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Dive into the vibrant world of The Homeowner Show! Host Craig Williams, joined by a dynamic lineup of industry leaders, explores the power of networking with "El Jefe's" from various "Net" groups. Discover how new and established chapters like Gold Standard, Front Porch Crew, and Breakfast Club are fostering genuine connections and driving business growth through community and shared experiences. Learn about the unique cultures within each group, from the family-focused Willis team to the educational approach of Peter Catalano's Online Team and the authentic vibe of Jackie Parker's Net Worth…

Get ready to be inspired by entrepreneurs like Matt Dawson, Tasha Lowe, Brian Richardson, Kyle, Peter Catalano, Laurie Mazikas, Mark Smith, Joey O'Neal, and Jackie Parker as they share their business journeys and insights. From pest control and digital marketing to legal services and financial planning, uncover the diverse expertise within The Net. Don't miss the upcoming visitor days and special events, like the Breakfast Club's cook-off and the Connection Crew's 80s-themed gathering. Tune in to learn how these powerful networks are shaping local economies and building lasting relationships.

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CRAIG

This is The Homeowner Show, live with the net here at Sawyer Park. We're excited to be here with you guys tonight. We're gonna have a lot of fun. We got a lot of fun guests. We're gonna have a good time. So whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to bring you the best information and options for you and your home. And tonight, your host Craig Williams gonna be doing the interviews solo 'cause Kevin is off in fancy pants land, California. That's right. Having a good old time. So, but right now I've got a guest. And guys, we're going to have— we're going to be live. I think we're probably going to go like 2 hours tonight. So just buckle in and get ready to have a good time. We're going to sit down with all of the

CRAIG

presidents, the El Jefes, if you will, of the net. All the different teams are going to— well, most of the teams are represented here tonight. The ones that didn't make it, well, they just don't get all the advertising that the rest of them do. So right now I'm going to— I'm going to bring on the screen my good friend, Mr. Rudy. How you doing, bud?

Rudy

I'm doing fine.

CRAIG

How are you? Doing good, bud. So you're the first, first on deck, man. So you got to, you got to set the tone.

Rudy

I'm gonna set the standard.

CRAIG

So you, you are actually, you know, captaining one of our newest teams, right? Gold Standard?

That is correct.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Rudy

Yeah.

CRAIG

How's that going?

Rudy

It's going great.

Mark Smith

Yeah.

Rudy

We've had 2 meetings already this year. Our first 2 official.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Rudy

And each one of those has been It's been well. I know our kickoff meetings were strong. I think our first kickoff meeting had about 60 people, and it just grew from there.

CRAIG

Dude, that's incredible.

Rudy

We started the team off with about almost 20 people.

CRAIG

Dude, that's awesome. So what makes— what do you think that was? I mean, because I don't know that any of the other teams that the N.E.T. has have had that many people at their kickoff. I mean, like, why do you think yours had such good traction from the get-go? I mean, you can take full credit if you want. I mean, like, it's just me. It's just me.

Rudy

I wish I could say that. I think it's a huge combination of things. It was the right time for that specific location to open.

CRAIG

And which, which is what part of town, by the way?

Rudy

Spring, Texas, right at Rayford and 99.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

Rudy

We're at Community Fieldhouse the first and third Thursday of the month from 11:30 to 1 for our meeting, and then we have a lunch at the same time on the second Thursday of the month.

CRAIG

Okay, so I mean, y'all are getting together 3 times a month, but 2 of them are just like— those are the official meetings?

Rudy

Correct.

Okay.

Rudy

But the location and the, the leadership team that we started out with, I know it's changed a little.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Rudy

Due to some amazing changes with the net.

Whitney

Yeah.

Rudy

But we still have such a strong leadership team that involved and just willing to help.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, it definitely seemed like that was a part of town that we hadn't like tapped into yet.

Rudy

Correct.

CRAIG

You know, and so like, I think, I think that was a big part of it for sure. I mean, like, I, I think you live pretty close to there, right?

Rudy

I do.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

CRAIG

I think that was the case for like a lot of people, was like, hey, this is super convenient, this is close to my house, it's close to where I work.

Rudy

Um, it was an untapped market as well.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's cool.

Rudy

And we're, we're setting the cornerstone for the other teams. I hope to be able to bring people there that maybe we don't have a home for them there, but we have the other spring teams opening and they're just as amazing. But we're here to talk about us.

CRAIG

That's the new one. Uh, I think I'm talking to them like, I think they're very last tonight that I'm talking to. Um, but they're good. They're meeting here, right?

Rudy

I'm not 100% sure. I know they're doing a brunch here.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Rudy

The 2nd and 4th Thursday, but you'd have to ask.

CRAIG

Yeah, we'll find out.

Rudy

Sure.

CRAIG

We'll do some investigating. So, well, what— okay, so talk to me a little bit about being president of a group, because I, you know, it's— I think for a lot of people walking into it, you know, that could seem like an overwhelming kind of thing.

Joey O'Neill

Is it?

CRAIG

I mean, like, do you— is it a lot of pressure? I mean, do you Do you struggle with it?

Rudy

There's some pressure the night before the meeting.

CRAIG

Are they all going to show up?

Rudy

No, it's— I mean, what did I miss on the slide? Or waiting on somebody else to enter their information, give us their information. Obviously, you know, we want things on time, the presentation, if they want to present. But we also know that they're human and And we have— everyone has something going on, or kids, businesses to run. So we do understand. But just knowing that everyone is okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, I got you.

Rudy

Getting what they want out of the team, you know, getting what they need out of the team. Am I doing right as the president sometimes? Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Well, and like, you know, when you join a networking group, I mean, obviously one of the big things you're looking for is business. Like, you want to, you want to expand your reach as a business owner, as an operator, all those different kinds of things. But what are the other value things that, you know, specifically the Gold Standard, like, what do you guys bring to the table that is so attractive to new people joining in?

Rudy

We have such a huge mixture of people that have years of networking experience, months of networking experience, months, weeks. You know, it's, it's very diverse. Some that have been networking for a long time but are new to the NET. I've been a part of the NET thankfully since 2022. It was my first real experience with networking and I had dabbled in other, other 3-letter words.

CRAIG

They who must not be named.

Rudy

Is that—

CRAIG

I got you.

Rudy

And it taught me a lot. But what called to me was the net.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Rudy

And, and if I can share that with people every time they come, or even right now, what it's done for me, my business, my family, my life, that's what I'd love to share. And then I don't want to sit there and tell them every single time. I want to show them. Yeah, I feel that that's what our team allows, right? I've had a one-on-one with everyone in my team already, and it's a new team. I think I try to— I'm missing Dave. He's kind of hard to get, but we'll get to him.

CRAIG

So he's in the crosshairs.

Rudy

Yeah, and we're about to approve 2 more people. We just had a went on, I mean, an interview with last week. We have another interview coming up, so, so we're growing strong.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Rudy

And I think people see that when they come, right?

CRAIG

Well, are there, are there any big chairs open right now that you guys are, are looking to fill? Is that, is that it? Is that my phone? Do you guys, do you guys have all your trades?

Rudy

Remember, you remember you asked What does the president do when he's stressed out? That is not something that I did. That is something that I passed off to one of my amazing leadership teams, and they created an amazing graphic and slides. So I have to make sure that they do well.

CRAIG

I got you. I got you. So, well, I mean, do you— is your team more trade-heavy or is it more service-heavy? Is it You know, because like—

Rudy

We have a huge mixture.

Peter Catalano

You do?

Rudy

Yeah, we, we do have lawyers. We have one lawyer right now, another one just applied, so they're creating their referral team. We are— we have about 5 or 6 service-based construction trades. We have insurance.

Kaylee Ingram

team.

Rudy

It's steadily growing there. So yeah, yeah, we have a huge diverse, and we're still trying to grow. We understand that not everyone's gonna make it though.

CRAIG

What do you mean not everybody's gonna make it?

Rudy

Not everybody fits the team.

CRAIG

Okay.

Rudy

There's other teams that might fit them better for, for the time, fit them better for the vibe, the environment.

CRAIG

Yeah, because you guys, you guys are a lunch crowd, right?

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. And for some people that, that doesn't work because they're, I mean, they're working straight through lunch, or, you know, guys like me, like, I'm usually just, you know, I can't, I can't always be on the same side of town during that time of the day. It's really difficult for me. And so like mornings and evenings tend to work out better, but that doesn't mean that it's a bad group. It's just this Like, I can't, I can't commit to being to a group where I can't be consistent, you know, because that's, that's when I bring value to the team, is if I can consistently be there for everybody, you know. And that's, I think that's one of the things that

CRAIG

makes, makes The Net a little bit different, is it's not as rigid as a lot of other networking groups, meaning like we only meet twice a month, right?

Correct.

CRAIG

Whereas Other groups, I mean, like, you've got to be there every week and like, you have to be there. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it, you know? And what I, what I love about y'all is there's flexibility there. There's, there's valuing the time away from the group, you know, for your family, for your business, to actually give those things a chance to breathe, you know, and have time to rest.

Peter Catalano

Which—

CRAIG

what a novel idea for You know, for a lot of people who are like solopreneur, you know, like they're, they're everything in their business. And so putting requirements on them outside of that, man, it's driving them to the grave even quicker. Yeah.

Rudy

So no, I think it does attract a lot of people, right? They think, okay, only twice a month, that's only 24 times a year. But what I love about this, man, Look at us now.

Mark Smith

Yeah.

Rudy

Here we are, the 4th time or the 5th time or the 6th time I've been to a net event this month. It's not because I'm sitting here just trying to get business from everyone, although that is the goal. But it's making these connections with these people that I would not have a connection with.

CRAIG

Sorry, somebody was asking me a question. I wouldn't say no to you.

Jackie Parker

You're good.

Rudy

Oh, it's not about connections.

CRAIG

No.

No, Rudy.

CRAIG

No connection.

Rudy

But it's, it's different people that you wouldn't connect with.

CRAIG

Yeah, well, I'm getting, I'm getting the signal to kick you off. Um, real quick, let everybody know your business and, and, and remind everybody what you do.

Rudy

My name is Rudy with RC Pressure Washing TX. We're based out of Spring, Texas, but we go all over the area.

Awesome.

Rudy

Commercial pressure washing, soft washing, from bulldozers to buildings. We wash your crime away.

CRAIG

Awesome.

Laurie Mazikas

Thanks, bud.

Peter Catalano

Good to see you.

CRAIG

All right, guys, we are carrying on here. We got our next guest rolling in. We gotta, we gotta move one guy in and get another guy back up to the microphone. Um, but encourage you to hang in there with us as we transition. How you doing, Hans? This one right here. All right, so let everybody know who you are.

Matt Dawson

Uh, my name is Matt Dawson with Dawson Security Group, and we are a part of the Willis chapter of the N.E.C.

CRAIG

Yeah, either scoot that up a little bit closer or scoot yourself up.

Matt Dawson

I'm gonna scoot myself up.

Peter Catalano

There you go.

CRAIG

Just get right up on that thing. All right, so you're from the— is that the Front Porch Crew?

Matt Dawson

That is the Front Porch Crew, yeah.

CRAIG

All right, and when do you guys meet?

Matt Dawson

Uh, we meet on the first and third Tuesdays of every single month at 11:30 AM.

CRAIG

And where are you guys meeting now?

Matt Dawson

Uh, well, we have 2, uh, 2 locations. Primarily we meet at the, uh, the Corral that's in Willis.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

Matt Dawson

Uh, it's a very, very nice little homestyle cooking, uh, joint that you can get all your chicken fried steak.

CRAIG

And there you go, that's what I get later in life. Talking my language, chicken fried steak.

Matt Dawson

Uh, for our larger our larger group meetings, like for this upcoming Visitors Day, we, we meet at the— forget what it's called— the Union Ranch.

CRAIG

What's that?

Matt Dawson

It is a wedding venue. Oh, one of our members' family owns.

CRAIG

That's cool.

Matt Dawson

It's very nice, very private. So whenever, whenever we have a large service that we like to hold, that's, that's where we run off to.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

Matt Dawson

Now out in the boonies, it's a really nice place.

CRAIG

So is it exclusively a wedding venue or do they do other stuff there?

Matt Dawson

Uh, it— I'm fairly sure it's just a wedding venue.

CRAIG

Okay, very cool. Well, and so like, I— you're— I mean, you've kind of been around about a year now, right?

Matt Dawson

Uh, yeah, a little bit longer than a year.

CRAIG

Yeah, okay. So what, what initially attracted you? Because I know you're not the president of the Willis Group. What's your role on the team now?

Matt Dawson

I'm VP.

CRAIG

VP, okay, awesome. You're handing all the data?

Matt Dawson

As, as much as possible.

CRAIG

As much as possible. Do you find that to be intuitive? I mean, like, is that— I mean, you're in security, so I imagine there's a certain amount of data you have to deal with, but I mean, is the amount of data that we're putting on you guys, is that manageable? Does it feel overwhelming?

Matt Dawson

No, to be honest with you, Edwin and Brenda with Brave Fierce have done a phenomenal job with the backend of the system. It is very easy to calculate everything. Like with any growing project, there's always quirks that you gotta iron out, but it's been really, really easy to manage and everything is right there. Putting in your leads and ringing the bell is a very simple process.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, is it kind of drag and drop for slides and different things like that?

Matt Dawson

I mean, yeah, for slides. I mean, we like to do things our own way in Willis a little bit, so The girls have a fun time being a little bit creative with their, with their graphic design. But it's—

CRAIG

yeah, it's—

Matt Dawson

I mean, as far as our slideshow is concerned, I mean, it's that, that's fairly easy and screenshot something, throw it up on the, on the projector and it's good to go.

CRAIG

Nice. What do you think makes the Willis team different? I mean, like, what makes it unique?

Matt Dawson

Well, I mean, I've visited and been around for a little bit now and gone to almost every single team and What attracted me to the Willis one is it's very family-oriented. As you know, The Breakfast Club, for example, they, uh, that is very business-oriented.

Peter Catalano

Yes.

Matt Dawson

Which is perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But I, I like to gravitate towards people that I want to get to know, not only on a business level to do one-to-ones with and things like that, but I want to be able to outside of work know that, hey, I can call my buddy Jeff and we can go on a motorcycle ride if we wanted to.

Peter Catalano

There you go.

CRAIG

Jeff's your payments guy, right?

Matt Dawson

Yeah, yeah, Jeff McKinney with Mac Payments. There's your plug, buddy.

CRAIG

No charge.

Matt Dawson

That's right.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, like, what do you guys do anything outside of like your regular meetings?

Matt Dawson

Oh yeah, Cassie and Nicole are always hanging out doing something with the kids, and they recently just went to skating rink. And, uh, you know, like I said, I'm going on motorcycle rides with Jeff on a consistent basis. And, uh, Cassie hangs out with Jeff as well. She's, uh, she's his, uh, cleaning lady.

Okay.

Matt Dawson

She actually does all the organization and everything. She's our president, but, uh, it's her, uh, her business is fantastic and Jeff uses her. And, you know, it's, it really is a a little bit more tight-knit than whenever you get 20 to almost 30 businesses in a group. We like to keep things a little bit smaller.

Jackie Parker

Okay.

Matt Dawson

And not that we don't welcome guests and even new members, but we're a little bit more picky of who we bring into the fold.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, Willis is just a different area.

Matt Dawson

It is.

CRAIG

I mean, it's growing.

Matt Dawson

It is. It is absolutely growing. It's exploding ever since they put that H-E-B in there. Yeah, everybody knows in Texas, once the H-E-B goes in, the entire demographic changes.

CRAIG

Yeah, well, and they know, they know that stuff's coming if they're bringing the H-E-B there.

Mark Smith

That's right.

CRAIG

Is that, I mean, is that kind of what makes y'all's group a little more exciting? I mean, the fact that there's so much growth and potential for everybody?

Matt Dawson

Yes, that is absolutely one of the things that drew me to that specific location. Uh, it's— The Woodlands is getting overcrowded, in my opinion. I work in it almost every single day. It's not that I can't be a part of The Woodlands group or one of The Woodlands teams, but, uh, Willis has this unique opportunity where everyone is moving out north.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Matt Dawson

And, uh, if you can get a foothold in right now with any sort of business or relationship outside of work, it is, it is highly beneficial for you to get into that specific market right now, because 5, even 10 years down the line, the people that have grown right now, their, their name is going to be solidified for the next 30 to 40 years.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we, uh, there, there's a couple businesses that I know that kind of moved to Willis years ago, kind of trying to get away from it, and, and now they're just sort of being enveloped by it. Yep. I mean, it's, it's insane, man. It's, it's really crazy how fast it's growing. I mean, it is like it was in Conroe, you know, 2 or 3 years ago where I think Conroe was like the fastest growing city in the United States like 2 years in a row. And I think that just rolled right on over to Willis.

Matt Dawson

It really has. I live in Conroe, work in The Woodlands, and I participate in the net within Willis. And so I, I'm back and forth, up, down, up and down that 45 corridor all the time.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Matt Dawson

And you're absolutely right. Conroe exploded in its still exploding.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Matt Dawson

And then they're tearing down all the old stuff in the inner city of Conroe, building more stuff. And it's, it's growing. And it's all reaching out towards the Willis area. So all that, all that farmland is eventually going to get developed into big old apartment complexes.

CRAIG

I'm not looking forward to it. Yeah, no, it's not my favorite thing either. But it is what it is. I mean, you're not— there's no stopping it. So, well, are there any big chairs, seats that you guys are looking to fill?

Matt Dawson

Quite a few, being that we're one of the smaller teams inside the net. It's, it's very difficult. We actually just got our realtor. We do not have a lawyer yet. We're still looking for a health insurance person. There's, there's quite a few chairs that are still open within our chapter. But as far as, as far as getting, uh, getting that right person, that's what we look for.

Laurie Mazikas

Gotcha.

CRAIG

Awesome. Well, I mean, are you guys, are you guys pretty full up on trades? Plumber, electrician, roofer?

Matt Dawson

Yeah, we, we have all of that. Uh, we have Justin as our electrician. Um, we have an HVAC, JoJo. Obviously can't forget JoJo. But yeah, yeah, our trades are almost filled all the way up. Okay.

CRAIG

Awesome, man.

Matt Dawson

Well, cool.

CRAIG

Well, um, before I let you go, I want to make sure and let— give you the chance to tell everybody what you do. I mean, you're not just, just a member floating around in the net.

Matt Dawson

Well, again, my name is Matt Dawson. Uh, I am a second-generation locksmith and security professional for Dawson Security Group. Been doing this for, in March, 20 years, believe it or not.

CRAIG

Dude, that's fantastic.

Matt Dawson

Yep, congrats. And recently went Went back to the family business after taking a little bit over a year off and doing my own side business thing. And during that time, joined the net and kind of flipped roles back and decided, you know what, this is a fantastic group of people and I want to bring my family into this family.

CRAIG

That's awesome, man. Well, we're glad to have you. Appreciate it.

Peter Catalano

Awesome.

CRAIG

I'm gonna let you go so you can go meet some folks, meet people and make some money, hopefully. Appreciate it, Kurt.

Justin

What's up, dude?

CRAIG

Good to see you, bud. All right, guys, we're trucking along here at the Sawyer Ice House. Sawyer Park Ice House. Hey, Marianne. Marianne. Marianne. Marianne. No, no, no, no.

Peter Catalano

Talk.

Joey O'Neill

No.

CRAIG

Marianne. Hang on. Okay.

Joey O'Neill

Marianne!

Matt Dawson

Yeah?

CRAIG

Hey, you guys, that's my friend right there that I wanted to—

KEVIN

Almost there.

CRAIG

Guy with the hat backwards? You want your hat to fall backwards? Yeah, if you don't mind, 'cause he's gotta get out.

Thank you for your help, whippersnapper.

CRAIG

Okay. There you go. Is this gonna be weird?

Peter Catalano

Absolutely.

Jackie Parker

Preferably.

Visitors Day.

CRAIG

Visitors Day.

Our team, where we meet, when we meet.

CRAIG

Visitors Day is something we're excited for in '26.

Oh, the Visitors Day. We're doing a cook-off, dude.

Jackie Parker

Awesome.

CRAIG

Can you, can you hear me? A little bit, yeah.

So do I need to put one of these on?

CRAIG

It'll help. It might not be— it'll be about as clear as mud. How's that? It'll help drown out some of the noise.

Not much, but that's fine.

CRAIG

Yeah. Can you hear me though?

Yeah, I can.

CRAIG

Okay.

Actually, I'm gonna sit here and act like I'm— come in, Tokyo. Tokyo, come in. How's my hair look?

CRAIG

Should I just take this and set it here and then do what you want, man? It's it's your time to shine. So well, tell let me let everybody know who you guys are and what group you're part of.

We're the Breakfast Club with the networking net, and that's as much as I know. But we're a networking group. that has a real strong homeowners and home services group. But we meet at Two Tones twice a month. It's the 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 7:30, 0700, the earliest meeting for any of these clubs. And we're, I think, at like 36 or 40.

CRAIG

I can't remember how many people in the group.

We were at 36 before our meeting on Tuesday. We added 3 members and then we just had another Okay, that's awesome.

CRAIG

You guys are— you guys have been trucking since you got started?

Yeah, we started the group in April of last year.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's, it's a fun— like, I, I love coming to y'all's meetings. They're just— I mean, y'all, y'all have a lot of— you have a lot of different energy than most of the other groups, for sure.

I love how you said that. That was cute.

CRAIG

Thank you. I strive for cute.

Mark Smith

Very endearing.

We do things different, but it's— we just have a lot of fun with it.

Rudy

Yeah.

CRAIG

What I mean, what, what do you guys think makes y'all's group so different? I mean, it is—

I think the family. It's not just like business, but it's intentional family. Yeah, we do a bunch of stuff outside of the networking. We all know and love each other, know, love, and trust. And then also—

CRAIG

stop it. Don't be nice to me.

I'll get offended.

CRAIG

He doesn't know what to do with that.

Laurie Mazikas

Stop it.

And then another thing is intentional and then selflessness. A lot of the people are already, if they haven't been, it's organic or intuitive giving. Like they're looking out for, I don't need to know anything. I've got these other 40 people who own their own businesses. They're already world-class.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

And then the thing is, be different. And the support team that I have as their president, and I blame them until I'm impeached. Is they?

CRAIG

Is that coming? You know he keeps asking to be. She's giggling like he doesn't know. No, actually. Which he can't wait. Can't wait to be fired.

He's almost like he's going to be a permanent sort of president-esque role. He's kind of you know he's the he's the he's the one that barks at people.

CRAIG

Dictator Emeritus.

Is that good?

Laurie Mazikas

Okay. Yes.

Oh my!

CRAIG

Here we go. My hegemony.

So.

CRAIG

But like what you mentioned, you mentioned that you guys do a lot of stuff outside of the group, and I've noticed that you guys have like unique things that you do together, which I think is very different from most of the other groups. I mean, you guys have a very community-minded vibe happening. I mean, there's like cook-offs and like just extracurricular stuff going on. I mean, like, is that difficult to manage or does that happen organically? I mean, how does that work for you guys?

We have a little subcommittee called the Phun Committee.

CRAIG

The Phun Committee?

P-H-U-N.

Mark Smith

Okay.

And that's something Brian started a long time ago. And we really strive to, you know, we have our 2 meetings that are the Second Report Tuesday. We also have an evening event at Two Tones once a month. It's the 3rd Wednesday of every month.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

And so this next one coming up is going to be February 18th. It's the Breakfast Club After Hours.

CRAIG

Yeah.

And it's from 5 to 7, and it's just like an open happy hour, open networking.

CRAIG

Okay.

And we also, you know, This last summer we did a murder mystery party on a pirate ship on Lake Conroe, and we all got dressed up. We had a Christmas party at the Colonel's House, our nonprofit, where everybody showed up.

CRAIG

His nonprofit actually won 200 Businesses That Care this year, right?

Victory for Veterans.

CRAIG

Victory for Veterans. Okay, thank you.

And every month we try to do something where we're getting together, whether we do Taco Tuesday, like every couple of weeks where we all just get together, whoever can make it, for lunch. Right. And so we're constantly doing all these little things to create that community within. When the freeze was happening last weekend, Brian and a bunch of people already had plans that, okay, if your pipes freeze, if your power goes out, like, they had things set up and ready to help everyone in our group or anybody that, you know, needed it.

CRAIG

Right.

To assist with that. So it goes so much beyond just our meeting. We did a dove hunting trip in September. We are going to be doing a skydiving trip after the cook-off, Montgomery County Cook-Off. We'll have a booth out there at the fair. You're expected to be there.

CRAIG

Hopefully not for the skydiving. I'll come for the dove, but—

Just bring hunger and we'll make you a judge. But we're also doing a Visitors Day on the 24th of February, and it's a lunch, 11 to 1. And last time we had 107. Oh my God, 107 visitors, which is kind of normal for our group. But yeah, we're serving brisket, ribs.

CRAIG

Are y'all doing that? Is it going to be at Two Tones? Okay, 100%.

Yeah, but it's not a morning meeting. It's a, it's a lunch. And our goal, it'll be a regular meeting, break our record. We want more than 107 people.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

CRAIG

Okay.

So invite everybody. come for the food.

CRAIG

Awesome. Well, I'm excited. Like, I plan on being there for Visitors Day because I think I missed the last one, and I don't, I don't plan on letting that happen again. So I was told that it was just the food was too good to miss. That was, that was the thing. And like, I know that, I mean, food is a big deal with your group for sure, right? I mean, like, this is, this is something, this is part of the culture that happens every time.

Which I have 2 links of sausage for you in the car, so don't get out of here.

CRAIG

This is why we're friends. It's like that. So, sorry, I'm getting the signal to move on here, but like, I want to, before you guys go, Breakfast Club, 7:30, which Tuesdays?

2nd and 4th.

CRAIG

2nd and 4th Tuesday, and then let everybody know who you guys are and what you do real quick.

I'm Tasha Lowe, and I'm a business development specialist at Better Bookkeepers. We're a locally owned bookkeeping firm. We have over 20 staff and over 250 clients in the area.

CRAIG

Fantastic. Brian?

I am Brian Richardson. I own the Richardson Group, and we— it's a boutique residential and commercial realtor group and top drawer. I just love doing that.

CRAIG

Yeah, you guys are fantastic. Both of you. So thank you guys so much for sitting down. Good luck. Good luck with your visitor day. I know it's going to break all the records and it's going to be delicious. Hopefully many, many cows are going to be consumed.

Matt Dawson

Yes.

CRAIG

All right.

Thanks for having us. Appreciate it, brother.

CRAIG

All right, y'all.

They have a tap for you?

CRAIG

Yes, they do.

Same thing?

CRAIG

Yes, please. Come on, Kyle!

Justin

What's up, bro?

CRAIG

How you doing, bud?

Justin

Sorry I was late.

CRAIG

Dude, you're good. Oh, the show, the show went on without you.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

CRAIG

All right, here, let me get us both in here. Hang on.

Peter Catalano

You're good. There we go.

Justin

Is it being filmed?

CRAIG

Yes.

Peter Catalano

Are there cameras?

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, there's one there. Oh my gosh.

Justin

Yeah, yeah, you're legit.

CRAIG

I try. I mean, like, look. I think somebody actually hit that one. I need to fix that one here in just a second.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Um, what's going on, dude?

Matt Dawson

Nothing much, man.

Justin

Living the dream.

CRAIG

So we've never actually had you on the show before, so this is exciting. I don't have a whole lot of time, but I want to get to as much of it as I can. Tell everybody what you do because I know you got a couple different businesses. Yeah, so fire away.

Justin

Yeah, man. Um, our mission number one is marketing, uh, with a mission, and we have an orphanage in Guatemala that is the core of everything that we do, and we have multiple businesses that support, in a sense, that, that mission. Uh, we have a digital marketing firm called Zion Digital with the sole purpose of, if you want to dominate your space, we are going to be the ones to help you to dominate your space. We're not just simply doing SEO or, you know, different, you know, tactics. We're really going above and beyond to film you, post for you, run all your SEO, run all of your, you know, your full digital, and making sure that you are the number one person that people think about. Um, that feeds our orphanage as well.

Yeah.

Justin

Um, and then I have, you know, multiple other businesses, but, you know, yeah, we don't have to go there.

CRAIG

What did you get?

Justin

Did you say the Snowball Stands?

CRAIG

Okay, I was gonna say, yeah, I have a travel company out of Guatemala.

Justin

It's a security bodyguard travel company. Um, a couple other things.

CRAIG

So, I mean, we, we've gotten connected through a couple different people, Sean being one of them.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

CRAIG

And then my wife being the other one who's actually been down to your place. So good. I mean, like, and she can't wait to go back. Yeah, it's going to be amazing. She's so excited about it. And like, her words to me when she came back is, Craig, this guy has figured out not just how to run an orphanage, but how to transform a city.

Justin

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

So, I don't know if she said that out loud to you.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, yeah, she said it.

CRAIG

I mean, she says it about you all the time. And she said it's just incredible to walk around with you when you go through the city, because you literally know everybody's name.

Rudy

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

So, and you don't— that doesn't just happen, that takes time. Yeah, I mean, because one, you're a giant white dude.

Justin

Yeah, that's scary to a lot of people with tattoos.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, because like, one, you're not short.

Yeah.

CRAIG

And everybody down there pretty much is.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, like, you got to be kind of intimidating, but they love you.

Justin

Yeah, no, she, she said that. And, um, I guess it kind of will awaken this mindset of like, oh yeah, like, that is kind of what we do. We aren't just an orphanage. But, um, you know, both of my parents died by the time I was 13. And so I was kind of this child that sat in the back for a little bit and nobody really saw me. And so I think that's really driven me wherever I go to see everybody, no matter what financial stature they're at, no matter what need levels they're at. I work with millionaires that are my clients that are some of the most miserable people. And then I work with, you know,

Justin

some of the poorest people ever and feeding them, and they're some of the happiest people.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Justin

And I say that it's all across the board. We're so focused on just seeing people, and we can change literally a village, a community, by simply just loving people and being them, you know, being there with them.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

CRAIG

And remind me, tell me the name of the orphanage again.

Justin

So we call it the Forgotten People Orphanage, but in Guatemala it's legally called God's Place for His Little Children.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so one of the— I think when people hear that, they probably hear You run businesses and all of the money goes to these orphanages and things like that. Like, like you're actually running successful businesses that are also supporting your family. Yeah, but supporting these kids over there.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Justin

So number one, our orphanage is fully self-sustainable.

Matt Dawson

Okay.

Justin

We have monthly donors and churches that support us monthly. So the orphanage sustains itself. My business of course, supports me and my wife and my family and, and my 21 employees, along with all the other businesses we have. What that funding is able to do is anytime that we're short with the orphanage budget, we can throw in money, which we do often.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Justin

Um, anytime, for instance, I built my own house in Guatemala because we wanted to make more room, and I didn't believe in taking money from the orphanage fund to build my wife and I a house for us to to stay in, right? Um, which we could have gotten away with building that, but we're really big on integrity. And so we actually use the extra funding from our snowball stands, from our security company, so on and so forth, to 100%, uh, do what we need to do.

CRAIG

Yeah. And, and my wife was just telling me, like, you built the house before you actually owned the property. Is that— is that true?

Whitney

Yes.

CRAIG

So, and you just got it?

Justin

Um, yes. There's a law where if you're in a property for a long period of time, yeah, that it's kind of yours. And this property has been kind of up in limbo. I built it by faith knowing that if that land was ever taken away from me, yeah, I believe in faith that it won't be and, and it's going to be ours.

CRAIG

That's awesome.

Justin

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

I love it, man. Well, so like, what— how did you guys even get started down there?

Justin

Yeah. Man, I was, uh, I got radically saved when I was 19. A year later, I, um, went to Guatemala on a missions trip with my pastor. He wanted me to film a documentary. I was just a camera guy behind the scenes.

Oh yeah.

Justin

And, um, I went there and my life was changed because, uh, there's a blind lady who would walk 3 hours each way to church no matter what, following her husband. And my heart broke because here we are in, for instance, Houston, where there's churches of all kinds all around every corner, and we kind of make it the way you like it, like Burger King.

Mm-hmm.

Justin

But there's people 2 hours away on a plane in Guatemala that rain or shine, they're walking 3 hours each way to church. And this lady's blind, and it changed my life. And I told myself, I'm going to dedicate my life to these people. And then through the course of us being there in Guatemala, Um, I kept seeing needs. Yeah, there's orphans that are literally suffering that I can tangibly help, right? Why would I not do that? And that's why I started doing that.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, just, just today my wife and I— I mean, like, hopefully no, like, Guatemalan officials are listening, but like, we were trying to figure out how to like smuggle mosquito control stuff to get to the orphanage because Brandy was like, these kids are getting eaten up with mosquitoes.

Justin

Yeah.

CRAIG

And like, we need to get some stuff in there so like we can get them under control.

Justin

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, you know, yeah, but like, that's, that's what happens when you radically step out in faith and then you begin to encounter other people who are operating in faith. You like want to come alongside them and say like, how can I help you?

Justin

Yeah, you know, yeah. Oh, absolutely. And it's, it's, um, it's what the Lord— the Lord tells us that when we take care of his orphan and his widow, that he will always reward us. And I believe honestly, and I don't do it for this, I could care less for blessings.

CRAIG

Okay, sure, sure.

Justin

Um, But I believe that my life is blessed because we have dedicated our lives towards the orphans and the widows.

Matt Dawson

It's been amazing.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, dude, that's incredible. So, well, and then on your, on your business side, because I'm— I've got like 2 minutes here before they're gonna— yeah, yeah, they're gonna bring out the hook and drag you off. Yeah, yeah. Um, what, what is it that you do? Because I've, I've seen a lot of your stuff. You do really, really good content. Like, what— how— what makes you different from the guys that are just running like digital agencies and like, you know, what is it?

Justin

Well, God's really blessed us with this mindset that we are not just this, um, digital marketing agency. I mean, there's thousands of them. And so what I did is I wrote on a whiteboard what, what do I not like about agencies— that they have one or two employees that barely get back to you if you email them, that they all pretty much do the same thing. And I'm not dissing them, I'm just There's no place for them, right? But what we've figured out is those agencies aren't willing to go out and film wherever they are in the United States, not willing to edit properly. And so really what we've done is built this engine where

Justin

we come behind business owners and we completely take away everything digital for them, even their email signatures, their email setups. We kind of become their IT department.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

Justin

Where we handle everything digital. You're driving by and you want to put a billboard up, Can you design this billboard? Yes, we've got it. We kind of become this all-in-one, but with the focus of we want to make sure that you are dominating the space. And sure, we could do that with ad spend, but that's a never-ending cycle. If you took a steroid shot in your body, you're going to be buff within a month, okay? That's what ads are. My goal is to make sure that that body of the marketing is actually healthy, posting every single day, posting content that in 1.2 seconds is going to get attention. Being different, being creative, and that's what makes us really

Justin

different, why people continue to come to us, because we do that.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

I, I literally drove by you one day and you had a guy out in a parking lot laying on a mattress doing a shoot. I don't, I don't remember who that was, but I was like, but I was like, that's gonna kill, that's gonna kill.

Justin

Yeah, that's, uh, Mattress Today.

CRAIG

Mattress Today. Okay.

Justin

$1,488. Yeah, I know, whatever that was.

CRAIG

It's $2,978 and you're $1,488.

Justin

I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, but it got us, it got their attention 1.2 seconds.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Justin

What's this? A lot of marketers— again, I'm not dissing— a lot of marketers fail to even meet that one aspect of 1.2 seconds to get their attention.

KEVIN

Yeah.

Justin

And it's only getting worse.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, man, I appreciate you coming in and making the trek down. Hopefully you get to meet some folks. We got a lot of good people gathered up here.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But I really appreciate you coming down. I gotta bring the next one on.

Whitney

Thank you.

CRAIG

Good to see you, brother.

Kaylee Ingram

See you, bro. Yes.

Justin

Hey, let me know where that's recorded.

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

All right guys, we are carrying on here at the, uh, at Sawyer Park Ice House. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, hang on, let me see here. Yeah, like I think this way. Yes, perfect.

Kaylee Ingram

I'm trying to find my flyer. I know what tonight tonight it's tonight.

CRAIG

You talking about yours? Yeah, I think so.

KEVIN

Are you sure?

CRAIG

I'm not sure.

Kaylee Ingram

Hey, friend.

CRAIG

I'm not the president.

Kaylee Ingram

I mean, I do know I did the flyer, but—

CRAIG

You made the flyer?

All right.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay, do I have to put these on?

CRAIG

If you want to hear.

Kaylee Ingram

I've never done this before.

CRAIG

Really?

Kaylee Ingram

Never ever.

CRAIG

Okay. It's my first time. Gotta break you in. So you want to get up nice and tight on that thing so people can see and hear your lovely self.

KEVIN

Hello.

CRAIG

So if you can hear you, they can hear you. That's kind of the rule.

Kaylee Ingram

So don't yell.

CRAIG

Say what?

Kaylee Ingram

Don't yell.

CRAIG

I mean, like, if it helps you hear you, you do you.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

CRAIG

So can you hear me okay?

Kaylee Ingram

Yes.

Okay.

CRAIG

Well, since you've never been on, why don't you tell everybody who you are, what you do?

Kaylee Ingram

I am Kaylee Ingram. I'm the president of the Net Elite. We— I also own Lucan Digital, which is a digital marketing firm. We're going into our 15th year of business. This year, so we're super excited about that.

CRAIG

I saw you fist bumping my buddy Kyle. Do you know him?

Kaylee Ingram

I just met him, but I know—

Peter Catalano

You just met him?

CRAIG

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

Through like what we do, because we kind of do the same stuff.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you— have you heard any of his story?

Kaylee Ingram

No, not yet.

CRAIG

Okay, you're gonna have to go back and listen. Like, it's— there's a reason I brought him on.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay, okay, awesome.

CRAIG

He runs an orphanage down in Guatemala.

Whitney

Oh wow. Oh yes, yes, yes.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. So, and he and my wife work together quite a bit.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay, so you have mutual friends.

CRAIG

Oh really?

Kaylee Ingram

He doesn't know this yet, but we have mutual friends.

CRAIG

Oh, did you like Facebook stalk him?

Kaylee Ingram

No, no, no, but I've seen him around.

CRAIG

Oh, you've seen him around?

Kaylee Ingram

I know his name.

CRAIG

Oh, okay.

Kaylee Ingram

In great ways.

CRAIG

Hopefully, hopefully in good ways. It's not like mugshots or anything like that. So you're president of the original Net Team? Yep. So pretty big deal.

Kaylee Ingram

I know, I'm so fortunate to be a part of the group because it's been life-changing for my business, you know, and I've built lifelong friends. So I'm really excited to be the president this year and just kind of bring that on and have a new fresh perspective and grow the team.

CRAIG

Life-changing is a strong adjective. What do you mean by that?

Kaylee Ingram

It really is. So I built my business out of necessity. I was pregnant with my daughter McKenna and my husband was getting into IT very early on. You don't make a lot of money in IT.

Whitney

Sure.

Kaylee Ingram

We were— we moved here to Texas with no family, and I knew that I wanted to stay home. I mean, when you're not making a lot of money, how are you gonna pay for daycare?

CRAIG

Sure.

Kaylee Ingram

So I used my skills that I had learned. I had a business background, business degree, and all of that, and I just used my skills to do one thing after another. It started with graphic design, then it led to, hey, can you build a website for me? And then it led to Hey, can you run some ads for me? Hey, can you do our social media? And so on and so forth.

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

But by these steps, by the time my children went to school, I had a full-fledged business under my belt.

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

So I was able to provide income to our family and find my passion.

Sure.

Kaylee Ingram

While raising my kids and not have to sacrifice. I was fortunate enough to not have to sacrifice being away from them. They've been with me on every conference. That I ever have done. Yeah. So McKenna could probably sell you a website. And, but yeah, they, you know, my— it's, you know, God, our family, and then our businesses. And that's really the pillars of our family. And that aligns with the pillars at the net. Yeah.

CRAIG

I'll tell you something that I've never said on this show before. My mom was an entrepreneur when I was a kid, and she did floral interior design.

Kaylee Ingram

Oh, wow.

CRAIG

And I went with her everywhere. And let me tell you, I can put together quite the bouquet.

Kaylee Ingram

I'm going to ask Brandy about that. But it's pivotal in those moments that you spend with them. You don't know that you're nurturing them and they're watching you. You know, my kids can hold a conversation with an adult.

Mark Smith

Right.

Kaylee Ingram

And that's really something you don't relish or you don't understand the importance of that until they're older and you see other kids maybe not doing that.

CRAIG

Struggling.

Mark Smith

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, because, you know, it's— I don't know, it's been impactful in more ways than one, and I'm seeing that as I'm growing further into my business.

CRAIG

That's awesome. So I got to ask you about your team, and I think it's going to be difficult to answer because like, you know, asking you like what makes your team unique, because this is the team that kind of birthed the 12 other teams that, that are, that are kind of here tonight. But like, what is it, what is it about the Net, I guess, in general, and then the Elite that just makes it special?

Kaylee Ingram

I just think we have, we have been blessed with like business owners that are passionate about their business, passionate about their families, and then passionate about the You know, and that all of our, our members, for the most part, all know what's going on in each other's lives, want to genuinely encourage, uh, their members. We want to genuinely know each other, right, and have genuine connection. And just that backing up of like being able to refer somebody and so on and so forth, we don't do it lighthearted.

Mm-hmm.

Kaylee Ingram

We do it because we know we put that time in. And I think that, that, you know, when people come into our group too, that's, you know, a big question that we ask, you know. Are you invested in networking? Why is networking going to work for you? And then how can we help you as well?

CRAIG

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

Like, we don't want to just know how are you going to help us. We want to know how we can help them too. Where are the struggles in their businesses? Is it marketing? Is it word of mouth? Well, this is great for you because that's We are your marketing team. Yeah. You know, and our team really understands that.

Jackie Parker

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, they have to. I mean, they're the one that started everything.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

Well, last year we were a million-dollar team.

That's fantastic.

Kaylee Ingram

In the net.

CRAIG

That's incredible.

Kaylee Ingram

We, you know, me and Corey Reeves, we were president. He was president last year. I was vice president. And we set out a goal and we achieved that. We far surpassed that. And we are just so proud of our team. It really, it could It's just great that we all work together. We all, you know, bought in on on supporting each other.

Whitney

Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, and like this, this may seem strange, but like I've asked everybody, are there any big chairs that you guys are looking to fill right now?

Kaylee Ingram

We need an electrician.

CRAIG

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

Healthcare. We have visitors day coming up on February ninth.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

At Hacienda Mis Padres. in Conroe off of 105. Really convenient if you get off 45 at 3083, turn right at the Walgreens, you're right there. Um, so we'll be— we, we have some other seats that we want to fill too, you know, that, yeah, you know, the net's growing so fast, so some team— some members are moving and things like that. So what may be available today might not, you know, be available, or maybe available.

Rudy

Sure.

Kaylee Ingram

You know, I have other Other things, but definitely we're looking for electrician, healthcare. Oh my goodness, I'm sure I can think, you know.

CRAIG

Did y'all fill the plumber spot?

Kaylee Ingram

We did.

Peter Catalano

You did?

Kaylee Ingram

We just brought on J&J Plumbing.

CRAIG

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

Um, so we're so excited to have them. He's a master plumber out of Livingston on Alaska, but he's—

Whitney

Oh, okay.

Kaylee Ingram

He serves all the way up there to South Houston.

Peter Catalano

Oh, okay.

Kaylee Ingram

And he does commercial and residential, so he's great.

CRAIG

Covers a big area then.

Kaylee Ingram

Huge area, great people. They're actually some clients of mine that I've known and friends that I've known for years, so it was a great fit. Everybody kind of liked them. But yeah, no, I think I would love to see some, some doctors or holistic care, you know, that's such a need in our area. Yeah, we have a huge— you know, we're right down the road from each other, right?

CRAIG

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

So yeah, kid care, things like that. I'm ready to meet everybody.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of other businesses that we traditionally just don't, aren't a part.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, or don't know that networking—

CRAIG

Can be valuable to them, yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

Can be valuable to them. If you don't know, you don't know.

CRAIG

Right, all right, so she's giving me the signal here. So, but again, remind people who you are, what you do, and then Hop on off.

Rudy

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

Keeley Ingram, Luke In Digital, bringing light to your digital needs. Visitors Day for The Net Elite, February 9th, 5:30 to 7:30. I'm sorry, 5 to 7:30. thenetnetworking.com, you can find all the information.

Matt Dawson

Awesome.

CRAIG

Thank you so much for sitting. Good to have you on finally.

Kaylee Ingram

I know.

CRAIG

Come on up. How you doing, girl? So yeah, I know it's not like hair friendly. It's just it's helpful to be able to hear.

Laurie Mazikas

All right, so I have to get close, right?

CRAIG

Yeah, as long as you can hear you, they can hear you. Okay, that's kind of the rule.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

CRAIG

All right, so you— I want to like— we have a, we have a rule in my house. We have a pillow on my wife and I's bed that says marriage is about winning. So I just need to let you know your husband has brought in some pretty big numbers for the show in the past.

Laurie Mazikas

That was years ago.

CRAIG

It's been a while, right? What are you talking about that old relic for?

Joey O'Neill

Yeah.

CRAIG

There's nothing wrong with a little competition. Yeah, no, not at all, not at all. Well, so let everybody know who you are and what you do.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay, so I am Laurie Mazikas. I am a personal trainer for women, for— I'm, uh, and also the president of the Connection Crew.

CRAIG

There you go.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah.

CRAIG

The newly installed—

Laurie Mazikas

Newly installed president.

CRAIG

How's that going?

Laurie Mazikas

So far so good. I've got an amazing group.

CRAIG

Yes, you do.

Laurie Mazikas

So they make me look really good. There are days I wake up and I'm like, wow, that went well.

CRAIG

Thank you, guys. Despite my best efforts, it went well.

Laurie Mazikas

It went well. I— yes, they are awesome. So I'm very fortunate.

CRAIG

So how long have you been president there now?

Laurie Mazikas

January, a whole month, a whole month, 28 days. Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. So what do you think is unique about the Connection Crew? I mean, like, one, I mean, like, I'll just say it, I think you guys are like the only one that meet in a classroom.

Laurie Mazikas

No, one other group does now.

CRAIG

Oh, do they really?

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, I don't remember the name. Platinum?

CRAIG

Platinum meets in a classroom.

Laurie Mazikas

They meet at Sam Houston too.

CRAIG

Are the conversations a little more intellectual? Is that—

Laurie Mazikas

do I need Yeah, we are smarter than all the other groups.

CRAIG

Do I need another degree to attend? Yes.

Laurie Mazikas

We are the smartest group. We have been there the longest. I think they should graduate us by now.

CRAIG

That's right. You should have gotten some sort of honorary degree.

Laurie Mazikas

Honorary degree in networking. Yes, we— in fact, maybe that'll be our Visitors Day theme.

Peter Catalano

There you go.

CRAIG

All our cap and gown.

Laurie Mazikas

Yes, the most educated crew. Absolutely. No, we are one of the oldest crews too.

CRAIG

Yeah, I think Connection was like the second team.

Laurie Mazikas

Second one, yeah. So we've been around for a long time. There's a lot of members in there that have been with the NET since the very beginning. That's really nice and really fun. They've got a lot of great experience. So, so yeah, good networkers, great facilitators, a lot of good connections. Can't beat any of that. It's really good stuff.

CRAIG

And you guys have a Visitors Day coming up as well?

Laurie Mazikas

We do. Ours is on February 19th.

CRAIG

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

And our theme is Adult Career Day.

Whitney

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

So everybody's gonna dress as their adult career, and we're gonna give some headshots away and some swag bags and have a good time.

CRAIG

Yeah.

All right.

CRAIG

So like, how do you do that? What's like— what is Adult Career Day? Is it like the thing you wanted to do or the thing you are doing?

Laurie Mazikas

The thing you are doing.

CRAIG

The thing you are doing.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, I liked the twist on the fact that most of us are small business owners. So the adult career is different than what you thought it would be, you know.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

So it's, um, and then I like the idea of like new people are coming in.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Laurie Mazikas

To get introduced to all these different opportunities and different businesses to grow their own career.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Laurie Mazikas

So.

CRAIG

Would it be fun or depressing to kind of do a then and now? You know, like when I was 5, I wanted to be a But now I'm—

Laurie Mazikas

Giving me ideas. Yeah, that would be really cool for our members to put it like on a wall or something.

CRAIG

You know, that could be like a fun guessing game. Like you could have everybody like write down what they wanted to be when they were a kid and everybody can guess who it was.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, that's a really cool idea. We may have to put that in. Thanks for that. A little more work for me.

CRAIG

I appreciate it. That's what you have VPs for.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, she might kill me too, honestly. I've given her a lot.

CRAIG

We put that in the handbook. She can't do it.

KEVIN

Okay.

Jackie Parker

Okay.

Rudy

Good.

Laurie Mazikas

I appreciate that. That was good protection because I will push my limit.

CRAIG

There's a lot of forethought on our part. Yeah, we had a violent vice president. Oh, gosh.

Laurie Mazikas

We have to put boundaries here.

CRAIG

He needed some guardrails. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, what is it that makes your group unique, though? I mean, like, is— I mean, is it where you guys meet? Is it the people? Like, what is it, I guess, that drew you to it? But what do you think makes it so unique that people want to be a part of that team?

Laurie Mazikas

What drew me to it was it felt so— everybody already there felt really connected and down to earth. It was easy to get to know people in it. So I really think that that's kind of the unique thing. When people come in, they tell us when they apply and we're interviewing them that we made them feel at home and at ease.

Jackie Parker

Mm-hmm.

Laurie Mazikas

So I think that's part of the charm of Connection Crew is that given that you've had members in there for so long, there's just like this flow and easiness to it, and it carries over into all the new members as well. So plus it's a lot of lighthearted fun and we enjoy ourselves. We don't take ourselves too seriously.

CRAIG

Okay, good, very good. Well, and so any— anything else big coming up that you guys are looking forward to other than Visitors Day?

Laurie Mazikas

Visitors Day is the big one, big one for sure.

CRAIG

Yeah, you guys have any big seats that are open that you guys are looking for?

Laurie Mazikas

Yes, we are looking for— we would love to get a general contractor in there. We need a plumber.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

We just lost our plumber to another group, so due to the Nets expansion, um, so we do need a plumber. Um, we need title.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

Um, pest control.

Matt Dawson

You need pest control?

KEVIN

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

Uh, we, we need a lot of— I wish I could help you there, but yeah, I know you're already stuck somewhere else. That's fine. Um, but yeah, we have a lot of, um, a lot of like the home centered services that are, that are open. We do have an electrician, we do have a roofer, but that's about it. Like everybody else, we need AC, HVAC. That would be amazing.

CRAIG

I do. I know, I know 2 GCs that are available that would be good for you guys. Yeah, so connect with me later on. I think one of them might actually be here tonight. Just looking around earlier to see if he was visiting because he visited, he visited one of my teams the other night, but he's looking for a team.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay. Yeah, we would love to have a GC. Yeah, that would be really good.

CRAIG

Those guys are great to have on the team. I mean, like, because they kind of—

Laurie Mazikas

I mean, connect everybody with everybody.

CRAIG

They're kind of like the realtor.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, yeah. And we've got a great realtor, but we need—

CRAIG

Who's your realtor?

Laurie Mazikas

Claudia.

CRAIG

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

Or Warner. She's right over there.

CRAIG

Hi, Claudia.

Laurie Mazikas

So yeah, she's been there for a while too. I think she's been one of like the OG realtor in the seat too.

Nice.

Laurie Mazikas

So, okay. Yeah. And we need like stuff for her, title, some loan, mortgage, that would be good too.

CRAIG

Yeah, for sure. I mean, like, those are all cohesive people that just feed each other.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, we've been very— ours is interesting. Another unique thing about our group is that we've got a very health-centered kind of group. We've got a gym, we've got a nutrition person, we've got vitamins and supplements, and then mine, personal training. Uh, we've got a therapist, we have a chiropractor, so We've got a lot of the health services, but now we need to integrate some more of the home services.

Matt Dawson

Okay.

CRAIG

Well, I tell you what, there's a pest control guy right there.

Laurie Mazikas

The lights are blinding me.

CRAIG

That's, uh, that's John right there. Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy. Okay, I'm gonna talk to him.

Laurie Mazikas

I will.

CRAIG

So, because he's not part of the net.

Laurie Mazikas

Awesome.

CRAIG

So, but I know him. Hook him in. Yeah, tell him I said so.

Laurie Mazikas

You're mine now.

CRAIG

So anything else?

Laurie Mazikas

No, I don't think so. We're excited.

CRAIG

Well, I know they're trying to shuffle people in and out, and I'm actually running out of battery.

Kaylee Ingram

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

So, but like, thank you so much for sitting down. Yeah, good to see you. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see if you win.

Laurie Mazikas

I know. Hey, I try. I didn't get as long as he did, so that doesn't count.

Kaylee Ingram

Look, that—

CRAIG

look, it's not about the time, it's about the quality.

Laurie Mazikas

The quality is there.

CRAIG

Okay, I don't know if that's a shot at him or you.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, right. Me either, honestly.

CRAIG

All right, thank you.

Peter Catalano

Good to see you, friend.

CRAIG

Hey, I've got—

Kaylee Ingram

I've got—

CRAIG

I can do one more and then I'm gonna have to stop and recharge. So, but like, I'll— it'll take me like 10 minutes to recharge and then I can get going again.

Whitney

How many?

Mark Smith

How many after?

CRAIG

Okay.

Kaylee Ingram

Hi.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's fine.

Right, there's nothing really a lot to talk about.

CRAIG

Yeah, do you mind using— I know it's not hair-friendly. It just helps you be able to hear. Really, the thing is, is like if you can hear you, then they can hear you.

Kaylee Ingram

So. Test it.

CRAIG

There you go.

Peter Catalano

There you go.

CRAIG

Test, test, test. See if I need to bring it up.

Joey O'Neill

All right.

CRAIG

All right.

All right.

CRAIG

Hi, I'm Greg. Hi, I think we've met over Zoom before.

We did. Yeah, yes, during my interview process.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Yes.

CRAIG

So how's, how's the rodeo committee?

I love it. In fact, I was going to talk to you about that tonight.

CRAIG

Good.

We needed to discuss what you were looking for.

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

So I knew who to get you in contact with.

CRAIG

I just want to be involved.

Okay.

CRAIG

So I grew up rodeoing, so it's like, I love it.

It's in your blood.

CRAIG

Anything in it.

Yeah.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Oh, that's awesome.

CRAIG

So my dad, if you're familiar with any of it, my dad was PRCA.

Whitney

Okay, yes.

CRAIG

Yeah, so he's a Bulldogger.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

CRAIG

So you're kicking off one of our newer teams, right?

Yes, correct.

CRAIG

So do you guys have a name yet?

Whitney

We do.

It's called the Hype Exchange.

CRAIG

The Hype Exchange?

Joey O'Neill

Yes.

CRAIG

How'd that come about?

We thought about it and we want to bring the hype to the team and create that momentum as well as exchanging business so that we can help each other grow. I love it. And also exchange into our community to help in different aspects in our community as well.

CRAIG

Okay, and remind me what you do.

Oh, I personally— my husband and I own Gulf Coast Pros, so we are a remodeling company.

CRAIG

Okay.

And also certified water mitigation restoration.

CRAIG

Okay, do you guys do like fire and mold and all that kind of stuff too?

Yes, fire, um, we're, we're getting into.

CRAIG

Really?

Yeah.

CRAIG

Are there like certifications or something?

Okay, different certifications from IRCR. Okay, well, that acronym I always get messed up on. My husband corrects me all the time. So yeah, it's the thing you have to have.

CRAIG

There's vegetable soup involved.

Whitney

Yes, exactly.

CRAIG

Well, and so you guys have— you guys have been recruiting in the recruiting process. You guys have been doing a business lunch, right?

Whitney

We are.

It's kind of a small brunch. What we're doing here is— it is Sawyer Park on the 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month.

CRAIG

I knew I was right. Somebody told me earlier, it's like, no, it's not here. It's like, I know.

We meet here on the 2nd and 4th Thursdays of each month at 10 AM to 11:30. And at the moment, we are very fresh. Yeah, we're coming right up. We just did our 2nd meeting.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

And so how have those gone?

CRAIG

How have those gone?

Whitney

They've gone great.

Our first meeting, we probably had We had a good handful of people that we knew, and then the second meeting we had around 24, 25 people.

Jackie Parker

That's great.

So, um, interests— people are already, um, sending in their applications. So, uh, we're bringing the hype.

CRAIG

There you go.

We're gonna, we're gonna build this and rock it.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so you're, you're GC, and then your partner in crime is a real estate agent?

Correct.

CRAIG

I mean, what else, what else are you guys— do you guys have already?

Heather Riche is also with Riche Plumbing, so we have that filled.

CRAIG

Okay. She's great.

Yes, she is.

CRAIG

She's amazing.

So right now, those are our members. So we're looking for all the others.

Mark Smith

Okay.

Anything that has to do in the real estate industry, in the medical industry, insurance inspectors. I mean, the sky's the limit. Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, you're in a great spot.

We are. And we can grow. Yeah, we have, we have no problem knowing that we can We'll never outgrow this place.

Kaylee Ingram

No.

So, but the people here at Sawyer have been awesome. I, I feel that the energy and the momentum in our group is definitely there, and so we just want to make sure we keep that foundation and build up on it and, yeah, be able to help others.

CRAIG

Well, being so new, I mean, what, what actually attracted you to the organization?

Oh gosh, that came from years ago. From people begging me to come and be a part.

CRAIG

Anyone in particular?

Maybe Robert Greene and David McGruffin and Emily— we won't say her last name.

CRAIG

Artifakovich. I got you. I knew exactly who you were talking about.

Yeah, so, and it also just timing. I've been involved in a lot of other networking groups. I've followed, I've followed the net, uh, since JoJo started this, what, 6 years now?

CRAIG

Yeah, pretty much.

Whitney

Yeah.

Um, so I've always wanted to have that opportunity to be a part. It just didn't, it didn't come together until now. And I know the reason why is this, this is what needs to be now.

CRAIG

Awesome.

So, um, I'm, I'm excited for this and excited for the opportunity and watching everybody to, uh, build and grow.

CRAIG

Yeah, well, we're excited for you. I mean, like, we're, we're excited to see what happens. Because we know that this is a great space, that you guys are fully capable of taking care of it, and it's just going to go gangbusters.

Yeah, there'll be surprises too. You never know what Kaya and I might be dressed as. Always keeps everybody on their toes. You don't want to miss the meeting.

CRAIG

Awesome, awesome. Well, uh, before you go, I mean, remind everybody what you do, uh, and how to get a hold of you.

Sure, absolutely. Again, I'm Lacey Martinez. My husband and I own Gulf Coast Pros. And you can reach me at 346-382-0099, or you can go to our Facebook page. It has all of our information as well.

Whitney

Awesome.

CRAIG

Thank you so much. Well, thank you, guys. We're going to take a quick break and be back in just a minute with even more fun interviews. See you in a minute.

Laurie Mazikas

All right.

CRAIG

We had a short break and we are back with my friend Peter. Peter, how you doing, bud?

Kaylee Ingram

I'm good.

Joey O'Neill

How are you?

CRAIG

It's been a minute since we've had a chance to chat.

Peter Catalano

It's been a long minute.

Matt Dawson

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

So how's that? Old-fashioned again?

CRAIG

It is an old-fashioned.

Peter Catalano

You did that last time.

CRAIG

Well, look, this is how you podcast.

Peter Catalano

This is how you podcast, is with old-fashioned?

CRAIG

Absolutely.

Peter Catalano

I love the way you think.

CRAIG

Is there another way?

Peter Catalano

I— you know what? I think I need to change industries. This whole financial planning thing just doesn't work. I'm going into your industry.

CRAIG

Well, yeah. I mean, well, look, you do have to do some financial planning if you're going to drink old-fashioneds while you podcast.

Peter Catalano

I like the way you think. Yeah, this is a whole new field for me.

CRAIG

Yeah, it may not be the plan that my wife was planning on, But there is a plan.

Matt Dawson

Details.

CRAIG

Yeah, that's right.

Peter Catalano

It's all right. She'll figure it out.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

Peter Catalano

Give it time.

CRAIG

So you are your head honcho of our online team.

Peter Catalano

I am head honcho of the online team.

CRAIG

How's that going?

Peter Catalano

Being head honcho is really great. I get to tell everybody what to do. They listen to me every time and they execute flawlessly every single time.

CRAIG

It's like the old Mel Brooks line, it's good to be the king. It's good to be the king. That was a great movie, by the way.

Peter Catalano

One of my favorite movies. Knight?

CRAIG

Never mind.

Peter Catalano

Piss boy. Anyways, yes, so yes, we have an online team. The net has an online team. All joking aside with Mel Brooks, the net has an online team. We run the online team. We meet Wednesdays, 11:30 to 12:30.

CRAIG

So kind of a lunch crew.

Peter Catalano

Little lunch crew. We expect you to be, you know, munching on food while you're in the meeting. Okay, it's really cool. We get into that and we basically, you know, refer just like anybody, any other team refers. We're online. We just— half of our team is logging in from their phones. 'Cause around the road, one of our team members had to go out of town for a while. Another one's moved up to the Austin area.

CRAIG

Oh, wow.

Peter Catalano

So, you know, we stay together and work together.

CRAIG

That was actually gonna be my— do you have to be in Texas in order to be a part of this team?

Peter Catalano

You know, I think that would be a great net question. As far as my team management, as head honcho—

CRAIG

Well, I mean, that's what I mean.

Peter Catalano

I meant for your team. For my team head honcho, I don't mind if they're out of Texas. I think the question is the quality of referral.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

So we need to look at this. The advantage to localized networking with all the net teams that are great teams out there and great localized networking out there, there's an inherent, hey, I know you, I see you, I go to the bar, I go to the church or whatever. There's that familiarity. When you're online, you don't have quite that same connection, right? Which makes sense, right? You're spread apart. I would need to know if they're from another state or even country Do they have the ability to refer and contribute to the team?

KEVIN

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

Right now I have a good friend who's down in South Africa, and I would have no trouble with him on the team because most of his business is done in the United States.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

So he can refer easily in the United States.

CRAIG

He just doesn't live here.

Peter Catalano

He just happens to live in South Africa.

CRAIG

I think that's reasonable.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

CRAIG

So I mean, like, other than being online, is there anything about your team that makes it unique? I mean, being online is a different thing for most of our groups.

Laurie Mazikas

Sure.

CRAIG

Elephant in the room. But like, what else makes it special?

Peter Catalano

I think the ability to be able to pop in. I think the ability to have a lot of freedom of where you're at, I think, is what I look for. I like time freedom.

CRAIG

Sure.

Peter Catalano

So, one of the reasons I run the online group is because I like to be able to say, hey, honestly, I was in Rome and in November and had an opportunity to head over there. And I'm like, I can still log in and attend. Yeah, I can still— now it's 2 o'clock in the morning, I'm logging in, but who cares, right? I'm on US time.

CRAIG

But it was great.

Peter Catalano

It was great to be able to just do that. I like that freedom and flexibility.

Mark Smith

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

We're only an hour. We choose to operate pretty quick in the meeting. We, we were really efficient getting away a lot of fluff because Why not? We can knock things out pretty quick.

CRAIG

And you guys are pretty big on education too, right?

Peter Catalano

Thank you for asking. We have a unique way of delivering it. Yeah, thanks for reminding me. So our education moments are not your typical networking education moments where somebody comes in and speaks for 10 minutes. I actually do an interview process, much like you're doing with me in the podcast here. And so whoever is up for the interview for the month, we— I'll interview them. I'll spend time with them. And instead of them having to do a podcast PowerPoint presentation and come up and be nervous and not practice it or not do anything. I'll just have a great conversation. I'll find out a little bit in advance what point they want to get across.

Matt Dawson

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

And then I'll make sure I draw that out of them during that particular timeframe. Yeah, it's actually the interview, I think. Thank you for reminding me. I think the interview makes us very unique.

CRAIG

I think so.

Peter Catalano

Yeah, we don't—

Kaylee Ingram

we don't—

CRAIG

I don't know anybody else that does it that way.

Peter Catalano

I don't see a lot of people do it that way on a consistent basis. So we split up our meetings. We, we do one meeting where somebody does do a presentation of some sort or an education source. We do another meeting where I do the interviewing. We are having our— hey, by the way, we are having just like all the other teams, we're having a visitor day.

CRAIG

Oh, when, Josh?

Peter Catalano

18th of November. Excuse me, 18th of February. Sorry, we're still in Rome.

Whitney

I know.

Peter Catalano

Well, that's the other thing unique about us. We like to plan 11 months out. No, we're doing a Mardi Gras thing.

Matt Dawson

Oh, cool.

Peter Catalano

So our leadership's going to have— be wearing all consistent costumes. Our team will have beads delivered.

KEVIN

Okay.

Peter Catalano

So we're doing different things. And for those people in attendance, we actually have a king cake that we're giving away.

CRAIG

So you're actually going to have like a physical get-together?

Peter Catalano

We're not going to have a physical get-together. We're going to be online. But somehow my team, and this is back to what we were saying earlier, you know, my team's great and they figured out a way to get a king cake to somebody.

CRAIG

Oh, that's awesome.

Peter Catalano

I don't know how they're going to deliver it. Out of my pay grade. All I know is they said, this is what we want to do. I said, great idea, go do it.

CRAIG

Make it happen.

Peter Catalano

They're doing it. And that's the beauty about our team. We've got really smart people who get it done.

CRAIG

Well, are there, are there any big chairs that you're looking to get filled?

Peter Catalano

You know, we are 11 people right now, and we would love to fill just about any chair that somebody's interested in talking to us about. Come on in and meet with us. I'm not a big fan of let's fill a number of people.

CRAIG

Sure.

Peter Catalano

I'm more of a fan of are you right fit? Are you going to provide?

CRAIG

Are you going to give?

Peter Catalano

Are you going to step in and say, I want to contribute to other people. Yeah, right. If you're going to do that, then you have a good chance of being successful in networking. Yeah, and a really good chance of being successful with our group.

CRAIG

Is your team mainly made up of like service people, like tradespeople? Like what do you guys—

Peter Catalano

No, that's another great question. We are leaning toward the health and wellness arena. Okay, ironically. Glad, thank you for bringing that up. We made a decision the other day with the people on our team that we want to attract more in the medical arena and the health and wellness arena.

Very cool.

Peter Catalano

We'd like to build that out.

Rudy

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

Our charity, our nonprofit of our team is Malachi's Message. And Malachi's Message is an organization that helps people that have been impacted by mold. And they help people. Let's say they had to get rid of all the toys, they'll replace toys for the kids or help people move or help people with education. Really quite fascinating, actually. And Because of the nature of them being around that mold industry, we are wanting to do more of the health and wellness.

CRAIG

Makes sense.

Peter Catalano

In corporate, to support them.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Peter Catalano

And they're doing some amazing things. Anyways, I know our time is up.

I really appreciate it.

CRAIG

No, thank you so much. Remind people your name and what you do.

Peter Catalano

So I'm Peter Catalano. I'm the financial advisor, insurance agent. I run the show over at Legacy Leaders. We're online Wednesday, 11:30 to 2:30.

Mark Smith

12:30.

Peter Catalano

Easy to log in and check us out.

Fantastic.

Peter Catalano

Thank you forever.

CRAIG

Good to see you, bud.

Peter Catalano

Old Fashioneds, I love them.

CRAIG

All right, maybe we can have one later.

Peter Catalano

I need to. Am I, am I good on time or am I over?

CRAIG

You're perfect.

Peter Catalano

See, there we go.

CRAIG

He's the online guy. He knows how to get— how to bow out of an interview. All right, guys, we are carrying on here at Sawyer Park. We got, we got it. We got a traffic jam out on the highway. We got a traffic jam getting on the show. Not to be worried. Here we go. How you doing?

Kaylee Ingram

I'm good.

Whitney

How are you?

Peter Catalano

Very good.

CRAIG

So if there's any way that you can wear those, it's going to be helpful. But I know you've got that fantastic hat on. I mean, so maybe you can go like around the back.

Whitney

I'm pretty inventive.

CRAIG

There you go. It's just so you can hear it. If you can hear you, they can hear you.

Whitney

Gotcha.

CRAIG

Let you know.

Whitney

How are we gonna do this?

Jackie Parker

I don't know.

Whitney

Oh, you don't have the old school, like from Atari.

CRAIG

I planned for the hat. You can do that.

Whitney

How is that?

Kaylee Ingram

The photos from there?

CRAIG

Well, your, your camera is actually right over there.

Whitney

Okay, um, that works then.

CRAIG

I got you in the shot. I can see. See, you're, you're looking good.

Whitney

Yes, yes, let's figure this out. Maybe I should use the right side.

CRAIG

There you go. Can you hear me?

Whitney

I can.

Mark Smith

There you go.

Kaylee Ingram

Can you hear me?

CRAIG

That's all that matters.

Whitney

Can you hear me now?

Justin

Oh yeah.

Whitney

Are we on Verizon?

CRAIG

Not me. It'd probably be working better if I was.

Whitney

Oh Lord, are they having problems again?

CRAIG

Always. Nothing, nothing is— everything's figureoutable. How about that?

Whitney

Yep, yep.

CRAIG

So tell me, tell everybody who you are and what you do.

Whitney

So I'm Whitney from Houston, not Whitney Houston. Where you'll always love your next home with Sodders Real Estate Solutions Group, brokered by CB&A Realtors.

CRAIG

Okay. And what group are you the president of?

Whitney

I am the president of the Integrity Collective.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

Whitney

That is out of Cypresswood.

Laurie Mazikas

Okay.

Whitney

Or not Cypresswood, Cypress.

Mark Smith

Cypress.

Excuse me.

Peter Catalano

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whitney

Real close to Cypresswood.

CRAIG

So new group?

Whitney

Yes, brand new group.

CRAIG

How long you guys been meeting now?

Whitney

We have had 2 meetings.

CRAIG

Oh, that's good.

Kaylee Ingram

All right.

CRAIG

So 1 month official.

Peter Catalano

That's awesome.

CRAIG

So, uh, well, let me ask you this since you're new. I mean, I love it when people are new because I want to know what is it that attracted you? Like, what made, what made The Net a group that you wanted to be a part of?

Whitney

So honestly, I do know a few folks that are in it, and they're just very ethical, high-performing professional folks.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah.

Whitney

And I know that they wouldn't be involved in something that is more about relationships or clicks and that sort of thing in, in a negative manner. And so the professionalism and, and that level of service and organization is really what drew me in. Um, and then I was given the opportunity to help open the Cypress location, and it was a great opportunity and it seemed like a good fit. And, you know, JoJo and Robert Green and the others really made it a smooth transition for myself and Miranda, my VP. Nice.

CRAIG

Okay, awesome.

Whitney

Start that out.

CRAIG

Yeah, we're excited for you guys. I mean, like, it's—

Peter Catalano

I mean, it looks—

CRAIG

I mean, Cypress is a great area.

Whitney

Yes, it is. And I do business out in Cypress. I don't do any networking in Cypress, so it's a great opportunity for myself and my group to expand out there and just meet some new people. My biggest hope is that I find other contractors to be more resources for my clients that are out in that area and help, you know, build small businesses up I mean, real estate is the driving force behind a lot of the trades. It can be, yes, very much so.

CRAIG

I mean, I mean, as being a trade guy, I mean, like, I know we get a lot of work from real estate, right? I mean, anytime there's a transaction, we're involved.

Whitney

Yeah, and some of those I've partnered with, and they're in some of my marketing material that I provide to my sellers. I mean, I had a listing appointment this morning, and I pulled out, you know, my buyer's guide, my seller's guide, and showed it to them because they're doing both sides. Besides the fact, uh, when you sell, you got to have somewhere to go. Can't be homeless. So my resources are in there, and I have my resources that are very geographical, some of them. And so they're in that area that I had that listing appointment. However, my clients that are in the Cypress area, I don't necessarily have a full list of resources there. So I'd like to build it up with

Whitney

reputable companies.

CRAIG

Yeah, because it's good, it's good for your clients to have somebody local. I mean, as local as possible.

Whitney

Most definitely. Yeah, the more local it is, I find it's more affordable it is for the client too, because you don't have large trip charges and things. And I like working with small businesses because they tend to have less overhead, which I don't work with any companies that there's kickbacks and all of that. I just, I want to be the source of the source for everything possible for my clients. And where I can do that, I build relationships to be able to bring those resources to my clients. That's most important.

CRAIG

So is that an area for your team that you're really looking to build up, is the trades?

Whitney

The trades. And then, I mean, there's other resources. I have clients that— she was, she was looking for a wellness coach. That's not really real estate related, but because real estate is so multifaceted, right, we learn as Realtors, if we are really looking at it from a relationship base rather than a transactional-based business, Yeah. We build those relationships and you learn so much about your clients.

Yeah.

Whitney

On the personal level, the emotional level, the family level, so many different levels. And I was able to help her get with a wellness coach and be partnered with a practitioner that now she is on a path to not only get healthier but also lose the weight that she's been trying to lose for years.

CRAIG

No kidding.

Whitney

And to me, that's a huge transformation.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Whitney

Well above selling your house.

CRAIG

Feeling better just makes everything else in your life better.

Whitney

It does, most definitely.

CRAIG

So that's awesome. Well, I mean, and do you guys have like a visitor's day coming up?

Whitney

We do. So the next visitor's day is going to be February 12th. We meet at the Toasted Yolk.

CRAIG

That's right there.

Whitney

I love that place in Cypress. So we have a private room. It's super nice. So when we get there and we've got monitors on both sides, big large TV, so anywhere you sit you can see. We have a dedicated waitress So we get great service there and we love the staff there. They've just been wonderful.

CRAIG

Are you guys a breakfast team?

Whitney

We are a breakfast team. So we meet starting at 9.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

Whitney

And usually we have kind of some open networking.

CRAIG

So not crazy early.

Whitney

Not crazy early. I'm a realtor. I'm usually working behind the scenes on paperwork after appointments till about 12 or 1 AM. So that's my early start. There you go. There's a balance. There's always a balance.

CRAIG

Do you guys have a theme for your Visitors Day yet?

Whitney

We don't necessarily have a theme. We're in kickoff mode, so we're open to any visitors. Last meeting, we had a great turnout. We really did, unexpectedly. So we're just looking to continue to grow that. We have a lot of interest. We're starting to get applications in, and we're starting to consider folks for different seats. We're getting the backend technology organized and such, so Miranda and I can more efficiently go through those and start booking, hopefully, uh, at the end of February, if not the beginning of March, some of those interviews and start locking in some of these seats.

Peter Catalano

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Now the backend stuff that we've— that we— I mean, honestly, a lot of that stuff just got released, and it's, it's incredible, like, the amount of data that we're able to, like, gather and then, you know, put into graphic form so people can understand what's going on in each of the groups. Most definitely. It's been a big game changer.

Peter Catalano

For sure.

Kaylee Ingram

It is.

Whitney

And the technology piece of this networking group is leaps and bounds above any other networking group that I've seen.

CRAIG

That's incredible.

Whitney

I have to say that. And there's, there's even more technology coming out. I know you've seen it. I've seen it behind the scenes secretly, but it's coming and it's going to make tracking information, sharing resources, things of that nature, and just inadvertently building and make that interview process so much smoother, I think, than I've seen in other networking groups.

CRAIG

It's gonna make our teams faster, which means that they're gonna be more accountable, which means that it's gonna— you're either gonna have to form relationships or get off. I mean, that's really what it's gonna come down to. Like, that's what accountability is for these groups, is like, look, if you're just here to like warm a seat, it's probably not gonna work out that well for you. I mean, like, we're happy to have you, glad you're here, but like You need to be forming relationships. You need to be actually like engaging, having one-on-ones, showing up for meetings, showing up to stuff like this, passing out business cards.

Whitney

Yes, most definitely.

CRAIG

Be engaged. And if you're just like hoping to show up and people are just going to throw you gobs of money, it's not going to work that way.

Whitney

No, you— I say in any event, when you're building a business, you get what you put into it. You get that out of it. And that's tenfold, especially if you are more growth-minded. and relationship-based. And so I really have a focus, and my VP also, Miranda, she has the focus as well that aligns with me, that we are more of an abundance mindset in our business rather than a scarcity mindset. And so that helps you feel more free to step in and help another person grow their business.

CRAIG

100%.

Whitney

It's not necessarily that you're doing it to get something back. It's just see others grow, and I think that's really a great opportunity here within the NAC.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, well, and like, one of the, like, you know, our organization was started by, you know, a handful of businesses, and, you know, one of the things that we found is people that are in similar businesses are scared to come in because they think that we're gonna suck up all the energy from their business, you know, because we've been here so long. And it's like, no, I've seen people in my industry, a couple new faces that I know that are in my industry, and I'm excited excited that they're here because like, one, I can't do it all.

Kaylee Ingram

No, you can't.

Whitney

And they become referral partners. Yeah. And that's referral partners and your power partners. Those are a two-way street no matter where they are.

Rudy

Yeah.

Whitney

So we're— Miranda and I are really excited about what we have on the horizon here to build in the Cypress House. It's called the Integrity Collective is what our, our team name is. And we're really looking forward. So we've got folks to send out on the 12th. We meet at 9 o'clock, have them come out, get some great breakfast at the very least.

CRAIG

It's a good breakfast, that's for sure.

Whitney

It is.

CRAIG

Don't they do like a bunch of different—

Whitney

full bar? They have a full bar.

CRAIG

They're doing like mimosas and stuff, right? And then Bloody Marys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Don't they do a bunch of different Benedicts?

Jackie Parker

Yes, they do.

CRAIG

Uh-huh. Yeah, no, I dig that place. Yeah. All right, I gotta get to the next one, and thank you so much for sitting down. Yeah, good to meet you again. Again. All right, we are carrying on, everybody. We got a couple more folks to get through. Oh, we get Monica? Okay, come on, Monica. All right, you want those? All right, you want to, you want to get up a little closer to it. Don't be afraid of it.

KEVIN

I'm not.

CRAIG

All right, so the rule is if you can hear yourself, they can hear you.

Jackie Parker

Okay.

CRAIG

Can you hear you?

Joey O'Neill

No.

CRAIG

I can turn you up just a little bit.

Laurie Mazikas

Is that better?

KEVIN

Can I hear me? Oh, there I— yeah, I can almost hear me.

CRAIG

I can hear you.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

Yeah.

CRAIG

How are you doing, friend?

Peter Catalano

I'm doing great.

Good.

CRAIG

You having fun tonight?

KEVIN

I think so. My feet are tired.

CRAIG

No one's told you you hadn't yet?

KEVIN

I've been standing around a long time, so my feet are tired. Met my people limit, so.

CRAIG

Yeah, okay. So this is a safe space then. There's only one person over here.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and he's a friend. Um, well, you're over there. That's right, there's a boundary. Um, well, tell everybody who you are and what you do real quick.

KEVIN

So who I am, I'm Monica Fuss. I'm a wellness coach, Arbonne consultant, and sailor, and I help people with their skin and also their nutrition.

CRAIG

Have I told you my sailing story yet?

KEVIN

I don't remember.

CRAIG

Okay, well, we'll get to that. Not on this, but we'll talk later.

Okay.

CRAIG

Used to be quite the avid sailor.

KEVIN

Okay.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

What kind of boat?

CRAIG

It was a 40-foot French cabin cruiser.

KEVIN

That's a big one.

CRAIG

It was a big one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a big one when I wrecked it too.

KEVIN

16-foot catamaran and I raced all over the country.

CRAIG

Oh, those are fun.

KEVIN

Yeah, they're kind of like a motorcycle versus a luxury SUV that you were in.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just so heavy, you know, like it takes a lot to— anyway, I had a lot of fun on it. So, but you're, you're here talking about the Select.

KEVIN

Yes, Net Select.

CRAIG

Which you and I have been working on together for a long time. So tell us a little bit about the Select. What makes the Select special?

KEVIN

What makes the Select special, I was actually in the forming meeting the very first time when they were forming the group. I believe they were like the 3rd or 4th group of the net.

CRAIG

The 3rd.

Mark Smith

3rd?

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay. And they were just kind of organizing and trying to figure out, you know, what do we want to call the group and all kinds of stuff. And I just happened to be at a meeting where you guys were getting ready to have that, that formation meeting. It's like, you look like you're at a networking meeting So I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick around and find out what's going on. I was like, oh, well, that sounds something very similar about what I want to do.

Matt Dawson

Yeah.

KEVIN

So I hung around with that.

CRAIG

So I hooked you at the beginning, huh? Yeah. Yeah, it's been great. And so when, when does the Select meet?

KEVIN

The Select meets on the 2nd and 4th Tuesday of every month, and we're one of the few groups that meet in the evening. Yeah, we meet 6 o'clock to 7:30, and we meet at Niko Niko's Greek and American Cafe over in The Woodlands.

CRAIG

I would say that Select has like the most unique restaurant location for sure.

KEVIN

I, I really like this food better than the other places that we've met previously.

Mark Smith

I agree.

CRAIG

Yeah, way better. So, and well, and the, the room that they've allowed us to meet in there is superb. Yes, it's superb.

KEVIN

We have the room tours There's no music. We don't have to speak over somebody singing happy birthday next to the tables next to us or anything like that.

CRAIG

It's awesome. No, yeah, it's fantastic. And there's a big projection screen. I mean, like, you know, like, it has everything that you would want for a networking space.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

So they were very thoughtful in, like, setting that aside and making sure there was a space like that in there.

KEVIN

Yeah, the catering and the catering manager and the general manager were very helpful and they're very nice people.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

Very nice to work with.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen him in a while. I mean, I thought he was going to join, but— the catering guy.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

Peter Catalano

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

David. David.

Kaylee Ingram

Thank you.

CRAIG

Yeah, we need to— we need to pay him a visit.

KEVIN

Yes. And Costa was very friendly. He was very, you know, arms crossed. Well, I'm not sure I want you meeting here when I first met him. And evidently he warmed up to me and he decided, like, okay, you're all right, we'll let you meet here. And he gave me a big old hug before I left.

I was like, oh, I feel like I'm in the family now.

CRAIG

You're in. Well, and, and you guys, you guys also have a visitor's day coming up. Oh, we do.

KEVIN

We have a themed visitor day as well.

Peter Catalano

Okay.

KEVIN

You don't have to be dressed in the theme, but it's an '80s theme.

CRAIG

It's highly encouraged.

Peter Catalano

Yes.

KEVIN

It's— yeah, those people who like to dress up are like, this is your, this is your time to go get your '80s outfit, your neon, and whatever else that goes with that, that era. And that will be on the 24th of February, the 4th Tuesday. I'm pretty sure it's the 24th. Yeah. And so looking forward to have whoever guests want to come to that.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, well, '80s night's always fun. I mean, lots of, lots of nostalgia.

KEVIN

Yes, we're really looking to grow our group. We have, we have several open chairs. A lot of the trades we're looking for, we need a general contractor. Contractor, plumber, electrician, painter. Also, we're looking for health insurance and property and casualty insurance chairs open.

CRAIG

I don't think there's a title person in there either, right?

KEVIN

We don't have a title person.

CRAIG

Yeah, not yet, not yet.

KEVIN

And we don't have a nonprofit yet, so if you have a nonprofit, come check us, you know, come visit. Yeah, maybe it's a group where we'll be able to help you and your organization.

CRAIG

Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize, like, that— I mean, the nonprofit doesn't pay like all the rest of the businesses do. No, I mean, it's free to them. But also, like, you know, you have the opportunity to participate in the 200 Businesses That Care.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

And potentially get your organization quite a bit of money. Yes. So there's that incentive. But also, like, you know, it's raising awareness for your nonprofit. I mean, to a group of business owners.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, so with so many teams that we have now, we have like, I think we're working on 13 teams where we used to have—

CRAIG

Yeah, we're fixing to launch number 13.

KEVIN

Yes, we're really growing. And so multiply that times how many people are in there, that's that many more people that are getting exposure to your business.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, I think, I think last year at the 200 Businesses That Care, we had well over 500 people here for that event.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, it was nuts.

KEVIN

It was.

CRAIG

You know, and we had all those different nonprofits that got, you know, got to have conversations with everyone in attendance. They got to tell people about who they were, what they were about, what their mission was. That's insanely valuable.

KEVIN

It was, you know, and they had big payoff. I mean, oh yeah, you know, so lots of money was passed out that night.

CRAIG

Was there anything else about the Select we need to be aware of?

KEVIN

We're a friendly group.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

KEVIN

And we look forward to sharing an evening meal with you and help each other be each other's sales team. We're like a family.

CRAIG

Absolutely. Well, remind everybody who you are and what you do before you jump off.

KEVIN

Okay, I'm Monica Fuss. I'm a wellness coach, Arbonne consultant, and sailor, and I help people with their skin and also their nutrition.

CRAIG

Awesome. Thank you so much for sitting down, Monica.

KEVIN

Thanks, Craig.

CRAIG

Good to see you, friend.

Bye-bye.

KEVIN

It's real fuzzy sounding in my ears.

Peter Catalano

Oh, I'm sorry.

KEVIN

Just so you know.

CRAIG

I'll see what I can do about it. All right, guys, we are carrying on. We got a couple more to, to talk to, some groups to make sure that we highlight tonight.

Mark Smith

Hey, try this set for me.

CRAIG

They were, they were saying the other set was kind of fuzzy. Is that one a little bit clearer?

Mark Smith

That sounds pretty good.

CRAIG

Sounds pretty good?

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

How you doing, man?

Mark Smith

I'm well, how about you?

Joey O'Neill

Good.

CRAIG

Just make sure that you can hear you.

Mark Smith

I can hear me.

CRAIG

You can hear you? Okay. So, uh, let everybody know who you are and what you do, man.

Mark Smith

Um, I am Mark Smith. I am a shareholder with the law firm Barron and Neuberger.

CRAIG

Okay.

Mark Smith

Uh, we are a full-service business law firm. We can handle anything from formation to termination, kind of anything in between.

CRAIG

Like forming LLCs and stuff like that?

Mark Smith

Yeah.

CRAIG

Okay.

Mark Smith

Setting up company, LLC, corporation, whatever structure and, you know, issues the company wants to address. And then in particular, I like working with small businesses. I like sitting down with the business owners proactively and Understanding what their business is and what legal risk they're going to face in their day-to-day business and trying to come up with strategies to mitigate those risks because mitigation is a lot cheaper than litigation. And as I tell everybody, you really need a lawyer before you need a lawyer.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They need to be in your business before somebody else gets in your business.

Mark Smith

That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

CRAIG

Yeah, well, that's cool, man. And you're part of the Platinum group, right?

Mark Smith

I am part of the NET Platinum. We meet at the Sam Houston building there on 242 on the first and third Wednesdays, 8 AM. Well, we get started about 8:30, I guess, technically.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

Mark Smith

Usually everyone's there around 8 o'clock to do a little networking and chatting. Yeah, we've got a good group, about 4 We're about 14 folks right now. A lot of us have been together for a couple of years.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah.

Mark Smith

And we've got our Visitors Day coming up on February 18th.

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

Mark Smith

We have a Facebook page out there, and obviously you can go to the N.E.T.S. website and check us out. And we are— we would be very happy to have as many people as would like to come show up on February 18th. Learn about our members, and we have a lot of open chairs right now.

CRAIG

Are there any like big chairs you're looking to fill?

Mark Smith

HVAC and electrician are both open.

CRAIG

Okay, those are big ones.

Mark Smith

Yeah, yeah, it's unusual in networking groups to have those trade chairs open like that. Yeah, they're open in our group, so if anyone's interested, we'd love to have them come out. Right now we don't have a lender, residential or commercial. We have a commercial lender, so if you're in the mortgage business and you're lending and you want to come and get, you know, we have a residential realtor in the group. We have, you know, we have insurance, we have 2 attorneys, we have home inspection, pest control, we have plumber, we have— let's see, who am I missing? We have a painting contractor.

KEVIN

Everything.

CRAIG

Other side, I can't hear you. They're all taking pictures. Y'all want to come? Oh no, I'm good. Would you like to come in for a picture?

Mark Smith

No, that's—

CRAIG

we're good. Thank you, John.

Mark Smith

And, uh, you know, so we, we've got a good group of folks, and, uh, we've— we do a very good job of sending business back and forth. We all know each other really well, and everybody in the group, uh, knows the quality of the other people. Yeah, that's the big thing is, you know, I have no qualms referring any of our members to my clients, and that's a direct reflection on me. So if, you know, I've got to have the faith to be able to refer those people and know they're going to do a good job for my clients.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Mark Smith

And I have no qualms about doing that with any of our folks, you know.

CRAIG

Okay.

Mark Smith

Whether it be handyman services, painting, real estate, anything.

Peter Catalano

Yeah.

Mark Smith

So, uh, you know, always, always happy to add people to that group. It's a fun group. Yeah, you know, we get along with one another. We actually, we actually technically are first and third Wednesday.

CRAIG

We actually meet every week though. Okay.

Mark Smith

So if someone wants to come out—

CRAIG

Overachievers, that's what you guys are. That's it, man.

Mark Smith

If somebody wants to come out on the second or fourth Wednesday and check us out, we're happy to host them on those days too.

CRAIG

Meeting in the same spot?

Mark Smith

Same spot. Yeah, same bat time, same bat channel. But, uh, yeah, no, we We get together on those days, and on kind of our off weeks, we don't do a presentation. We still do our commercials, but a lot of times we will just work on, you know, business building ideas, uh, you know, go back and forth, just spitball some things, and kind of have a little different look to those meetings.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Mark Smith

But still a really great meeting to come out and meet everybody and understand who's in the group and what we're doing.

CRAIG

That's awesome, man. No, I hear nothing but good stuff. I mean, I've known Paul and Deborah for a long time, and they say nothing but great stuff about you guys.

Mark Smith

Well, thank you. And they do a great job. We've had them come out and unfortunately have to have them do some work at my house.

CRAIG

Yeah, I hear you. Same.

Mark Smith

It's one of those things. You want to refer these folks, but you don't want to refer them to yourself. I don't want to have the problems. I don't want them to need me. I don't want them to have a legal problem. I don't want, uh, I don't want to have to call a plumber or, or anyone else out.

CRAIG

Uh, but you know, but that's kind of the thing though. You, you don't want to have to, but you also understand that like if you have a problem, they're going to fight like hell to make sure that— and the inverse, like if they have a problem and they come to you, they know that you are going to like go to war.

Mark Smith

Well, and that's, that's the great thing and the A great example of that is if you go back to, was it Barrow, right?

CRAIG

Right.

Mark Smith

So I have a tree falls on my master bedroom, and it's poked a hole in the roof, but thankfully nothing interior, you know, it's just a hole in the roof. I need it patched and repaired. I need the tree cut up, that sort of thing. I called Wright Services Roofing, Luke the man, who's in our group. Luke was out the next morning. Put me at the top of the list. He was out the next morning, gave me a quote. I'll be back when they cut the tree off. Handyman and Sam, one of our members, I called Jordan and said, hey, I need somebody to come cut this tree up and get it out of the way. They were there

Mark Smith

within a couple of hours. You know, by the end of the next day, the tree's cut up, stacked in my backyard, the roof is repaired and patched. All at a great price. And there were still people— you could go on Facebook and people were screaming, hey, I need a roofer, I need somebody to come cut trees. Because, you know, but I got moved to the first of the list. And had it been one of my clients that needed that, had I called Luke or Jordan or someone in the group and said, hey, I really need you to take care of this client, I would have gotten the same result.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, that's why those relationships matter, man. No, they—

Mark Smith

it absolutely does. And it It's a really good peace of mind to know you have those resources available and, you know, and have that level of confidence to say, hey, go take care of my client, and know that you're not going to get a call from a client later going, who in the hell did you send to my house?

CRAIG

Yeah, you know, so that's awesome. Well, I know I've got another one I need to get to, but like, man, remind everybody your name and what you do and Before you jump off.

Mark Smith

Yeah, Mark Smith, Baron and Neuberger, full-service business law firm. We've got about 18 attorneys actually all over the country. Okay, but my— our main office is in Austin. I'm here in Houston. I've got attorneys in California, Chicago, Milwaukee, New York, New Jersey, Michigan. Where else? I feel like I'm missing somebody. And one in the Seattle and Pacific Northwest, Oregon, Seattle area.

Okay.

CRAIG

So awesome.

Mark Smith

Anybody needs anything, give me a shout.

CRAIG

Dude, really good to meet you.

Mark Smith

Great to talk to you, man.

CRAIG

Yes, sir.

Justin

Yes.

CRAIG

Come on, Jackie. No, I'm not handing it like— oh, you can go that way.

Matt Dawson

Yeah, that's fine.

CRAIG

Okay. Come on in. Do you mind?

Kaylee Ingram

I do.

CRAIG

I know it's not— it's— I get it. You're okay? Yeah, I'm close.

Matt Dawson

Okay, awesome.

CRAIG

How you doing?

Jackie Parker

I am fantastic.

CRAIG

I know you finally made it here.

Whitney

I did.

CRAIG

45 was kind of shut down, huh?

Kaylee Ingram

Uh-huh. Yeah.

Jackie Parker

It was joyous.

CRAIG

Had a lot of me time.

Whitney

I did.

Jackie Parker

Thank God my best friend was in the car with me so we could get out our frustrations.

CRAIG

There you go.

Jackie Parker

So I'm not just yelling at the windshield.

CRAIG

When you have, when you have someone else in the car, it makes it less acceptable to murder other people.

Jackie Parker

Yeah.

CRAIG

You know, that's, that's, that's a good thing. Good friends are like that.

Jackie Parker

More socially acceptable.

CRAIG

Or someone to plot with.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, we bounce— we bounce fun ideas off of each other or talk ourselves down. I don't know.

CRAIG

All right, so tell me one— tell everybody who you are and what you do real quick.

Jackie Parker

Sure.

CRAIG

Uh, before we get down to brass tacks.

Whitney

Yes, so my name is Jackie Parker.

Jackie Parker

And is there a camera somewhere?

CRAIG

So yours is right there.

Jackie Parker

Ah, okay, just checking. All right, so my name is Jackie Parker and I am a serial entrepreneur. Um, my 9 to 5, which we know is not actual 9 to 5, sure, uh, is Digify Local. So we are a full-service digital marketing agency, everything from websites, Google Business Profile, SEO, CRM systems, the, the works. I also own The Experience, and so we— with my husband and brother— and that's an axe throwing venue off of Spring Cypress.

CRAIG

Super cool, by the way.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, it is. It's pretty, pretty fun.

Peter Catalano

Thank you.

Jackie Parker

We, we definitely have one of the largest collections of items to throw in Houston. I can confidently say that. And then working on— I'm a partner in a dive bar in Old Tomball called Drifters, which should be opening in the next hopefully 2 weeks.

CRAIG

Hmm, so before I forget, have you ever heard of Brave Hawk Forge?

I—

Jackie Parker

yeah, were they on, um, Forged in Fire?

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

Okay, because we— that's our dinner show. We always watch Forged in Fire. Like, it's either that or baking.

CRAIG

Okay.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, one or the other. And we love Forged in Fire. Like, my husband wants a backyard forge.

CRAIG

So yeah. So he's a good buddy of mine.

No!

Jackie Parker

Oh my god, Justin would die. He would die.

CRAIG

So I'm asking because like one of the things that he does, I don't know if he's still doing it anymore, when he first got started he was doing pop-ups for throwing tomahawks, and that's what he makes.

Jackie Parker

Like, that's amazing.

CRAIG

And I was like, you guys should have some Tomahawks.

Jackie Parker

We do need tomahawks now that you mention it.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, because they're really fun to throw.

Jackie Parker

We have shovels and we have, uh, huge swords and javelins.

CRAIG

Yeah, um, I bet you he would love to get you guys a tomahawk.

Jackie Parker

Oh my God, so we need to talk.

CRAIG

So he— my, my dad actually made a knife with him. Um, yeah, yeah, so because he does— he's the guy that does the, uh, custom knife show in Conroe every year and brings all the Forged in Fire guys In from out of town. Really?

Peter Catalano

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jackie Parker

I need to know when that's happening next because my husband's obsessed with knives, hence why— one of the big reasons why we started the experience.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. I need a business where I can buy more sharp things.

Jackie Parker

Oh yeah, uh, tax write-off for sharp items sold.

CRAIG

Yeah, I'm still figuring out how to do that with horses. I'll get it one day.

Whitney

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

So anyway, all that, all that being said, you're also president of a group.

Whitney

I am.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

Matt Dawson

Which—

CRAIG

remind me, sorry, I've talked to like 20 people tonight. Which group are you president of?

I—

Kaylee Ingram

Craig.

CRAIG

Oh, did you brain fart?

Jackie Parker

No, we're— we should be the most memorable.

CRAIG

Oh, okay, you're just— you're insulted. I'm sorry.

Laurie Mazikas

A little.

Jackie Parker

No, it's okay. There's, there's a lot. I can't remember my own name some days. It's fine. Um, so I am president of NWA.

There it is.

Jackie Parker

Yep. And if you know, you know. But, uh, it's Net Worth Alliance. And yeah, we're, we're in Tomball, and we actually just celebrated our year as a chapter.

CRAIG

Hey, congrats!

Jackie Parker

This, this month.

CRAIG

Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's the thing is people need to understand is like we grew like crazy last year.

Insane.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so like if you're listening, if you've been listening to the show, everyone's like, group's been open for 2 months, group's been open for a year, the group's been open for 6 months. Yeah, because we added like 10 teams last year.

Kaylee Ingram

At least.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, so I mean, it's wild.

CRAIG

So like, you're actually one of the older groups.

Jackie Parker

I know, we were the 4th, so technically like we're OGs.

CRAIG

That's right, all the rest of y'all are just imitators. Um, but yeah, no, congrats, one year, that's a big deal.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah, it is.

CRAIG

And they reelected you, huh?

Jackie Parker

They did. They kind of couldn't put me to pasture just yet. Um, I— it's such a good group.

I—

Jackie Parker

we have really worked hard on picking some of the, the best of the best, and I love our culture. I have networked a lot over the years. I really started heavily networking in 2020, and I think that our group is definitely, yeah, um, one of the most comfortable that I've ever been in. And I think that's a big, a big thing.

Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, and you guys have a Visitors Day coming up?

Jackie Parker

We do, yes. Uh, February 18th.

Mark Smith

Okay.

Jackie Parker

I believe, um, it's the, uh, 3rd Wednesday in February.

CRAIG

People coming down off that Valentine's blues.

Jackie Parker

Yeah.

CRAIG

Or they're right for the plucking.

Jackie Parker

Upper, downer, I don't know. No judgment, um, you know. Yeah, but yeah, uh, love is in the air, whether it's for, for, uh, business or personal. but you can combine the two and come in. Now our theme actually is like, is a Texas theme.

Oh, okay.

Jackie Parker

Built Strong Texan. Forgive me if I, I can't remember the exact slogan that we're using, but it's a Texan theme. Uh, we'll be wearing sort of a rodeo gear.

CRAIG

Um, so I should just come normally?

Jackie Parker

Correct.

Laurie Mazikas

Yeah, okay.

Jackie Parker

You do not need to change at all. Uh, be your beautiful self.

CRAIG

I will, every day.

Jackie Parker

Exactly. Me, I will change from my, you know, my business attire to— I don't know.

CRAIG

You kind of got like a Beth Dutton thing going on right here.

Jackie Parker

I feel like I resonate with Beth Dutton so much. Yeah, on so many levels.

CRAIG

It's weird how many women connect with that character.

Jackie Parker

We're all a little crazy, so you should be scared, but also excited. We bring entertainment.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

But in terms of networking, you know, it's a lot of fun. We're gonna have— you'll definitely have a blast. We— last week our meeting was fantastic. We had like 10 visitors or something.

Whitney

That's fantastic.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, yeah, it was great. And I think the culture that we're really Cultivating. Yeah, uh, it speaks to a lot of people.

Kaylee Ingram

Hmm.

CRAIG

Are there any big seats you guys are looking to fill?

Jackie Parker

Yes, um, for sure. So definitely we want, uh, some more trades, right? Uh, we need HVAC, we need plumbing, um, we need— oh my gosh, who else? Um, some attorneys would, would be really great and would help to round, round some things out. But a lot, a lot of trades for sure, because there's many different leads and referrals that we could be sending out that we just haven't had those, those come in that would be a good fit for our group. And we really would love to be able to— Hand those out.

CRAIG

Yeah, we'd love to be able to refer some people that do a good job and that we trust Yeah, I think one of the more frustrating things as a business owner is when a customer comes to you with a need and you don't know the person that can take care of them.

Jackie Parker

I absolutely— because I pride myself in being the, like, I know a guy, girl, and when I don't know, I'm like, oh shoot, that's a gap in my Rolodex. Let me look into this. I need to get them into my networking group and I need to learn more about them and their business and Be able to refer them, because I don't just refer somebody just to refer them.

CRAIG

No, me neither.

KEVIN

Ever.

CRAIG

I'd rather do it myself.

Jackie Parker

Well, yeah, yes. And like, I just have to— I have to be able to trust them and know them. And that's why I love the Net, because that's— you don't just do it because they're in your group, you do it because you cultivated a relationship with them.

CRAIG

Yeah, well, I think— I, I think that's one of the good things about the Net is like, if you don't put in the work— because again, we don't meet every week.

Mark Smith

Correct.

CRAIG

Twice a month.

Yeah.

CRAIG

So like, so it forces you into a position where you have to put in some effort to form a relationship with the people on your team.

Jackie Parker

Yes.

CRAIG

And if you don't, that's your fault.

Jackie Parker

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, but we want people who actually take initiative, which, I mean, like, let's face it, like, if you are an actual business owner, that's who you want as your employees, the people who are going to take initiative. So why wouldn't you be that way?

Jackie Parker

Well, exactly. Speed of the group is speed of the leader, and that goes for your company. And that's absolutely— if, if you're communicative and trustworthy and show up and you want to like genuinely get to know somebody, um, that speaks volumes. And I, I will refer someone all day, every day, um, that, that I, that I trust, not just because I know them.

Peter Catalano

Sure.

Jackie Parker

But because they do, they do a good job because It's also my, my name on the line and my reputation. Exactly. So I have to be able to do that. And so I really appreciate the people, like you said, that we're— we only meet, you know, twice, twice a month. So we're not babysitters. We're not trying to, you know, set these like rules that you have to do X, Y, Z. Like we are— we're all adults here. Yes, but you should supposedly Well, you know, some days I like to pretend I'm an adult.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

But really, like, it's— you want to show up because that just is part of your character.

Rudy

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

And that's— so that's, that's what we're looking for, is somebody who will just take a genuine interest. And, you know, it's not hugely time-consuming, but it just It takes some calculated effort to refer others that you trust, and then you get referred and you get leads back. And it's not— some of it's instant, but most of it's like, it takes some time to get those relationships, as is with anything. Running a marketing company, SEO takes time. Why? Because Google is like me getting out of a relationship. It has trust issues. So, you know, you have to build the trust.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

Jackie Parker

So either online or in person in a networking group, you're building the trust.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

Regardless.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like, it is one of those weird things where, like, you— like, like with Google, like, you have to consistently show up.

Jackie Parker

Yes.

CRAIG

In their space and add value to them before you get value back from them. It's just the way it works.

Jackie Parker

Yes.

CRAIG

You know, but like, most of us realize that we don't have the discipline to do that on our own, and so we need some help.

Jackie Parker

Well, exactly, but you can't wear all the hats, right?

Whitney

Right.

Jackie Parker

You can't. As a business owner, we have to delegate. And so that's also, how are you going to delegate your leads? Whether that's by networking, so you have— you cast that net out, pun intended.

CRAIG

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

And then also, like, yeah, online and Google, you want to be omnipresent, and you have your representatives, your minions working for you all the time. So through networking and online.

Mark Smith

Redhead.

Jackie Parker

Like which one?

Mark Smith

That one.

Alicia.

CRAIG

Hey, Alicia, you're in my shot.

Mark Smith

You're taking her. You're taking her spot, man.

CRAIG

Ma'am, I'm shaming Alicia.

Mark Smith

That's right. Called you out.

Jackie Parker

No one puts baby in the corner.

CRAIG

Test us. You're a terrible spot.

Justin

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yes.

Jackie Parker

To circle back, right?

Kaylee Ingram

Okay.

Jackie Parker

So we're talking networking. Our specific group, the net as a whole. Every group has a different, a different vibe, a different je ne sais quoi, right? But I really, really pride our group Because I don't like stuffy. I don't do stuffy. I don't do disingenuous. I'm not— I don't really want somebody to come in here and just give me your business card. You are not your true self. I don't trust you because you're a shell of a human. Hi, nice to meet you. I don't want robots. I want you show up as you.

Mm-hmm.

Jackie Parker

Be your genuine self. Don't be apologetic about it. And, you know, yeah, we may cuss a little, but, you know, that's part of me being authentically me. And it's worked for our group because it's attracted people just being, you know, genuinely themselves.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Jackie Parker

And we are— we're very business-focused, but we are also really just fun, and we have such good relationships. I mean, I have built some of my best friendships from our group. Yeah, so it's—

CRAIG

yeah, it's amazing. Before you jump off, remind everybody what you do and who you are and how to get a hold of you.

Jackie Parker

Yes, so Jackie Parker with, uh, Digify Local, The Axe Experience, and soon-to-be Drifter's Dive Bar in Tomball.

CRAIG

Coming, coming soon.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, and then there'll be other businesses, uh, I'm sure this year.

CRAIG

Yeah, of course, building the empire.

Jackie Parker

But my main focus, and I stay in my lane, is with digital marketing. So the best way to get a hold of me is through our website or Facebook, but it's digifylocal.com. And then just give us a call or fill out a form if you have questions. I'm always down to answer questions, like answer any questions for free, you know, like I just love to help.

CRAIG

Awesome. Well, be sure and check in with me about the whole tomahawk thing before you take off.

Jackie Parker

I'm holding you to that.

CRAIG

We'll make that happen.

Jackie Parker

Not kidding. I'm gonna call you.

Call me.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's not like you don't know how to get a hold of me.

Jackie Parker

I'll definitely call you.

CRAIG

Good to see you, friend.

Jackie Parker

Yes, thank you.

CRAIG

All right, where'd Marianne go? Oh, you're good, you're good.

Jackie Parker

All right.

CRAIG

Oh man, well, the person bringing me people has disappeared, so what's going on, bud?

I don't know.

CRAIG

I'm waiting on— All right, let's see here. Bring this right over here, guys. This has been a fun night. I don't know if I have anybody else. Marianne is about to tell me, but it has been a good time here tonight. Am I all good? Yeah? Cool. Hey, Matt, would you, would you tap him? Would you tap that guy in the hat right there for me? Yeah.

Mark Smith

You want to chat?

Joey O'Neill

Howdy doody.

CRAIG

How you doing, man?

Joey O'Neill

Great.

CRAIG

Pest control, pest control. That's right. We're proud of the pest control. All right. I'm closing out the night with this because I saw you sitting there. I wanted to make sure you had a chance to come over here and have a chat. Tell everybody who you are, man.

Joey O'Neill

Well, sure. Thank you very much for introducing me. Almost there. Craig, I am Joey O'Neill. I own Ally Pest Control up in The Woodlands, Texas. I try to learn as much as I can about this wild industry we're in, that's for sure. Always something different.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. Well, and tell everybody where your company got its name.

Joey O'Neill

Sure. So my company, Ally Pest Control, got its name from my wife, Ally. She is a—

CRAIG

You're romantic at heart.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, I'm a romantic at heart. I was thinking of what I should name my company, and I thought, well, you know—

CRAIG

Were you married before you did that?

Joey O'Neill

I was almost married.

CRAIG

You were almost married?

Jackie Parker

Yeah.

CRAIG

So a little bit of a dice roll.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So good on you.

Joey O'Neill

Well, so I was engaged, and I was— we had our wedding planned in about 3 or 4 months. I was working, I was, I was running a pest control company here in Conroe, and I just got that hot spark that, you know, what if I went out on my own and did this?

CRAIG

Yeah.

Joey O'Neill

What would I even call my company? And so I was talking with my wife, Allie, and I said, you know what, Allie's a nice little name. Let me go see, uh, let me go check the .com. Anyhow, the .com was available, the Facebook, Twitter. And so I was like, well, shoot.

CRAIG

Yeah, just make it happen.

Joey O'Neill

Let's just make it happen.

CRAIG

Look, man, as someone who's been in a family that there have been a couple people left at the altar, it was bold. It was bold. I'm not saying she should have left you. I'm just saying stuff happens.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you guys made it through that and you got to keep the name.

Joey O'Neill

We did. Yeah.

CRAIG

We made it through.

Joey O'Neill

It's been, I guess, a little over 2 years now married. Crazy for single people and the married people, they kind of have different thoughts about that, right?

CRAIG

But it's been good. So you're in pest control. How's that going right now?

Joey O'Neill

So right now, when you are spraying bugs, Uh-huh. And your water is frozen.

CRAIG

It makes it difficult.

Joey O'Neill

It makes things very difficult to do that facet of the pest control job. Yeah.

CRAIG

Keep an electric kettle in the back of the van.

Joey O'Neill

You know, I have a couple different fixes, but generally when it's below freezing, we kind of push the bugs off until it's—

CRAIG

yeah, until it's a little warmer.

Joey O'Neill

But this time of year, we have a bunch of cold snaps, like I've I've been busy with squirrels.

CRAIG

Oh, dude, I've been doing gobs of squirrels.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah. I mean, just all over the place. Alden Bridge, Jacob's Reserve, Bender's Landing. It's just— you get a—

CRAIG

you get—

Joey O'Neill

the rodents are a lot like us where if, let's say, you're sleeping in a tree stump and all of a sudden—

Just imagine.

Joey O'Neill

Just imagine. You're— there you are sleeping in a tree stump. It's, it's a nice day and then all of a sudden drops down to 22 degrees. Yeah, you're sitting in your tree stump and the— and it somehow feels like 12.

CRAIG

Yeah, with the wind.

Joey O'Neill

And there you are and you're in this tree stump and right across, you know, 5 meters away is this nice garage.

CRAIG

Let's say— Let's call them the bourgeois.

Joey O'Neill

Let's call them the bourgeois garage. And there it is and you're sitting in your tree stump, 20 degrees, wet, it's cold, and you're like, you know, that place I think might be a little warmer. And you go and you, you know, you slip right through a crack and you discover, boy, by God, it is warmer.

CRAIG

It is warmer.

Joey O'Neill

And then do you know what happens? They invite their girlfriend back. They say, check out this place.

Matt Dawson

Yep.

Joey O'Neill

And before you know it—

CRAIG

What girl doesn't like a sweet pad?

Joey O'Neill

What girl doesn't like a warm Pad, no, you know, tree bark or— Yeah, whatever. So that's what's pretty busy this time of year. Whenever we have a cold snap, we get a lot of squirrels and the like, that's for sure.

CRAIG

Well, look, I'll tell you about one that I'm dealing with right now that I think you'll think is interesting because— and I don't think a lot of people think about this— I'm dealing with a squirrel issue that is causing fleas inside the house.

Joey O'Neill

Now, how did you determine the squirrels?

CRAIG

So it's, it's kind of a weird set of circumstances. It's an old home that's a really nice house, but it's a pier and beam, but it doesn't look like a pier and beam from the outside.

Joey O'Neill

Gotcha. It's got—

CRAIG

the only way you can get underneath it is through a trapdoor in the middle of the house.

Whitney

Okay.

CRAIG

So I had to crawl underneath the house and I find piles of pecans underneath the house. And it's like this family doesn't have pets, nothing. But there's fleas upstairs.

Rudy

Okay.

Mark Smith

Upstairs?

CRAIG

Yes. In the pyramid?

Kaylee Ingram

Uh-huh.

Joey O'Neill

Interesting.

CRAIG

Right?

Okay.

CRAIG

So it's like, what is happening right now?

Jackie Parker

Right?

CRAIG

And like, they're only upstairs.

Joey O'Neill

How interesting.

CRAIG

And so all I can figure is the squirrels have been eating nuts underneath the house and then going up the wall to get warm and then hanging out outside this bathroom wall long enough and the fleas are coming in because it's cold. And it's a crazy one, man. So, and we actually came behind another pest control company that had been treating it for over a month and a half and couldn't get the fleas under control. And I'm like, the only reason they couldn't get under—

Justin

I was—

CRAIG

because I even had them send over the invoices so I could see like what products and stuff they were using. I didn't want to like double up or anything, you know, especially if there's like resistance or—

Kaylee Ingram

Do the exact same thing.

Justin

Exactly.

CRAIG

You know, and, and so, I mean, like, all I could figure is there has to be an outside source reintroducing, you know, because the pesticides they were using were good stuff. I mean, it should have been taken care of. It had the IGRs and all that kind of stuff in it, but like, couldn't get them to go away. And I'm like, man, there has to be like an animal or somebody's dog or cat or somebody that's like living underneath the house or like something where like they're, they're going away and they're coming back. They're going away and they're coming back.

Joey O'Neill

Because it had been an ongoing issue for the clients?

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah. So sure enough, we— my guys went up on the roof today and they're like, yeah, this other company, they tried to seal it up, but they tried to do it the cheap way and the squirrels just chewed right through it. And it's like, okay, I was right.

Joey O'Neill

So that's the fun part. That's one of the fun things. So one of the products we use in pest control is spray foam from time to time.

CRAIG

Right. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, it's handy.

Joey O'Neill

It's handy. And it can be, but it can be overused when it comes to keeping like squirrels out. Squirrels, squirrels throw not only the professionals for a loop, but certainly the homeowners. There are times when they can be so persistent. And they've been known to chew through hardy plants.

Justin

Yep.

Joey O'Neill

Wood siding. I mean, you know, you name it.

CRAIG

You've got to put up layers if you want to, like, if you want to deter them, because they are vigilant about getting back into a spot that they want to be into. You're not wrong.

Joey O'Neill

Sometimes we'll talk to different people. And Craig, what are some, what are some deterrents for squirrels that, let's say, a homeowner Theoretically apply them.

CRAIG

It really depends on the— for me, it depends on the customer, right? So like sometimes if someone is like, well, I don't want to fix my house, but I don't want the squirrel in there, is there anything we can try? I'm like, yeah, there's stuff you can try. It's not 100%, but you can try it. So I sometimes I'll encourage people to try predator venom— predator urine, sorry.

Joey O'Neill

I was gonna say predator venom.

CRAIG

Predator urine. And you can, you can buy it on Amazon. You know, it's pretty cheap. You can get like coyote urine, you can get bobcat urine. You know, you can get some weird stuff. You can get like mountain lion urine if you really want to.

Really?

CRAIG

Oh yeah. And you can put it like on a tennis ball or a cotton ball and stick it in a hole where like, you know, that they're at. It won't last that long, but like, they'll freak out for a little while. Right.

Joey O'Neill

The question is, what do they do?

CRAIG

Yeah.

Joey O'Neill

Do they fight or do they flight?

CRAIG

Most of the time they'll flight, but like that, you know, pee dissipates and they can tell the difference between like recent and old. Like, is it safe to come back in here? I smelled it 3 days ago. You know what I mean? And so like you can, you can do those things and it can be effective, but it's not like long-term like protecting your home. And like my concern always is like if I don't Exclude them and keep them from getting back in, especially like with PEX now. Like they'll chew through PEX like none of it, and I don't I don't know what they're putting in it. I read a story one time that they were using there was a product that they were using in PEX that was

CRAIG

like attracting them, and I can't remember what it was. And somebody somebody said that was BS and all this kind of stuff. But like the amount of times I find squirrels chewing through PEX more than I do PVC. see is crazy. And so like that can cause like a leak and cause way bigger problems. We did one of those not too long ago where like the whole master bedroom flooded because a squirrel chewed through PEX and it just dumped water until the sheetrock exploded basically. And because they weren't home.

Jackie Parker

Yeah.

CRAIG

You know, so I mean there's, there's, there's stuff you can do, but like it's just not as good as like what's the best.

Joey O'Neill

Well, and one thing that I run into with folks, it doesn't seem like rodent prevention is the sexy thing.

CRAIG

No.

Joey O'Neill

People are just shy.

CRAIG

Until it's a problem. Until it's a problem, then it becomes very sexy.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, it seems to be sexy, like once the squirrel or the rodent gnaws through your water line and you have a leak in your house, That seems to be the time to call.

CRAIG

Yeah, every— everyone's Mother Earth attitude goes out the window when they flood your house.

Joey O'Neill

That is one interesting thing. Yes, it seems to be everyone is, you know, and I don't know why your average person would have a problem with squirrels walking down the street. I don't myself. I don't know why anyone else would necessarily. But once they— once they Once you have a water leak in your attic and you have this whole kerfuffle, and then you determine that the cause of the water leak is a squirrel, let me tell you, that whole pita stuff kind of goes a little bit out the window.

CRAIG

Everyone's like, I'm making dumplings tonight.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, once you get that first $20,000 bid to repair the damage caused, things get a little different. But that's one of those things where You know, it's, it's a lot like a lot of things. It's a lot like insurance. Insurance isn't something that people are, you know, running to go spend their money on. But let me tell you, if you were to get a $20,000 invoice or a $50,000 or $100,000 invoice, you know, what would the difference be to you whether you had insurance or not? Yeah, right. It's a whole different invoice.

Whitney

100%.

Joey O'Neill

If you have insurance from your— if you have, let's say, your medical insurance, And you're getting— and you have a tragic accident, and that's $100,000 from the hospital, let's just say, and you have insurance, well, that's one thing. You know the insurance is going to pay for it. When it comes to squirrels, rodents, really general pest control, there doesn't seem to be a lot of insurance coverage in that industry. And it's not something that people would talk about. It's not something that you would hear about in pop culture, you know, in your average— average TV broadcast, but the damage that pests can cause can be excessive. I mean, it can— they can be 5-figure. You got some very nice house, you might have a 6-figure if you have some water damage, or

Joey O'Neill

let's say, you know, I mean, you could have a 6-figure invoice from pests, but it's just not— it's not trendy to—

CRAIG

Yeah.

Joey O'Neill

You know, it's not a tangible upgrade to your home. There's there's a kitchen remodel where you can say, oh, we'll spend $20,000 on this kitchen remodel and everything will be great. And then, you know, let's say you, you get a quote for $100 a month for your rodent service, and it's like, well, that's $100 I could spend elsewhere. And well, that is true. When you get a $20,000, $30,000, $40,000, you know—

CRAIG

Yeah, it's what are you preventing? That's the thing.

Joey O'Neill

It's the prevention. That's not—

CRAIG

well, not so like This past year, a big one that popped up was Gene Hackman. Do you remember that? No, I don't. So, and I apologize if I get the facts on this wrong, but if I remember the story correctly, so I'm putting my disclaimer out there if I get this wrong. So I apologize if I get it wrong, but I think I remember reading, because he tragically died, he and his wife at the same time, and I think they determined that the cause of death was rotavirus. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I, I think if I remember correctly, it's been a minute, but like, I think that was— and we started getting an uptick in rodent calls because it was on the news quite a bit that people were like saying like, oh, they got the autopsy back from Gene Hackman, he and

CRAIG

his wife died of rotavirus, which you typically get from like rodent feces.

Interesting.

Joey O'Neill

You know, can you elaborate on, let's say, for the average homeowner, Do you kind of have a good explanation for maybe what rotavirus is and what the feces would have to do with contracting it?

CRAIG

I have no idea, honestly. I just know that like that's typically where people get it from, so which tells me that there's probably other ways that you can get it. And so that, that's why, you know, like when, like when you and I are supposed to go into like attics or spaces where people are telling us that they have rodent issues, we got to have our PPE on so that we're not contracting those kinds of things so that we can, you know, inspect without fear of getting infected.

Joey O'Neill

It's step number one. Yeah, I mean, when we're going, especially in a confined space, I mean, you know, I mean, it should be common knowledge, right? When you go into an enclosed space like a cave or a dungeon or maybe an attic or a crawl space that you've never been in before, you've never been in before, right? You know, you're supposed to wear a mask or a respirator to protect you from XYZ. Well, the rotavirus is one of those XYZs. That's not something that you're going to smell necessarily, or—

CRAIG

Well, it's— I think it's along the same lines as like bat guano, you know.

Mark Smith

That's what I think as well.

CRAIG

Amazing for making dynamite is not so good to breathe in. Right.

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, we just— man, we went out and looked at a bat job not too long ago. And bat guano can cause this, uh, I mean, all sorts of complications, but specifically respiratory infection.

CRAIG

Yep.

Joey O'Neill

Which can lead to further illness. And it's again one of those things where, you know, you'd be sitting in the hospital and you'd say, I'm sorry, doctor, why am I sick? And I have, I have the bat flu.

CRAIG

I'm sorry, what is it? What is it?

Joey O'Neill

It's, it's one of those things that you know, they don't talk about on Seinfeld or Friends, or, you know, things that don't just pop up in day-to-day life, but they are real realities where some of these animals that, um, you know, we love to look at at the zoo and, you know, look at online and in nature documentaries.

Kaylee Ingram

Yeah.

Joey O'Neill

They're fascinating creatures, right?

CRAIG

For sure.

Joey O'Neill

Absolutely fascinating. Um, but the reality of actually living next to them, as, um, can be I mean, catastrophic.

CRAIG

Horrific. Yeah.

Whitney

Yeah.

CRAIG

No, the house I'm living in now, when I bought it, I realized 2 weeks after it was infested with bats. Like, and I'm not— I don't mean like 2 or 3. I mean like 60.

Joey O'Neill

Oh, wow.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was crazy, man. And I learned a lot about bat exclusions and—

Joey O'Neill

Yeah, as firsthand experience will get you.

Jackie Parker

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Well, dude, I don't, I don't want to keep you. I just saw you and I wanted to make sure we had a chance to chat. and get it on camera. Oh sure, of course, of course.

Joey O'Neill

I did my makeup for this.

CRAIG

Oh good, thank you.

Mark Smith

I appreciate that.

CRAIG

No one wants to see the other version of that.

Joey O'Neill

No, I have only the best.

CRAIG

Well, tell everybody who you are and how to get a hold of you, bud.

Joey O'Neill

Sure, well, I'm Joey O'Neill. I own Alley Pest Control up here in The Woodlands, Texas. I'm very easy to reach. Of course, alleypestcontrol.com, 281- 877-297-8855, and we help with termites and pests and anything else that's trying to send you to the hospital on the off chance or chew your—

CRAIG

Good call. Chew your plumbing pipes.

Good call.

Joey O'Neill

You know, it's been a pleasure.

CRAIG

Thank you very much for having me. Dude, thanks for— thanks for jumping on.

You got it.

CRAIG

You have a good night, bud.

Joey O'Neill

You as well. Thanks.

CRAIG

All right, guys, we're gonna call it a night. Hope you've had fun. We've had fun. We're gonna catch you next time, but Uh, hope everybody has a good night. If you have not yet, click the subscribe button, hit the heart button, the like button, all the good stuff. Love you guys. We'll see you next time.

Whitney

Bye.

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