This is episode number 351 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Haggett, and here with me is Craig Williams.
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We are so glad that you could join us for another episode here in The Homeowner Show studios. How you doing, Kev?
Well, I'm pretty good. I almost, you know, screwed that entire like intro up because I'm looking at the giant roach back there on the wall.
It doesn't look great for the, for the homeowner show over here.
One second, y'all. We, we got a guy on the, on the hot on the trail. Oh yeah, that guy didn't make it.
Ouch. He's gonna wish he didn't. Well, he, he He's gone.
So that's, uh, I was sitting over here like trying to do the intro and I look over there and I see this, this roach and I'm like, is he gonna leave or is he sneaking up on me? Yeah. Anyway, I think—
So I'm good. How are you, man?
I'm better now. I got a little aggression out.
Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. Well, I, I don't know. Maybe people have been missing us, but Like, I lost my voice.
Had a little laryngitis going on.
Like, like gone, gone. Like, it wasn't just like, oh, I can't really talk very well. It's like I had no voice.
Yeah. And, uh, really regretting those missed American Sign Language lessons.
Well, yeah, but I had the number of people that were like, this is your gift to us, isn't it? And I'm like, you jerk.
No. I'm like, Like, I, I, I can't even raise my voice at you. All I could do is raise a finger.
That's right. I was like, you had one move.
So anyway, but yeah, I can, I can talk again. It's not, it's not 100%. There's still moments where I'm like, eh, it's not quite there yet.
Well, we'll, we'll check the comments to see if people are rejoicing.
They probably are. They probably are. Yeah. How you doing?
I'm good, man. Um, we got some, we got some fun stuff going on. Um, but I really wanted to talk about, uh, Houston Rodeo. One, it is, it is one of my favorite times of year because, uh, everyone looks a little bit more like me. That's true. For a little while.
Um, so I think everyone looks a little more normal and like they should.
Um, maybe not all of them. Um, but I, so I love rodeo season. I hate going to the rodeo.
Uh, it's, It sucks to get there.
Oh, it's terrible. Well, from here it's a long way and you have to go through the heart of downtown to get there.
So, and I know you can take the buses and all that kind of stuff. I don't want to 'cause I don't have to.
So I'll acknowledge my privilege.
But I still don't wanna go.
And like, there's even musicians that I like and enjoy. I think they sound terrible there.
Well, they don't. It's, it really is interesting to me as much of headliners that they have. Mm-hmm. I mean, some big, big names. Killers. Yeah. That the sound isn't better.
Than it is. And, and I, I get that you're in an NFL arena, arena in there, but like, couldn't they do something? Yeah.
But I think, I think we talked about this, like, when we, but this, I think we talked about this when we talked about the Super Bowl halftime show.
That, that the music and stuff, it's not for the people there.
It's, it's for the people watching on TV. Sure. The problem with the Houston Rodeo is it's not televised.
It should be for the people there.
It, so, uh, okay. I don't know if this is true or not. I mean, it could be, I just don't know. But, um, every year for my dad's birthday, I buy him a subscription to the Cowboy Channel.
And part of the reason I do that is because it's the only place that you can stream the National Finals Rodeo outta Las Vegas.
So he, and like, it's, it's like a streaming service, so like you can watch it live, but they also keep them. So like if you miss a night, you can go watch. Okay. And, and you know, you can go, you can go back and watch last year's NFL and all that kind of stuff. I don't know if they put the, the Houston Livestock Show, but I imagine even if they did, they're only showing the rodeo.
Probably not the concert.
Yeah. Because there's, there's rights involved. There's all kinds of stuff, I'm sure.
Yeah. So I mean, and they've had like Creed played this year. Oh yeah. Which—
Well, my— I, I was planning on going to see Creed last— no, last Sunday to see Forrest Frank.
My, my son loves Forrest Frank. In fact, my daughter loves Forrest Frank too. And because they listen to it all the time, I've kind of— No, he's good. Gotten into the guy a little bit. Um, so we were gonna go with, uh, his best friend and, and their family, uh, and— but we needed 7 tickets.
Well, we got in the waiting room. He and I, his dad and I both got in the waiting room. He got in pretty quickly, but he could only get 6 tickets, not 7. So we're like, all right, my wife's out. Like, and, and she likes the rodeo type stuff, but her allergies are so bad and she did wind up getting sick. But we wind— I wound up changing my plans and, and taking a different trip with a another group of people, um, on a mission trip. And so I'm— I was gone, and so they went without me, but they said it was great. Like, they—
They went. It's the first— first time they've been to that rodeo. They've been to a rodeo before, but—
Oh, that's first time going to Houston rodeo?
My, my son was like, the bull riding was awesome. I was like, yeah, it is. Yeah, it is.
There's a bunch of it that's awesome.
Yeah, yeah. And he was— he He was talking about a bunch of different stuff. He really had a great time.
So I'm sure we'll do it again. I mean, you're right though, getting down there is a hassle. I mean, finding where to park and then no matter where you park, you've still gotta bus or tram or train over there.
Yeah, all you peasants do.
Well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, unless you know someone, like, or unless you're willing to just pay Uber to, to get you there. Yeah, that's the way it normally goes.
Yeah, I would imagine Uber is a— I mean, like, to get there is way better. Uh, leaving, I don't know if Uber'd be the way to go. I mean, that'd be kind of a nightmare.
I imagine for the drivers too, probably. But anyway, I— so I, I love the rodeo, but I don't want to go.
Okay. So, well, I, I— and the only part that makes it enjoyable to me is honestly, if I, if I go and there's like a concert that I don't wanna see. That's my favorite.
Because I don't mind leaving as soon as the actual rodeo's over. Cuz that's what I came, came there to see anyway.
I wanna watch that and I wanna get outta there.
So it makes it a little bit easier because I'm not having to stand in all that nonsense traffic whenever I was trying to get outta there.
Um, but even then, man, like it, and, and all the news stories coming out this year about it just, I think amplify my point. Dude, people get stupid at the rodeo.
It's been crazy. Like I, I've seen so many fights.
And so many ridiculous things that have happened. Like, I, I don't know, it, it brings the worst out in people, I guess. I mean, I, I, I think anytime you get that many people from all different walks of life, um, together for, for something like that, yeah, it can get crazy.
I, yeah. So it's, I, I, who knows what it, what the issue is, man, but it's, it, It's been crazy the amount of fights that have happened.
And I don't know if it's just because people are just more apt to record those things and publish those things now. Um, but I don't remember it being like this in the past.
I remember there being fights, but not on this scale.
Um, so it's, it's been nuts.
But, uh, do they ever do the PBR here in Houston?
That would be fun to go to.
I think they do it at, um, I don't know what they call it where the, uh, Rockets play.
Oh, the, the Toyota Center.
I think they do it at Toyota Center. Okay, cool.
Um, I would love to do that.
Which is a great venue for that.
It's a great venue. It's a little bit smaller.
Yeah. I mean, that's what I mean for PBR.
Um, so, and there's, there's other rodeos that come through, through, I mean, like they're fixing to have the Montgomery County Rodeo, which is a big rodeo.
Yeah. And it's a, that, that venue is really great. Yeah. It's a really great, I've seen monster trucks in there.
So that, that's actually one I'm thinking about. Uh, I got invited to join a committee over there for the— and that, that, that actually interests me because it's in my backyard.
Um, and it's more local. Yeah. I mean, my dad's been doing Houston Livestock Show for 20-plus years.
Sure. Um, they're there tonight, aren't they?
Um, my mom actually called me, uh, because they were— they, they spent the whole day down there today. And she goes, I think I know where all the fights are breaking out. And I was like, why? And she goes, I went to Chick-fil-A to get a drink and it was a Coke Zero. It was like a 12-ounce Coke Zero and they told me it was gonna be $9.
And I was like, yeah, that pissed me off too.
Yeah. I'll hit anybody. Yeah.
You know how much I paid for this thing?
I think I own part of the rodeo.
So, um, and she said that kid, he's like, no matter what it was, it was $10. A chicken sandwich, $10. Coke, $10.
So, but anyway, we, we had the, the fun scandal of Lena Hidalgo.
And if you haven't been paying attention, like, it got— it made national news.
So our beloved Harris County Judge Lena Hidalgo was escorted from the premises of the Houston Livestock Show. And I forget what— I didn't even know the artist that they were there to see. It was some girl wearing some Pink thing. I don't know, playing a pink guitar.
No, I didn't know who it was.
No, you was— it wasn't the artist Pink.
No, I think her name starts with like an M or something like that. Megan—
No, it wasn't Meghan Trainor.
I don't know, I'll go look.
Um, anyway, it was, it was like the pop night that they, that they had there. And I mean, for, for those of you that haven't heard the story, Lena Hidalgo had these guests with her. Uh, it was the family of like a fallen soldier and, and some other folks. Um, Megan Maroney. Megan Maroney.
I don't even know who that is. Who's that? Do you know a song by her?
Okay. Um, so anyway, Lena, there are, um, special tickets that you can buy at the rodeo for when the concert happens. You can actually go down through the chute and be on the floor for the concert, right? So she wanted to go down on the floor, didn't have any tickets. And so they kindly asked her to leave.
Um, and she didn't want to. And, you know, it just, it just blew up. And, and, and I think part of what everyone needs to understand is she had been given $9,000 worth of tickets for the shoot for previous rodeo shows this year already, over $9,000 worth of tickets. Which those tickets are about $450 a pop. So you can kind of do the math. She'd been given a lot of tickets.
Also, also, she didn't have— you have to have like a wristband to get down on the floor.
And that's your— that's how they know you have a ticket.
So she'd been able to do this. And so I can imagine her mindset being like, well, I've been able to go every other night.
I'm the county judge. Surely they'll just let me in because of my special guests.
And so then she throws a hissy fit.
And you— she released the recording of the conversation.
Which did not put her in a good light.
Um, she basically starts accusing everyone of like manhandling her, and I'm gonna go get proof that this guy pushed me. And so then she releases this letter and She asks for— her attorneys ask for footage from the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. They give her the footage. She says that's not good enough. So she goes down there to see the footage and she comes out and she says, well, I think it's time to put this whole thing to rest. You know, and like, just like she accused them of like racism and bigotry and like just all this stuff.
Yeah. And obviously there's no video evidence of any of that.
Yeah. She literally says there was no good angle to determine what I wanted to see.
Which means it either didn't happen or the footage is bad. Who knows? Who knows?
I mean, I'm sorry, you were trespassing.
I don't care who you are.
If you're trespassing, I'm not saying it's appropriate, but they're well within their right to manhandle you out of that place.
So also, I think it's good to keep in perspective that because she is the Harris County judge, she has— was given an honorary position with the livestock show and rodeo as like a chairman or something like that, of which the benefits are she has a suite every single night of the rodeo.
This is just like, so go to your suite and shut up.
Yes. Like, no, no one cares that you didn't get into the shoot that night. Shut your mouth and go eat your churros.
And they're gonna have really like, where you will see it on TV is in your suite. Yes.
And it'll probably sound pretty good.
Well, again, I— there's so many people in the world of all walks of life that feel privileged about who they are. And she obviously felt like, well, I can just do whatever I want to. And here's what's interesting to me, and again, you've probably read more about this than I have, but what I've seen, it's basically the Houston Livestock, uh, the rodeo committee who was like, no, you're not. This isn't happening.
So, like, the people, they— They weren't singling her out.
They were just going, you don't have the credentials to be here.
Well, like, let's, let's be clear. The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo exists to raise money for kids' scholarships.
That's the whole purpose of the organization.
It's a massive organization. It raises lots of money.
But one of my clients just spent $1 million to buy a goat. I mean, this is, this is, I mean, like, and it's, it's considered an in-kind donation. I don't think he's actually gonna keep the goat. Sure. You know, but like, that, that's what you do there. If you got, if you got money, you go spend a bunch of money on a sheep or a cow or like whatever.
And if you go to the convention center and go in there, you'll see thousands of students. Yeah. That are showing their animals through FFA.
And, uh, my nephew is one of those. kids. And, and he comes to the Houston Livestock Show every year.
In hopes of getting some scholarship money.
It's a, it's a great thing.
It's a great opportunity to get scholarship money. It is for those FFA kids. And so how do they do that? Big part of that is ticket sales.
That show was sold out. Yeah. And so her demanding not just a ticket for herself, but for, I think she had like 6 other guests with her.
So we're, we're, we're chasing in the neighborhood of like $3,000 that she's taking out of the hands of students, right, for their, for their scholarships, right? And I, I don't know why anybody else isn't framing this conversation in that manner, right? Like she, she's demanding things for free that literally takes money out of the hands of kids. And I doubt— and she's, she's not paying for the suite. No, that's just given to her by the, by the county.
Or by Houston Livestock Show. I, I don't know who gives it to her. Maybe the county pays for it. She ain't paying for it.
So just go to your suite and shut up. By the way, which she can't because they took it away.
Which they should have. You know who Mark Keough is? Oh yeah.
So he's, well, he's the county judge for Montgomery County.
Correct. Yeah. He posted on Facebook. Mark's safe from being arrested and think it's a livestock show. This is pretty funny.
Well, I mean, since, since this has all happened, Paul Bettencourt has called for her resignation.
There was another guy today that called for it. I can't remember who that was.
All the, all the Republicans.
And, and county, county judge is like a weird I don't know if people understand how that actually works. They don't actually like preside over cases.
So they're like, they're more in charge of like emergency and disaster relief. Mm-hmm. Um, so kind of a, kind of an interesting position anyway.
Well, she, uh, she should have thought before she got dropped off that night. Dude.
So it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.
So, I mean, I, I imagine this will affect election.
I don't know if that's coming up in November for her this year.
Like, there, this is the kind of thing that there's not anybody, I don't care who you are, there's not anybody that goes, you know what? She was treated unfairly.
I, I really wanna, I really wanna hear from somebody that thinks she was done wrong. Well, I wanna, I wanna like, not because I wanna, I wanna fight with 'em.
No. Give me your perspective. Yeah. I wanna, I don't have it. Yeah.
Maybe I'm missing something. I don't think I am. I think I'm dealing with, like, a privileged young person that got into a position of power and thought she could do whatever she wanted and threw a hissy fit when she found out she couldn't. I—
if you go look online right now at any news media outlet, they're not framing this in a positive light. No, every one of them.
Well, I mean, the story started in Houston. The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo is an institution that is Like, I'm not saying it's like above reproach. I mean, it's not like there's not stuff that doesn't go on with the rodeo. I'm sure there's mishandling of funds. I'm sure there's stuff that goes on with the rodeo.
But as an institution, good luck.
I mean, people love the rodeo because of what it is. It's not just a rodeo. It is a scholarship funding organization.
And it does a lot of good.
And look, People make a lot of money at the rodeos.
Chick-fil-A apparently being among the chief beneficiaries. Yeah.
Yeah. They're clo— they're, they've decided to close all of their locations and just go to the rodeos for about 4 weeks.
Guys, we're selling Cokes for $9. I don't know what you're getting up here, right? But it, it ain't enough.
Right? Ain't enough. Oh my goodness. Oh, it's crazy. Oh, it's crazy.
So, but what else are we gonna talk about?
We've got— there's, there's a bipartisan bill that they're talking about pushing through, and it is Tim Scott and Elizabeth Warren that are authoring this thing. And it's the 21st Century Road to Housing Act. Kind of an interesting one. They're trying to do a lot of stuff. Some of it seems kind of— there's— so, like, there's 2 different things. There's, like, the Road to Housing section, the Housing for the 21st Century section, and the 21st Century Road to Housing section. So there's like, there's 2 different things.
And then there's like a combined bill. And I think the combined bill is the bipartisan one. The big headline in this one is a Trump initiative that's being pushed through to limit the amount that financial institutions can own residential properties.
Which has been a big thing. A lot of people think that's the reason and like the sole reason that people can't afford homes right now is that it's like organizations like BlackRock has been buying so much residential property that it's reduced the inventory and they're not like renting it. They're not just, they're just holding it.
And it's in, it's increasing the cost of homes because they're, the inventory's short.
And so this, this bill is looking to tackle that, what I'm calling the perceived problem. I'm not saying it's not a problem. I just don't think it's like the boogeyman that everyone thinks that it is.
Um, so I mean, because we've, we've had moments in history where we've had just as little inventory as we have right now. Yeah, it's, it's part— I think it's part of a natural market cycle. I do think that they are manipulating it to some degree, but I just don't think they can manipulate it that much.
And people are going to hate on me about that and I don't care. It's just, it is what it is. I mean, I'm fine with this being a thing because I don't see the value in institutions like BlackRock being able just to hold endless amounts of residential property.
Which isn't fair in so many reasons. I think that what's interesting though is like, just anecdotally, there's a number of properties available in my neighborhood that had been there for 3, 4 months.
And so it is, it is interesting. While it is true there's still low inventory, uh, there's still stuff that's sitting on the market for a long period of time.
So I don't really know what that ultimately kind of filters out to, but yeah.
So, I mean, but the other stuff in the bill, I don't know that it's bad, but it's just like, so like housing counseling and financial literacy programs. I'm like, okay, why aren't we doing that in schools? Yeah. Aren't we paying for schools?
Isn't that what schools are supposed to be doing?
They should be. They're not. No.
anyway. Yeah. So increase housing Housing and Opportunity Zones, meaning they're going to provide grants in areas that the HUD designates as opportunity zones.
Whole Home Repairs Pilot Program. Again, grants that can be issued to repair homes either through grants or loans that you don't have to pay back.
I mean, well, if you drive through some of those areas, they need that. Really. I mean, I mean, they do. Someone's— because here's the problem. No one's gonna get the work done. Mhmm. If you don't.
This, this, this is, this is where I, I get, I get into muddy water with the whole limiting investors, investment institutions being able to buy these properties. Because that's when financial institutions like that can be really valuable to a community that they can come in buy distressed properties, fix them up, and then set— and then hand them off to people so that they can actually be livable again.
Um, and, and they're gonna make a profit, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Shouldn't they be able to?
Absolutely, they should. So this, this is where to me it gets— it's like, okay, yeah, that's true, we need that, but there's probably actually people who are willing to do that.
Um, with, with their investment, and there's probably— there's people who are really good at it. Um, But there's, there's other factors in there, right? Because, I mean, you can make— you can repair a broken house and make it look nice again, but it doesn't matter if you're going to get shot at every Wednesday. I mean, I mean, it's just the reality of the situation, right?
There's a reason sometimes that they're run down.
You still don't want to live there.
Because they've— those neighborhoods have been taken over by thugs.
Um, so anyway, there's lots of things that are in this, and I think the main headline of it is going to be, hey, we're going to limit the amount that these institutions can hold residential property. And I think, I think for a majority of America, they're gonna go, that's a good thing. We need to do that. And I'm going, did you look at the rest of the stuff that they're gonna be spending money on?
Like, did they kind of weasel in there?
And so, and this, I'm, look, this is, this is a Republican and a Democrat, you know, bipartisan bill.
Yeah. But like, I'm never in, I, I just don't like government programs in general. I don't think that they're really effective at doing the thing that they say they're going to do.
Well, so often they benefit such a small number of people, uh, because, well, I mean, we, we, we've, I've said this before and this is just, I, I understand the reason behind it, but like, if you told me today, Kevin, you need to, like, you're losing everything. You have to go on food stamps. I wouldn't know where to go.
I have no clue. The people that do, they know exactly where to go. They know exactly how long before they can go back. They know when to do it. They know what times, they know what days, they know what intervals. They know everything about the system because they've learned how to work the system.
At one point in time, they didn't know.
Sure. They had to figure it out.
But my, I guess my point is, So often these government programs benefit only the people that are willing to jump through whatever hoops and try to get whatever they need to. And, and it doesn't benefit ultimately the people that it really needs to, or it also doesn't benefit everybody. So it, it, I, I hear what you're saying. There's pros and cons. I just wish, and I, maybe I should not wish, I hope.
That if this gets pushed through, that it does what it's supposed to.
I mean, like, look, you could— there's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 programs that they're talking about adding, and a lot of it is just giving additional power to HUD. Mm-hmm.
Um, I— That you can't take back. Yeah.
I'm like, just pass the one thing.
Yeah. Pass the one. If you really think it's that bad, pass the one thing.
They want all the things.
So, but like, and like, again, like these are the same people that everyone's so suspicious of with the Epstein files dropping.
And people going like, why? Now, how is it that like all these congressmen are able to get like 87% returns on all their investments? Okay, but you're gonna trust them to like fix housing?
I don't think it's gonna happen.
Again, I think we're gonna see some, I think there's a lot of messed up stuff. I think we're gonna—
I do think we're gonna have another 2008.
I don't know what it's gonna look like, but I mean.
Well, something's gonna come to a head.
There's too much noise and there's, you know, there's too much stuff happening on the world stage that, is probably distraction from the mechanics of our economics right now.
That's usually, I mean, in my opinion, that's usually what's going on is like there's a distraction. We have a problem. We don't want people paying attention to that problem. And so in order to do that, let's go bomb the bejesus outta somebody.
So, but we're not that program. So, but I will say this, You and I have talked many times about housing affordability.
And it's one of the biggest complaints that we hear from people when we post things about, you know, like how maybe you don't need the house that you think that you deserve.
Ms. Hidalgo. You know what I mean?
So And people come at us all the time and it's like, well, in my part of the country, it's this much. And I'm like, okay. I never respond to these people because it's just a never-ending cycle of excuses. But like, why do you live there?
Do you have to live there?
No. Well, most likely not.
Could you find a job in a more affordable part of the country?
There's more affordable parts of the country where you could probably make the same money and pay a lot less for housing.
Or maybe make more money. You never know.
Or figure out how to be more valuable.
It's, look, and in the meantime, rent.
If you, if you have to live there and you want to live there, that's fine. I'm not gonna tell you that you have to move.
But don't cry to me about housing.
Because you're telling me like the only thing around you, the lowest, the cheapest thing you can get is $400,000.
So, which, yeah, I, I, I say crock on that one too, because you're just not look— you're looking for what you want.
Right. The only— these superlatives you're using are probably not—
Yeah. Give me, give me the zip code and I'll send you some listings. Right.
I was, I was talking with a customer today that lives on 4 acres.
And I was just talking to her about her property. She's got goats and chickens and, I mean, she's just happy as all get out.
And it's not a super nice house, but they've been doing a lot of work on it. It's gonna be, it's gonna be nice by the time they're done with it. And she said, we've lived here for 7 years now. And I said, that's awesome. And she goes, you know what we paid for this place? And I said, what? She goes, $87,000.
And I was like, you got to be kidding me. And she goes, no. She goes, the man that lived here before, he lived here for 5 years. and got foreclosed on. Wow. And we picked it up as a foreclosure.
And she goes, now in 2020, my taxes were $3,000. And in 2021, they doubled them. And in 2024 or 2023, they doubled them again.
And she goes, so the taxes are are not great, right? They keep going up and up.
There are fourths of the cost of the—
she goes, oh, and like, I mean, like, to be fair to the county, like, there's no way that that place is worth $87,000.
It's worth a lot more than that now.
Um, and so, and, and she, that's what she said that too. She's like, I didn't fight it because like it wasn't unreasonable what they were asking me to pay based off like what I thought the place was worth. Sure. But like, this is not far from you and me.
And she's on 4 acres with a 3/2 house.
That needed to be fixed up.
But she paid $87,000 for it 7 years ago. So, like, don't tell me that you can't find something.
Don't tell me that there's— they're not out there. They're in places that you don't wanna live.
They're styles that you don't want.
They are amenities that you don't want.
It's in a— like, there, there's all these things, and you've, you've put all these limits around what you can afford because you've decided that I have to have this.
And everyone just needs to, if you really wanna buy a house and, and it's like, it's that important to you. Mm-hmm. Then, like, I'm sorry, damn the details. Just find the, find the one that you can afford.
And build equity, save, which I'm not, look, when we say that a house is basically a savings account.
Oh, and it's a really good one.
It's a good savings account.
So like, find the one that you can afford.
Meaning build your equity.
And then in 4 to 5 years, go shopping again.
And this is— but like, here's, here's the crazy part is in 4 to 5 years, you might look at where you're at and go like, you know what?
I really like this place. It's not bad. It's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And, and there, look, We've, we've never lived in a really large home, not in comparison to what a lot of people live in, right?
We, like, you talking about you and me?
Well, really just you. Me specifically.
You're just speaking for yourself.
Um, I'm not saying I have. I'm just—
no, my, my family, um, you know, the, the largest house we've ever lived in was 2,400 square foot. We live in 2,200 right now. The first one we ever lived in was, uh, 1,850. Um, you, you can get away with whatever you're in. I mean, I remember whenever I was young, we lived in a— there are 5 people in my family. We lived in a, a 2-bedroom home that was about 1,200 square foot. There was 1 bathroom in there.
And that's what my house is listed at.
And I am not disputing it.
No, I wouldn't either. Um, but like you, I mean, 2-bedroom, 1-bathroom with 5 people.
Most people would go, that's insane. Mm-hmm. That's ridiculous. How could you possibly do that?
And And we were okay. And it's what, what our family could afford. It's what our family had. And we were, we were happy to have a place to live. Mm-hmm.
And when you, when you're a kid, we didn't keep, we didn't even know.
You didn't know any different.
It's, it was our normal. And so, look, I'm not, I'm not saying that it's, that there's anything wrong with, with having a large home. There's nothing wrong with it. In fact, it can be great, especially depending on how you choose to use that, that home. Right. Yeah. But I, I mean, even, even still, like I, I would, I would take my smaller house on 3.5 acres that we have right now over a large house on a one, you know, like an 8,000 square foot lot.
Yeah. Any day, any day I would take that.
I just need to be able to go out in the yard and pee.
Exactly. Yes, exactly. And I could do, I mean, that was, that was the first year of my son's life at our house.
It was so great. He was like, I gotta go pee. And he had run out the back door. We're like, all right. And what's hilarious is we've got like, you've seen it. There's like, as you come on our property, there's like an outhouse. It's, it's, it, it has tools in it. Like there's, it's not an actual working outhouse. But he, he would go behind the outhouse.
Yeah, exactly. But anyway, at least he went behind something. He went— he did. He did. So, well, look, we'd love to hear your thoughts on any of this.
Also, if Lena Hidalgo's suite is available, we are open.
Yeah, we can. Situation for her. We can occupy it.
At least for the next week.
We'll be very respectful.
Yeah, of course. Um, yeah, we won't ask for more than we've been given.
Why would we do that? That would be the most—
especially whenever you have that.
I don't want to be like around people.
That's the whole point of the suite, right?
Yes. And we'll take the parking pass anyway.
Um, it would be funny if we could get into— dude, I would, I would do it. We should do a live show from the Hidalgo Suite.
Anybody who wants to make that happen, just hit us up.
We should reach out to Julie and see if she can hook us up.
It's worth an ask. Look, there's no harm in asking for things. The worst thing that you can be told is no.
And I have been told no many times.
Yeah, because I like to ask. I don't mind asking.
I don't mind asking either.
But look, if you can help us out with this, info@homeownersshow.com, you can—
Well, sure. Yeah. Look, we, we handle other people's things with care. We just do.
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