainsaw is much more like your probably like an 18-inch chainsaw, to whereas their 20 volts like a 12-inch.

Okay, that makes more sense.

Which a 12-inch, for those of you who don't know much about chainsaws, a 12-inch chainsaw is not going to do much. No, whereas 18 is a more standard size.

You could actually potentially get a decent-sized tree down with that.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So they— yeah, they're, they're doing— they're— DeWalt's getting there. I mean, they're, they're definitely entering the game with, with some of their outdoor, you know, um, so, you know, they've got, they've got hedge trimmers.

Do they have a push mower?

They do.

Do they really?

They do.

Does it only work on their 60-volt?

It— we know it uses 2 20-volt Oh, interesting. Again, this is a new product for them. But what we're finding is, these companies are learning very quickly that battery power— please hear me on this, people— battery power is more efficient, it is cleaner, and more powerful than gas. Yeah, and if you do not believe me, then you need to go find somewhere where you can test it. Buy the tool and try it. Yeah, I promise you, you will not be disappointed. It is unbelievable to me how powerful that 56-volt battery is that I use. Oh yeah, um, it's, it's absolutely incredible.

Yeah, the— and like, for the, for the regular homeowner, I mean like the, the, the need for a, a compressor anymore is just gone.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, like you, you just, you don't, I mean, like the, you know, unless you're someone like me who might occasionally, and like, even, even, and I know people are gonna like be yelling at me through the internet, you don't need the compressor for that. But like, you know, the, the impact that you get for taking lug nuts off of certain types of things.

Yep.

You know, that might be the last bastion of the need for like, you know, compression, compression tools.

Yeah. Well, but even, even then, Ryobi makes—

I know they make it and they make it, they make a, they make one. Um, I, I don't know that the batteries are there yet to, to create the same kind of power. I'd be interested to see. Um, that, that kind of ratcheting power that those, that those impacts can make with a, with a good compressor. But at the end of the day, regardless of whether or not they have the same kind of power, the amount of money that you spend for a really good compressor pales in comparison to the cost of the battery and that tool.

Sure does.

So if, if that tool with the battery gets the job done, yeah, Yeah, nuts to that $1,500 compressor.

Yep.

Yep. And then that whole other line of tools that you have to have to connect to it.

Yeah. And so what's, what's bizarre is we've talked about EGO quite a bit. I'm a huge fan of their products for so many reasons, but dude, they've got a generator that runs on batteries. Yep. It is 3,000 watts. Yeah, a 3,000-watt generator. It'll run any appliance in your home. Yeah, and you can put 4 7.5 amp-hour batteries on that thing.

4.

So I mean, you're talking like 30 amp-hours on this generator.

14, 15-hour generator.

Yeah, right. So you're— I mean, if, if we're looking at the just kind of that formula we were looking at earlier, that's 15 hours of running 3,000 watts.

And Milwaukee has one of these too, don't they?

I don't know.

I think I remember— I think I remember Eric G. telling us that Milwaukee had one.

They— you're right. I think they— I think he did. I think he did say that, now that you say that. So, you know, I don't know what—

I don't know what the specs on it are, but I think I remember him saying that they don't either.

Yeah, I've not looked at it, but I guess we can— we can boil it down to this. We could talk about this for a long time.

Yeah.

But, um, you know, we're, we're right at an hour into this, and I think we can, we can kind of sum up some things by saying this: battery-powered tools are absolutely incredible. And I'm not just talking about hand tools, I'm talking about lawn tools, which now that we've gotten into lawn tools, absolutely incredible for the environment, absolutely incredible for your not having to run to the gas station if you need to fill up your gas. Your, your, your lawnmower.

That alone has got to be a major selling point for most people. Not only that, I mean, like oil changes.

Yeah.

On your mower.

Just the maintenance in general that goes into that is— I mean, you're just gonna get a longer life out of a battery-powered tool than you're gonna get out of a gas-powered tool.

And let's, let's be fair and talk about the downside Because I think while, while we're saying, yeah, you have to run to the gas station, yeah, you got to do the maintenance and all this kind of stuff, uh, when it breaks— and it'll break—

Sure.

You can't take it to your local lawnmower repairman.

That's true. However, the price of that tool is pretty inexpensive if you've already got a battery.

Sure. But if you try and get it fixed, let's be honest, you're gonna have to deal with the nimcompoops at a big box store.

Very likely.

And more than likely it's gonna get shipped off in order to be repaired. Yeah, either that or someone who's entrepreneurial is gonna figure out how to fix them and start up his own shop.

Yeah, we're gonna get there. But honestly, what's gonna break? I mean, the number of internal components is less whenever you don't have a gas engine that you're also running, right?

My point in saying that though is not that like it's, it's not a good product and that it's, it's gonna break all the time. I I, I get that, but like, it's, it's different because when your 2-cycle engine goes down, when your, you know, your gas-powered lawnmower goes down, I know how to take it apart.

That's true.

I know how to fix it. I, I can fix it. When these battery-operated things go down, when these, these electrical motors that go down, I don't know how to fix it. I have no clue.

Sure.

And like, if I took it apart, I'd probably just make it worse. Yeah.

And, and There is something to be said for the fact that the battery is half the cost of that tool.

Sure.

And so if you're gonna pay $200 for a trimmer or $100 for a tool, mm-hmm, because you don't have to buy the battery, you've already got the battery, hey, I might could spring for $100 not to have to send it off.

Sure.

You know, I mean, I agree with you. Yeah, the maintenance schedule is something that I don't know much about. out. And more than likely, it's gonna have to be something that you're gonna have to part with for a while.

Yeah, I will say, one of the more impressive things about these is usually when you're dealing with like innovative things, you're dealing with something that's gonna have a much higher cost. Yeah, you know, like when I— yeah, when I first saw the Ryobi zero-turn battery-powered mower, I was like, good lord, that's gonna be $15,000.

Right.

Well, it was $3,500, $4,000, which is nothing to sneeze at, but it's not what I expected for an innovative tool, for something that's new. When you see the newest flat-screen TV come out, it's almost always $8,000 to $9,000 for that big, honking, 82-inch, 24K, whatever it is that they're coming out with now. It's just going to be really, really expensive. until they sell a few and then they figure out how to make them cheaper. And this seems to have a little bit more research into it, and that they were able to produce them at a much lower price.

Yeah, it's, it's pretty shocking. And I'm, um, I've talked to a guy, uh, that knows what he's talking about when it comes to the EGO products, and he tells me that that zero-turn that EGO is coming out with with. It should be available at the beginning of the year. Is ridiculous.

Yeah.

He says it's just absolutely— and it's gonna run on their 56-volt battery. So I mean, think about that.

Yeah.

Again, you're, you're talking about some of these tools you're having to buy with some of them a different battery.

Yeah.

With Milwaukee, you're not having to buy a different battery.

Yeah.

With EGO, you're not having to buy a different battery. Now they're not in hand tools right now, Yeah, but, um, they're, they're in lawn equipment. Yeah. And so it's almost like you got your, your hand tool line, your lawn equipment line, right?

So, and I will say, I mean, like, I'm, I'm in a lot of people's houses every day just, just based off what I do. And it's, it's been interesting to me to notice how many of the EGO products I'm starting to see in people's garages. Sure. Um, they're, they're doing something right over there.

They are.

People are really digging their products.

Yeah. I'm, well, I could not tout them higher. They're, they're, they're a really, really good company. So, uh, but guys, when— and gals out there that are, that are listening right now, just know that when it comes to these tools, you're getting what you pay for.

Yep.

You're helping the environment by not using a, a gas-powered emissions, uh, type of thing. And all of them are good in some respect. Make a Go down that line and you're probably gonna be happy.

And enjoy.

And enjoy. Yeah, that's right.

I mean, because there's good things about all of them.

Sure. And, and not having to, to lug a cord around is so cool.

And also, let's not, let's not dog on other people for their tool choices, right? You know, if you really believe that they're wrong, just let them experience it and figure it out for themselves.

Yeah, I mean, except for you, Harbor Freight guy.

You just need to shape up.

Although I, I will tell you, like, on some of their, um, some of their tools that are just like hand tools that are not powered, right, hand tools, they have a lifetime warranty like Craftsman does.

Really?

Yes, yes they do.

For a 10-cent wrench?

Yes they do. You take it back and they'll give you a brand new one. Most people do not know that about that, about Harbor Freight.

Yep, now you heard it here on the Homeowner's It's a, it's a crazy place to go shop, man. Have you ever been, been in one of them?

Of course. There's— I, I'll be honest, I got a lot of stuff from Harbor Freight because, uh, now I'm very choosy about what I buy from there.

Sure.

Um, I will not buy their floor jacks. Uh, but, um, now that they've been recalled twice, they had—

they recalled the recall.

Yeah, they recalled the recall on floor jacks. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna pick my car up.

Don't get understuffed, people.

Yeah, you get what you pay for, right? Um, but there's some things there that I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll pay for that, you know?

Yeah.

So I mean, I've got some, uh, some bar clamps that I've bought from there. They're exactly the same as what I would get at Lowe's or Home Depot. Um, they work great.

Yeah.

So You know, you can find what you want at a lot of places. So there you go.

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