Show notes

In this episode Craig and Kevin talk about all of the crazy things happening at their homes. There will be future episodes on many of these things, so this is just a teaser. From remodels to new appliances, we have a lot to cover.

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KEVIN

This is episode number 157 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Greg Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're glad that you could join us tonight for this live episode of The Homeowner Show from The Homeowner Show Studios. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

Man, I'm fantastic.

CRAIG

You're all smooth.

KEVIN

Running— if you want to look at this, here it is. I told you it was coming.

CRAIG

Football season is here.

KEVIN

Yep. I told you it was coming. There's the—

CRAIG

Dadgummit.

KEVIN

I knew it was coming. I was waiting.

CRAIG

I didn't do it. I took it out.

KEVIN

Yeah. So, uh, yeah, it's just—

CRAIG

Audio engineers at their best. Well, and it's, it's not like we haven't done this 157 times.

KEVIN

Exactly. But yeah, I told you it was coming. Um, I did, I did not show you. It's on my phone, which is used, being used as camera, but I did take the picture. Oh, that you told me, the fisticuffs picture.

CRAIG

Oh, did you really?

KEVIN

Oh dude, you gotta share that. I, I know it's just on my phone and, but it is, uh, I showed your dad and he was like, dude, that's good.

CRAIG

That, it was good.

KEVIN

Yeah, it was.

CRAIG

I was impressed when you called me.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so like you FaceTimed me.

KEVIN

Yeah, I had to show someone.

CRAIG

Immediately started laughing.

KEVIN

Yeah, you did.

CRAIG

It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So did you keep it the rest of the day like we talked?

KEVIN

Well, that was the plan. And my wife saw me and threatened my life.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

If I didn't shave it off before I left. I've met your wife, dude.

CRAIG

She ain't taking nobody's life.

KEVIN

You've not seen my wife at her Fiercest. Uh huh. Um, I think she can get angry, but I mean, let's just put it this way: I would have been miserable for a while.

CRAIG

How long?

KEVIN

It was not worth it.

CRAIG

How long?

KEVIN

Long enough.

CRAIG

Let's let's run the numbers.

KEVIN

Probably a week.

CRAIG

That's worth it.

KEVIN

No, not worth it. Not worth it.

CRAIG

She can't hang in there for a week. I think I and I can confidently say that because she never listens to this.

KEVIN

Well, that's true. She's not gonna hear this.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

There's no way. She's listened to less episodes than your wife.

CRAIG

That's probably accurate. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So what else has been going on, man?

KEVIN

Oh, man.

CRAIG

So other than Smooth Kevin being back.

KEVIN

Well, I had—

CRAIG

can we, can we actually, can we officially title Smooth Kevin? Smooth Kevin? I mean, it lasts like 3 months of the year, right?

KEVIN

It's here for just long enough to— I don't care.

CRAIG

It's your alter ego.

KEVIN

Yeah, I don't care. Okay, whatever.

CRAIG

You should hashtag that. When you post the picture.

KEVIN

Well, I will tell you this, like, so since the beginning of the year, I've lost over 30 pounds. And so—

CRAIG

Not just in mustache.

KEVIN

Well, that's the thing is, uh, I was wondering this week how much, whenever I shaved it off, I got a picture of it like all in the sink. It's right, yeah, half the sink is full. Um, but, uh, it did shock me a little bit. My face is a little slimmer than it was the last time I had Clean-shaven.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

So yeah, it's good stuff.

CRAIG

So nice.

KEVIN

Anyway, uh, I, uh, you asked me what's going on. I mean, there's, there's a lot, dude. So, so tonight, in tonight's episode, we're, we're just gonna kind of talk through some different things going on at our house.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Because we've got a lot of interesting new things happening, or, or maybe just crap happening.

CRAIG

And, uh, there's definitely some crap.

KEVIN

Yeah. And so we're gonna talk about it.

CRAIG

So yeah, so the, the idea here is like Kevin and I get inspiration for content for you guys from stuff that happens to us a lot of times.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so good, good, bad, ugly, like we want to share it with you guys. And so like my list was getting pretty deep. You had a couple things going on at your place and we're like, man, these are, these are episodes that are coming up. We're going to be talking about this kind of stuff. And so we want to just give like a little teaser. Yeah. As to what's coming down the pipe. Um, for the show, because there's stuff we're going to be wanting to talk about. And so if you could, if you're listening on Facebook Live, just in the comments, like, you know, tell us which one is more interesting to you so we get to that one first.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Now some of them have, you know, calendar issues with them. We can't talk about them until they're finished, or they haven't started yet, but we know that they're in the pipeline, that stuff's happening at our houses. And, and so we want to be able to get that stuff out to you. So be sure and tell us which one is most interesting to you, because we want to be able to bring in on the best experts and, and the people that have the most knowledge to talk about these kinds of things so that we can bring you the best information.

KEVIN

Right. Yeah. And, uh, there's a lot here, man. There's a lot here. And I know between what you've got and what I've got, there is plenty of stuff to talk about for a while. And we got some other really cool episodes, uh, coming up as well. Um, in fact, I just got a reply from Solo Stove, uh-huh, uh, about doing an episode, um, kind of on that, on that product. Um, I don't know if we're gonna get one from their company on or not, but we'll be able to, you know, share their content and, and what that thing's about. It's, it's kinda like this, it's a smokeless fireplace.

CRAIG

Fireplace. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. It's awesome.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So there's, there's a lot of other things we've got coming. So anyway, this is kind of a preview episode if nothing else.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Absolutely. Well, and, and, and to add onto that, so we've got Solo Stove. We also have a rep from Pickle coming in. Pickle is a new home automation app for your home.

KEVIN

We also— And it tastes really good.

CRAIG

Fire and Ice pickles?

KEVIN

Come on. I've not tried Fire and Ice Pickles.

CRAIG

Are you kidding me?

KEVIN

I don't even know what that is, but I'll tell you this, I've got some pretty amazing pickles that I love.

CRAIG

Well, dude, you haven't lived until you've had Fire and Ice Pickles.

KEVIN

Well, tell me about them real quick.

CRAIG

It's sweet and spicy.

KEVIN

Okay, I love that.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, like—

KEVIN

I mean, I've got, I've got, uh, my favorite one is called a Sweet Jalapeño that I've got at my house right now.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Is that the same thing, or is Fire and Ice a specific brand?

CRAIG

Uh, Fire and Ice is a specific flavor. I think there's a couple different brands that do that flavor.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, I mean, yeah, you can, you can usually find it at the store, maybe top shelf. It's kinda like where they put the good booze.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

You know, top shelf.

KEVIN

Right up there.

CRAIG

Okay. Yeah.

KEVIN

I'm, I'm there, man.

CRAIG

Yeah. My wife is watching and she's actually celebrating your face.

KEVIN

Whoa. So she does hate facial hair.

CRAIG

She does hate facial hair. She married the right guy.

KEVIN

That's right. So that's true.

CRAIG

Because it ain't ever happening.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

And I've looked into it, like the supplements, they're not worth it.

KEVIN

Well, I mean, there's even like vitamins you can take just to, you know, help, but like they don't. I'll tell you right now, it don't help that much, really.

CRAIG

So what's the— the new ones are the— what is it, Keeps?

KEVIN

I have no idea.

CRAIG

It's like a new hair treatment. So let me tell you the rationale I've landed on with this.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I would be too handsome. It's God's way of just, you know, keeping the ego in check.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness. So that I—

CRAIG

look at—

KEVIN

let's find out.

CRAIG

Look right here, with a beard. Are you kidding me? It's unstoppable.

KEVIN

Oh, it's a stopgap at your house, I'll tell you that.

CRAIG

It would definitely stop some things.

KEVIN

Yeah. So anyway, so why don't we start off with you? Um, tell us something that you're going to be, uh, talking about in the future at your house?

CRAIG

Well, so right off the bat, we can, we can talk about— let me see if I can pull this up real quick. There we go. So I wanna give a shout out to Billy Myers.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

He owns Mack Property Services because he just finished a project I've been waiting to get done for like 2 years. So I just tagged him in the comments to make sure that he, he sees this. But we— the jagweed that worked on our house last time.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Didn't finish. And I had to call him back like 3 times for like some big things that he didn't finish, but there was a couple little things that he didn't finish that he said he was gonna finish.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I'm not a jerk customer. I just like you to do what you say you're gonna do.

KEVIN

Oh, that's, that's really not all that unreasonable. No.

CRAIG

So this guy had left grout. So he had unevenly placed a piece of tile. Okay. And I had called him out and said, look, man, this piece of tile's uneven. It's actually at the edge of the stairs. So we need to change that piece of tile out or relevel it. So you need to get all the grout out in order to change the tile piece. Sure. He didn't have to— he, he didn't have to cut the tile. He just ended up being able to pry it out and relevel it, and it looked fine.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And he's like, I'm gonna have to come back in a few days and regrout it. No problem.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Also downstairs where he built a false wall for me, he was supposed to finish a Uh, well, actually, that's, that's not true. That's not on him. That one was on me. It— we, we had decided to finish the shiplap wall on our, on our own, and I got into a project that was just over my head. So Billy came in and, and helped me finish that one out. It was a shiplap wall that I didn't want— there was supposed to be a closet entrance. I just didn't want to have like a normal door.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So he built me a door out of shiplap. So it just looks like shiplap, and you press on it, it's a magnetic release, and it just opens. It's kind of like a hidden door.

KEVIN

Perfect.

CRAIG

So, but anyway, this, this tile thing, it's been sitting there like that for 2 years because after like day like 25 of ghosting me, like he's just, he's just not picking up the phone, he's not responding to text messages, he's not responding to Facebook messages. And he's like, that's his way of telling me, I'm done with you.

KEVIN

I'm not coming back.

CRAIG

I'm not coming back.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And he's got all my money at that point.

KEVIN

Jeez.

CRAIG

Um, because I'm a nice guy, I knew he needed to pay the guys that worked for him, but he just, you know, just wasn't honoring his work.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So anyway, Um, Billy came out and Billy is awesome because he is extremely meticulous. So you, like, if you live in the Montgomery, Conroe, Spring, Woodlands area and you need things done around your house, like done where like they look right and they're meticulous and well done, like he did the whole thing. Like he gave me the quote, he gave me the quote included materials, and even when his materials didn't work out, he went back and got the materials that he needed and didn't charge me extra. He actually charged me less than what he said he was gonna charge me.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

I mean, he was just, he was just so awesome to work with. And he's, he's so laid back and just kind. I mean, he's just a good guy to work with. So anyway, good, good guy to work with. Uh, hope lots of people give him a call if they, if they need some projects done, right? 'Cause he, I mean, he did my closet. My, my wife is so happy just with that one tile at the top of our kitchen.

KEVIN

I bet.

CRAIG

So, which, I mean, like, you've, you've been to our kitchen. It's like that, that one tile at the top of the stairs, it had no grout in it.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

It hasn't for like a year and a half. Right.

KEVIN

And, and it's, Probably just something that I mean probably didn't take him all that long to fix, but no.

CRAIG

But I mean it's just it's just not something I can I can do it, but it wouldn't look as good as if he did it right, and I'd rather it look good.

KEVIN

Absolutely. So yeah, no, I don't blame you. But but there was a specific reason that he was here beyond like fixing some of those things, right?

CRAIG

No, I mean like that was the primary reason.

KEVIN

Oh, that was it. Okay.

CRAIG

But while he was here, some stuff happened that he's now having to quote me.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

To repair.

KEVIN

Yeah. Because you, you had a little bit of an issue. Yeah. So do you wanna talk about that now?

CRAIG

We can. Okay. I mean, like, why not? It ties in cuz he's, he's gonna be, he's gonna be doing the work on that. Yeah. So I'm trying to think of the best way to describe this. I mean, because most, if you listen to the show on a regular basis, at this point, you know, my kitchen's weird.

KEVIN

No, no, no, no. That's not true. Uh-huh. Your house is weird.

CRAIG

My house is weird.

KEVIN

And your kitchen is part of the reason that your kitchen is weird.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Semantics matter.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

My kitchen, my kitchen's on the second and a half floor. Right. Which to most people, like, when they hear that, they're just, oh.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, it's not that big a deal.

KEVIN

It's really not.

CRAIG

My calves are amazing.

KEVIN

I'll be the judge of that. Not right now, though.

CRAIG

Megan is saying she can't hear any audio. Let me see if I can turn it up for you, Megan. Yeah.

KEVIN

Let me check it out.

CRAIG

Are you— anything coming through now?

KEVIN

Let us know.

CRAIG

Definitely give us feedback on the audio and video. But let me see if I can turn this up some.

KEVIN

Yeah, we— I mean, we want her to hear this because she's gonna be—

CRAIG

She's gonna be— yeah, absolutely.

KEVIN

So yeah, figure out what's going on. Let me see here, just give me a second. Well, so, uh, so while he's doing that, I will say that, um, this— what has happened at your house is directly related to how weird your house is, although it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that this would happen in someone else's home, right?

CRAIG

No, I mean, because— not at all.

KEVIN

I mean, because the reality of it is there's a lot of people that have multiple stories in their home and something like this could happen, right?

CRAIG

Yeah, absolutely. So I, I adjusted the audio. If you guys are out there listening right now, uh, we got— looks like we got 5 or 6 people listening. If you can, you know, shoot me a thumbs up Or what are the other ones? Send me an angry face if the audio is bad. That's fine. We'll take angry faces.

KEVIN

Yeah, it definitely got louder in my ears. So I don't know.

CRAIG

Yeah. So it looks like it's coming through here. So that's, you know, we're always wanting to improve the quality of our audience's experience.

KEVIN

That's right. That's right. So thanks for kind of hanging with us as we make the adjustments on the old audio.

CRAIG

All right.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

Megan, feel free to— yeah, absolutely. Feel free to catch up on the replay on the audio.

KEVIN

Yeah, but hopefully, hopefully, uh, I mean, it's— we are recording the audio well for the podcast.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

But this is for Facebook that she's talking about. Absolutely.

CRAIG

So hopefully, you know, definitely let us know how it's going over there because we want to make sure that's the highest quality possible. And we don't know because we can't listen to it until after the show.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

So where were we?

KEVIN

Well, you were telling us a little bit about what happened, second and a half floor, all that jazz.

CRAIG

Oh yeah. So my wife calls me and says like, we've got water on the first floor. And I'm like, what do you mean you got water on the first floor? Like, the only thing down there is the bathroom and the laundry room. Yeah, right. So, and then she's like, well, there's water in the living room. Oh, I'm like, okay, where's it coming from? She's like, I don't know.

KEVIN

Well, that's not good.

CRAIG

So we do have sort of like a semi-attic on the first floor.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Which again, with there being 3 stories, I understand that that's weird. It's actually the void between the first floor and the kitchen.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Because the kitchen's on the second half floor.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Uh, it's where all the, uh, the— what is that part of the air conditioner that's inside?

KEVIN

The ducting?

CRAIG

Well, there's ducting, but there's also like the heating.

KEVIN

Oh, the furnace.

CRAIG

The furnace.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So anyway, I'm like, okay, we'll make sure that like the AC condensate isn't overflowing, right? Because if so, we'll call Jehu.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Um, and we'll get that under control.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

So the bad part about all that was, is these ceilings downstairs we had just had redone at the same time as everything else, right? And it was all beadboard. Well, beadboard doesn't respond to water very well.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So now on my first floor, there's this giant bubble of wood.

KEVIN

Oh geez.

CRAIG

So the, the upside is the way that they installed it, it's a full panel.

KEVIN

Oh, that's good.

CRAIG

So there you go, because they just put full sheets up, right? Well, basically, specifically where the water was hitting, this one was a full panel.

KEVIN

Perfect.

CRAIG

So all they have to do is take the trim down, put a brand new panel back up, and then, you know, re-caulk all the trim.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So I mean, like, no cuts Nothing. I mean, unless maybe they, you know, inadvertently, uh, damage one of the trim pieces or something. Sure, should be an easy fix. Yeah. So, uh, so we had to get a bid for that. We— someone kicked a hole in our downstairs sheetrock in our mudroom.

KEVIN

That doesn't sound like one of your children.

CRAIG

Uh, yeah. And then, uh, we never finished the ceiling in our bathroom.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Which part of the reason we didn't finish it is because what we wanted was a really expensive option, which is tin tile.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, that stuff is pretty cool though in the right setting. Yes, pretty cool.

CRAIG

Yeah, it's fantastic looking. Um, and actually, uh, Brandy Banks actually showed me the place. I mean, she's got some really cool stuff in her house. Yeah. And she was— she showed me the website where— I forget what it's called. I'll have to look at— I've got it saved on my phone. Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, and it's, it's Burke now.

CRAIG

Oh, Brandy Banks.

KEVIN

Yeah, sorry, sorry, Brandy. I blame Craig.

CRAIG

Burke Plumbing.

KEVIN

That's right, Ryan Burke. Give me— oh, now they get— okay, everything's better because we've now given a shout out.

CRAIG

All the shout outs have been given.

KEVIN

That's right.

CRAIG

So anyway, so she showed me the— and this is the, the, the tin. They actually put this tin tile on the, uh, bar to their kitchen. Oh nice, on the underside. Yeah, it's really cool looking. Yeah, I bet. So, and they're actually building houses now.

KEVIN

Did you know that? They are.

CRAIG

Yeah. Custom, yeah.

KEVIN

Custom, custom built homes.

CRAIG

But when they didn't quit the other stuff, but they're building houses on top.

KEVIN

Yeah, exactly. And I mean, you know, you know Ryan.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

He loves designing.

CRAIG

I would trust him to build everything in my house.

KEVIN

I would too.

CRAIG

Yeah. That guy is crazy thorough. Yep. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Anyway, so Billy's gotta come, he's gotta send us a quote for all that kind of stuff cuz it all happened like while he was there and I was like, well, Billy, Send me the quote.

KEVIN

Mm-hmm.

CRAIG

Because I don't wanna do it.

KEVIN

Right. No, I mean, that—

CRAIG

nor do I have the skill to do much of any of it.

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, you, again, go back to the DIY calculator that's on our website.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

At, you know, homeownershow.com. Find the DIY calculator. You can find out exactly why you don't wanna do it. And it's somewhere in there about the, do I want to do this? Yeah.

CRAIG

Do I want to?

KEVIN

Yeah. The do I want to is gonna make it cost a lot more money.

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

That's right. Yeah.

CRAIG

So anyway. So anyway, those— so all that to say, the leak came from my kitchen, from my dishwasher.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So upon inspection, the frame on my dishwasher had cracked.

KEVIN

That's, that's insane.

CRAIG

On the bottom.

KEVIN

Yeah, and so that's a, you know, it's a plastic frame on the bottom.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

This one.

CRAIG

Yeah. Yeah. Which was kind of a blessing because had it cracked on top, it would've been a slow leak that happened over time. and would have— could have potentially caused like a lot of mold and mildew in the kitchen.

KEVIN

Good point.

CRAIG

Um, so which leads us into the— it's not a blessing because, you know, we went— one, like, I'm glad Megan chimed in because we interviewed her not too long ago about appliances. Appliances are hard to get right now, especially the nice ones.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So now you can walk— if you're not choosy or picky like me, um, you know, like we went to Best Buy on—

KEVIN

what was that?

CRAIG

I guess it was Saturday. And they had tons of models out on the floor that were as-is, uh, models that people had bought and then returned, right? That they just needed to unload. The prices were great. They were there and available, right? None of them— I know I'm weird. I like having the same brand of all my appliances in my kitchen.

KEVIN

I don't think that's weird. I just think that's being consistent. I, you know, I mean, I, I don't think it's weird at all. I, not only that, I'll take it a step further. I don't only want the same brand, I want the same model.

CRAIG

Like, like you want the package.

KEVIN

Yeah. Like, so for example, we in our house just happen to have, uh, the Frigidaire Gallery style.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

And all because they handle the same, they do look different. They do. The handles are different. The buttons are different. The, the colors, like maybe there's more stainless or more black. black or, or whatever, they, they do, they look different. So if you want a consistent look, you need the same one. So I get it. Yeah. I don't think that's weird.

CRAIG

Yeah. And, and like, and so, well, the ones that we like are typically KitchenAid.

KEVIN

Okay, sure.

CRAIG

We design, we actually designed our kitchen around our KitchenAid mixer.

KEVIN

Oh, nice.

CRAIG

We have like this real pale teal green KitchenAid mixer that we designed our kitchen around that mixer.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and anyway, so when we went to look, I was like, well, I want the KitchenAid.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, it's just what I want.

KEVIN

Right. And get what you want.

CRAIG

So we had to go to like 3 stores and even to find a company that could even get it to us.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So the conundrum we're in right now is we're having to wait till September 11th for our dishwasher to get in.

KEVIN

So, you know, that's a, that's a really big anniversary.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

20th anniversary.

CRAIG

That is a big anniversary.

KEVIN

It is.

CRAIG

Ready?

KEVIN

Keep going.

CRAIG

Anyway, we, uh, So we're having to wait till September 11th, and it may not even come in at September 11th, which—

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

If it doesn't come in at September 11th, it may make some other decisions easier, because starting September 30th, all of our cabinets in our kitchen are being completely rebuilt.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

So we're gonna have to run the gamut of, should we install the dishwasher before they start on the cabinets, or should we let the cabinet guys build the dishwasher around the new cabinets? I'm inclined to say let's let them build around the dishwasher.

KEVIN

Yeah. Um, I mean, that's what I would do if I had the choice, right? That's what I would do. But there's a 20-day difference after already being without for about 20 days.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's a, that's a, that's a lot. That's like the amount of time someone might have been on like a big boat. Just saying.

CRAIG

So it, you know, and so in perspective, you know, like 20 days, that's not that much in terms of thinking about, well, this dishwasher should last me 10 years.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I can go 20 days washing my own dishes.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

No big deal.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

Whether or not I feel like that at the end of the 20 days, right, this is a different story.

KEVIN

It's like, how many paper plates can I buy?

CRAIG

Yeah, a lot. A lot.

KEVIN

They're readily available.

CRAIG

They are.

KEVIN

And that might be a really good option.

CRAIG

Well, let me, let me add this in there. I hate paper plates.

KEVIN

I do too.

CRAIG

I despise them.

KEVIN

There's not any that are really good. No, there's not any that are good. Even the plastic ones suck. Yeah.

CRAIG

I don't, I don't like any of 'em.

KEVIN

No, I don't either.

CRAIG

Screw you, paper plates.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

We don't like you.

KEVIN

Nope.

CRAIG

We never will.

KEVIN

Nope.

CRAIG

So don't even try and buy ad space on this show.

KEVIN

I want the porcelain.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Give it to me every time.

KEVIN

So I'll tell you this, uh, speaking of appliances, um, so the, one of the most difficult appliances to get during the pandemic, mm-hmm, was a freezer.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and not just freezer, there are fridges and different things like that, but freezer specifically Because here's what happened. Just shortly, well, no, about the same time that there was this shortage of toilet paper.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

There was a shortage of food.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

If you remember, and specifically a shortage of meat.

CRAIG

Uh-huh.

KEVIN

Because people were buying all the meat off the shelves. And I think they walked by the toilet paper and went, you know what we're gonna need if we eat this much meat?

CRAIG

A lot of toilet paper. A lot of toilet paper.

KEVIN

And so they buy, they buy like, you know, half of a cow And then they go home and they go, well, crap, we don't have anywhere to put this half of a cow. We gotta buy a new freezer. So everybody went out, bought all the freezers that were on the shelves, and then all of a sudden, no more freezers. So what do you gotta do? You gotta import new freezers because most of those things are made overseas and nothing was being imported for a while.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

And, and the ones that weren't being imported, they're, you know, manufactured here in the USA. Those factories were shut down. And so you literally could not get a freezer. Like, people were selling like these mini freezes, you know, that are half the size of a freezer for like $1,500.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And people were buying them just because you didn't have any other option, right? Um, so anyway, We just, I don't know, 6 months into the pandemic, our freezer went out. Of course it did. And so we thankfully had this little chest freezer and we loaded everything up in that, but it was time to buy a new freezer. And we decided that we would. And so we did. Megan Anderson from Renova Appliances, I called her and I was like, hey, what do y'all have anything? So. I, I, man, it was awesome. She was able to get me a slightly larger freezer and a brand that I actually preferred over what was at like Home Depot.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And it was about $10 cheaper. And, uh, I mean, the only difference was I had to pay for shipping as opposed to free shipping.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And when it all came down to it, it was like, okay, I know I'm gonna get a lot better customer service.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And I, you know, I know that they don't put junk appliances into customers' homes.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

And so I, I just felt really, really good about the whole process. And so, um, I'm excited to— look, we'll do a whole episode probably just kind of reviewing that and, and the process that took me to get it in and all that kind of stuff. But like, I, I was just super excited to finally have a stand-up freezer again because the other one was a chest freezer. And if you've ever had a chest freezer, they're, they're booger to get stuff in and out. You don't ever know what's in there. Yeah. I mean, it's like, okay, there's stuff at the bottom, but do I really want to go after it? Like, yeah, that's going to be a chore.

CRAIG

And I was at it. I was at a dude's house not too long ago and he had an ice cream freezer in his garage full of deer meat.

KEVIN

Oh, wow. I mean, that's, that's what this was. It was an ice cream freezer, right? As I say, a chest freezer, but it's an ice cream freezer with the, with the glass tops. Yeah.

CRAIG

And it slides back and forth.

KEVIN

That's exactly what this is.

CRAIG

Which was cool. What was cool about that is it did have the glass top. Oh, you know, so you could see through and you see what's in there unless it got a little foggy.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, but, but yeah, so I mean, like, it was, it was just, but like, it had like still all the ice cream logo and stuff on the outside. And I was like, dude, you, you bought out like some old, like beat up, uh, gas station freezer.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which probably works fine. I mean, it was working fine when I saw it.

KEVIN

I mean, the one we had worked fine. Um, I'm gonna probably try to, you know, just slum it off on someone at this point.

CRAIG

But, um, oh, you still have it?

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, it's still in my garage right now, uh, just because, I mean, I literally got the freezer in on Saturday, I think it was. No, no, Thursday. It was a Thursday.

CRAIG

Thursday? Like this past Thursday? Yeah.

KEVIN

Okay. Um, and so yeah, it just barely got full.

CRAIG

I imagine there's a lot of people mad at me. I have a stand-up upright freezer. I've had it it for, gosh, 4 or 5 years now. I've never used it as a freezer.

KEVIN

Wow, just sitting out there?

CRAIG

No, I, uh, so I, I put a temp control on it to where it would only regulate the temperature at 72 degrees.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I was using it as a fermenter.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

So, because you can, you can get these temperature regulators, I mean, they're like $20.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I mean, just, you've got to buy a box to put them in. It's, it's real easy.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, like, if you have any simple understanding of electronics, you can put it together. Yeah. It's way cheaper than buying one assembled.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

So, and you just put a temperature monitor on the inside of the freezer, and it's a power control that you plug the freezer into.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

It only turns it on when it gets below— I mean, when it gets above 72 degrees.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

So it's great for fermenting.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

You know. Stuff?

KEVIN

Beer. Yeah, that stuff.

CRAIG

And sauerkraut. Not that I would ever do that.

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

Kimchi.

KEVIN

I was wondering why you were— okay, dude, do you like kimchi? I, I've eaten it. It's not my favorite thing. Okay, I mean, I've eaten it, so— but I don't know why you would go through the process of doing that when you could buy it.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, well, to be fair, the way that you ferment kimchi is you actually bury it.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

In the ground.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah, I've never actually done it, but I would like to. Interesting. Sounds like a fun adventure.

KEVIN

Speaking of burying things, um, I had a problem at my house recently that involved something buried. Pipe.

CRAIG

A pipe?

KEVIN

Yeah, so I had to get Speaking of Burke, I had to get Burke out, um, because we had this weird thing going on, um, in my house where the, the— so we got 2, 2 sinks in the bathroom, the master— excuse me, the primary bathroom.

CRAIG

Primary bathroom.

KEVIN

Um, and you turn the hot water on and it would just, uh, it, it rattled like it, like it had knocking sound.

CRAIG

Oh.

KEVIN

And, uh, what was interesting is I just happened to see, uh, Ryan out at a burger place one day. I was like, dude, like after the freeze, we had this weird thing going on. Like the, the, the faucet's like knocking whenever we turn the hot water on. He goes, huh.

CRAIG

Just left it there.

KEVIN

And I was like, well, what, what do you think it is? He goes, well, does it do it on the other faucet? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, huh, yeah, that doesn't sound good. I was like, oh, it's never okay whenever your plumber says that doesn't sound good, right? And so, uh, that was one thing, like, because I, I don't really use the hot water at my faucet, but my wife does, uh, to, you know, wash her face at night, whatever. And, um, maybe you should try that. Hot water is not gonna help this. It's just not.

CRAIG

Well, not the look, but the smell.

KEVIN

Yeah, I've done it.

CRAIG

There's a reason we keep a 6-foot distance in the studio. It ain't because of COVID No, that's true.

KEVIN

Um, and so the other thing is, from time to time— this only happened like, I don't know, once every week and a half or 2 weeks— uh, where we'd be washing dishes, uh, in the sink and And the water would start backing up into the sink.

CRAIG

Oh.

KEVIN

But it would only happen from time to time. So we had to get him out for, for both of those things. Turns out that the, the bathroom problem, he fixed— they fixed in 3 minutes.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Uh, apparently the water coming into the hot water, the valve wasn't opened all the way.

CRAIG

Oh.

KEVIN

And apparently some debris had gotten—

CRAIG

So it was clogged.

KEVIN

It was clogged. And so they actually, the first thing they said was, is it one faucet or 2? Right? Because apparently that's what happens whenever your faucet isn't getting water to it, it knocks.

CRAIG

Hmm.

KEVIN

And so if you ever have a knocking, uh, faucet, you, first of all, you need to take the aerator off of it. Oh, okay. Which is the little screw.

CRAIG

Lets the debris out.

KEVIN

Yeah. And it lets the debris out. And so typically you'll have water flowing after that.

CRAIG

So most people don't know that that's even there, let alone that they can take it off.

KEVIN

Right. And it, I mean, I guess it's valuable. Um, most plumbers hate it because that's the fix to a lot of things. Uh, but yeah, clean that thing out every 6 months or so. But they, once, once they opened it, there was then a lot of debris that had got into the faucet aerator. So they cleaned that out. Problem fixed.

CRAIG

Nice.

KEVIN

Voilà. And then they had to run a snake down the, uh, the sink drain and they ran it like, they ran 75 feet of snake out. Oh my gosh. Just to do it. Um, but they found something. It wasn't anything huge, but it was something blocking somewhere, probably in the bathroom.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Kids probably used too much toilet paper or something. And, um, but anyway, we had— yeah, probably knowing my cousin, my son.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Uh, so anyway, it was, it was like a $200 bill.

CRAIG

Okay. That's not bad.

KEVIN

But the service fee is $125 just to get them out.

CRAIG

Just to, yeah.

KEVIN

And then the, the, the snake was $75. They didn't even charge me to do anything with the, with the bathroom. But I, I was sitting here going, please take my money. 'Cause I thought you were gonna have to cut my wall open to fix this knocking. I was like, please just take my money and leave for $200. I'm so happy right now.

CRAIG

I know.

KEVIN

You know, it's weird. to be happy about $200.

CRAIG

Well, when you're expecting thousands.

KEVIN

I was.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. But I was like, this is, I mean, and I had put it off since the freeze, which was February. I'd put it off that long cuz I was like, I don't wanna know.

CRAIG

It's been happening that long.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Oh my gosh.

KEVIN

Yeah. And so we hadn't had hot water in our bathroom since shortly after the freeze. And, and I bet it was the freeze that did it.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

Because whenever you turn your water off out on at the street and you turn it back on, Stuff breaks loose and stuff happens, you know.

CRAIG

Glue breaks loose.

KEVIN

That's right. We've got galvanized pipe at my house. So yeah, that's a mistake.

CRAIG

It is.

KEVIN

Whoever thought that stuff was the best is the worst.

CRAIG

I, I will tell you, it's not difficult to convert your house to PEX these days.

KEVIN

No, it's really not.

CRAIG

I mean, most plumbers can knock it out in a day.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Which is impressive.

KEVIN

Yeah. And, and, and really it winds up being cheaper than alternative Like regular pipe because just the labor is so much less expensive.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

The PEX is a lot more expensive, but the labor is a lot less expensive.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So yeah, done easily.

CRAIG

Have you got anything else going on at your house?

KEVIN

No, actually those were the 2 biggest things with the plumbing and the freezer. And, and I'm sure there's some other things that I did have to, uh, like clean out my sump pump the other day, which was kind of a nasty job. The one on the porch? Yeah.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Uh, but, um, That was no big deal.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

I used my Shop-Vac.

CRAIG

Well, so, 'cause I'm gonna run through my list of stuff that we're probably gonna be talking about.

KEVIN

Yep. Run through it quick. Yeah.

CRAIG

Just so, I mean, like, just, and, and let us know which one sounds more interesting to you guys so we, you know, we can categorize them. So one, we wanna give a report on my DIY pool, uh, pool heater.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And how that's doing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so we'll, we'll give an update on that. Uh, we're gonna do, we're probably gonna do an episode on my new cabinets.

KEVIN

Mm-hmm.

CRAIG

Uh, which really just means that Craig's wife is happy.

KEVIN

That's— yeah, you know, between my face and your cabinets, she's good.

CRAIG

Yep, as long as she sees that. Um, so one of the things that has absolutely changed my world over the past 2 months is automatic watering for a lot of the animals on the property.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

Um, and so I've been testing several different models, and I just got some new ones in for the horse stalls, which I'm excited 'Cause I'm gonna have to do some plumbing in order to install them. 'Cause they have to be, they have to be, you know, I hate to use this word 'cause it's not electricity, but hardwired in to the water line in order to use them. So those actually just came in yesterday.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And then my garage gutting and remodel is in progress at the moment.

KEVIN

Okay. It looks pretty awesome.

CRAIG

I'm excited.

KEVIN

It's coming together.

CRAIG

I will, I will tell you, my mindset on this has been, I have hated my garage since I moved into this place. Absolutely hated it. I hated it that stuff was everywhere. I hated it the way that it was set up.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

I hated the way that it looked. Yep. I hated the way that it felt. Uh-huh. I hated the way that the lights were set up. And so I was like, you know what, if you hate something, This much, fix it, get rid of it.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

So I threw out an 18-foot flatbed trailer worth of stuff that I didn't need anymore, nor did any human being need, right? So I gutted all that. I kept all the stuff I absolutely had to keep, and I gutted it. And I'm currently in the process of putting up new interior walls and lighting, and it probably would be further along right now except I got a little bit of the sniffles this weekend. And couldn't work.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, but on top of that, uh, my wife just bought me some new storage cabinets. Oh, for the garage, which I'm super excited about because they're big, they're heavy, they're metal, and they're on casters.

KEVIN

Oh, that sounds awesome. I love those things. Yes. Are they— did she get 'em from like Sam's?

CRAIG

No, she ordered 'em on Amazon.

KEVIN

Oh really? 'Cause I know they have some at Sam's, but, but they're— these are probably better.

CRAIG

I don't know. I, I'll, I'll give a full report once I get them put together. They just, I mean, like they literally showed up in my driveway today.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

All 300 pounds of them.

KEVIN

Gee whiz.

CRAIG

And do you have a dolly? I do. Good.

KEVIN

I do.

CRAIG

Good. So, but like when I, when I, when I was making my list for tonight to talk about the different things that we're gonna be talking about on the show coming up, I was like, I started getting overwhelmed. I was like, oh my gosh. Like, and that's not even all the stuff I have to do on my property. That, right. I still need to mow.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And that's not even on the list.

KEVIN

Nope.

CRAIG

And it's not even all the things. Like, I have, I have lights on my wraparound porch that need to be changed out. Mm-hmm. Changing light bulbs in my house is an adventure.

KEVIN

Takes time.

CRAIG

Yeah. So, I mean, like, there's, it's not all the stuff, but those are just the big projects that we're probably gonna be talking about on the show. Yeah. But yeah, so thank you. Thank you guys for listening to this episode. We're glad that you could join us. Please hit the subscribe, the notification bell, the follow, the subscribe, the, what are the other buttons, Kev?

KEVIN

I mean, you hit most of them.

CRAIG

Does your goofy podcast app have a weird button?

KEVIN

No, no, it's a regular button. What's the button? It's a subscribe button.

CRAIG

It's just subscribe? It's not like a thumbs up or a—

KEVIN

No, subscribe.

CRAIG

Okay. And leave a review. Yeah, let us know.

KEVIN

That's probably one of the best things you can do. But after you subscribe, go leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts. That would be fantastic. Thank you for doing that. And we We do. We really, really appreciate you guys listening and tuning in. So yeah, we're here each and every Tuesday, and until next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya.

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