Show notes

In this episode, the discussion begins with an examination of the recent congressional hearing involving Dr. Fauci. The speakers delve into the complexities surrounding his pardon and the strategic decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment when questioned. They explore the potential legal ramifications and the broader implications of these proceedings, touching upon past controversies involving public health figures.

The conversation then shifts to a more personal and practical tone, featuring a review of the Air Doctor 3500 air purifier. The hosts share their experiences with the device, discussing its effectiveness, features, and ease of use. This segment highlights how modern technology can contribute to a healthier home environment.

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to appliance repair, specifically focusing on a GE refrigerator that ceased cooling. The speakers detail their step-by-step process of diagnosing and fixing the unit, utilizing AI tools like ChatGPT for guidance. They share the challenges and triumphs of replacing various components, emphasizing the cost-effectiveness and satisfaction derived from DIY repairs.

The episode also includes a brief discussion about vehicle maintenance, touching upon the increasing complexity of automotive systems, such as electronic power steering, and the associated costs of repair. Throughout these practical discussions, the underlying theme is the empowering nature of accessible knowledge and the satisfaction of problem-solving, whether it's fixing an appliance or understanding complex public health issues.

Transcript

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KEVIN

This is episode number 362 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We are so glad that you could join us for another live episode here in the studio. What's going on, Kev?

KEVIN

Oh, it's another day and man, life's pretty good.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

Yep. School's about to start up again, which I think all the parents are going, yeah. All the kids, honestly, my kids are—

CRAIG

They're excited?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, they kind of get excited about new classes, new teachers. This is an interesting year for my son because he started off at one elementary school, moved to a different elementary school, and those 2 elementary schools go to the same junior high.

CRAIG

Oh, okay. So he's gonna get to meet up with some new buddies.

KEVIN

Yeah. So he's, you know, he's kind of excited about that. And, um, uh, so it should be, should be a good year and, um, looking forward to kind of settling back into a little bit of a, of a rhythm. So anyway, how you doing?

CRAIG

I plead the Fifth.

KEVIN

Oh my gosh, you've been waiting on that for a while. Well done, sir. Well done.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Based on what?

CRAIG

Oh, the advice of my attorneys.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. That— I'll tell you what, man, if you have not been keeping up with the whole Fauci thing, uh, let me just say He's, he's not on trial.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

But he is involved in a hearing.

CRAIG

Should he be on trial?

KEVIN

Yeah. That's the question. He's in a congressional hearing, and they're trying to determine if she— if he should be on trial. And they basically— this can happen at any time to try to turn evidence over and try to figure things out.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

They can call these types of hearings to determine if something else needs to happen. It's almost kinda like a, like, like a grand jury on some level to find out, like, is this worth taking to trial type of thing? And what's bizarre about it is Fauci has been— he's been pardoned federally by Biden and for anything basically prior to January 19th, 2025. Yeah. And So when that happens, he could have like an outstanding parking ticket and wouldn't matter. Yeah, exactly. But, but when that happens and you get called in one of these types of hearings, you are compelled to answer because nothing can happen to you because you've been pardoned. Yep. And so what he did

KEVIN

was he came in, they asked him 111 questions. And he pled the Fifth to all of them, including things like, what's the color of your tie? What's the carpet in front of you? What's the color of the carpet in front of you? Like 111 times. And that wasn't the only— obviously there were real questions, but those questions he wouldn't even answer.

CRAIG

Dude, it's such a— it's a charade.

KEVIN

It is.

CRAIG

Like, there's like anybody that believes that anything's actually going to happen, Because of any of this.

KEVIN

It, it won't.

CRAIG

Nothing's going to happen.

KEVIN

No. And in fact, so you and I were talking about this before and the, I, I did a little bit of research and, and I'm not saying this is accurate because I'm not a, an attorney, legal scholar. I'm no, no, no, no. I'm far from it. I would love if, if you're a legalese person and you've got information on this, I'd love to hear if this is accurate. But I did a little bit of research and one of the things it said is that The pardon, it does protect him from a lot of stuff.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

But one of the things it doesn't protect him from is state crimes. So he's been pardoned federally, but it doesn't prevent him from being tried and convicted of state crimes. It also doesn't prevent him from being— well, it doesn't protect him from perjuring himself or bearing false witness. And if he does that, then he can be tried if he does that. And there's a couple of other things, but those are kind of the big ones. So I think he has decided to plead the Fifth so that he doesn't say something he shouldn't and so that the states can't come after him for something that he said.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Now, whether that's accurate or not, I don't know, but there's got to be a reason. There's got to be a reason he's not willing to answer these. Even if he says, uh, oh, I did it for whatever reason, it wouldn't matter otherwise because he's not going to get convicted. Even if he said, yep, you're right, I did that, I profited off of this, I, you know, I don't know, I withheld opportunities for people to get healed.

CRAIG

This is— this does seem like a play to sort of protect your legacy? Yeah. Because you say to yourself, how could it get any worse? It could probably get worse.

KEVIN

I'm sure it could.

CRAIG

Like, your reputation could get—

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

Oh, did you hear about— someone was saying that Barbra Streisand has the— what is it? That she could sue Fauci. For breaching doctor-patient confidentiality. Have you heard about this?

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Apparently, apparently, um, Barbra Streisand reached out to Fauci during the middle of the pandemic.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Uh, because she had sores on her bottom.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And he wrote about it in his private journal, which has now been taken into evidence and read aloud. And so they were— and made public.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And so, like, everyone knows that Barbra Streisand had sores on her bottom, and she was reaching out to him to see if it had something to do with the vaccine.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.

CRAIG

Wow. That's probably like the last way you want everyone in the country to find out that you were having some issues.

KEVIN

Of all— yeah. The whole thing, like you said, it's a charade. It's a dog and pony show. It's, it's— I— because ultimately, and again, unless he gets convicted, like, well, gets to the point where they go, look, we're gonna try you, one of the things that they could do is hold him in contempt for pleading the Fifth. That is apparently something that could be done. Now, what that means and like what would come of that, I don't know. But let's say he doesn't— like, even if he did get convicted of something here, mm-hmm, Like, so much of this is in the past. Like, I don't know. I'm— I think we all know that he's definitely guilty of a

KEVIN

lot of the things that they're like saying he's guilty of. Yeah. I think if he wasn't, he would be talking right now.

CRAIG

Well, but I heard, I heard somebody walk through this the other day, and it's like, you already know that he is willing to lie to everyone.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Right?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Because what was it initially? Oh, we don't need lockdowns.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Oh, you don't need a mask. Do you remember that?

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

And then he not only did he confess to lying about that.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

He said, I lied about it because I wanted to make sure that the doctors and the hospitals could get enough PPE before the public could.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so it wasn't that he was telling the truth.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

He was lying on purpose.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Now he had a reason for doing it. Was it a good one?

KEVIN

No. No.

CRAIG

It's a bunch of hooey. Bunch of hooey. So, and then it was, oh yeah, no, one mask is fine. And then when the public was like, well, if one mask is good, 2 masks is even better.

KEVIN

Even better.

CRAIG

He's like, well, you can wear 2 masks. Yeah, everyone wear 2 masks. It's like—

KEVIN

It's so stupid.

CRAIG

Who is this? And like, we're just gonna keep listening to this guy?

KEVIN

Right. No, I—

CRAIG

so like, I think that's part of the problem is we, we already know that he has propensity to not tell the truth.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So even if he did answer the questions, no one would believe him anyway.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Which I think is part of the calculation that he's making. He's like, well, what's the point of this? No one's going to believe what I say anyway.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Because I've already been caught lying.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Oh, and, and like when you told everyone that it was a wet market and you knew full well Like, because we know that you knew it wasn't full well because you wrote it down that you knew it wasn't full— like, that was not the case.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, look, so I think his biggest nemesis right now is the fact that he, because he's a doctor, one of the things he did, he wrote everything down.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, they have his diary. Whoops. 'Cause you wrote everything down.

CRAIG

'Cause you wrote everything down.

KEVIN

That, I mean, so it's like, we know.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And they have like, stacks and stacks of papers that are like email traces of conversations he had with people. Like, we know that he's guilty of these things, but because of the pardon, he's protected against all of those things.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

But he's compelled to say something in a congressional hearing like this, and he's not. So 111 times, man.

CRAIG

Well, and I was, I was telling you before the show, for those of you that haven't actually looked into this, like, this is not the first time Fauci's run this playbook.

KEVIN

Which I didn't know.

CRAIG

Yeah, it was. So he did the exact same thing with the AIDS epidemic.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Blows my mind. And when I say the exact same thing, I mean, like, falsified information, made it scarier than it was, made everybody think they needed treatments that they didn't really need.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Like, all kinds of stuff. Like, that one to me is actually way scarier than COVID. COVID, the government actually got more involved and just shut everything down. because people were supposedly spreading this disease, right? Well, AIDS was different because we all thought that was transmitted sexually, right? So it was a different animal. But it— like, when you look into what he did, it's just as nefarious.

KEVIN

Sure. Um, well, it's on the same playing field from the same person.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and he, he profited off of the AIDS stuff because this is the other thing you told me that I didn't realize. He held the patents for those drugs.

CRAIG

I don't know that he held the patents, but like he profited off of the treatments.

KEVIN

The treatments, that's what it is.

CRAIG

Yeah, I don't think he had the patents because those are typically held by pharmaceutical companies and they tend to keep those separate.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

You know, but like we, if, I mean, just watch an episode of Scrubs. Like, I think there's like a famous episode where like Heather Locklear comes through and like is like dancing in front of doctors, luring them into using their pharmaceuticals.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like we know that they play well together. Sure.

KEVIN

Of course.

CRAIG

So that's, that's more likely what was going on is he was profiting off of, you know, okay, you should use this treatment. I'm the guy that's in charge of this epidemic. Hey, everybody, use this treatment.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And then the, you know, the kickbacks or whatever it is.

KEVIN

It's messed up.

CRAIG

Yeah. So anyway, so we're gonna, we're gonna get in your refrigerator. But along the same lines, Air Doctor from Ideal Living sent us an air purifier.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it's awesome.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So I've, I've been running it now for about a month.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, it, it's the Air Doctor 3500. If you, if you go look it up online, it's— I mean, you can go to airdoctorpro.com. Um, you've, you may— if you listen to the show, you've probably, you know, heard an ad or two about it. Um, super easy to set up. And this one, the one that they sent us, is like for like an entire living room. Um, but the— what The reason I say it is conjunction to what we're talking about is the specs on it say, let's see, I can pull it up here. Yeah, so removed 99.97% of live SARS-CoV-2 in a lab.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

Out of the air.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

And then 99.99% of bacteria, virus, and viruses, including H1N1.

KEVIN

Incredible.

CRAIG

Yeah. So, and it like, it's, it's self-sensing, like it runs when it needs to. Um, and it is the simplest thing in the world to set up. Um, I was actually in a, uh, a doctor's office the other day. That's one of my clients. And I saw one.

KEVIN

Oh, really?

CRAIG

And I was like, hey, where'd you guys, where'd you? And she was like, oh no, uh, our, the doctor that owns this office, she has like 5 of them in her house.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

Uh, and so we got one for the office and we just—

KEVIN

Interesting. Um, is it loud?

CRAIG

No, not at all.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I mean, it'll— it's, it sounds, um, I'm trying to think of something that— because I mean, like, it does make a little bit of noise.

KEVIN

Like, I've got a dehumidifier sound in my mind. Like, those are— those can be a little bit noisy.

CRAIG

They could be a little bit noisy. It's not— it, it's quieter than a box fan on 1. Okay. Like, it just—

KEVIN

and it's white noise.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's, it's not, it's not loud at all. Like, you would barely even register it when it's in the room.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

The only thing is, I, I highly recommend if you're going to get one to download the app and let it monitor the system for you because it will tell you when to replace the filter.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And that's, that's really the entire setup for the system.

KEVIN

That's the maintenance.

CRAIG

It comes in a box. You take it out of the box, you gotta open it up and take the filter out. And this is the key part, take the packaging off the filter.

KEVIN

Okay. Well, yeah, makes sense.

CRAIG

It's plastic wrapped. So it's not, it's not gonna do anything if you don't, if you don't take it off.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So you just gotta remember to take the plastic off the, the filter.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Put the filter in and then just let it go.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

And it, it does, it, it'll, you know, run and it'll sense things in the room. And when it sense— senses that something, a contaminant's in the air or whatever, it'll just run.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

And just does its thing.

KEVIN

So I, when I look on the website, it says that it removes pollutants, um, other than what ordinary purifiers do, including pet dander, which for a lot of people, that's a huge big deal. In fact, my, my wife is allergic to pet dander. So we, and we have an indoor dog. Now he, we, he doesn't shed, but all dogs, even non-shedding dogs, they, they have dander to them. So removes that. dust, which is a big one, volatile organic compounds, which I don't even know what that is, toxic gases, mold spores, pollen, viruses and bacteria, which you mentioned, and smoke. So that's pretty impressive.

CRAIG

Yeah. And like, you know how like things can just smell clean?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

It smells clean in my living room all the time now.

KEVIN

Which, and, and I, I think that that is important to note for a couple reasons. Number one, you have dogs that are indoor and yours do shed.

CRAIG

Oh, massively.

KEVIN

Yeah, you, you have shedding dogs that live inside, or, or at least they come inside. Um, and I will tell you that my, my parents also have a purifier in their home. Uh, it's different than this one, but there is a distinct smell that it has, but it's a clean smell. Like it smells I think that some homes, whether you mean for them to or not, you walk into them, they just kind of smell musty or dusty or, you know, it smells like the dinner you made the night before.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

You know, I mean, it's just, they're—

CRAIG

Lingering odors.

KEVIN

Right. And I think that's normal to have those types of things. And what happens is over time, you just kind of get used to those and you walk into your house and it's smells like your house, you know?

CRAIG

The one that bugs me the most, man, is when people— when a house smells like cat pee. Oh, and it's like, how do you not notice that?

KEVIN

Yeah. How are you used to that?

CRAIG

Yeah. And it like hits you in the face.

KEVIN

It does.

CRAIG

When you walk in your house and like, you don't wanna be rude.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But you're like, what the hell?

KEVIN

Yeah. Come on, man. Yeah. Uh, I'm curious about a couple other things. What kind of footprint does it have?

CRAIG

So it is, I'm trying to think. So it sits right next to my son's computer desk downstairs.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

In between that and my armchair. And it comes up to about the arm on my armchair.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And then it's, I mean, it's about half the width of my armchair.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

It's like half the width of an armchair and comes up to like the arm.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

So like it's very low profile. It is bright white. So I'm like, if you have like a dark room, it's gonna stand out.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But it just sits in the corner.

KEVIN

Okay. Have you had to replace the filter yet?

CRAIG

No, because I mean, the app will tell me when it's dirty and needs—

KEVIN

But how long have you had it in your house at this point? About a month.

CRAIG

About a month.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I think it says it needs to be replaced once every 3 months or something like that. That's about how often. I mean, unless you have a really dirty house.

KEVIN

Well, yeah, I would expect that the first 3 months might be a little bit more dirty than from their own.

CRAIG

Yeah. If you've never had one before.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

For sure.

KEVIN

So, I mean, I, I will tell you one of the things that if you've listened to us long enough, you know that we're not just gonna tell, tell you the, the raw truth. We are gonna tell you the raw truth. We're not gonna tell you like what the company wants us to tell you about this, cuz that's just not who we are.

CRAIG

No, no, no.

KEVIN

Uh, but it sounds like it works well. Yeah. Yeah.

CRAIG

Well, and I think, I think one thing that's, You know, if you got it, it might be a misconception. It does have 3 filters on it.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

So, but like the pre-filter is really the one that has to be changed periodically.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

The other 2 is a carbon VOC filter, and then it has a HEPA filter as well.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So like this thing is, it is gonna scrub the air in that area.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, you know, now do you, You know, like, my physician friend, like, she bought one to, like, go throughout the entire home. Because, and I think that, I think that's an important distinction is, like, it's gonna, like, this, this one in particular, the 3500, it's, it's good for, like, bedrooms, kitchens, living rooms, things like that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But, like, it's, don't expect it to, like, get the next room over.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

You know what I mean?

KEVIN

That's not what it's trying to do.

CRAIG

No. It's, it's for that room.

KEVIN

Do you think that there's ever, this is a completely tangential question. Do you think that there, I think some of these already exist, But do you think that some of these companies would ever create some sort of, uh, like an in-ceiling type of situation where it like does multiple rooms but you just put it in the ceiling, you know?

CRAIG

Well, I think some air conditioning systems—

KEVIN

I know some do because they've got even like the— what is it— the— they got the UV, the UV filters in them and things like that, which I think is supposedly gonna help with some of this kind of stuff. It kind of, it kind of cleanses the, the air.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

What it does, the UV, it really helps with the air going into the house.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

That it pulls from outside. Which I would think the more you clear the air that's coming in and expel the air going out, It makes sense to me that those would work.

CRAIG

Same.

KEVIN

But I would— I'm just curious, like, some of these, they're great, but again, they do have a footprint and they do make a little bit of noise and those sorts of things. I, I just— I wonder sometimes maybe there's a whole home situation, but not what we're talking about here. Again, just completely tangential, but, um, No, it looks great. Do— but there's nothing you don't have to— other than the filter, you don't have to do anything else?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

No, no. I mean, just, you know, and the, you know, as long as you give the app permission to give you notifications, it'll tell you, you know, when everything needs to be done or if there's any problems with it.

KEVIN

Well, in the, so just, just a couple of things that I'll mention that I'm reading. So first of all, the, the website is extremely helpful. Like, it gives you a whole bunch of information.

CRAIG

Oh yeah. And there's other ones other than the one that they sent us.

KEVIN

Right. This is just the, this is what they call the middleweight contender. Yeah. Um, but I mean, it will do on average, it says circulate 630 square feet.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

4 times an hour.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It does that 4 times an hour. So I mean, you think about an hour at my house, at least in my main living area, which is probably a little bit more than 600 square feet, but that main living area, the number of times a dog or a child comes from the inside to the outside and then from the outside back into the inside is a lot.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

In an hour sometimes. So I would think that that would be necessary. 4 times in an hour. That seems reasonable to me.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And it, but even, even if you have a larger space, like 1,200 square foot, it'll do that twice an hour.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Roughly. So, I mean—

CRAIG

I mean, they make bigger ones.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Than, than the one that we have, but the one that they, they sent is plenty.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

For our downstairs living room.

KEVIN

Right. So, and which is a, that's a pretty large space down there.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. It's a pretty good size.

CRAIG

I forget what the dimensions are, but it's, it's not 600 square feet. I'll tell you that much. I mean, it's—

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Maybe $400. Okay.

KEVIN

Well, so I guess the end result here is you like it, you recommend it. If you're looking for an air filter, it's a decent one that really performs well.

CRAIG

And we've never had one in the house ever.

KEVIN

Yeah, we haven't either.

CRAIG

And so I was like, I was really interested in trying it out and seeing if it made a difference. And my son is highly susceptible to like, pollen and things like that. And, you know, when he goes outside, he picks stuff up and starts sneezing. But like, he's fine when he's inside.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Good to know. He didn't want to be inside, but—

KEVIN

No, no. My, my son doesn't either. He'd rather be outside most of the time.

CRAIG

So let's talk about this fridge, man.

KEVIN

Yeah. So this is an interesting situation.

CRAIG

We've talked about this infamous fridge in the past.

KEVIN

Yeah. So, uh, A couple of things I will tell you. I, I, I feel pretty good about myself because— did you— did I tell you about our portable air conditioner that I— that wasn't working well at the beginning of the season?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

So I've got a Midea, really— it's a really nice, uh, portable air conditioner, and it's one of those that attaches to the, to the window. Okay. And but it's got, it's got a big like a rectangle hose. And it's, so it's got 2 systems. It's got an exit hose and an intake hose. So what that means is all the air that it pulls in gets pulled in from outside rather than from like under the door.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So we've got ours in the garage, which is good because that means it's not pulling air from inside or from underneath the, uh, the garage door or anything like that. Um, because once you start circulating air that way, it's not very efficient at cooling that air. If it brings hot air in from outside, it's really efficient because it takes it into the unit immediately and cools it and only blows out the cold air. So really, really efficient. We've been extremely happy with this thing. I mean, It'll get our garage down to 70 degrees and we bring our dogs in at night. So it's, it's really, really good for that. Plus, like, if you start storing stuff in your garage, I mean, it just dry rots

KEVIN

like anything else because it's hot in there.

CRAIG

Yeah. Or melts.

KEVIN

Or melts. Yeah, absolutely. So it, the beginning of this season, it was probably a year and a half into having it. And I'm like, this thing is not keeping up. Like, I don't know what's going on. So I did some research on it and changing the outside filter is not enough. And I did not know that. You need to break that thing down and it is an in-depth process. I mean, there, I think I took out 30 screws.

CRAIG

Oh, dang.

KEVIN

And there were like clips that you had to like carefully remove and like the whole, the, like the thing came apart from the front to the back. And it's like any air conditioner, you have to clean the, the, the wheel that turns in there and all kinds of stuff. And dude, it was caked. And I'm like, I did not even know it's got a filter on the outside of this thing. I thought that's all it needed, but no. Um, once I cleared that thing, it started working beautifully again. I'm like, all right, feeling kind of good about myself. I've fixed something.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, these things are not cheap. I mean, those things are like $600, $700, some of them.

CRAIG

I feel like every man at some point in time, most men, have the Castaway experience.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

It's just like, look, look what I have made.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

Look what I've done.

KEVIN

Look what I've done. Because I mean, I'm sitting here, I'm telling my wife, my wife is like, man, I don't want to have to buy another one. And I'm like, I got you. And I go out there and I fix it and I'm like, we don't have to buy a new one. That just took me 3 hours of my life. But, and I had to take it apart 4 times.

CRAIG

Oh geez.

KEVIN

Because I thought I had it back together and I kept finding excess parts. I'm like, whoops. Oops. Shouldn't have done that. But anyway, so I'd already felt pretty good about myself and this fridge has been nagging for a while. So I bought this fridge, off of someone on Facebook Marketplace a few years ago, probably 3 years ago now. It worked pretty well. Uh, it's a side-by-side, it's a GE side-by-side, uh, residential refrigerator, but it's our drink refrigerator primarily. And that's how I know I'm an adult, because I have a garage refrigerator with drinks in it. There you go. That's how I know I'm an adult. So, um, it stopped cooling, and what happened was the freezer was at -6 degrees,

KEVIN

which it should have been at 0 roughly, and the refrigerator had gone up to like 57, 58. And so I don't know anything about appliance repair. So I've, as I mentioned before, I got on ChatGPT and it said, hey, like, take a picture of the coils. I don't know where the coils are. So it tells me, literally tells me, Take a picture of it. I took a picture and said, oh, there are the screws. And it like marked on a picture where they were. I was like, oh, okay, I can do that. Remove the panel. And of course, all the coils are completely frozen over. So what was happening was because they were frozen over,

KEVIN

the way this fridge works, and not all refrigerators work this way, but the, all of the cold air gets created in the freezer.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And then there is an evaporator fan that blows that air into, like, through a damper into the refrigerator. And so, um, I've learned so much about how refrigerators work. Um, but there's a thermistor in the fridge and a thermistor in the, in the freezer. Do you know what a thermistor is?

CRAIG

No idea.

KEVIN

I didn't either. Um, glad you asked. So a thermistor is simply something that reads the temperature. So you remember when we talked about the Ecobee?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So the Ecobee, one of the things that's brilliant about the Ecobee thermostat, which is just residential thermostat, many of you probably have it in your house, they have like little nodes that are, that you can put in different rooms.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

And it will read the temperature. That's basically a thermistor.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

All it does is it reads the temperature and it sends information back to the thermostat. So, um, that'll come into play in a minute. So the damper in mine is, is not mechanical. Some of them apparently are. I didn't know that. This one, it just, when the air starts flowing, the damper opens. It's just a little flap. That's all it is. So it was like, okay, probably what's happening is the control board has gone bad.

CRAIG

Mhm.

KEVIN

And I'm like, okay, well, I don't— what, a control board? Where is that thing? Pretty simple. It's right in the back of the— you like literally in the back, not on the inside of the back, but on the back. You pull it out, couple of screws, and you remove a couple of wires that are pigtailed in. Just pull them out. You take screws, take the thing out, put it back in, pigtail the new one, put the new one in, and it's good to go.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, it was a 5-minute change. Didn't take any, it was super easy. So I changed that out and it started working again. I'm like, great, this thing works. But then about 3 weeks later, it froze over again. It didn't take too long, froze over again, and same problem as before. So that's whenever ChatGPT was like, well, let— maybe the thermistors went bad. Maybe it's not reading the temperature correctly, so it doesn't know when to send the air over the right way. So I'm like, all right, great. I changed the thermistor in the fridge, found it. I could not find the one in the freezer. And I'm like, I think it's up behind something else, and I don't wanna rip this whole thing apart. I don't know what I'm doing. And so I was

KEVIN

like, I don't know. I couldn't change the thermistor. And it was like, well, it's probably not the one in the freezer. It's probably the one in the fridge. Let's try it again. So it ran for about 3 weeks, froze over again. And I'm like, oh my goodness, this is, this is killing me. And we were literally— I was literally to the point where I was like, I'm just gonna get a new one. 'Cause I, 'cause I don't have the time. It happened during the summer. I'm like, I don't have the time to like switch, like take all my stuff out of the fridge, put it somewhere.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And then let this thing thaw out and turn it back on so it'll run for another 2 to 3 weeks. and just to have this happen again. Um, but I also don't want to go spend the money on another refrigerator. So I kind of got to the point where I was like, what's the worst that could happen? If I'm going to throw this thing away, yeah, just take it apart and figure it out. So one of the things it told me was that it could be the defrost heater.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Do you know what the defrost heater does?

CRAIG

I assume it heats up to defrost the coils.

KEVIN

It's exactly what it does, but I didn't know what it did. And it basically told me, hey, it's in this location. And I'm like, I don't know what that is. Took a picture. It's like, oh, here it is. I see it. Which is funny whenever ChatGPT or any AI model tells you, I see it right there. It's like, you don't see anything. You don't see anything. But it told me where it was and it said, here's what I want you to do. I want you to take the— there's 2 wires going into it from either side of the coils. Take those out. And I want you to, which basically takes all the power from it. And I want you to take, uh, an ohm, a volt-ohmmeter

KEVIN

and see what you get by touching either side of those, those, uh, connections.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Let me tell you, I have a volt-ohmmeter. I don't understand those things at all. Do you understand them?

CRAIG

A little bit. I mean, that's the thing is like enough to get myself into trouble.

KEVIN

Yeah. Yeah, like when ChatGPT tells me to do this and do that, I can do it. But like, there are people out there, they're like, oh yeah, just turn this and touch this to the black to the red and blah blah blah. I'm like, I don't know. Um, well, nothing was really happening, but when I looked at this thing, I was like, this thing doesn't look good. And it was like, well, try this. And so it told me to like take the end caps off of the defrost thermistor. And so I did, and it was like, you should see like a, like a barb coming out of that thing, and you can just test it from either side. Well, when I did that, a spring

KEVIN

about an inch and a half on either side came out. And I was like, this thing looks rusty. And like the whole— there's a tube that is— that it—

CRAIG

those—

KEVIN

that spring apparently went into, and I'm— it's black. And I'm like, That can't be right. So I got on Amazon, $18, I can buy another whole housing for this thing. Like it's the entire defrost heater and it came with a new thermistor and it came with a new thermostat. And I'm like, I'll do that.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I get it in, dude, the, the piece of glass tube is completely clear and there is a spring running through the entire thing.

CRAIG

Oh, so it like, it burned up this—

KEVIN

It burned up and rusted through, whatever it did. And so I'm like, I think I found the problem. I really do. I'm like, the defrost heater wasn't working, which makes sense.

CRAIG

That it kept icing over.

KEVIN

It kept icing over. I installed it and I was like, oh, when I had this stuff apart, I was like, oh, there's the thermistor. I might as well change it. Oh, there's the thermostat. So by the way, the only thing the thermostat does in a refrigerator, it's different than your thermostat at home. The only thing it does is when it reads from the thermistor a certain temperature, it opens or closes.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And as soon as it opens or closes, then it turns on the coils or turns off the coils. That's all it really does. So replacing thermostat and replacing thermistor. So I got all this replaced and I'm like, look at me.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I got this done. Plugged it back in. Everything's like, okay, I think I fixed this thing. Uh, it got down to 7 degrees in the, in the freezer, all like within a few hours, and it was still 65 degrees on the refrigerator side. And I'm like, what in the world? And I reached up to where like the, like the, the air comes into the refrigerator. Nothing. And so it's like, I think the fan must not be blowing correctly. And I'm like, are you kidding me? So I look where the fan is. I didn't even know where the fan was.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Found it. It's at the top of the coils. The defrost heater is at the bottom of the coils. So it pulls that, that air up and shoots it over into the fridge. It wouldn't turn on. I'm like, you've gotta be kidding me. There is no way that just coincidentally this thing worked and now it doesn't. But, um, it's like, I think you probably need to replace that motor because it's not turning. So I got on Amazon and it was $18 also to buy a new motor for this thing.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I did. Now I had to take everything apart. Like literally I'm taking parts all over this thing off. Like I'm splicing wires together, all kinds of stuff that I had no clue what I was doing. And, um, Put the new motor for the fan in. Fan starts, starts working, and I'm like, oh, so let's see what happens. Plug it in, everything works.

CRAIG

Been fine ever since.

KEVIN

Everything works. Everything's— so now, so literally—

CRAIG

Altogether, altogether, how much did you spend?

KEVIN

Okay, great question. Altogether, with the control board, which was the most, most expensive piece, I've replaced the control board, the thermistor in both the fridge and the freezer, the thermostat, the defrost heater, and the evaporator fan motor. $140. There you go. $140, way cheaper than a brand new fridge. But let me tell you, I got a brand new fridge. Literally the only thing that I haven't replaced is the coils themselves and the compressor. And the compressor works fine because it gets cold. without any issues.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, I will tell you the one thing that is a little bit interesting right now. So I did all of this, I think I got it done like 3, 4 days ago, and everything's been working great, but my fridge is running too cold now. I've got it set on 0 for the freezer and 38, I had it on 39, right, for the fridge, and it was reading at like in the 20s. So, uh, the, the fridge was— so, uh, it's too cold. I actually had one of the Cokes in there freeze up and bust.

CRAIG

Oh no.

KEVIN

Like, it didn't like spew, but it did leak. Um, and so that was not good. So I've, I've increased the temperature up to 42. I did that this morning.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

So I'm going to check it when I get home tonight and see If that kind of controls itself. If it doesn't, I may have something else I got to figure out. But the, the reality of it is this fridge is basically brand new.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And it, it cools. Everything's working.

CRAIG

Obviously it cools just fine.

KEVIN

Cools just fine. But I, I guarantee that the main issue, I did not need to replace the control board. I'm almost positive. I don't think I need to replace either of the thermistors or the thermostat. I think it was defrost heater. And then I do think that probably about the life of that defrost heater was also the life of the motor. And so once I fixed that, everything's working great.

CRAIG

Well, and I think sometimes when it comes to like parts and pieces like that on appliances, when you replaced one, they've all sort of learned how to function inefficiently together.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so when you, when you replace one and it starts creating efficiency, like it causes the other ones to fail.

KEVIN

I think you're probably right.

CRAIG

So, and I think that's just part of having like an older appliance.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I'm about to go through the same thing, I think, with the fridge in my kitchen.

KEVIN

Oh, really?

CRAIG

Because the ice maker has just stopped.

KEVIN

Oh, really?

CRAIG

Yeah. Which we haven't talked about this. I have a brand new ice maker that I bought for my guys.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

So they can fill up their coolers. I have plenty of ice.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

But it's just not in my kitchen.

KEVIN

Not in your kitchen where you want it.

CRAIG

So I can go get ice if I really need it, but Like, that's not the point. No, like my ice maker should be making ice.

KEVIN

Well, so I actually had this issue with my indoor fridge.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

And what was, what had happened, and, uh, I, I think I ultimately know what the issue is, but what was happening is the, where it dumps the ice got frozen over.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

And there's like a, there was a chunk of ice back there. And I think what has happened is it hit the actual, 'cause those things like they're inside the fridge typically. I don't think it's sealed up very well. And I think over time it had like the seal around it has loosened and air is getting in and it's not freezing.

CRAIG

Causing it to condensate.

KEVIN

So whenever it does freeze, it creates a block of ice back there. So what I've done is I've gotten a, uh, like a knife or something else. I've like hacked at that piece of ice, got it to fall out of there and it starts making ice again. But that's not the problem.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

That's the, that's the symptom. There's another problem.

CRAIG

And so my, my son has gotten quite skilled because it's, it's one of those, uh, double door top fridges.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

The ice maker's in the upper left-hand corner.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

But then the freezer's in a drawer at the bottom.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And that has definitely— the seals on that are not great.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Which I'm gonna look into, like, what it actually takes to replace seals.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I can't imagine that's terribly difficult.

KEVIN

I wouldn't think so.

CRAIG

But every once in a while, underneath the drawers, there is just this sheet of ice.

KEVIN

Oh man.

CRAIG

And like, it's his favorite thing in the world, and he gets so mad if he can't get it out in one solid piece.

KEVIN

Oh, he wants to play with it.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, well, he just—

KEVIN

he wants to take it outside and Break it, didn't he?

CRAIG

No, he, no, he just, it, to him it's like, all right, I'm skilled enough. I should be able to get this out in one solid piece. And so it just makes him mad. That's funny. When he, when he can't get, when, when it breaks off, he's like, ah, have to wait till the next time.

KEVIN

Oh, that's funny. That is funny.

CRAIG

But it's his favorite thing, man.

KEVIN

Yeah. Uh, that is interesting. I will tell you one of the things I've noticed, and I don't know if, um, cuz ours is basically the same thing. Uh, the ice bucket, the bin that it goes in. Mm-hmm. Uh, there's a crack in it.

CRAIG

Oh.

KEVIN

And I don't know if that has anything to do with it either. If like maybe again, some air is escaping somewhere.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I don't know, but surely there's a way to fix these types of— here's what I've learned. If you will take the time to use AI to help you understand what you're seeing, it just needs to know a model number. and it will go find the, the manual for that thing and help you. Like, you can literally take pictures and it'll go, oh yeah, it's this, it's this, you know, show me this, use a voltmeter in this way. Like, I, I was shocked at what I was able to do with zero knowledge of what I was doing. Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, it's, it's, it's almost better than like YouTube University.

KEVIN

It is. In, in fact, one of the things that I did do actually at one point whenever I was replacing the fan motor, is I— so it told me what to do, and then I went to YouTube and found a video showing me how to do it.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So, you know, you can use those things in conjunction with each other a little bit. But man, I think it's like, there's a lot of things that break in your life, like whether it's an appliance or it's a, you know, a small engine, like a lawnmower or weed eater or something like that. Man, I think that we live in a world of, of knowledge that is accessible.

CRAIG

Well, the, the cool part about that is once you do it, you can do it again.

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

And you probably don't have to look it up again.

KEVIN

Right. You know, that's exactly right.

CRAIG

So, but we've, but we've also talked about this before. I mean, like at some point in time, there's gonna be stuff that's just not worth your time.

KEVIN

For sure.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and one of the ones I'm, I'm having somebody else do right now is I have a, old Honda four-wheeler.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, it's 20-plus years old.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

But it's a Honda motor. The motor, the motor on it runs like a champ. Okay. It's fantastic. You, you almost have to work to kill those things.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but went out—

KEVIN

Is it Briggs Stratton motor?

CRAIG

No, no, no, no, it's a Honda motor.

KEVIN

Oh, is it?

CRAIG

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, uh, but what went out on it is it has an electronic shifter.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And those are rather complicated.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, you know, I know, I mean, I put like a manual shifter on the transmission. It's got like a little foot switch, but it's not, one, it's not intended to be used that way on a regular basis. It's not convenient to use it. It's hard to shift, but they put it there for exactly this situation. Like you need to limp it to the mechanic or you need to move it around the shop.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

You can do that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Manually. But I took it to the guy and I was like, hey man, like this thing's like 22 years old, electronic shifter. I mean, can you even find those parts? He goes, oh yeah. And I was like, what am I looking at to, you know, get this thing, the shifter back up and running? He goes, eh, parts, probably $300.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And I was like, do it.

KEVIN

Yeah, now.

CRAIG

Do it. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Just call me when it's ready.

KEVIN

Yeah, because I think you bring up a good point. I mean, we've, how often when we were repping Lone Star Appliance Repair, did we say you— most of the time something can be repaired and it's not going into a landfill, right? Like, I— it would have been just as easy for me to go, I don't have the time, or I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm just gonna go buy another one. It's fixable for $140.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Like, $300 for your, for your four-wheeler. Like, it's, it's one of those deals where it's like, okay, you're saving money and you're keeping things out of the landfill. And oh, by the way, you feel pretty good about yourself afterwards. I literally feel like, ah, I can take on the world. My dad was like, oh, maybe you could do side business appliance repair.

CRAIG

I was like, no, stop it.

KEVIN

Stop it. I will not do that.

CRAIG

You can tell him when he retires, he can come work for you and do it.

KEVIN

That's exactly right. No, because I didn't enjoy the Like, I didn't enjoy the physical work of doing it. What I enjoyed was the learning process.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I was like, now I understand this thing. Like, you're— honestly, now I will keep this fridge for a very long time.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Because if something else goes out, I will know where to go, how to diagnose it, how to take everything apart. Like, the parts are available on Amazon. They got there the next day or 2 days.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

You know? Like, not that big of a deal.

CRAIG

Yeah, and if you know what you're looking for, you can usually find it on there.

KEVIN

Yeah, absolutely. And now they had genuine GE parts available. Like they had the original OEM fan motor. It was $82. This one was $18. And I was like, look, if this works, $18. And it works great. I mean, OEM stuff is out there, I could have used OEM stuff, but I was like, I don't need it.

CRAIG

Right. So I tell you one that happened to me the other day that blew my fricking mind.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

One of my company's vehicles went down and it's a, I think that one's a 2017 Ram 1500.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And employee called me and said, hey, power steering's not working. And I'm like, ugh, did you? And I was like, did you check the fluid? And he goes, I can't find the fluid. fluid.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And I was like, I'll be right there.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So came and popped the hood. I'm looking around and I'm like, I do not see a reservoir for power steering fluid.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

And I'm like, what is going on here? And so I get on ChatGPT.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I'm like, hey, where's the power steering reservoir on this thing?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And it responds back. He goes, oh, they got rid of that system years ago. They're all electronic now.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

Like servo motors.

KEVIN

Oh, interesting.

CRAIG

And I was like, oh, suck.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So I took it, I take it into the shop.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And then—

KEVIN

How hard was it to get to the shop?

CRAIG

Uh, it was a chore.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I, I did it.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna make anybody else do it.

KEVIN

I did it. Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, which by the way, you can drive without power steering.

KEVIN

Of course.

CRAIG

It sucks.

KEVIN

People used to do it all the time.

CRAIG

But—

KEVIN

With, with honestly heavier vehicles than we were in now.

CRAIG

So, um, you'll, you'll find out how tough you are when you do it.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But I get it to the shop and the guy checks it out and he goes, yeah, the power steering motor went out.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And he goes, this does happen relatively often. He goes, and just FYI, they're on back order for like 2 to 3 months.

KEVIN

Oh no.

CRAIG

And I was like, okay. And he goes, now there's, if you don't want OEM, we can get you a brand new one. He goes, but that's gonna run you 4 grand.

KEVIN

Oof.

CRAIG

And I was like, are you serious right now?

KEVIN

4 grand?

CRAIG

4 grand. And I said, what else can I do? And he goes, well, you can get a used one. Um, it'll come off a truck that has about 100,000 miles on it. He goes, but the one you just took off was on a truck that had 220,000 miles, so it should last a while.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

He goes, it might cost you a little bit more if we have to reprogram it.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And I'm like, what the hell are we doing?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

We have to program our power steering now?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, I don't know about you. I grew up, it was like, it was part of the engine. There was like a—

KEVIN

It is.

CRAIG

It was part of the belt system and it had a reservoir.

KEVIN

Yeah. My truck right out there, if I have an issue with the power steering, for $8.99, I go buy a quart of power steering fluid, put it in there, voilà.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

It works great.

CRAIG

That's not a thing anymore.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. So there's a lot of reasons Why, I'm like, I'm going to keep that truck for a long time. I mean, there's some things on it that's like, I was driving around a church van the other day that has push-button start. It's got like 360 cameras on it. The thing was awesome. And there are times when I'm like, new vehicle would be nice. Then I'm like, nah, the one I've got is just fine. Just fine. It's paid off.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It's so good.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know?

CRAIG

And that was honestly the calculation I'm having to do on this one. I'm like, OK, even if I had to spend $4,000, that's still way cheaper than buying a new one.

KEVIN

Of course it is.

CRAIG

And everything else on it's running fine.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

There's a couple little things that need to be fixed here and there, but those are little things. I can do that.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

But it was still like, never in my wildest dreams would I have expected to have to pay $4,000 to change the power steering. I went with the used one.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

It's got over 200,000 miles on it.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I'm not spending 4 grand.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

On power steering.

KEVIN

'Cause something else is gonna happen.

CRAIG

Especially if I have another option. So it ended up costing me like $1,800.

KEVIN

Well, it's less than half of the other one.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, I haven't made a payment on that truck in like 3 years.

KEVIN

Yeah, so it's done what you needed it to.

CRAIG

You know, so it's, anyway.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

There's always a calculation in these things.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Right?

KEVIN

There is.

CRAIG

You know, there is. Whether it's a refrigerator, a four-wheeler, a car.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Like whatever.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

There's always a calculation to be made. Can I do this myself?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Should I get somebody else to do this?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

You know?

KEVIN

Well, and I, look, I, I will just tell you that there is every reason why someone would've gone, I can't do this. If this was my primary refrigerator, I couldn't do this.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Like, I, I, I would have to either bring out a professional to get it done immediately.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

And yes, would I pay more? Yeah, I would. But the reality of it is it would've been fixed a long time ago 'cause they know what they're doing. I'm learning what I need to do. But this is a supplemental fridge. And I don't have to have cold drinks every day.

CRAIG

Right. You can go without for a while.

KEVIN

I can go without for a little while and it's not that big of a deal. I can put ice in my Coke if I want to. And so, yeah, is that, is it, convenient that it wasn't my primary? Yeah. Uh, you know, if you've got a car that needs work and you've got an extra one that you can use, really helps. Um, but realistically, it's like, there comes a point where you, you have to weigh that. We, we used to have, and we need to get it back up. We used to have that calculator, right?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Yeah. That, that calculator. And one of the questions on the calculator that dramatically changed the price of something was how bad do you want to do this?

CRAIG

Yeah. Or how, how, how much do you enjoy?

KEVIN

How much do you enjoy it? Yeah. So anyway, I just, I, I wanted to put it out there. I had no clue what I was doing.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

And now I have a functioning fridge again. So maybe give ChatGPT a try.

CRAIG

If it doesn't hurt to like, if it, if it can explain it to you in a way that makes sense and you're like, oh, I think I could do that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's probably a good way to go.

KEVIN

It is.

CRAIG

So it is, and it's like it's available. I mean, right, give it a whirl.

KEVIN

That's right. Well, what else do we need to talk about? Anything? We're good, right?

CRAIG

No, I think we're good, man.

KEVIN

Well, cool.

CRAIG

I mean, we got other stuff we're gonna— we got other episodes coming up, but, um, yeah, that's good for now.

KEVIN

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