Show notes

In this episode Craig and Kevin go through an article that denotes the top things you are doing wrong when decorating for Christmas. At the end of the day, decorating for Christmas should be a fun time with your family and something you can enjoy for many years. This episode takes you through all the ways you may be doing it wrong, including a couple of bonus things you’re doing wrong. Let us know what some of your Christmas traditions are!

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KEVIN

This is episode number 169 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're so glad you could join us for another episode on the extra late night edition. of The Homeowner Show here in the studio. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

Man, I'm doing good. I guess it is late. It's been a long day for me. But yeah, it's— so I guess it is late. I mean, goodness. Uh, it is 10:30. So I guess it's late.

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

I'm, I'm fine. It's been a long day, but I'm good. It's weird outside.

CRAIG

Like, it's weird outside.

KEVIN

Warm.

CRAIG

Oh, yeah, it's been—

KEVIN

and then cool and dry, like 20 degrees, like at 11 o'clock this afternoon. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's weird.

CRAIG

So, but make up your mind, Texas.

KEVIN

Exactly. You doing all right?

CRAIG

I'm doing good, man. Like, what today is— I mean, when the show comes out, it's going to be December 7th.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

So it is for, you know, for argument's sake, it's December 7th, right? And tomorrow I will be on my 3rd Christmas party.

KEVIN

Oh, already?

CRAIG

I am about Santa Claus'd out.

KEVIN

Gee whiz, who, who is inviting you to all these parties? I'm a very popular man, apparently. I mean, because I've gotten invited to zero.

CRAIG

Who wouldn't want this at their Christmas party?

KEVIN

Well, I haven't thrown a Christmas party.

CRAIG

It brings all the holly and jolly that you could want without the spiked eggnog, which, why would you be there? But then you add— oh, you add that in.

KEVIN

Well, you need that.

CRAIG

Exponentially gets better. Well, yeah, not just plain eggnog. No plain eggnog.

KEVIN

Well, who— I mean, really, I— so Eric, you remember Eric?

CRAIG

I do.

KEVIN

Uh, Eric likes eggnog.

CRAIG

Uh-huh.

KEVIN

And I think he's weird.

CRAIG

You don't like eggnog?

KEVIN

No, I don't like eggnog.

CRAIG

Which once again proves my theory that Kevin is a picky eater.

KEVIN

Okay, so I like the one thing that comes out, like, you know, one month of the year.

CRAIG

Okay, fine. Kevin hates all holiday-themed foods. Change my mind.

KEVIN

I got nothing to say about that.

CRAIG

He doesn't like turkey.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

He doesn't like pumpkin pie.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

He doesn't like eggnog.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

Telling you, he doesn't like baby Jesus.

KEVIN

Uh, but cranberry sauce is pretty good.

CRAIG

How can you like cranberry sauce but not like turkey? That's the only thing you eat cranberry sauce with.

KEVIN

That's the only thing that covers up the turkey. It's cranberry sauce.

CRAIG

You're the worst.

KEVIN

I don't know. I mean, surely there's other things I don't like.

CRAIG

You gotta be right. There's, there's, there ought to be at least somebody worse than you. But as far as I've seen up until now, The worst.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, there's other holiday foods that I do like.

CRAIG

I don't think so.

KEVIN

Yeah, I like stuffing.

CRAIG

That's—

KEVIN

I like, I like the dressing. I like, I like, uh—

CRAIG

What kind of dressing?

KEVIN

Uh, cornbread dressing is my favorite. Yeah, so I like that. Um, and I like ham. I know that's like, like weird, but I like ham.

CRAIG

I mean, it's off a pig. I mean, you're supposed to like it.

KEVIN

Yeah, pretty much the whole pig I like. I'm not gonna lie, if it's off the pig, I like it pretty much.

CRAIG

So the, the big 3, man, you're out.

KEVIN

Okay, I'm fine with that. I mean, you're not— you're— there's nothing about what you just said that made me go, oh, I suck. I'm kind of fine with all of it.

CRAIG

What?

KEVIN

So it is what it is, right?

CRAIG

Yeah, my wife just commented and said he probably eats stovetop.

KEVIN

No. Oh no, that's like— no, that's like eating Shake 'n Bake.

CRAIG

Oh, so now we're highfalutin, right?

KEVIN

Yeah, of course. Yeah, no, I mean, I'll eat a fried bird all day long.

CRAIG

Fried bird?

KEVIN

Yeah, the fried turkey.

CRAIG

I like that.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah, that's good stuff. Okay. But like most of those 12, I mean, especially the dishwasher one.

CRAIG

I'm gonna, I'm gonna start chronicling all the things that you say that you don't like.

KEVIN

Okay, do it.

CRAIG

I need to like make a—

KEVIN

Do it.

CRAIG

Well, we're getting comments about eggnog now. Yeah, we are.

KEVIN

Here's— I'm gonna put this one up.

CRAIG

What is this? That's my favorite.

KEVIN

I actually drink almond milk eggnog.

CRAIG

Vegan nog?

KEVIN

What? I mean, surely that's—

CRAIG

Why do you do that?

KEVIN

I mean, Look, it can't be worse than the real stuff.

CRAIG

Yes, it can, 'cause the real stuff's good.

KEVIN

I don't know. Just give me some chocolate milk. I mean, why?

CRAIG

Why, are you 4?

KEVIN

Yes, maybe, sometimes. Have you had Promised Land chocolate milk?

CRAIG

I—

KEVIN

Oh, oh, it'll change your life.

CRAIG

I doubt it.

KEVIN

It will.

CRAIG

It's milk with chocolate.

KEVIN

It's milk from a Jersey cow. There's something special about it.

CRAIG

The Promised Land milk.

KEVIN

I mean, if it's as much as it costs, it better be that good.

CRAIG

Do you like strawberry milk?

KEVIN

No, not really.

CRAIG

Okay, I'm all right with that.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, I will say this. Promised Land, at one point— this is a long time ago— they put out a, uh, peaches and cream milk.

CRAIG

That sounds weird.

KEVIN

It was until you ate it with a Krispy Kreme donut and it tasted glorious. It was a weird mixture, but it went well together.

CRAIG

I gotta tell everybody, I'm not a big Krispy Kreme guy.

KEVIN

Oh, I don't, I don't, I'm— look, if it's not hot, I don't want to eat it. And even then, it's not my favorite. It's not anywhere close to Shipley.

CRAIG

Well, like, but my issue is, is like, everyone's like, oh, Krispy Kreme's the best. And I'm like, look, man, you can buy it in any gas station.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I'm like, how good can it be?

KEVIN

Well, any— it— once it's about a minute and a half old, it's not good.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It's not. The hot ones, they're They're pretty good.

CRAIG

So my, my roommate from college actually opened a boutique donut shop up in Austin.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

Called Bougie's Donuts.

KEVIN

Ooh.

CRAIG

Yeah, and it's— they are, they're very bougie.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So although as a man I don't really feel comfortable using that word.

KEVIN

But you said it twice just now.

CRAIG

I did. Well, it's the name of his place. I get—

KEVIN

I mean, you know, what are you gonna do? So bougie.

CRAIG

It lives up to the name.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

How about that? I mean, I said it without saying it.

KEVIN

Yeah, you did. It lives up to its name. That's right. That's good. Speaking of names, uh-huh, we should plug our plugs.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, let's do that.

KEVIN

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KEVIN

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CRAIG

Actually doing your job.

KEVIN

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CRAIG

Not searching for customers.

KEVIN

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CRAIG

So let me get this straight. Rather than hiring a smarmy salesman, yes, I can have this.

KEVIN

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CRAIG

Absolutely.

KEVIN

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CRAIG

Cool.

KEVIN

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CRAIG

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CRAIG

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KEVIN

Also, we see you, Brandon. Yeah, I mean, I— he even put eyeballs on this.

CRAIG

Yeah, I know. I, I don't know, he's like He's like that guy on Twitter that just calls everybody Hitler. Yeah. Yeah.

KEVIN

No, you're right.

CRAIG

We can't be having that. No.

KEVIN

You know, especially, especially if you're just gonna be wrong. Okay.

CRAIG

Well, I don't know which part of— so like what was said is that Shipley's is overrated like Whataburger. I don't know which part of that— are you, are you taking issue with the whole statement?

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't know what's more untrue.

CRAIG

Uh huh.

KEVIN

I mean, more untrue that Waterburger is overrated or more untrue that Shipley is overrated. But you put them both together, and I feel like Brandon. Look, we're fine with you being here. We like you just fine.

CRAIG

Oh, Sarah. Yeah, Sarah. No, we see. We see you lighting it up, Sarah. Yeah. Oh, she has all the all the feels today.

KEVIN

Come on, bring it, bring it. She's like, stop talking about people that we don't want to talk about.

CRAIG

So, and okay, so like. Been friends with Sarah for a long time. She lives in Austin. She could actually go have a bougie donut.

KEVIN

Oh, well, she should.

CRAIG

I don't know if they're like— like, Austin's a big town. I don't know if it's on the same side of town. But if you haven't, let you know, go look it up.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, you've got a Saturday, right? Sure. Yeah, you got a Saturday. And so yeah, I mean, I—

CRAIG

but like, Shipley's is overrated like Whataburger compared to what? Because I swear to goodness, if you say In-N-Out Burger, that's—

KEVIN

Oh, that's okay. I don't even know. I don't even— you're right. What are you comparing it to?

CRAIG

Right?

KEVIN

I mean, we are legitimately comparing Shipley to Krispy Kreme, right?

CRAIG

Who hasn't sold out to convenience stores? No. However, I'm not saying I like Shipley's.

KEVIN

Oh, I do.

CRAIG

They're okay.

KEVIN

I mean, for chain restaurant donuts.

CRAIG

Their kolaches are crap.

KEVIN

Well, I do disagree with you there too.

CRAIG

They're terrible.

KEVIN

No, they're not bad. What do you like better? Kolache Factory?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Okay, what do you like better?

CRAIG

Anybody that uses something other than a hot dog.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Hot dogs are gross.

KEVIN

I don't disagree.

CRAIG

I don't want them in my kolache. Use something better. Okay, wrap it in a croissant. I mean, it's just—

KEVIN

Where are you getting it from?

CRAIG

Where am I getting from? Yeah, there's actually, there's actually one, Gladstone 45, that does that. And then you can also get them with— what's that smoked sausage?

KEVIN

Little Smokies?

CRAIG

No, those are gross too. Those are worse than hot dogs.

KEVIN

That's all like Chapel Hill brats.

CRAIG

Chapel Hill.

KEVIN

Oh, Chapel Hill.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

You put like a half piece of grilled Chapel Hill in a kolache with some cheese.

KEVIN

Where is this place? You don't know.

CRAIG

I just told you. Gladstone and 45.

KEVIN

Gladstone. Oh, okay. Is it in a convenience store?

CRAIG

This is in Conroe, y'all.

KEVIN

Is it in a convenience store?

CRAIG

Sarah's trying to tell us about something in Louisiana.

KEVIN

Can you send us one, please? Like, we're in Houston. We're closer than you are, obviously.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

But anyway, we're really far off not getting— I mean, we're 13 minutes, almost 14 minutes into this thing.

CRAIG

We're talking about donuts.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Not that it's not a worthy conversation or that I can have one, but it's probably why I want to talk about it. That's right. But let's get into it.

KEVIN

Let's do it.

CRAIG

So I don't think I can number these, but these are just the the, the top worst Christmas decorating mistakes that you can make.

KEVIN

Don't, don't do this. Okay?

CRAIG

She's spamming us with the Southern Maid now.

KEVIN

I know. We see you. We see you. You said it twice, Sarah.

CRAIG

Okay, so they— there is— so I'll tell you this, Sarah. I, I don't know if it's the same company, but there is a Southern Maid Donuts on 99 Over in the east side of Spring. Really? Yes.

KEVIN

Um, let's go. So, I mean, not now because I think this is our problem, y'all. It's, uh, 10:40 now, and, uh, that's PM, and we're a little feisty.

CRAIG

A little feisty. Yeah, because we don't have any donuts.

KEVIN

We don't have any donuts.

CRAIG

I'm gonna take a sip of my not bourbon.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's what that is. All right, so here's the worst. Okay, the worst mistakes, right, you can make for your Christmas to holiday decorations, which, you know, hopefully you've all gotten started on that now. Yeah, I will. I mean, if you're not already started on that, why, why start?

CRAIG

I mean, it's December 6th. Put something out. I mean, get the tree.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, yeah, get the— and I don't know, I mean, that's probably a debate, right? Like, when do you get your Christmas tree? I mean, we, we don't do live Christmas trees, so we put it up when we get home from Thanksgiving.

CRAIG

But okay. I think a lot of people have that rule. It's like the day after Thanksgiving, rather than wasting your time on Black Friday, right? You decorate for Christmas, right? Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, that's good.

CRAIG

I think that's an— I think that's a normal tradition.

KEVIN

Yeah, I'm good with it. So, all right. So, so the— we'll just go with the first one we got here.

CRAIG

Right?

KEVIN

Right. There's this, this felt need to absolutely cover every surface that you have, right, with a holiday decoration. Christmas, Christmas stuff everywhere.

CRAIG

Which I think our friend Mary Ann is like this.

KEVIN

Okay, we love—

CRAIG

I forget what episode she's from, but Mary Ann, look, we love you.

KEVIN

Yeah, you—

CRAIG

it's true. But she does.

KEVIN

I've seen a video. Yes, more than one of you in your house. And when we say every surface, y'all, we're talking about the ceilings, the walls, And every place you can step has things, lights. It's amazing.

CRAIG

Yeah, no, she does an incredible job.

KEVIN

I don't know how you do it. I really don't.

CRAIG

I can't do it.

KEVIN

No, I don't know how you have the time or the wherewithal to put all that up every year. Where do you store it? Where do you store it? I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

CRAIG

I don't have an attic.

KEVIN

I mean, like, well, I do, but I mean, I don't have— well, I mean, technically I could probably put it all up there, but I'd have to haul it all down, haul it back up.

CRAIG

I mean, it's just a—

KEVIN

that's a lot of stuff. Ron, I feel for you.

CRAIG

Simple can be beautiful.

KEVIN

Absolutely.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

In fact, we actually, at my house, um, we were taking stuff down this year, and I was like, hey babe, where's the rest of it?

CRAIG

All your anti-eggnog signs?

KEVIN

Yeah, well, we put those in a special place, but, uh, I was like, where's all the rest of it? And she said, don't you remember? I purged last year. And I was like, really? I did not remember that. And we did not take nearly as much stuff down as I thought we should. And our house looks wonderful.

CRAIG

Perfect.

KEVIN

It looks perfect. So there you go. You don't have to put as much stuff up there. But it looks great.

CRAIG

Put up what you enjoy.

KEVIN

Yeah, but don't feel like you've got to cover every single surface.

CRAIG

I mean, don't redecorate the whole house.

KEVIN

No. I mean, some of your house was great before you put something, you know, and let me tell— okay, I don't—

CRAIG

the parts that weren't great, go ahead and cover those up.

KEVIN

Yeah, exactly. Except I— let me say this real quick. One thing you shouldn't cover your house up with is an Elf on a Shelf.

CRAIG

I've never done that. Never been interested.

KEVIN

We haven't either.

CRAIG

Don't really even know what it is.

KEVIN

I, I know what it is. Yes.

CRAIG

Somewhere on a shelf. Well, people like to post about it on Facebook.

KEVIN

Um, other than that, look, I would redecorate my house like Marianne's all day long to not have to do Elf on a Shelf. So I think I need to do one of those like marked safe from Elf on the Shelf.

CRAIG

I need to do one of those.

KEVIN

So yeah, so okay, here's a good one. Uh, Sarah, thank you for the the positive comments here about rotating it. So if you have things you don't want to get rid of, just rotate, take some out some years, rotate some, some back in some years, and you've got it all.

CRAIG

Take it out of the rotation for a couple years, pull it back out, it'll look brand new.

KEVIN

That's what we do.

CRAIG

Where'd this come from?

KEVIN

That's what we do with our kids' toys. They think they got brand new toys every 6 or 8 months. You just forgot about them.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's what we do.

CRAIG

Yeah, you're much nicer. I just throw them away. Quit playing with it, it's out of here.

KEVIN

That's right, see you later.

CRAIG

Not dealing with that.

KEVIN

Read the next one.

CRAIG

All right, missing out on opportunities to turn decorating into traditions. I think, I think this is a big one.

KEVIN

Huge.

CRAIG

Yeah, because I mean, I think especially like as, as dads, yep, like, you know, like we're told to like put up the lights, we're told, you know, certain decorating things for Christmas are expected of us.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

At least in our— I think in our families.

KEVIN

Oh, definitely.

CRAIG

May not be true in other families, but—

KEVIN

But in ours.

CRAIG

Yeah. Like, do, do these things. And I think a lot of times we get in this mindset of, I just need to get it done and get it out of the way.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Rather than taking the time to involve the kiddos, make sure that we're spending time together as a family with wife and kids and, and just, you know, turning it into something that's actually memorable so that they'll wanna do it with their families later on.

KEVIN

Yeah, because here's, here's the reality of it. You get to do this about 2, maybe 3 days a year, or you're decorating, and your kids— trust me, your kids want to do this, right? They're excited about it. They're looking forward to it. They want to put the ornaments on the tree. I'll tell you this. So we were decorating the tree, and, um, my wife looks at me and she goes, I just gotta I just gotta walk away and be okay with it. I just gotta— I just gotta be okay with it. I'm like, what? She goes, this right here, this right here. And I was like, oh. She goes, yeah, our daughter decided to put all of her ornaments in this one spot right

KEVIN

here. I said, yes, but it makes her happy.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And you know what? She's 9.

CRAIG

Who cares?

KEVIN

Who cares? She had a lot of fun. She's proud of it.

CRAIG

Let her be proud of it. Yeah.

KEVIN

Right?

CRAIG

You should tell your wife. I mean, like, what, you think Santa's gonna give you less because the tree wasn't decorated?

KEVIN

Well, just so we know, that's not true because we keep finding presents that we forgot we bought back in September or August.

CRAIG

She's like, we got to take some of these back.

KEVIN

I'm like, we don't have the receipt anymore, so we can't take it back.

CRAIG

Missed the 30-day window, babe.

KEVIN

That's right. Sorry. Did you see that Amazon is, um, since like a month ago They were doing, uh, returns through like January 30th.

CRAIG

From?

KEVIN

From Amazon. So like, all the way back to January? No, from like, no, the beginning of November all the way through like the end of January.

CRAIG

Oh, they'll do returns. Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah. That's kind of cool. I know. Yep. Now you know.

CRAIG

I do.

KEVIN

All right. The next one is, uh, you forgot to grab some decor from your yard. Yeah, I mean, like, there's stuff out there like pine cones.

CRAIG

Pine cones are good.

KEVIN

And like fur.

CRAIG

Fur?

KEVIN

Yeah, we don't have fur here. Not like animal fur. Check out that squirrel! Hey babe, check out that squirrel over there! Pick that thing up, man! Put that on the mantle! We don't have a surface covered. Not that—

CRAIG

okay, like a A tree! Let's make a Christmas quilt.

KEVIN

Oh, it'll be a Festivus. For the rest of us.

CRAIG

Not for him.

KEVIN

Not for him.

CRAIG

But for the rest of us that are still alive.

KEVIN

Oh my gosh.

CRAIG

No, like, that would be— that would be an interesting tradition to get going.

KEVIN

It would.

CRAIG

It's time for the Christmas squirreling.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. That's also probably a food that I would not enjoy. Just saying. Just saying.

CRAIG

I gotta tell you something funny. The other night we were, we were actually out hanging up Christmas lights and my wife was helping me with something. Yeah, we were carrying something down the walkway and I just saw something fly over and I was like, oh, I was like, look, babe, it's a bat. And she's like, what?

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And I was like, no, the bat, it's flying around. And it dive-bombed her like twice.

KEVIN

What? And she—

CRAIG

whatever we were doing, she just dropped it and she goes, nope, nope, nope. Walked inside. I'm like, babe, it's fine.

KEVIN

Well, no, it's not.

CRAIG

It's not gonna do anything to you.

KEVIN

Well, that's yet to be seen. We'll see. I do want to go back for a minute because Sarah put another piece of information here that was really good. She said that she, uh, paid attention this year and the kids had definite ideas of what was important to them and what they should have out as to what they were decorating. So they each had different things that they thought were tradition as important, right? So they made sure to decorate and do those things because the, the kids found it important.

CRAIG

Well, and like, you know, going back to that, I mean, you really only have like 10 Christmases. where your kids are gonna have any memory of what you did as a family. And then, you know, after, you know, and that really gets them to be like maybe 15. Sure. And then after that, like, they're probably going to do the teenager thing and act like they don't want to participate, but they can get really offended with some of those things aren't done.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

You know, it's like, we always do this. Exactly. Yeah.

KEVIN

But that, and that's really the thing they're looking forward to. And honestly, I'll just tell you this. I've worked with teenagers for a lot of years now, right? Um, the moments they, they seem disengaged doesn't mean that they are. So just because they seem disengaged in the, the traditions that you're doing, I promise you that if you don't do them, it will, it will be affecting to them.

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

So start those traditions early, and then whenever they become, you know, 16, 17, they'll they'll enjoy that.

CRAIG

Yeah. You know, I think we covered decor from the yard. I mean, there's, there's things out there, you can get them and decorate them if you're crafty enough.

KEVIN

Or the street.

CRAIG

But you know, or if you're a trapper.

KEVIN

A trapper keeper.

CRAIG

All right, next one. You always default to red and green.

KEVIN

I mean, there's really other colors in the rainbow. Sure. But, but let's be honest. Like, what's the other one? White?

CRAIG

White? You can— I think, I think you could. I see a lot of people decorate with blue. And typically it's blue and white.

KEVIN

Yeah, so that's like, yeah, definitely for like, um, that snow color, like the snowflakes, they'll do blue and white. And plus, like, I think blue and white looks really good on like snowmen. You know, I love decorating with snowmen.

CRAIG

I think purple is kind of a good Christmas color.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's kind of a Jesus-y—

KEVIN

well, that's for sure—

CRAIG

color.

KEVIN

I'm okay with that.

CRAIG

It's in the Bible, right?

KEVIN

Well, yeah. A lot of times.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah, there were certain people that, you know, that was their thing. Purple. Do you remember her name?

CRAIG

Lydia?

KEVIN

Oh, it was! Haha! We have a winner! Ding ding ding!

CRAIG

All that education for naught.

KEVIN

There you go. There you go. Uh, oh, I like this. Uh, vintage Christmases are in. Lots of pink and blue for the past few years. Pink and blue? Pink and blue. Isn't that the color of the dress?

CRAIG

I think that's what, like, well, I think eventually, like, the plastic Santa kind of fades into a pink.

KEVIN

That's why it's vintage.

CRAIG

Yeah. He was once red.

KEVIN

It's vintage just because— that's good. That's good. It's all the UV light it was getting.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

That's right. All right. Now the next one here—

CRAIG

Mother Nature hates Santa. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah, she really does. All right. Well, okay, so we covered that one. All right. The next one is that you own 10 lawn inflatables. Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, it's just lazy Christmasing.

KEVIN

That's because you don't have 20? Well, what's the— I'm curious.

CRAIG

Well, I think it's just too many.

KEVIN

Oh, 10's too many.

CRAIG

10's too many.

KEVIN

Okay, so you need like one, maybe two.

CRAIG

But like, for me, I don't like them at all.

KEVIN

Yeah, I think it really— I agree with you.

CRAIG

So I'm not saying you shouldn't have one. I'm just saying I don't particularly enjoy them.

KEVIN

Okay. So we were actually given one that was a snow globe once. It was massive. It was pretty cool.

CRAIG

Yeah, I've seen those. Those are actually pretty cool. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, it worked for about 3 hours. And then it didn't work anymore. So it was, it was a better idea than it was executed. But I'll say this. So there was a place when we lived in Arkansas, in Sherwood, Arkansas, and people that are from that area, they know exactly what— as soon as I say it, um, I think you can see it from about 95 miles away from the air. Um, this guy had over— I mean, he— regular-sized lot. I mean, this is not any type— this is residential, regular size, you know, I don't know, like 8,000 square foot lot, right?

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

He had over 100 inflatables in his yard. Oh my gosh. He had in his garage a, um, a Christmas village that probably had 300 pieces, like just like the big pieces. I'm not talking about little figurines. He had stuff hanging from the, from the trees. He had nutcrackers everywhere. I mean, this guy, any and every night from Thanksgiving until Christmas, sat in his driveway in a Santa suit and, and handed out candy canes. And people would line up in their cars to come by this place to see how gaudy it was. You can get out and like walk around, but you couldn't really walk anywhere because there was everywhere.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, uh, and like I asked the guy, I'm like, do you have like a generator running this stuff? And he was like, no, by this time I've, I've pretty much converted everything over to LED. But yeah, I used to break, you know, bust some breakers here and there and had to run a couple of generators and But oh, those LED lights, man, they're fantastic. Yeah, this guy, man, I'm telling you, man, it was, it was insane. I've got a picture somewhere, but you can't see anything. It's just a light. Good for him.

CRAIG

It's crazy. I'll never do it.

KEVIN

But well, no, it was insane. It was nuts. But 10 lawn inflatables is too many.

CRAIG

Plus, I'm not going to give kids candy canes unless I want them to hate me.

KEVIN

Um, candy canes are the worst.

CRAIG

I mean, like, I enjoy the look of them.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

Just not a peppermint guy.

KEVIN

I— look, I— this is something food-wise you and I definitely agree on. So I do not like peppermint all that much.

CRAIG

Well, they were like, you know, if I've got an upset tummy, it's, it's like, I don't mind like the—

KEVIN

Mm, yeah, okay.

CRAIG

Like a, like a little tiny, like the little round ones.

KEVIN

Oh, that you can chew? That are like, uh—

CRAIG

No, not like the chalky ones, just the ones you suck on.

KEVIN

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

But like, I don't It's, for me, it's just awkward to like even eat a candy cane.

KEVIN

Yeah. Yeah. Which indie— I mean, the only—

CRAIG

Doesn't matter because either way it's going to turn into a stabby stick.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Unless you're gonna impale someone with it. I don't really know. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

CRAIG

And I guess if you're at a Christmas party, you get kidnapped, it's a good way to like impale your assailant.

KEVIN

Yeah. So, well, by the way, um, our friend Sarah, she says she has 7 lawn inflatable dinosaurs.

CRAIG

So she's, she's under the threshold.

KEVIN

I was gonna say, you're good. Yeah, you're good. You're absolutely good. So no, no issues there whatsoever.

CRAIG

So apparently I'm getting one.

KEVIN

Yeah, I was gonna say she's giving you one too. Congratulations.

CRAIG

If it's a snow globe, I'll take it.

KEVIN

Yeah, those, those— I'm telling you what, those snow globes, whenever they work, they're, they're pretty stinking.

CRAIG

Although I think it would be funny if you had like an inflatable Jesus.

KEVIN

Oh. Like that, like the Buddy Jesus. You remember Buddy Jesus? Yeah, yeah, Buddy Jesus.

CRAIG

All right, next one. You keep your Christmas cards in a box. Oh, so, and I've actually seen people do this, and my mom actually does this. She uses old Christmas cards as decorations for Christmas.

KEVIN

Yes. And they're beautiful. They are.

CRAIG

And you like, you know, she pulls them out and, you know, looks at who sent her one last year and who didn't send her one this year, and then she makes a list and You know, but, you know, it, but they can be beautiful decorations.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. I mean, and we had like a, like a, a, what is it? A doorframe that we would put 'em around at our house growing up. Yeah. And they're, I mean, it's something to remember.

CRAIG

You staple 'em to the wall? What do you do?

KEVIN

No, like, I, I don't know. Tape, I guess. I don't know. Double, probably like, you know, curl the tape up in a little circle and—

CRAIG

Oh, okay. See what you're saying.

KEVIN

I guess.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. It's much more—

CRAIG

I don't know, much less destructive than a staple.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

Or like a pushpin.

KEVIN

No, I think that's what it was. But yeah, don't, don't keep them in a box. Come on. Yeah, if you're gonna save them, yeah, show them off.

CRAIG

Absolutely.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I wish I had saved a lot more Christmas cards. I, you know, I'm not good at that kind of stuff.

KEVIN

Well, and now they're not to say that I don't like you. I'm just not I don't like you enough to keep them.

CRAIG

Wait, it has nothing to do with that.

KEVIN

Well, you're not a hoarder, uh, but I'll say this. Now I like Christmas cards so much better because a lot of times they're doing like these Shutterfly— yes, you know, pictures.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

And those are great because you get to see, you know, the family through the years and, you know, figure out how long it takes Aunt Susie to get gray.

CRAIG

You know, you can set up a timeline.

KEVIN

Yeah, exactly. And now you know.

CRAIG

Whoo, you was fat that year. Thanksgiving didn't work well for you. And then you fixed it.

KEVIN

And then you fixed it. Congratulations.

CRAIG

Way to be.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

All right. What's next?

KEVIN

All right, number 8. We're not numbering these.

CRAIG

We're not numbering these.

KEVIN

Number something else.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

You don't measure your ceiling before you go tree shopping.

CRAIG

It's an important step.

KEVIN

I mean, look, most ceilings are about 8 feet tall. Most of them, right? So if you— now, if you got a vaulted ceiling, whatever, right?

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

But you go into Hobby Lobby or wherever it is you buy your Christmas tree, that's for your artificial ones. You can figure out how tall it is, right? But if you go to this Christmas tree farm and you're thinking, oh, that one's beautiful, that's the most beautiful one I've ever seen, and you Griswold that thing onto your Your car, you travel home with it, you put that thing inside, and then you got this little thing going on, right?

CRAIG

The bend over.

KEVIN

The bend over.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And you're like, I can't even put the star up there. It's so—

CRAIG

right, that's one of my favorite Office episodes when they buy the tree that's too tall and they're in there with the paper cutter trying to—

KEVIN

Yeah, it's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, just measure. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you've got a standard ceiling, it's probably 8 feet. But if you've got a vaulted ceiling, then measure it. Yeah.

CRAIG

Are you, are you artificial? Or you guys go for the real deal?

KEVIN

Artificial. Yeah. But here's the reason though. My wife's allergic to that stuff. So she can't— we literally would not be able to be in the same room with a Christmas tree. Okay, if we brought a real one in. So it's just an allergy problem for us. So no, we're artificial. But so this actually, I'll come back and ask you the question too.

CRAIG

But artificial, I mean, I don't want to—

KEVIN

that was easy.

CRAIG

That was easy.

KEVIN

So I'm, I'm, I love the tree that we have. A friend of ours gave it to us. It's, it's 10 feet tall. So it's a, it's, it's beautiful. All the— it's kind of, you have to put all the branches in and fluff all every single branch, you know, individually. That's a good trick. and there's no light. It's not pre-lit.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

It'd be hard to pre-light one you have to put all the branches in, so we have to string it. We have like, I don't know, 2,500, you know, lights on that thing.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

There's a bunch. Um, I'm kind of over it.

CRAIG

Kind of over it.

KEVIN

You want a smaller tree? No, I don't want a smaller tree because I love the size of the tree.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

I just want a nice artificial beautiful big tree.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Balsam Hill is where I'm gonna get it from.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

balsamhill.com. Beautiful trees. They are not cheap.

CRAIG

Hmm.

KEVIN

But they got some on sale right now.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Probably not gonna buy one right now, but they're beautiful.

CRAIG

You—

KEVIN

if you want probably the most beautiful Christmas artificial Christmas tree you've ever seen, Balsam Hill.

CRAIG

Like ballparking, what are we looking at?

KEVIN

Uh, like any, any, you know, anywhere from $800 to $1,200. Probably.

CRAIG

That's up there.

KEVIN

They're up there.

CRAIG

Yeah. I mean, ours is pre-lit.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which is one of the reasons I love it.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I take it out of the box. I put it— I mean, it's got 3 levels and it's just good to go.

KEVIN

Does it— is it got the kind of like the limbs fall down?

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah. We kind of have to like, you know, fluff them, make them look like—

KEVIN

Yeah. We have one of those and we love it.

CRAIG

Yeah. Sarah has the same one I do.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, we love it. It's just it's not that big. It's one of the like 6.5-foot ones, and it's a like a, like a skinny one. Not super skinny, but it's not like the, the normal size one. And I mean, it was fine for what we needed it for at the time, but man, we got this big one. It's awesome.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, really, that is a big tree. But I mean, like, our issue would be like, I think our downstairs ceilings are like 7.5 feet.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And then, but like our upstairs ceiling, I mean, like, it's like 20 feet.

KEVIN

So.

CRAIG

Sure.

KEVIN

Yeah. We got that big vaulted ceiling in our, in our living room. So.

CRAIG

Hmm. Yeah.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

We gotta, we gotta get through these.

KEVIN

Yep. Here we go.

CRAIG

All right. Don't forget about the smell.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

You know, one, bathe. But 2, well, there are Christmas smells.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That help usher in the season.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And for— that's different smells for different people.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, look, here's the thing. Y'all all know, if you don't, you should. Craig and I are big Disney fans. If you don't know this about Disney, Disney pipes in smells everywhere.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

Everywhere. Like their lobbies of their hotels, they pipe in smells. Their attractions, they pipe in smells. Their gift shops, they pipe in smells. Main Street, they pipe smells in, right? Like there's smells that they put into everything.

CRAIG

They're all different smells. We should also say.

KEVIN

They are.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. They're all different. And it's, uh, it's one of those things that they do it for mood, right? It sets a mood, it sets a tone for what— where you're at, right? And it's the same thing, like light some candles, go get to— go to Bath and Body Works and get one of those little plug-in-the-wall things. I mean, do something.

CRAIG

I mean, what I'm trying to think of, like, what's a— I mean, I guess cinnamon is kind of a— yeah, Christmasy smell.

KEVIN

Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, I think anything like spice you know, whatever that spice smell is. Not like pumpkin spice, but like, because nobody likes that. Um, at least nobody in this room. But, but like, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, like, it's maybe cinnamon spice, I don't know.

CRAIG

But like the, uh, cider, like, yes, like, well, like, or mulled wine.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, those, those kinds of smells. Yeah. And like, you know, but like also if you just make those things, you get the benefit of the drink Sure. As well as the scent.

KEVIN

That's right. And well, I think even an evergreen smell might be interesting.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

You know, fire smell.

CRAIG

I mean, not in your house. It would like, you know, apparently ignite an allergic reaction potentially.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah. That's why you pipe in the smell.

CRAIG

I don't know, is it the smell or is it the actual thing?

KEVIN

No, it's the actual thing.

CRAIG

Like, what is it on the thing though? Is it like the pollen?

KEVIN

I don't know. What? I wouldn't think it's giving off that much pollen.

CRAIG

I just mean, I've always wondered. I mean, because like You know, for me, it's like, okay, how do allergies work? I mean, like, because in order to make the smell, in order— for me, it's like, okay, so I would use the actual thing to make the smell.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

You know what I mean?

KEVIN

Yeah. Uh-huh.

CRAIG

So I'm like, what is it that's actually, like, causing—

KEVIN

Yeah. That's, that's why Bath and Body Works came into existence.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

So you didn't have to use the actual thing.

CRAIG

Artificial scents.

KEVIN

Artificial scents. Got it. Alright. The next one's, don't What is it? You don't think about swapping out family photos, right? So change out the family photos.

CRAIG

Get a, get a Christmasy one in there.

KEVIN

Absolutely.

CRAIG

I mean, look, you can green screen some snow in.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's not that difficult, right? I mean, look, most people at some point take a picture, whether it's a pajama picture, you know, Christmas Eve or whatever it is, right? Take a picture the year before and put it into the frame. Or just, you know, one of the things we do is we've got a, like a little thing that hangs on the wall. We just put paper clips on it. And like, you know, paper clips, not paper clips, clothespins, clothespins. That's what they are.

CRAIG

And like, like the wooden ones.

KEVIN

Yeah, like the wooden clothespins. Okay, just hang up pictures that way. Okay, so, and I would even think like, like, if you've got one of those, one of those picture things, it's a digital, digital picture frame.

CRAIG

Oh, yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. Put some of those on there.

CRAIG

I don't see as many of those as I used to.

KEVIN

No, they've gotten actually a lot better. Because like now they make them where like anybody can upload to them. So like my, my mother-in-law has one and we upload pictures to it from time to time. And she's like, she's at home and all of a sudden she's like, oh, there's a new picture of our grandkids.

CRAIG

Well, yeah, I know like a lot of smart TVs do this now where you can connect them to like your Amazon photo collection or whatever, however it— your Google Drive, you know, however it works. Um, but they also have like, like Samsung has like the Frame.

KEVIN

Have you seen that? Yes, that's a cool TV.

CRAIG

You can actually make it to where it's like a picture that's just there whenever it's like in rest mode.

KEVIN

Yeah, that's super cool. That's a really cool TV. Yeah, I mean, it looks like a picture frame. It's way overpriced, but it's a cool TV. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

All right, so we're gonna have a couple bonus ones, but this is really kind of the real last one. Okay, um, don't forget to prep for next year as you take everything down. Okay, have a plan.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

for as you're taking things down that's going to make it easier for you to get everything back out next year.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

This takes a little bit of forethought, maybe a little bit of an investment in like some storage things that make it, you know, particularly like the Christmas lights.

KEVIN

Oh, like having those little spools that you wrap them up in, like for me, whenever I'm, you know, don't have the pre-lit, like that makes it so much easier.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I mean, they're never tangled, you know. And they even make like little— we've got little cylinder— I can't say that— cylinder— cylindrical, um, bags that those things go in and you just carry them. Yeah, put like 4 of them in a, in a bag and carry them up.

CRAIG

Nice.

KEVIN

Yeah, we have some of the, some of the reels that you wrap the lights around because we have a ton of lights that we put on the fence. Yes.

CRAIG

Um, which I was fighting with those tonight before we got started.

KEVIN

Yep. So way it goes.

CRAIG

But anyway, so here's, here's some, here's some bonus.

KEVIN

Okay. I haven't, I haven't seen these.

CRAIG

Yeah, they haven't been pre-approved or screened, so they're probably inappropriate. So number 1. Okay. If you're going to have a manger scene in your yard.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Secure the baby Jesus. Let me just tell you guys, I can't tell you the number of baby Jesuses I've stolen in my day.

KEVIN

I believe that to be true.

CRAIG

If you don't secure the baby Jesus, you're asking for trouble.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and then you end up with like a mishmash of different plastic wise men and camels, and it just gets—

KEVIN

Did you— okay, so did you replace the baby Jesus with like a Yoda or anything?

CRAIG

Sometimes. Okay. I think one time I did it with like a Tasmanian devil.

KEVIN

Nice. So yes, baby Taz.

CRAIG

And it wasn't out of irreverence to Jesus. Well, no, it was their fault for not securing it down.

KEVIN

It was their fault.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So number 2 on the bonus. If you're going to have reindeer in the yard, yes, you should just expect that when you wake up in the morning, one's going to be on top of the other. They're going to They're gonna be in compromising situations. There's baby deers every day. Yes.

KEVIN

I mean, there's, there's baby deers being made. Yep.

CRAIG

Yeah. In every—

KEVIN

It's funny 'cause, uh, Sarah just said secure the reindeer because they, they frolic in the middle of the night.

CRAIG

'Cause if they don't steal the baby Jesus, they'll make the reindeer do inappropriate things in front of him.

KEVIN

Yes. And nobody needs that.

CRAIG

It's just a baby. You don't need to see that. It's just a baby Jesus.

KEVIN

He did.

CRAIG

He did. How more innocent can you get? Right?

KEVIN

Well, not innocent anymore. I've seen too much. I've seen too much.

CRAIG

Seen a lot of thievery and deer fornicating.

KEVIN

Oh, man, I'm with you on that. Those— I mean, solid, solid bonuses right there.

CRAIG

Yeah, absolutely.

KEVIN

I mean, look, if— I mean, it's the same thing with these, with these blowups. Like, nobody's gonna steal those, right? Because nobody wants them to begin with, right? So they're not going to steal the blowups, but these other things, that's important. I will tell you, my brother, um, they just did a, a, uh, Charlie Brown Peanuts scene in their, in their yard. So they got like all the Peanuts characters out there. It looks really good.

CRAIG

Nice.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's kind of unique.

CRAIG

There are a few neighborhoods around here that do like themed streets.

KEVIN

Yeah, so they've got one, I mean, uh, there's the candy cane one. Right? They— that like every house has a candy cane, like a big wrapped candy cane. And then there's like the, the Grinch. You've seen that one, right?

CRAIG

Oh yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

We're like— you go through and it's all the, you know, the Whoville.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

And, uh, that one's really cool. You, you turn a radio station and you hear the Grinch music and stuff, you know, the Whoville stuff, the whole story actually. And then a lot of times there's people out like giving out like hot cocoa and stuff. Maybe post-COVID that doesn't happen as much.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like, for some of these places, I mean, like, it— there's like a waiting line to get in the neighborhood. And if you live there—

KEVIN

Oh, you would hate that. I would hate it.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, you either can just like buy into it and enjoy it and, you know, make a dollar a hot cocoa, or—

KEVIN

Well, like, some of these neighborhoods, don't they like tell you whenever you move into this neighborhood, like—

CRAIG

The ones that do it.

KEVIN

Just so you know, you're expected. It's not, it's not just like Beware, you may have a lot of traffic. It's like, beware, you're not welcome.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

If you don't— like, they give you— like, the decorations get passed on.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

From like when it's part of the sale of the house.

CRAIG

You can also see it where like the one guy is, he's just, he's just done and he's like, what's the bare minimum I have to do?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And he's right. He's got like the one thing on the yard that's on theme.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So yeah. And he's like, I'm doing it.

KEVIN

I'm doing it.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

But those, those are really cool. Yeah, I, I, I love it whenever neighborhoods kind of get together. Like, we, we've even done, uh, been around some that like put the, uh, they line the curb with the— what do they call it? The little bags with lights in them? Little paper sacks?

CRAIG

I would go with bags with lights in them.

KEVIN

Bags with lights in them. They look cool.

CRAIG

I think it's a technical term.

KEVIN

Well, I don't know what they call them. I remember seeing in Arkansas.

CRAIG

Not really up on my Christmas Decor vernacular.

KEVIN

Well, I'm apparently not either whenever it's 11:11 at night.

CRAIG

So I told you, I'm— I got my 3rd Christmas party tomorrow.

KEVIN

I'm—

CRAIG

I think I'm— I think I'm good.

KEVIN

You're good. You're done. So, well, that's not enough because we're having another one at your house in a couple of weeks that you just found out about tonight.

CRAIG

No. So like, I have— well, so there's— I've got the one tomorrow. I've got one on the 12th here. And then whatever one you're throwing here.

KEVIN

On the 13th.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I'm bringing p— I'm bringing people over to your house.

CRAIG

Bring it.

KEVIN

So we're having a Christmas party at your house on my behalf. You're welcome.

CRAIG

I'll have fake reindeer in the yard.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. If you don't now, we're gonna have, we're gonna have issues. I'm gonna be frustrated. So, all right, man. Uh, anything else? Did we miss any of them?

CRAIG

Not unless you want to hear about the weird dinosaur thing I found out today.

KEVIN

Oh, I definitely want to hear about it.

CRAIG

You want to hear it?

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Okay. So I was listening, I was listening to an interview with the guy. So you remember Jurassic Park?

KEVIN

Oh yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah. Okay. So the main character, like the paleontologist.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

I heard an interview.

KEVIN

Jeff Goldblum, right?

CRAIG

No. Um, Jeff Goldblum was the, uh, mathematician.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I know who you're talking about. Um, continue.

CRAIG

Anyway, the guy who was the consultant for the movie, whose character that was based off of, right? So he's famous paleontologist. And he has, he has put out several books now about dinosaurs. And he's saying like, look, they all had feathers.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

And were like multicolored, like parrots.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Yes. He said they have now found them. Like you can find the plumage. They found it like the feather indentation on their skin.

KEVIN

And he's—

CRAIG

and he was like, what? And the guy interviewing was like, are you talking about like T-Rex? He goes, oh yeah, T-Rex had feathers.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

And I'm like, shut your mouth. He had like a picture of him and it looks— it's just like, it's a giant turkey.

KEVIN

He probably also thinks that Pluto isn't a planet.

CRAIG

Well, yeah.

KEVIN

So I mean, we can't trust this guy.

CRAIG

But like, not just like, but like the predators, man. Like, And like, and this guy was like, okay, hang on. Like every dinosaur I've ever heard about from when I was a kid, and obviously this guy's around our age, they're like, they're either army green or like some, you know, weird gray. Gray. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, nope, they're like purple and red and blue and white and they all have feathers. And yep.

KEVIN

I, I, I'm speechless. It's— that's hard to do.

CRAIG

But go buy it. Go buy a newer dinosaur book for your kid. Okay, and see what it has.

KEVIN

So what about like The Land Before Time, man? Crap, it's just all wrong.

CRAIG

Yep, all lies. But Petrie, I'm telling you, man, like a better working definition is science is the history of being wrong. That's all it is.

KEVIN

That's good. That's good. Man, I— well, thanks a lot for that.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

You just ruined it. You just ruined everything.

CRAIG

Maybe I made it better for somebody. I don't know. Maybe they were just like, I don't like dinosaurs because they're ugly and gray and they look like they're from Cuba.

KEVIN

I mean, Sarah says her childhood is a lie. I'm telling you, my adulthood is a lie. My whole life is a lie. I can't even tell my kids. I can't look my kids straight in the face and say that's a dinosaur.

CRAIG

They still had teeth. Well, apparently— Here's the other creepy thing that he said.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Is it was— this was on a hunting show I was listening to. And he was, he was asking him, he's like, okay, so I get, I get dropped here off the coast. I go up to a high peak in a day. How many T-Rex do I see? And he goes, well, think about it like this. If you were to go to Africa, you know, in certain parts of Africa, how many hyena would you see?

KEVIN

Uh-uh. There are— because, because those things are everywhere.

CRAIG

Exactly. Uh, and I was like, that's crazy.

KEVIN

That's nuts. Like, I feel that way, like the velociraptors are everywhere. I feel like those things like multiply like rabbits or something.

CRAIG

Okay, so we're on a weird dinosaur tangent here at the end of a Christmas show, which is fine. People put up dinosaur decorations for Christmas. It's fine. It's— yeah, it's fine.

KEVIN

Yeah. Yeah.

CRAIG

So the velociraptors, uh huh. They talked about this for a long because obviously that was a big part of that movie.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

He said they're about twenty inches tall.

KEVIN

Twenty.

CRAIG

Did you say twenty? I did. And they had feathers.

KEVIN

This is like a little, and he was like a little turkey.

CRAIG

He was like, why? Why were they? And he goes, well, because Spielberg said they weren't scary enough. They needed them bigger because like in the movie, they're like 7 feet tall.

KEVIN

Yeah, they're, they're, they're bigger than a human. Yep. They're barely bigger than my dog.

CRAIG

It's all, it's all a lie.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

It's all about the show.

KEVIN

Look, I'll tell you this. I didn't like Jurassic World.

CRAIG

Well, even think about like the most recent Jurassic Park movie.

KEVIN

Yeah, Jurassic World.

CRAIG

Who was the famous velociraptor in there? It was— do you remember?

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Blue. Because he was, uh, he was blue.

KEVIN

He was blue.

CRAIG

Yep. And they were kind of getting that in there.

KEVIN

Uh-huh.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Well, I did not like that one. Jurassic World. What?

CRAIG

Okay, because there's been 2 of them.

KEVIN

Well, there was like, there was Jurassic Park, and then there was Jurassic—

CRAIG

there was 3 Jurassic Parks.

KEVIN

Yeah, the last one was Jurassic World, wasn't it?

CRAIG

Jurassic World was the 4th one. Oh, and then there was a 5th one.

KEVIN

Oh my God, I, I've got— y'all, I've got work to do.

CRAIG

Did you not like— you didn't like the Chris Pratt one? Is that the one you didn't like?

KEVIN

No, it was Jurassic World. I don't remember the— was— yeah, no, that had Chris. Yo, that's the one I didn't like.

CRAIG

You didn't like that one?

KEVIN

No, it was very cheesy. Very cheesy.

CRAIG

I got news for you, they're all cheesy.

KEVIN

No. Okay, the, the first one had incredible music.

CRAIG

You only liked the first one because it had Newman in it.

KEVIN

Well, that's true.

CRAIG

And Samuel L. Jackson.

KEVIN

Oh my gosh.

CRAIG

Who both died.

KEVIN

Hey, I will tell you this.

CRAIG

Spoiler alert.

KEVIN

Have you played the— what? Why did you have to tell everybody? Come on, man.

CRAIG

I already told them they had feathers. I'm ruining everyone right now. You did.

KEVIN

Have you—

CRAIG

you played, um, were you with us when we played the Jurassic Park board game?

KEVIN

Board game?

CRAIG

No, you told me about it.

KEVIN

Oh my gosh, you, you would really like it. It's fun. It's legitimately a very, very good board game.

CRAIG

And I've gotten conflicting reports.

KEVIN

Well, who have told you?

CRAIG

I'm not naming names. Come on, this isn't the '50s.

KEVIN

Whatever. You just said that dinosaurs have feathers. I think you're willing to say anything. Google it.

CRAIG

Google it.

KEVIN

And I don't know if I will. Here's what I know. We need to end this. Thank you guys for, uh, listening to tonight's show. It's actually today's show. It's whatever day you want to listen to it. December 7th apparently is the day. Uh, but thanks for downloading the episode. We hope you enjoyed it. It's been a little bit crazy, uh, but we'll be back next week for more. Until then, we'll see you next time. See ya!

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