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In this episode, Craig and Kevin review some new wireless surround sound speakers Craig has recently installed. If you’re like us, you really like good quality sound when watching TV. And, in the world we currently live, we are streaming more and more content. Gone are the days of Blockbuster, and even Red Box to some extent. While we go to the theater still, we still love having a theater quality to our system at home. This episode reviews two specific systems that allow you to install surround sound speakers without having them directly wired to your receiver. Our world is becoming…

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KEVIN

This is episode number 82 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. This is Craig, and we are broadcasting live from The Homeowner Show bunker.

KEVIN

We're still here, y'all. We are still here. Man, life has gotten weird.

CRAIG

Yes, quickly.

KEVIN

Yeah, really, really quickly.

CRAIG

So good thing that we only have a cast of 2.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

8 more and we are at capacity and illegal.

KEVIN

Yeah, at that point there are a lot of families in the world that are over 10.

CRAIG

I was like, I know some guys that have 10 kids, man. Yeah, like they can't even be in the same room now.

KEVIN

Exactly. So Bizarre, man. But you know, we were talking about this just a minute ago, like that last show was more timely than we realized it was gonna be.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like when we recorded the show, they hadn't started putting the kibosh down on cities and meetings and canceling Easter and— Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know if people realize that yet. I mean, if things stay the way that they are, you will not be gathering at your local place of worship for Easter.

KEVIN

Right, April 12th is Easter, and right now, schools in our area are out till April 13th minimum.

CRAIG

Ours is out to the 20th right now, and they just had a— well, actually, a couple hours ago they had another update, so they may have moved it again.

KEVIN

I don't know.

CRAIG

Okay, but ours is out to the 20th. Okay, so I mean, like, any, any churches that meet in schools are out.

KEVIN

They're done. Yeah, I mean, a lot, a lot of really, really weird things happening.

CRAIG

And no resurrection for you.

KEVIN

Not this year.

CRAIG

Easter Nazi.

KEVIN

We're just gonna have to redo Easter. Is that possible?

CRAIG

Yeah, that's fine.

KEVIN

Yeah, we'll have a like a faux Easter.

CRAIG

It's not like Christmas is his actual birthday.

KEVIN

Easter's a little more positive as far as the time of year with the Passover and everything.

CRAIG

But anyway, yeah, there's, there's grace there.

KEVIN

I hope so. Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of people worshiping with their neighbors, uh, from afar even.

CRAIG

Yeah, so, so it's, it's, it's weirdness all around, man.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, let me tell you something else that's weird, man. So, uh, I, I, you, you may remember from, I don't know, 10 episodes ago or so, whenever I had made a really poor choice of—

CRAIG

Kevin, let me tell you, I remember every word you say.

KEVIN

I highly doubt that. We probably wouldn't be friends if you did.

CRAIG

I have notebooks and notebooks.

KEVIN

Oh man, transcribed audio from Kevin Haggett.

CRAIG

Uh, creepiest co-host ever.

KEVIN

So, um, We talked about the fact that I had decided to switch homeowners insurance, right? And then it didn't work the way I wanted it to. And so we switched back.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Okay. Well, all of that was craziness. And I had to do all kinds of silly things. Like, thankfully, I had not cashed either one of those escrow checks, refund checks. And so I was able to just put those back into escrow and pay my insurance again, the one that I Stuck with. Stuck with.

CRAIG

Stuck with.

KEVIN

Yeah. You know what I mean?

CRAIG

Word of the show.

KEVIN

Yeah, stuck.

CRAIG

You stookin'.

KEVIN

Stookin' out. Uh, so, um, the one I stayed with. And so it's, it's time for our, our mortgage every year. You know, they reanalyze your, your mortgage. And, you know, if, if you're like us and we have— we work off of an escrow account And so they analyze that, make sure you have enough, they project, blah, blah, blah. Well, our insurance, and with everything going on, they reanalyzed our mortgage. And last year our mortgage went up like $70 or $80, which was kind of crazy to us. And then this year it went up another $50.

CRAIG

Hmm.

KEVIN

And I was like, man, we're— this is not where we bought this house at. We were not expecting to pay at this point, you know, close to $125 to $150 more than what we originally wanted to pay for this house. And so I got, I got online the other day and looked at my account because I had gotten a letter from our mortgage company that said, uh, we need your insurance documents. I was like, that's weird. Like, I'm pretty sure they had them, uh, but whatever, I'll call in and check. And so when I got online, I noticed that they had paid out my insurance for the year.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

I was like, I'm pretty sure that had already happened. Why are they paying it out again? Oh, by the way, uh, they had taken out almost $2,300 from my homeowner's insurance, and I know for a fact that my homeowner's insurance is only $1,300 a year. So I'm like, I— okay, I thought they'd already paid this, plus it's way more than it should have been. So I call in and they said, well, we don't have your, um, your new insurance documented. And I said, well, that's weird because you paid them.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And they said, well, let me go look. Oh, well, this is interesting. It happens every once in a while, but apparently, uh, you're— when you— when your insurance was reinstated, they didn't document it correctly, and it looks on our end like you don't have it, but I can see right how— right here, all of your doc— documents are here. Everything's here. It's just not in the right spot. And I said, so did y'all go buy insurance for me? And they said, yeah, we thought you didn't have insurance, so they went out and bought insurance for you. So I was like, so I got 2 homeowners insurances here, and one of them is really expensive.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And she said, this is not a big deal, don't worry about it, I can take care of this. I see everything that needs to happen. This, this lady was phenomenal, y'all. Um, and, and so she said, um, I'm gonna get this put in the right spot. And oh, by the way, you're gonna get that almost $2,300 refunded.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Um, it's gonna go right back into escrow. It's not gonna come to you personally. When it happens, I want you to call back in when you see the refund hit. Should happen within 14 days. Uh, when it happens, call back in and have them reanalyze your escrow. Okay, no problem. Today I just happened to think about it again, and I went in and looked. It had been refunded. They had already reanalyzed my escrow for me, and my payment dropped $120 a month.

CRAIG

Nice.

KEVIN

I— the moral of the story is this: If you're going to change insurances even once, let alone if you do it twice, make sure that your mortgage company has all of the documents in the right place.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and, and part of it was—

CRAIG

If that's how you do your insurance.

KEVIN

If that's how you do your insurance. I mean, some of you are going to pay it outright and you're not going to have an escrow. We have escrow. Um, so if you're using escrow, make sure you're— watch your escrow account. Because, I mean, they're going to do with it what they need to.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, they're going to require you to have insurance on your home, and so they're going to have to have all that information. And what happened for us was we had apparently gotten a letter from them a couple of months ago that we just didn't see. For some reason, it got buried underneath some other mail, and, um, we didn't see that they were asking us for our insurance documents. They already had it. But, um, anyway, it's like 2 months clicked on the right file folder.

CRAIG

Exactly.

KEVIN

So anyway, crazy, crazy stuff. I think we finally got that stupid mistake that I made back in December of like trying to switch homeowners insurance, which was—

CRAIG

See what you get for trying to help a friend.

KEVIN

I know, I love the guy, but listen, You need to make sure you cover yourself first. So how you doing, man?

CRAIG

Doing really good, Kev. You know, it's obviously, this is like a weird time for everybody.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And I think people are still trying to figure out how they even feel about everything that's been going on.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, right now, right, it's interesting 'cause like there's more people walking around and like out in my neighborhood than there ever have been since I've lived there.

CRAIG

I've never seen so many joggers in my life.

KEVIN

People are active. They're able to do things around their house. Right now, it's almost as if this is kind of fun. I don't know how else to really describe it. People are just kind of like— they're talking about it. In fact, I was out riding bikes with my kids this evening, and this guy was walking around, and he said, He said, y'all doing okay? And we're like, yeah, we're doing good. He's like, I saw— he said, y'all, your kids hadn't driven you up the wall yet? And I was like, not yet. He's like, I saw a really funny meme on Facebook. I'm like, this old dude knows what a meme is. That's awesome. I'm pretty proud of him. And he's like, yeah, it said, if you see me talking to myself,

KEVIN

don't worry, I'm just having a parent-teacher conference. He was pretty proud of himself. I thought it was pretty funny myself.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

But I'm like, it's almost as if these kind of interactions are normal. So to speak. And it's like people are just kind of having fun with it. What I'm really concerned about is like next week and the week after.

CRAIG

Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking week 3 is when it could get a little, a little dicey.

KEVIN

Yeah, so people are gonna get just stir-crazy.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So, but I mean, business is, is okay for you right now?

CRAIG

Yeah, no, it's— I mean, I was, I was telling you today, we've been, you know, bringing new customers on. And, you know, I, I think for us You know, since everyone's at home right now, people are gonna be more acutely aware of the issues going on in their home.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so I think, I think a lot of the, a lot of you guys out there in the service industry need to be paying attention to this. It, you know, I, I think we're gonna start getting a lot more phone calls and I think it's not because there's more wrong in people's homes. I think that there's just, they're at home now and they're paying attention because they have the time to pay attention to this stuff.

KEVIN

It's not just a Saturday and Sunday that they're home.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

They're home for days and days and days. Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and like one of the things we're dealing with right now is this is when squirrels have started having young ones. And so they've started nesting in people's roofs.

KEVIN

I hate those things.

CRAIG

And yeah, they're the worst. Um, and so we've been getting a lot of those kinds of calls and things like that. So, um, it's just, you know, in general, it's, it's usually a busy time of the year for us anyway. Um, so it's, it's not really a surprise that, you know, and, and I think people are, even though the market has just completely tanked, I mean, I was reading some numbers on it the other day that pretty much every gain that we've gotten since Trump's been in office, we've lost that now. It's all gone.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but I think a lot of people are feeling, you know, feeling like they got a little bit of juice. If they still have a job, they feel like they've got a little bit of juice. And then they, you know, they're reading about the stimulus package that's coming through where like they're, they're planning on giving families, you know, thousands of dollars over the next couple of months. Um, and, you know, unfortunately, um, a lot of people spend money that they don't have yet.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, and so, you know, I think one of the other things to, to, you know, be saying to, to business and operators and people who provide services for homes is, you know, like, don't take advantage of this moment, right? Um, you know, that you, you know, you're not building a business for this next week, you're building a business for the next 20 years. Yeah. Um, and, and those people who are in your community are your customers for the next 20 years. They're not your customer for the next week, right?

KEVIN

Well, and on the flip side of that, um, as a homeowner, you might just see what you can do yourself. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that— I mean, honestly, pest control is probably not one of those things. Don't, don't go buy a bottle of Ortho and think that you've done something good.

CRAIG

I don't encourage anyone to touch chemicals, period.

KEVIN

Yeah, but I mean, if you've got something that needs to be done, YouTube is still online, y'all. Yeah, there's a lot of things. Home Depot is open till 6 right now. There's still stuff you can do.

CRAIG

Well, it's a good time to get those projects done.

KEVIN

It is. I mean, a lot of—

CRAIG

I've A lot of my friends are being told to work from home.

KEVIN

Me included.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so like, you know, you can, you know, do your work, be a good employee, but you know what? You can subtract that commute time now.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And you've got that extra time at home to tackle some of those projects you haven't had time for or the energy for.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

So it's, you know, like we discussed in the corona episode that we did, like this, you know, this is an opportunity. What you do with it is up to you.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

If you squander it, that's on you.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

If you use it to improve yourself, to improve your house, to improve your family, to improve your marriage, good for you, and for using that time valuably.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

And wisely. So, got a really cool episode for you guys today. We're going to be talking about some tech that I've been tinkering around with in my home. We're going to be talking about wireless surround sound.

KEVIN

OK, I'm really interested in this because Recently, um, I, I— when we moved into this house, I've got some really, really good speakers, and because of the way our living room is set up, I, I just can't put them in. And, and part of that is just the size of them and the configuration of the room, but part of it is because I don't have wiring to the back places that they need to go.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So one of the things I did do is I bought a component that allowed me to Bluetooth to my subwoofer.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And so I was at least able to put a subwoofer in the back of the room and get a little bit of bass.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

But I'm really interested to hear what you're talking about.

CRAIG

Yeah, so I actually decided to experiment with 2 different systems. Part of the reason is because I needed 2 sets of surround sound speakers because we had a 7.2 system.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and I wanted to take advantage of that. I haven't been able to take advantage of that since I bought this receiver. Never used surround sound with this receiver. Um, bought it for other reasons so I could do some other things that I needed to be able to do with it. I just happened to have that. And since we moved into the new house, never really had like a theater room. Well, since we remodeled pretty much everything in the house, um, we, we had to make some weird decisions on the downstairs that we talked about before with, you know, J-Hugh and JoJo over there at Affordable Air. And, and basically reconfigure that room and The way that the room's designed, similar situation, couldn't get wires to the back of

CRAIG

that room and didn't really know how we wanted the room configured after we had to make those changes. And so it was impossible to be able to run wires or any of that kind of stuff. And so I just had sort of made the decision, like, I know this technology is available now. I've heard it's not terrible. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait until the room is set up the way that we want it, and then I'm gonna come through with a wireless system and see if I can make it work.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, uh, yeah. And, um, so went with 2 brands as well. Um, went with Rocketfish and Insignia.

KEVIN

Oh, both really good brands.

CRAIG

Yeah. So pretty good brands, brands people know. I mean, like you can buy both those brands at Best Buy. You can order 'em off Amazon, all that kind of stuff. Um, the, the 2 main differences between these systems is the Rocketfish system is a, is a standalone receiver. transmitter system.

KEVIN

Okay, almost like a soundbar system that has its own thing. You don't need your— you don't need your other receiver for this system, right?

CRAIG

Right. It's got its own power. Yeah. And everything. Um, and I will warn people right at the front end of this is really pay attention to what it is that you're buying, uh, for your system, because some of these wireless— in fact, I'll even say from what I found, a majority of the wireless surround sound systems are intended to be paired with a very specific system, usually a soundbar system, but sometimes they're brand-specific and they have, you know, specific components in them that are meant to be paired with only that brand's other devices.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And so you really have to pay attention to like how this system communicates. And that was one of the ad— you know, advantageous things about the Rocketfish is it was universal. You could really plug it— I mean, the way it hooks up is with speaker wire, and that the transmitter and the receiver both hook up via speaker wire. Oh, um, so, uh, the, the Rocketfish I, I ended up using as my main rear, uh, set of speakers, and I had a nice set of bookshelf Polk— I think it's like a 4-inch bookshelf with a, you know, sub and a tweeter. And I was actually a little concerned that it might be a little much for this

CRAIG

because, I mean, like, it's, it's a pretty low-profile box that the Rocketfish sends you. I mean, it might be, you know, 4.5 inches by 3 inches box. No, that is the power unit. Okay, the speakers. And You know, all it really has is a volume dial on it.

KEVIN

That's it. Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and then you— and, you know, it's got left and right, you know, you know, black and red speaker ports on the, on the back side, and that's it.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

Um, I know I take that back. It does have like a pairing button.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

If you're having issues getting it—

KEVIN

Does it have a remote with it?

CRAIG

No remote. Oh, no remote. So I think it— which to me I'm actually really okay with, um, you know, as far as it being like rear speakers, like I want my receiver to be managing the volume level of those speakers.

KEVIN

So it's still running through your, uh, through your receiver?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So the, the transmitter hooks up to the receiver, and then the receiver for the speakers and the power for the speakers is actually the, the receiver.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So it's kind of a confusing way to talk about it because the receiver is usually like the home theater system, but this is also a receiver that receives the signal from the transmitter. transmitter that's connected to the main receiver.

KEVIN

It's almost like a hub.

CRAIG

It is a hub.

KEVIN

So it's, it's a hub that plugs into your receiver. So let's back up for a minute because we're using a lot of terms that I think some people may not understand. Let's talk about a receiver first.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Um, so one of the things that, uh, if you, if you do not just have a television hooked up to power that you're running your, you know, just regular sound comes out of the speakers on your television. Some people have a soundbar system, right? Okay, within that soundbar system, there's some sort of receiver because you've got to get audio from your TV to the speaker, right? And so that's— that device is called a receiver.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Now, there are bigger receivers out there Um, more like what you're talking about. The one that I've got, it's a Yamaha brand. What brand are you running?

CRAIG

Sony.

KEVIN

Sony. Um, Onkyo is also a really, really good one. Pioneer is a good one as well. Um, and so a lot of it will route not just audio but also video, right? Um, so you can have multiple sources coming in that all feed into your, your, uh, video source, which is your TV. And then also multiple sources that run everything to your speakers. That thing is called a receiver. So what you're talking about is you've got a whole nother device here that is powering speakers that plugs into your trans— in, into your receiver that is spitting out audio to those speakers. So one question that I've got is, in order for what I was talking about

KEVIN

earlier, so the Bluetooth uh, deal that I'm running, it's basically a hub that plugs into the subwoofer port, Bluetooth to the other hub, right, that plugs into the, uh, to the subwoofer to get sound. In order for that system to work, I have to have both power for that hub and power for my speaker because that's just the way it's set up. It's got to be a powered subwoofer, otherwise it doesn't work, right? Do these surround sound speakers have to be powered? Do you have to—

CRAIG

Independently?

KEVIN

Independently?

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

Oh, that's amazing, right?

CRAIG

I mean, that's why I was concerned that it might not be quite powerful enough to operate these speakers, because they're pretty good size. I mean, like, the— these Polks, I mean, like, a lot of people buy them for like smaller home theaters, and they could be like your main left and rights.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, you know, my, my main left and right lights are 2 12s, a 4-inch, and then a tweeter. Okay, so like they're big— yeah, they're tower speakers. Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, so those are the old, uh, Technics.

CRAIG

They're our Technics.

KEVIN

Yeah, nice.

CRAIG

I love them. Yeah, they're fantastic.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, I, they're— I've actually had them since— well, they weren't mine, but like they've, they've been around me since I was like 6 or 7 years old.

KEVIN

My, my dad has had a, uh, Technics system since before I was born.

CRAIG

Yeah, they're so good. If you can find this, you can find like— you can actually find the speakers pretty reasonable online. People get rid of them all the time, like $100. They're fantastic speakers. Yes, they are. Um, so anyway, uh, yeah, so, so in comparison to my main left and right and my center channel, they're not that big, but they're pretty big speakers. And so I was, I was concerned I was going to be getting, uh, some distortion or that I might have to like downgrade to a smaller speaker, you know, because typically people for their, you know, surround sound don't use that big of speakers, right? But why not?

KEVIN

Well, and, and again, it, it all depends on what you're looking for, right? I mean, I, I, I tell people, if you really want to hide the size of your speakers, get a Bose system, right? Because, uh, you know, my, my motto has always been, no highs, no lows, must be Bose. Um, they're great for just a mid-range. You want some surround sound and you want it to be inconspicuous, they're fantastic. But the reality of it is, uh, the bigger speaker you've got, the more accurate sound you're gonna get produced out of them for the most part.

CRAIG

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if you've ever heard the, uh, the sound system we have out on the party deck, but those are, those are Bose towers.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Uh, and they, man, like, and they're older.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so they're older Bose, but they're, I mean, those are big tower speakers and those put out a lot more, you know, beef than your typical Bose.

KEVIN

Um, I'm not knocking Bose. Well, no, I'm just saying if you're, if you're gonna put small speakers in, go with Bose.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, I know, they're fantastic little speakers.

KEVIN

The big ones you've got out there, they are great.

CRAIG

So, man, you can hear those clear across the pasture. So, um, but I, I think those are, I think those are an oddity in, in the Bose family.

KEVIN

Yeah, well, I've never seen another pair like them.

CRAIG

So, um, I forget where we found those. It was like a resale shop or something like that. Um, really cool, really cool looking speakers.

KEVIN

They are.

CRAIG

But, uh, so, so that was— that experiment turned out really well.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, honestly, like, I have, I have zero complaints. Like, and so I think, I think anybody looking for like a typical home theater setup with like a smaller set of speakers will be more than, more than happy with the performance of these. And I think, well, I think when I started shopping for these, they were like $100. It was $100 For the wireless setup.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I think it's significantly less. I think it's like $80 now.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

For that. Or I may have just caught it on sale, 'cause I think I ended up paying like $84 for that setup.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

Not that and the speakers, just the transmitter and receiver.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, and it's not difficult to find. It's difficult to find if you go looking for it in the store. It's not something that they put out front.

KEVIN

Is it just called a wireless rear speaker kit?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, I, I—

KEVIN

what I found right here is $119.

CRAIG

Yeah, and I, I've seen them more than that, but like, it's, uh, you can, you can find it cheaper if you, if you find— if you're looking for it Amazon, Amazon's usually got a way better price. Um, and but if you just have to get it from Best Buy, if you take the Amazon listing in, they'll match it. Sure. Um, they're real good about that. So up to $400. Yeah, up to $400.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, okay, not gonna go crazy, right? So the, the next, uh, the next setup is, is cool in its own right in that you don't have to have speakers. It comes with speakers.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And it— but it comes with a traditional size of what you would normally think are like a surround sound size speaker.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and so transmitter, receiver, and speakers and the wire. Um, and that was, uh, I'm trying to remember how much that one was. Ah, I, I wanna say it was, uh, it, it was like another $100 or something like that.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

For that setup, which still isn't bad for, you know, the, the whole shebang, but not, not nearly as, as much power. Um, or, you know, and I don't think that you wanna stray too far from the speaker size that they provide. So, you know, and I would— I need to go back through and read the literature on it, but I would imagine there's language in there that says, you know, do not, you know, exchange speakers for addition— for different speakers or something. I imagine there's something in there like that. Um, so, so the sound quality on it is not, you know, it's not going to knock your socks off.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Is, is really what I'm trying to say. That being said, it's very functional. It does the job.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

You know, and so what, what I was concerned with is because like I'm, I've got a pretty distinct ear when it comes to audio. I'm, I'm not crazy particular. It doesn't have to be perfect. I'm not looking for like crystal clarity or anything like that, but I tend to be kind of picky because I was trained to be picky when it comes to audio. Um, but at the end of the day, pretty happy with the performance of these things. So, um, yeah, I think that's it.

KEVIN

That looks—

CRAIG

Yeah, that's it.

KEVIN

Okay, I'm just showing him something.

CRAIG

Sorry, he was showing me a pic. He was, he was asking— he showed me a picture of it.

KEVIN

They're actually on clearance right now for $53.

CRAIG

$53? Yeah, that's probably what I paid for them.

KEVIN

They're normally $130, so they're on clearance.

CRAIG

That's what it was. I, I bought it on clearance.

KEVIN

Yeah. All right, um, So you, you've been picky about audio because you're trained to, but they're, they're not bad.

CRAIG

They're— no, I mean, like, they're, they're gonna get the job done. And these are my— so for like a 7.2 system, what you have is you've got, you know, center channel, left and right, subwoofer, and then you have a midsection of surround sound and then your rear section of surround sound. So I've got my big rear section surround sound in, and so these guys are my little tiny ones in the middle. And for my living room setup, they were actually perfect because they're very discreet. They're easy to, you know, kind of stow away. Like, I was able to actually hide all the wiring and cabling for these actually underneath my couch.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And actually put the speakers like right next to the couch.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

And so you kind of get that feel of the speaker right there next to you when you're sitting on that in that space.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So the— my— so upside, upside of, of all— of both these units is, uh, they're very functional.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

They absolutely do the job, you know. And I was, I was concerned about, you know, latency. I was concerned about clarity and haven't had an issue with either one of those. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which are the 2 big ones that I think most people ought to be concerned about.

KEVIN

That's the biggest thing, especially with my sub. I was thinking, man, this is going to take some time. And if it, you know, if there's like an explosion, it's like delayed, it'll be the weirdest thing ever.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And I personally, I have not had that issue.

CRAIG

And that can really throw off, you know, the movie experience that you're trying to capture in that moment or experience in that moment. And, you know, maybe, you know, maybe this isn't that big of a deal to you, but like, I think for a lot of people, you know, I think, I think the home theater experience over the next few years is going to be amplified more and more as we get into streaming services and 4K streaming. I don't know if most people realize this, but most of the movies that you stream, the audio that you're getting on those downloads is surround sound.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

Your home audio experience on these streaming services is top-notch.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is. One of the weird things that has happened with all this coronavirus stuff. Have you seen the movie stuff going on right now? Well, they're pushing back a lot of movies, I know that. They are, but the movies that are being released and that are out, mm-hmm, with, with the theaters closed, shut down, they are working on— by, by the time this comes out, this show comes out on Tuesday, My understanding is that it will already be in place to where you can download current, um, current movies that are in the theater.

CRAIG

Oh really?

KEVIN

At your home for like $20 for a 48-hour rental period.

CRAIG

Dude, that's awesome.

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

And that's worth it.

KEVIN

Absolutely it is. I mean, because, you know, a ticket's roughly $10, and if your whole family— I mean, movie theaters are going to take it in the shorts, but I mean, well, But yes, they are, but they're still trying to find a way for you to, A, have an experience.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's one of the things I'm honestly just loving about this right now, like the way people are stepping up and saying, hey, I'm gonna give you this free for a month, or I'm gonna give you— I'm gonna throw this out there and just kind of make this available for a while. Um, people are trying to figure out, you know, I'm gonna deliver the food to you now.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I'm trying to find ways to make this work for, for people. And so these theaters have said, look, I can make a little bit of money by offering— and, and, and honestly, it's going to go a long way with people to say, look, I want a movie experience. I'm sitting at home, I've got nothing else to do. I've been really looking forward to seeing Onward, for example.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Like, I want to see that in my home. So, uh, you know, when you download that or stream it for that 48-hour period, it will be in surround sound. There's no doubt.

CRAIG

Well, let me tell you, man. So like right before this coronavirus stuff hit, my son and I had been reading Call of the Wild together.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so like the incentive that I use with my kids to read books is I usually try and pick a book that has a movie that they'd be interested in seeing. And so like, look, if we read this book, then we can go see the movie.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

This one happened to have a new version of the movie coming out with Harrison Ford, and so I wanted to go see it and Gatchell wanted to go see it. So I'm like, let's read this book. Well, we finished the book like the day before they, you know, did the self-quarantine stuff. And, and so like he's been after me now for like days like, hey, when are we gonna go see that movie? Like, we read the book, when are we gonna go see the movie? I'm like, bud, check tomorrow. I'm so sorry.

KEVIN

Literally tomorrow. Yeah, it will already have happened.

CRAIG

Tomorrow will already be past by the time you hear this, but But I'm stoked if that's the case.

KEVIN

Well, I'm waiting to see if it's gonna happen, but my understanding is that it is happening. And by the way, it's an awesome movie.

CRAIG

Oh yeah, because you went and saw it.

KEVIN

I went and saw it, dude. It is really, really good.

CRAIG

I'm stoked. So it's one of my favorite books.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So I'm a little distracted. There's like this mutant moth outside the studio window right now trying to get in and attack Kevin.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's, uh, it's quite large.

CRAIG

Like, you, you might be able to hear him over the microphones, he's so big.

KEVIN

It's huge.

CRAIG

He's like the size of my hand.

KEVIN

Oh, he's, he's really wanting to get to this light too.

CRAIG

Good grief. So anyway, um, so yeah, with the, with the changing landscape of, of the home theater system, uh, and honestly, we probably need to get a home theater expert in here to kind of talk about how all that stuff's changing because I'm sure it's, it's It— I, I know that it's, it's, it's changing so rapidly that the experience is going to be far beyond what we're even thinking about right now. Um, I mean, like, just, just for instance, I mean, like I mentioned that I bought the, the receiver that I bought for a specific— the reason I bought that theater is at the time it was one of the only, uh, 7.2 systems that could manage 3D.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and like nobody's doing 3D anymore.

KEVIN

Nope. Um, outdated technology.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Which is weird because you would think out 3D would not be outdated yet.

CRAIG

Yeah. They're technically still making 3D movies, but people could care less about watching them in their homes. They only want to watch them in theaters. I enjoyed watching them in my house. My 3D experience was pretty top-notch. If I still had a 3D TV that worked, we'd probably still be watching them. You think about all the iterations that we've had now. You think about curved flat-screen TVs, you think about backlit LED TVs, you think about now 4K TVs. I think they're coming out with 8K here pretty quick. It's just going to continue to progress, maybe. It's probably going to slow down a little bit with everything we're going through right now. It's just going to be important to

CRAIG

you know, be able to be a little flexible.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

With, with your home theater system. And for me, like, man, this offered all kinds of flexibility. And I'm like, because this is the way that we— that I did this system, we could reconfigure our living room, no problem.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, and be set up well in minutes.

KEVIN

It's really interesting to me because I don't know whether or not this Rocketfish solution would power the speakers that I've got.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Um, the rear speakers that I've got, uh, have 5 speakers in them.

CRAIG

Oh wow.

KEVIN

So they're big and, uh, they're amazing, uh, but they're hang-on-the-wall speakers.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

If I, if I could find a way, a way to hang these on the wall and be powered wirelessly, uh, that would be unbelievable. It would completely change my experience.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and then, you know, I've got, I've got my floor speakers that, um, they're still a little bit of an issue, but part of the issue is if I, if I set them up right now, I would have speaker wire running on the ground.

CRAIG

I'm not doing that.

KEVIN

So this could provide a solution. I'm pretty pumped to, to check it out.

CRAIG

Yeah, no, it's, it's been a good solution for us. Um, I mean, I can show you the size of the the speakers that we plugged into these. I mean, they're not, they're not, I mean, we can look at the load on 'em and all that kind of stuff and see if they're comparable. But man, I've been stoked with the performance of them. I mean, and it could just be, it's possible that because I went from nothing to something that I'm just happy that I have, that I don't have nothing.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But And it could also be that because my rear speakers are a pretty high-quality speaker, um, and I'm just getting good performance out of those as well. Um, but both systems, man, have, have served the purpose that I wanted them to serve.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, you know, in like, in, in buying 2 systems like that that aren't necessarily compatible with one another or any of that kind of stuff, you know, and I, I bought them thinking like one of these I'll probably be happy with and the other one I won't.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I was happy with both of them. And then, and they, you know, they, they do have their downsides. They weren't the easiest things to discreetly plug in. And if you've seen my— if you saw my living room and how my home theater system's set up, it's a, it's a little different. Um, but they weren't as easy to get back there and, and be discreet with being out in the open enough to, you know, have that transmission you know, alleyway basically. So it's got a clear line of sight, which you don't necessarily have to have a clean line of sight. I just know that it works better if you do. Sure. Um, so, you know, all in all, you know, 2 thumbs up from me. It's, you know, it's, it's got minimal

CRAIG

downside. Um, obviously there's limitations as to the size of speakers you can use, and, you know, with the, with the, you know, all-in-one system, you're not really ever going to be able to upgrade those speakers. Yeah, you're kind of stuck with those. Um, you could probably trade them out for similar speakers, um, and, you know, and maybe if those are Bose, you might get some better performance out of them that way.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but that's yet to be seen. I haven't, you know, I haven't played around with that. Um, so, but, you know, as far as it being accessible and, um, you know, flexible and all those different kinds of like above and beyond what I expected. Sure, you know, and that's awesome. Yeah, so, and I'm usually pretty, pretty critical when it comes to this, these kinds of things.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so yeah.

KEVIN

Cool. Well, man, I'm excited. I'm gonna, I'm gonna check it out. The other thing is, uh, we will make sure that, that these are— at least some iteration of these are, are linked up on the, uh, on the show notes. So just, uh, look below You'll be able to find some information about those.

CRAIG

Yeah. So to transition a little bit quickly, I had a crazy stop today at a house that had been flooded 4 times.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, that sounds horrible.

CRAIG

It was horrible. So, and this was, this is somebody that's been a customer for a long time, and this was an investment property that she had inherited. And so anyway, the house had flooded 4 times, and this particular particular instance, the upstairs commode had leaked into the ceiling of the kitchen. So seasoning everything. Um, and so that was, that was just unpleasant. Um, and I, I got called in because they were having some other issues. But like, I was there and I was, I was sort of observing. They, you know, had to rip the ceiling out and, um, and then kind of walking me through all the different floodings that they'd gone through, and like flood—

CRAIG

internal floodings, like the hot water heater busted and, um, something else, you know. It's like all these different things just kept causing water to come in the house. And the thing that came into my brain is like, oh my gosh, if they just had Paul come and hook everything up, right, none of this would have ever happened, right?

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

I mean, like, they'd be saving thousands and thousands of dollars by not letting their house get flooded by all this water and bursting pipes and sewage coming in the house that they're having to now pay thousands of dollars to contractors to not just fix the pipes and the plumbing and the fixtures and all that kind of stuff, but the drywall. And oh man, I mean, they would have saved thousands of dollars.

KEVIN

Goodness gracious.

CRAIG

By just having the right professional plumber come in and install everything properly the first time.

KEVIN

Call Paul.

CRAIG

Call Paul the plumber, for the love.

KEVIN

Please, people, make good decisions in life.

CRAIG

So, and you know, and as you're at home, Right now, like Kevin and I mentioned, you're, you're going to be at home and you're going to be noticing things that are not quite right. And if any of those things are plumbing, you need to give Paul the Plumber the call. So you can, you can reach out to them in the office. You can call them at 832-521-3252, or you can email them at deborah@paultheplumberllc.com. You can also book them online at paultheplumberllc.com. And I did not realize this, Kevin, you can book them on Facebook.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Huh.

CRAIG

You can book an appointment on Facebook. They've got a little button on their homepage on Facebook that says Book Now.

KEVIN

Well, that's super easy.

CRAIG

You click it. Oh, and then you get Paul or one of his professional licensed and insured plumbers to your door.

KEVIN

That's amazing.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

That's easy. So why would you not do that?

CRAIG

We don't even do that in our business.

KEVIN

You should, apparently. No, good stuff, man.

CRAIG

Anything else we got going on today, Kev?

KEVIN

No, I think that's about it. We've covered a variety of topics. Hopefully, there are more and more people out there, as you're staying home, working on projects, putting those earbuds in and turning on the Homeowner Show. Thanks for doing so.

CRAIG

We'll get you through this crisis.

KEVIN

That's right. We're going to continue to put out episodes. Thankfully, Craig and I are social distanced right now across the table. We live close enough together, though, that we can make this happen. And if worse comes to worse, we'll call in, man.

CRAIG

That's right. There's a, there's a partition of Lysol between us right now.

KEVIN

That's right. So, you know, keep tuning in, sharing with your friends. Hopefully we will all make it through this together. Stay safe, be smart, don't do stuff that's stupid. And that's my best advice.

CRAIG

But yeah, we're gonna be here every Tuesday, you know, lest the crick don't rise, you know. Earth does rise. God willing, and the creek don't rise.

KEVIN

Yeah, exactly. So anyway, thanks for staying with us. Until then, we'll see you next time.

CRAIG

See ya!

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