NEW! Ryobi Link System

This is episode number 165 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett. Here with me is Craig Williams.

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're so glad that you could join us from another live episode. of the show here from the Homeowner Show Studios. How you doing, Kev?

I'm doing well, I'm doing well. It's a little bit late, but it's not too late. We've been a lot later before.

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Yes.

We're the fun version of, of, of Home Improvement.

Well, that— I mean, that's just what happens whenever you have a real life. Yeah, whenever you're busy, you have stuff to do. Yeah, you know. That's what happens.

And speaking of stuff to do, we have stuff to do here at the beginning of the show.

That's right.

You want to go first? You want me to go first?

Uh, sure, I'll go first.

Go for it.

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Again, how are you doing? I'm doing well. And I'll tell you what I love right now is I love being outside as often as possible.

Dude, it is beautiful outside.

It is one of my favorite times of the year. This, like, spring Springtime, I love springtime. But this time of the year where it's gotten off of that horribly hot time, it's finally cooled down. You can be outside, you can work on your house, you can work on your yard, you can do whatever you want to do outside and not feel like, look, I just want to shoot myself. Because that's typically where I want to go sometimes. You know, thankfully, thankfully I haven't.

I would imagine suicides go down this time of year.

Well, sure.

I mean, they, you know, they ramp back up around Christmas. But statistically, statistically, that's right.

How are you doing?

I'm— well, I don't want to kill myself, so I guess I'm doing okay.

Well, why would you whenever you have a beautiful tractor sitting right outside your door here? What would you— I mean, why would you want to whenever you have that option available?

Well, yeah, and that's what I've been doing for the last 2 days. I've been, you know, riding the tractor.

Yes. Smart, smart man, I say.

Big fun. I had a lot of dirt to move.

What kind of dirt?

Well, it's kind of complicated.

Brown dirt, red dirt, what kind of dirt do we have around here?

So our, our neighborhood is like, like my house, our neighborhood's a little bit unique. Yeah. In that we're relative, like our homeowners association is really good with their money.

Yeah.

So rather than hiring a company to dredge our lake to, you know, clear out the low spots in the lake, we bought a dredger and trained some guys in the neighborhood how to operate it.

Yeah.

And so being the frugal group that we are, didn't come up with a way to dispose of the dirt that we dredge from the lake.

Sure.

So I volunteered and said, I'll take it.

There you go.

Because I know it's really good dirt.

Yeah.

Um, so I've been using it to fill in some low spots around the property. I cleaned out a lot of bad dirt from around the barn and replaced it with this good clean dirt and then moved and spread out the bad dirt to dry out so it can fertilize the pasture and, and do some different things. So I've been working with dirt for like the last 2 days and I've been having so much fun.

Well, I— so here's my question about that. So this is water that was— water— this is dirt that was once submerged because it's coming out of the bottom of the lake.

Yes.

Right. But I've been in that lake and you can sink up to your knees really quickly.

Yep.

Which is why you got to dredge the thing, right? So it's good, like fluffy dirt.

Yes.

Right. But when it comes out, I mean, it's super wet, but it dries really well, I guess.

Well, and there are some— there's like some, some of those clay chunks in there.

Okay.

But those will dry out and break up and become, you know, good dirt as well. Right now they're kind of like goop.

Yeah.

So they hold water really, really well.

I can imagine. So, so if you remember, some of you who've been longtime listeners of the show, which all of you should eventually be long-term listeners, of course, Craig had an issue. And the issue was that back behind the studio, which is where the horses live, which is right behind you, which is right behind me, is, well, it was just a mud pit. Yep. Just a complete sloshy, gross, disgusting mud pit. The horses loved it, um, but it was awful to walk around and take care of the horses because of all that. So you took care of part of it by putting in like a gutter system, right?

Well, and that's actually something that's fixing— I'm fixing to take the gutters down because they're not doing the trick.

Oh, okay.

So yeah, the, the— I mean, like, the, the problem that I solved there is I, I came in with a miniature backhoe Or not a backhoe. What do you call those things?

Uh, uh, it's a Bobcat.

It's like a Bobcat. Yeah, but like a smaller version. Yeah, like it could fit through the stall door.

Yeah, I mean, you probably didn't tip it over or anything.

I didn't, no. So some demon goblin flipped that thing over.

So it ended up not—

I admit nothing, Kevin. No, you do. Not so. Yeah, admit it didn't flip over till the job was done anyway, so it served its purpose.

Sure.

Um, but anyway, uh, that's a long story. I don't really want to get into that one, but it's fun though. One bourbon Craig doesn't want to talk about that. Hang on, let me pour me another.

Okay.

Um, but anyway, the, the gutters are gonna have to come down for a couple reasons. One, Um, we're expanding the herd around here, so I need additional stalls. Um, I'm not allowed—

Has that happened yet?

Well, no, because I can't until—

You have the stall space in order to accommodate said herd.

Yes.

Okay.

So I've gotta, I've gotten to put it, I've got to put an addition on the back of the barn, which that should solve the mud issue.

Oh, because in and of itself you're going to be putting a roof over it?

Correct.

Okay.

Yeah, so the gutters have to come down either way, right? But the gutters weren't really solving the problem anyway, so good riddance.

So are you building the structure yourself?

That is the plan as of right now.

Okay, because I plan to document it if that's the case.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, for lots of reasons. First of all, the Homeowner Show people want to know how this is going to go, and the rest of us want to know if it stays up, you know, and it's kind of being a one-man show.

Before it's all said and done. So, oh man, which many, many of the projects that I begin and finish, I look back and go, how did I survive that? I don't really know. That shouldn't, that shouldn't have happened. Yeah.

As long as your name's not Alec Baldwin, we'll be fine.

That's right.

So, and well, actually, I'll be fine.

How dare you drag that man through the mud?

Oh man, we're Well, we should move on from that. No, no, no.

If you didn't know, Alec Baldwin shot a gal.

That was not smart.

And, you know, personal opinion, should be in jail.

We don't share personal opinions on this show, Craig, so we're gonna cut that right out.

Yeah, yeah, we're, uh, personal opinions are coming.

Yeah, I, I know they are. Um, yeah, so that was tragic.

It was.

I mean, really, let's just put this out there for a minute. Why are there even live rounds on the set anywhere? Why are they even close? Why anywhere near a movie scene do you need to have live rounds? I just don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it.

Well, part of the, part of the, part of the issue there is that they use real guns on sets of films.

Yes.

And so if you have an irresponsible safety person or an irresponsible— whoever the person is in charge of the guns, you know, you could have an instance where that gun the day before had been used on a range.

Okay.

And then was left loaded, brought to set, not checked, handed to an actor. I mean, there's several steps in between that and that happening. But, you know, that's a reasonable assumption to go, this could have occurred. Right? Yeah.

I— yes.

I'm not saying that's— I'm not saying that's a good excuse.

Sure.

No.

It's— it's reasonable. It's an explanation. I just don't know why you don't have— well, you should just have more guns all the time. Right? That way, you have your range guns.

Yeah. And your show guns. For sure. Well, but, like, you know, and— and what this— I— I think what this all comes back to is just the personal responsibility of this is, like, Look, I don't care who hands you a gun. Check the firearm.

Every time.

And you sure as hell don't point it at anybody or anything.

No.

Without checking the firearm.

No, no.

And you know what makes this a particularly frustrating circumstance is the gun in question was more than likely a revolver. And I think that's actually been reported at this point that it was a revolver.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because it's a historical movie, I think set in like the 1840s.

Right.

So it was probably a revolver of some type. So like, you know, a good excuse might have been, well, this is an 18-magazine revolver. You expect me to check every single round in that? Yes, I do.

Yeah.

But you lose some of that when it's like, this gun holds 6 bullets.

Right.

Of which you can see.

Yes. It is so easy to pop that thing out and check it.

Yeah.

And pop it back in. In fact, that's part of the fun of having a revolver. popping the thing out and popping it back in. Yeah.

So it's— it was tragic, frustrating story.

Yeah.

And then to hear him talk about it as if he's completely removed from the responsibility of any of it, it's just— it's a frustrating set of circumstances for those of us who take gun ownership very seriously. Yeah.

Yeah. And I do think that that's That tends to be a misconception, and not to be in a political debate here for any reason whatsoever.

I don't think we've disagreed yet, so I don't know. No, well, we're not debating.

Well, yeah, people, people listening in the car right now are like, those Homeowner Show guys. Like, here's the thing, um, most gun owners that I know are very responsible with it, and they take it, they, they take it very seriously.

Yeah.

You know, and so I, I think that it's, it just tends to be a misconception out there. That's my point.

Oh, that gun owners are irresponsible?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

That they're just, you know, out— why, why do you even need a gun? It's like, well, there, there's a way to have things that are dangerous safely.

Yeah.

It's, it's possible.

To which, to which my usual response is, what entitles you to an explanation? I— yeah, you know. Yep.

Okay, I'm with you.

Yeah, so there you go.

I'm with you. Well, so today, um, as you have seen in the title whenever you clicked on the thingy in order to download today's episode, to watch it or listen to it, you see that the title is the new Ryobi See what I did there? The new Ryobi Link system. I just want to see if you caught me. Um, and there's a whole new product coming out. Yeah, we like to talk about new products.

Product line. Product line.

It's a whole— and what's interesting is this was not showcased. I promise you, had they showcased this in the little— the— what was it called? The, the tool— I don't know, it was belt roundup. I don't know what's going on.

We did not speak favorably of it, and I don't want to repeat its title even to let people search it now.

No, no, we— we—

because no one needs to watch that travesty of a tool reveal.

There was nothing there that was worth seeing or buying. I mean, the only— the only thing worth buying was like the clip fan, right?

We got 40 new tools and 20 of them are all the same drill in a different package. Screw you, Ryobi.

Exactly. So if they would have highlighted this, we would have probably been a little bit more excited.

This would have been like This would have been awesome to reveal.

Why would they not reveal this?

Because I don't think they even had the idea yet.

You think in the past— what was that, 4 months ago?

Yep.

They came out with all of this and was ready to develop it and put it together since then?

Yeah, and I'll explain why throughout the show.

Okay, so here's the thing. Um, I'm sure that if you have very many tools, you have at some point in your life gone, I need a way to store these things and organize them in a way that I know where stuff is. And so, oh, there's been a lot of DIY, um, little kits that you can make, you know, plans that people put out on Pinterest, that sort of thing.

Yeah.

Where you can go build like rack systems to put your drill and your um, reciprocating saw and your flashlight and, um, impact drill and, and all these things, line them up, right?

Yeah.

And that way you just grab what you need, slide it back into the slot, and you're good to go. Um, there's all kinds of little things, right? Well, Ryobi got smart and said, you know what, we can build one of those with plastic and it's going to be awesome, and you're going to be able to buy it from directly from us. It's going to fit our tools perfectly. And that's what they did, right? Mm-hmm. So, um, there's all kinds of things. Where do we want to start? I mean, I, so I, here, here's where I'll start. I, if, um, we, we probably should have been smart and like, like put some screencast stuff on here. That would've been

screencast, like added our screen, my computer screen. Oh, that would've been—

We can do that.

We can, we just should have. Um, you can go also go, just go look it up yourself.

It's a Ryobi Link system.

Right. It's, it's the very first result on the top of Google. Exactly.

Don't be a lazy listener.

Exactly. Um, so basically imagine a massive grid, right? So how big is this grid? 2, 4, 6, 2, 4, 6. You can, well, you can make it however big you want to. It's modular, right?

Yeah, that's, that's kind of the idea.

It's this whole little grid system that you put up And you can attach various things to the grid in order to store your tools more efficiently, right?

Yeah.

Okay. So, so let's talk about one of them. Which one do you want to talk about first?

Are you talking about the one on the wall or the Packout system?

Yeah, let's talk about the wall first and then we'll talk about the Packout system in a minute.

Okay. Yeah. And so going back a little bit to what I was talking about a minute ago, the reason that I think that they didn't have this ready is for the exact reason that you're talking about. I think they ripped this off. Well, yeah, I think so. From people who have been making it on 3D printers and stuff for a long time. And I actually, I mean, like, when you, when you would search for this kind of stuff, it would actually have like Ryobi's label or brand on it.

Yeah.

And even though it wasn't a Ryobi product, right. And so I think they just got wise to what was going on. I was like, look, these guys are making a bunch of money selling this stuff for tool organization. We might as well just go ahead and do it ourselves. Um, but anyway, the Wall Link system— and how— what's, what's the distinction that they make? I have the website up here a minute ago.

But between the, the— what the distinction they may make between what? Well, so there's the, the Link modular storage system, and then it's just called the, the Link mobile storage.

Okay.

Is what they call the, uh, Packout— what, what I'm calling the Packout store. And then they got the wall storage. So you got the mobile storage and the wall storage.

Okay. What's, what's kind of cool about the wall is it's kind of a honeycomb system.

Yeah.

Um, and so you can, you can stack the honeycombs on top of one another in order to create more, uh, slots for all the different stuff that you want to organize on the wall. And so it's not— what's interesting about it is you would think that it's just for like Ryobi stuff, but it's not. I mean, like, they're integrating the tools with like sports equipment. lawn equipment, bicycle storage. I mean, all kinds of different stuff. I mean, you can really hang whatever you want. This is almost like a wall peg system, but Ryobi's own modular system that you can, you know, instead of having to have a pegboard, you just buy their honeycomb slots and you can stack them on top of one another.

Yeah.

And so it also looks like it has like a snap-on feature for some of the items.

Yeah, because there's all different sorts of ways that you can hang your tools on this thing.

So, um, well, and I think it's important to note that we're saying looks like because they have— they haven't released this yet.

They're just—

they've just announced it. And so like, it's going to be coming to, I assume, Home Depot.

Yeah, it's where— that's primarily where they're going to be selling this.

But it's, it's not even out yet. Yeah. And so anyone that has it has been sent it as a pre-release by Ryobi. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, Ryobi.

Hello. Um, hello.

You know, we could be giving much more in, you know, detailed information about this kind of stuff had you sent it to us, done your job.

Don't you know the name of the show is The Homeowner Show?

Yeah.

Hello.

Come on.

So, um, a couple of things that they've got. I mean, yes, you can buy, uh, what they call Link Wall Rails. Okay, that's what you're talking about, the little honeycomb-looking things. They just kind of snap in together. And then on that, you, you place the various storage things. Okay, so one of them, probably my favorite one, I think the one that people are going to like the most, is the hanging shelf, right? So it's a tool organizer hanging shelf. So it's one of those deals where you can, you know, you turn your, your drill upside down by the handle and slide it into a little slot and it'll hang, right? And so on top of that, then you've got a shelf. So you can put different things

on that.

So you can store your batteries, your other attachments for those, for those hand tools. Um, so this actually irritates me to no end, mostly because I just got done building my own in my shop, uh-huh, to— for my Ryobi tools.

Uh-huh. Um, and, and even had to— I, I, I noticed, especially for like your blower, had to modify something to make it hang just right. Yeah, because But it looks great up here.

And I'm looking at how their blower's hanging in the garage. I'm like, you son of a—

Yeah, because they, they made it look pretty.

They did.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, mine doesn't look bad, but like—

No, it's just not that.

Yeah.

I mean, plastic looks great.

Yep.

Yeah, they can mold it. So, um, a couple other things. I mean, so you've probably seen some other brands who have done something similar to this. a rack system of something. So you have different, um, different hooks, different sizes of hooks. Um, you've got power tool hooks, you've got these, um, just like a utility hook, you've got a bike hook, you've got hooks for, um, like brooms and, and, uh, you know, mops, tools, you know, rakes and shovels and all those sorts of things. Um, so there's a bunch of different hooks, and then they've got some bins. Mm-hmm. You know, some little things you can put like pencils and pens in, or you can put nails or screws or something like that in. And so there's a lot of different, like,

just pieces that go on that honeycomb system to help organize all your tools. And, and if you have Ryobi tools, you know that they are making these specifically for their devices, so their devices are going to fit into it Very, very well. Right.

Well, and I think, I think it's important to note that when we say that, we're talking about their power tools and their yard equipment.

Yes.

Everything else is pretty universal.

It is. Yeah. I mean, I mean, well, I mean, you got to think about it. Most, most drills and, and those sorts of things, you know, they're even going to be somewhat similar, but they're going to have different bases. But like, when you, when you say, especially for like a rake or a shovel or those sorts of things. I mean, that's going to be pretty universal for sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but like even like the sports equipment, like a baseball bat's a baseball bat, right? You know, the ball bag, I mean, like that's just gonna fit any ball. Um, so I mean, like any, any other— like I think I see on there, like they've got like some tape hanging from it. I mean, like, yeah, there's some things that are just going to be universally— one of the interesting things, one of the interesting things to me is the sideways storage box.

Oh yeah.

So, and this is, this is one of the things, and I think you, the way you mentioned this before the show was you said, I mean, it looks like they've got Legos.

Yeah.

And because that thing just snaps into the wall, right, where, uh, where those honeycombs are. And this is part of the Packout system, and I call it the Packout. So they're calling it the Link system, but like we all call it the Packout system because I think Milwaukee is the first one to do that and they call it the Packout system.

Right. So, so imagine a very high-tech Um, storage unit for all of your tools. And so you've got a bigger, a bigger compartment that's on wheels, right? And that, that might hold power tools and some of your larger equipment. And then you've got smaller, um, modular containers.

Mm-hmm.

That storage containers, they can hold different things like bits and screws and, you know, all different All different types of tools that are smaller, that, that are going to fit into those smaller bins. And they all stack on top of each other. And it's like rolling around a suitcase.

Yeah, yeah, no, there's really, really cool.

Yeah. And, and it really does. It looks like Legos. Yeah, on top of, you know, how they kind of fit together. And so what I'm really interested, because I would say that, okay, so RIDGID has a PACKOUT type system as well. And I think Craftsman does too.

They do.

Um, yeah, so Ryobi's now finally come out with theirs. And what I'm finding with most, most of the time, it's not always true, but most of the time Ryobi is one of the less, least expensive ones, right?

Yes.

But I, but I typically find the quality to be pretty good, especially for the majority of homeowners out there.

Yeah.

And I, I think this is going to be a really, really handy system for for a lot of people whenever it comes to just storing their equipment.

Well, I mean, like, for, for me, like, we, we use Ryobi tools in the business. And so like the ability to have a PACKOUT system like this, and I think if I was looking at the pictures right, again, this hasn't been released, so I don't know for sure. It looks like the tool hanging shelf on the modular system fits into the PACKOUT system.

Yeah, it does.

So you could pull it off the wall, put it right in the PACKOUT system and down the road you go. So you don't have to like remove and, you know, like you just, take that shelf off, slide it in the Packout, and off you go.

Yep.

Um, that's killer.

Yeah, I mean, again, you're— you've just got it there. Everything has its place, and there's a place for everything, right? Right. And, and, you know, for, for men that want to have an organized garage, I think this is going to be a game changer. In fact, one of the things I think this is going to be a game changer for is men that are going, man, I sure would love to have a tool, a tool chest. But I either A, don't want to buy one because they're too expensive.

Yep.

Um, or B, they just take up a lot of room. And, and I've got a smaller garage and I've only got so much space. But if I could basically have all my stuff organized and just put it on the wall in a low-profile way, that probably makes more sense for some people. So Then not only that, now you have a portable system that you can take with you anywhere. You can't take some of those, some of those tool chests. You can't take those anywhere. Way too heavy.

All right. Yeah.

You can't take them anywhere. They're not built to take anywhere. But this is, this is portable and we live in an increasingly portable, uh, you know, lifestyle these days. So I don't know. I'm, I'm really, I'm really interested. I think it's something that's gonna be in my possession. You know, I'm gonna have it.

Well, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of the same way because, I mean, like, for, for our work, I mean, like, I, I need something like this in, in order to, you know, one of my, one of my big frustrations with power tools in general is most of the time the way one of the incentives that they give you to buy the tools is you get a free tool bag.

Sure.

You know, and, and so I don't know if anybody else has had this experience, but like my tools in a tool bag that they provide as like an incentive to buy, they just get boogered up in there.

Yeah, I know.

I, I hate it when my tools look like that. So it's just frustrating to me. And so being able to like take them off the shelf where they're already hanging nice and neat, because they're going to get boogered up when I use them no matter what. I mean, like, you know, I'm not gonna I'm going to use the tool, but as I carry it, they get dirtier that way more than when I use them just by rubbing on one another. And so to be able to put it in a container system like this where they're going to travel secure and they're going to hang and they're going to, they're going to stay nicer longer, right, by doing this. Um, so I'm, I'm super

excited. And it also looks like you can sort of mix and match your, your bits and pieces that you have. And it's also, if you've never seen a Packout system like what we're talking about, for those of you that may not even know, I mean, this is essentially like a dolly that has boxes with latches on it that have inside it different smaller compartmentalized storage pieces to put bits and screws and, you know, just all your knickknacks and paddywhacks to go on down the road with whatever tool and project that you're working on. So, you know, it's, it's really, really helpful to keep you organized because again, like, if you just have like a tool bag, Mm-hmm. in your truck or car or whatever it is. Like, you know, you throw screws in there, they're gonna go all over the place. And you,

you know, like, everything just gets mixed up and discombobulated. And then when you get to the work site, you're just frustrated because you can't find anything. And like, you stick your hand in there and your fingers get sliced by a keyhole saw.

And, you know, you've been there, your day's screwed at that point. Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. I mean, this just organizes things so much better. I mean, I, I can't tell you how, how often I look at— I keep a toolbox with me And so, and I know you keep more than I do with you even, but like every time I go to look for something, I don't know where it is. And so this, this organization system is gonna be so good. In fact, um, our friend Rod, um, just, just posted on here that, um, that one of the specs that's really, really impressive is that 2 rails, 2 of these, uh, the Link rails hold

75 pounds per square foot.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

So I guess that, that's assuming that you anchor it. Yeah.

I mean, obviously, that's gonna have to be put into a stud, which, you know, well, I don't know.

I mean, like 75 pounds on a piece of sheetrock.

That's—

I mean, like, if it's, if it's anchored and just displaced across a piece of—

Yeah, it could. I mean, because secured sheetrock, now it can probably hold 75 pounds. Yeah. I mean, now that you've got the, the anchors, And these— some of these anchors are pretty impressive, right?

Yeah.

I mean, they— the— these wall anchors are, are pretty amazing. Um, and there's all, you know, there's toggles and different things that can hold more, um, than other things. But what I am interested to know, and, and I just haven't done the research on this to find out yet, is do you have to have some sort of sheetrock or some sort of, um, backer up, or can you just put them in between studs, you know, because some, some garages aren't fully built out yet.

Yeah. Well, I think the, I think the problem with putting on, unless like they're perfectly measured, and again, I don't know what sec— how long these sections are. I'm gonna look because I would, that would have to take in, that would have to be an assumption that it's framed properly.

Well, and every house is different. I mean, Just because it's supposed to be 16 inches doesn't mean that it is.

My house isn't.

And well, yours is like 22 inches, isn't it? For some of them.

It was. So it's spaced properly. Uh-huh. Just not vertically. Oh, they're horizontal.

What? Yeah. That— I—

have we never talked about this before?

Well, no, that's just a Oh my gosh, I have so many. I mean, it's a fire block. It's good for that, right? Like, I mean, but I'm totally speechless right now.

Yeah, according to people that I've had out at the house, they're like, look, there's nothing structurally wrong with it. It's barn framed. It's just a different way to frame. I'm like, why was it done like this? And they go, because it was a barn.

And I was like, oh, there you go. Okay, so here's what I just found. the, the railing links are 33 inches by 6.5 inches, so they're pretty wide.

Yeah.

So hitting a stud on these things, it's not going to be difficult to do.

Yeah. What I, what I was wondering though is like, say where you wanted it on the wall, the end of the track ends in between 2 studs. So then does it like— yeah, but You know what I'm saying?

No, I completely understand what you're saying, which means to me that I think you need to have some sort of backer up behind it.

I would assume so. And I mean, all the pictures that we see, it's sheetrocked.

Yeah.

So, which, I mean, almost every new home I go to now, there is not a bare wall garage amongst them. They're all sheetrocked and finished.

Especially the new ones.

Yeah, well, that's what I mean. I mean, like all the new ones I go to, they're all, there's not a bare stud garage. I haven't seen a bare stud garage on a new house in ever. Wow.

In ever?

In the last, in the last 20 years. Well, I haven't seen one.

And you're in quite a few homes.

Yeah. So like, it's like, I know, I know I'm in a home that was built before 1980 when I walk in and I see studs on the walls.

Yeah. Which I, you know, to me, Drywall is fairly inexpensive.

Sure.

To put up. Um, in fact, I think, I think, uh, right now average drywall is running like 50 cents a square foot to, to install. So, um, not bad at all. And so, you know, it makes sense, and most homes are going to have it, so it's not a big deal. But, uh, I mean, this system's just really cool.

So here's, here's its— here's the, the chink in the armor.

Okay, bring it.

Well, and where I think they have the advantage here over everybody else, because, you know, Milwaukee has their Packout system. Yep. But it's just a Packout system. They don't have a modular system for the wall.

Right.

Makita has nothing.

No.

Craftsman has a similar system.

Yeah, but theirs are— theirs doesn't— I mean, you have to have The difference is there's no crossover. No, there's no crossover. It's just long railings that you have some things you can put on.

Yeah, but they also have a Packout system.

They do. Theirs is probably the most robust beyond this one, except for the Packout system that Milwaukee has. Their Packout systems, it's really good. I'm really interested to see if Ryobi's— see what I did there again— if theirs is anywhere close to as good as Milwaukee's is.

One of the things that I saw on the Milwaukee line that I haven't seen from the Ryobi, Ryobi, whatever, you got me doing it now, um, is they have a, uh, battery generator and light system for their Packout.

Yeah.

So you can USB plug in and all this kind of stuff. So like they have that for that, for that system.

Okay.

Um, but also, uh, it looks anyway, So Craftsman has— Craftsman's the only one that's even doing something even remotely close to what Ryobi's doing. Okay, yeah, yeah. RIDGID has a Packout system, but RIDGID also has more of like an industrial tool line.

Yes.

And so like they're not necessarily playing to the homeowner like Ryobi and, and some of these other tool lines are, although they should. They make a great tool.

Yeah, they do.

Um, the, the only thing is there's one company that makes a better wall organization system than any of them. And that's Elfa.

Oh, yeah. And I— so I'm interested to know, like, does Elfa have stuff for that that can hold this much weight? And that does?

Yeah.

And that does power tools?

I'm, I don't— I'm not even looking at their website. And I'm, I'm willing to bet money that Elfa can hold more weight.

Okay.

Than, than what the Ryobi one does.

Okay. Well, I, I, that won't, that wouldn't surprise me. But do they have stuff for power tools specifically?

Yes. Okay. Yeah.

Because I, I agree with you. The Elfa system, which you buy at The Container Store.

It's the only place you can buy it.

It's the only place you can buy it.

At least last time I checked.

Yeah. I don't think you can anywhere else. We've had it before and I know your mom used to sell it and we have a ton of it. You have a ton of it here.

It's so good. Well, and we, we have it in the garage at the shop.

Oh, okay.

It's fantastic.

Oh, I love it. It's so well made.

Yeah. I mean, like the stuff, I think the stuff we have in the house is, it's getting close to— that's 10 to 12 years old.

Yeah.

And like, they still make it the exact same way. Yeah. And so all the pieces still fit together. We can mix and match it. It's primarily like a closet system. Sure. Which at some point, we should probably do an episode on what they, what they offer for the closet. Because I've installed and had many, many different Alpha systems. And I mean, I've seen some really intricate ones. Yeah, it's insane what those things can do. Yeah. So, but they also have a garage line that does everything that the Ryobi one does.

Yeah.

Except for integrate the Packout system. They don't have a tool Packout system that can integrate with their wall. And I think, I think that is the, uh, the hidden gem here is integration.

Sure. Yeah, yeah. And, and one of the things that, um, that I'm, I'm seeing, uh, in the chat coming from Rod is he's saying the Docket system is really good, uh, from Ryobi.

And— What's the Docket system?

They've got like all their— they've got all everything from battery chargers to, uh, drill bits and, um, like, uh, I just lost the name of it.

What are the—

they're not drill bits, but they're the things that go in the screwdriver. What are they called? Bits. Just bits.

Just bits.

Just the bits.

Just the bits.

All those things. Um, they're, they're in like small cases and they, they like stack.

Yeah.

And the Docket System, I mean, I'm interested to know if it, if it fits into this as well. I would think that it would. I mean, because why wouldn't it? Yeah, you know.

Yeah. And I had to— I mean, I had to design my own battery station for my garage.

Right, you did. Um, which kind of, like, kind of looks similar to some of this stuff.

Oh, I need to look at it because, like, I, I, I was in a situation where I had— I mean, gosh, I've— I think I've got like 15 different batteries now because I've got so many of these things.

Yeah.

Um, and I be— every time I get a new tool, it's like, well, we'll just throw in a charger. And I'm like, what's up? I don't need another charger. So I just made a wall of chargers.

Yeah. Um, well, I mean, because if you're doing very much work for any long-term period, you need more than one battery. Figuring out how to charge them is— I mean, and they've got some great, some great systems for which to do that with, where you can—

Yeah, they have like the 6-in-1 that you can buy.

Exactly.

But I mean, like, at this point I have 6 of them.

Yeah.

I don't need to go spend another $150 to buy their charger that does the exact same thing that I can put on my wall.

Sure.

Because each one of those, if you look on the back of those chargers, they usually have a wall mount on them and it just takes a screw. They're not heavy.

No, they're not bad at all.

So I mean, the— even with the battery in it, they're not that heavy. So, you know, You, you can make it work. I may take a picture of mine and post it up.

The difference between some of those and like what you're talking about though is, I mean, you've got multiple things to plug in where their charger just has one plug, you know. It's like a, it's like an outlet, right? Strip outlet.

What's it called? Is that power outlet?

Power outlet strip? I don't know.

Power strip.

I'm losing all my words. I can't think of the words. I hadn't even had any— some— any— see, nothing to drink.

I'll find it now. If not, I'll make up one. It'll become canon.

I'm fine with that. All right, well, what, what have we, uh, not talked about whenever it comes to this thing?

I think that's it. I mean, the only thing that I'm not really seeing integrated, uh, I mean, like, it, it shows in the pictures that it has for this thing, it shows the lawnmower on the wall. Yeah, but I don't see anything that shows me other than like it's just propped up against the wall.

Yeah, to me it looks like it's propped up against the wall. And if you look closely, um, it looks like the way— and I— we don't have one of these things, so we don't really know, but it looks like the way the handle folds down, there's like little feet that keep it from rolling, tilting from— yeah, so it's, it's got It basically stands on end. That's what it looks like to me.

That would be cool, dude. Did I tell you that, um, I saw it was a— it was a 52-inch, uh, electric, uh, zero-turn Cub Cadet the other day?

Oh really? Cub Cadet?

Yes.

Huh. I mean, I've seen the EGO, I've seen— I know Greenworks has one. Um, Ryobi has one too now, right?

Yes, they do. It's not, it's not that big, right?

But I've not seen the Cub Cadet one.

I, I, yeah, I saw them the other day and you can tell that they're the electric because they're almost indistinguishable, uh, unless you know what you're looking for. And they have like blue labeling on them, you know, because Cub Cadets are usually like yellow. Yeah, but it's, it's the same yellow body as all the other Cub Cadets, but it's got blue labeling on everything.

Aren't all Cub Cadet labels blue?

No.

They're black?

Usually, yeah. Okay. So they've— and it's not— it's, you know how like it's like Cub Cadet but like it's like a black label with like white lettering?

Yes.

So it's still black, but like they've got like a blue outline to everything.

Interesting.

On it to indicate that it's—

It's electric.

It's electric.

Yeah, I like that. I, I I had a Cub Cadet before I bought, um, the lawnmower that I currently have, and I loved that thing, man. I mean, they're— that's a great lawnmower line.

Yeah, I've had nothing but good from mine.

Yeah.

Um, the, the— well, particularly the motor on it, which I was surprised by, which is a Kohler motor.

Oh yeah. Um, interesting.

And I, you know, like, I've, I've been a fanboy of Honda motors for years and years and years and years. And it was really difficult for me to buy something that didn't have a Honda motor on it for my lawnmower. But this Kohler motor has been fantastic.

Yeah, that—

And I think most everybody else that kind of goes the, uh, Briggs Stratton—

Briggs Stratton, that's what I've got. And I— and it's a— it has— the one I've got currently as a Briggs Stratton, it's okay. I think they can sometimes be hit or miss, but the Hondas have always been—

That's, that's kind of my point is Briggs Stratton, like, I don't think they're a bad engine, but I can, I can definitely tell that you were shopping on price when I see a Briggs Stratton motor on whatever it is that you've got. It's not to say it's a bad motor. I've, I've had Briggs and Stratton motors. They're good motors. Yeah, Hondas are better.

Sure, every time. Yep. It's why they, they drive like 400,000 and 500,000 miles, right? That's— I mean, it's a long way to take your lawnmower, but it's worth it. All you gotta do is change the oil.

I, I would argue that small, small engine Hondas are better than the Honda motors in cars.

Sure, I would too.

I mean, I, I've just— I've never seen one go bad that's been taken care of, right?

So I grew up— put that little asterisk in there.

Yeah, thank you.

I actually grew up, uh, my dad always had John Deere lawn mowers, push mowers, and they were always great because, I mean, they had those, those John Deere motors in them where they were really good. I think that they eventually kind of went downhill, but, um, yeah, at one point they were really good.

You, you nowadays, you just— you're, you're paying a lot of money for green paint.

Oh yeah. And John Deere green.

Just get you a Honda motor and paint it green. Yeah, well, it's a lot of work. Yeah, that's less money.

That's true, that's true. You gotta go buy that Kelly Green.

You know, it's, it's kind of like if you want to wear those brand name clothes, sometimes you got to go to the resale shop.

That's so true. Go to Dillard's, whatever, they got the 66% off. That's right, that's the only way you get that. All right, man. Uh, well, cool. I think that about does it. Thanks for downloading today's episode. We have had a blast telling you about the new Ryobi Link system, and hopefully it'll be coming out soon. Whenever it does, we'll let you know and, uh, put a link in our, in our show notes for it. But, uh, Craig, you got anything else?

No. If you haven't yet, go ahead and click the follow, the bell, the click thing, the thumbs, the whatever, you know, follow the show.

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