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Grill Rescue Review

In this episode, Craig and Kevin review the Grill Rescue barbecue grill cleaning brush. Developed by a firefighter, this grill brush is really quite amazing. We give you all the details and our opinions. We also talk about Craig’s recent trip to Kalahari Resort in Round Roc, TX.

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KEVIN

This is episode number 229 of The Homeowner's Show. Whether you're DIY or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Greg Williams.

CRAIG

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner's Show. We're so glad you could join us for another episode here in the studio.

KEVIN

How you doing, Kevin? Great. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it is— it— today's a good day. Every day is a good day. Uh-huh. But I'm, I'm a little tired. Yeah, but it's fine. I'm, I'm fine. Everything's good. Life is good. The weather outside is phenomenal.

CRAIG

Dude, the weather today was fantastic.

KEVIN

I just— I'm so happy about all of that.

CRAIG

Like, I think I got to be in it maybe an hour today.

KEVIN

And that was about it. Like, part of the thing that I love about it right now is that it gets down into like the, the high 40s, low 50s. And in the daytime, it's like 70.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It's perfect.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It's like so good.

CRAIG

Middle of the afternoon today, I think it was like 66 degrees.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And I was loving it.

KEVIN

It was so nice. But anyway, I'm good. How are you, man?

CRAIG

Good, man. Like, we, uh, we, we just got back from a trip that you've taken.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

To the Kalahari Resort.

KEVIN

Oh, dude.

CRAIG

So that—

KEVIN

so we did that for— it was just like last August for my daughter's 10th birthday.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So we've been pretty recently. Yeah.

CRAIG

So have you just, just went the once?

KEVIN

Yeah. Well, we've been to Great Wolf Lodge, which is a similar experience.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Only it's like a completely different theme. Yeah. And frankly, it's not as big. Like, Kalahari is a lot larger. Uh-huh. And it covers more real estate.

CRAIG

And it does cover more real estate.

KEVIN

There's more stuff. It's, it's the one that we were in was, in Waco, you know, that area.

CRAIG

The, the Great Wolf Lodge?

KEVIN

Yeah. No. No. No. The Kalahari.

CRAIG

Well, it's Round Rock.

KEVIN

Round Rock. Okay.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Round Rock. Yeah. So it was in that Austin area and is a lot newer than the—

CRAIG

Oh, yeah.

KEVIN

It's only—

CRAIG

I think it's less than 2 years old.

KEVIN

Yeah. Exactly. And so it's, it's still got the, the shine on it. So—

CRAIG

For sure.

KEVIN

It's— it— we loved it. I'm curious to hear what your thoughts were. Yeah.

CRAIG

And like, I mean, if you're going to compare it to Great Wolf Lodge, yeah, it is. It's bigger than Great Wolf Lodge. Yeah. There were some of the rides at Great Wolf Lodge I like better than I do at Kalahari.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

I just thought they were a little, a little more exciting. Okay. But I mean, there's more rides at Kalahari and the rides there are plenty exciting for like little kids. Right.

KEVIN

Well, let's take a step back. Like, some of these listeners may be like, what are you talking about? So tell people what it is.

CRAIG

So if you don't know, I think there are 4 Kalahari Resorts now.

KEVIN

Okay, then I know there's one up in Ohio and there's the one in Round Rock, and if there are others than that, I'm not aware.

CRAIG

But yeah, I'm sure there are more. And they're privately owned.

KEVIN

Oh, are they?

CRAIG

Yeah, it's the Roberts family that owns them. Um, and the whole, like, the whole point of these things is to help raise money to dig wells for water in Africa. Yeah, that's, that's the whole— they're trying to fund their projects over there.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

And so it's kind of, it's kind of a passion project of theirs. So that makes it kind of cool.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But it's a giant indoor water park.

KEVIN

Huge.

CRAIG

And when I say giant, I mean like massively huge indoor. I mean like it probably covers at least 5 or 6 acres indoors.

KEVIN

Indoors, yeah. It's huge.

CRAIG

Yeah. And, and parts of it even go outside. They even have out— they have outdoor pools there. We didn't get to use any of them because they were all closed because it's cold outside.

KEVIN

It was cold, yeah.

CRAIG

Except for the outdoor hot tub.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Which was cool.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but yeah, I mean, like, they have a massive wave pool. There's a big restaurant in the middle. There's like a kids' jungle gym that has one of those giant buckets that dumps water on people. And there's just a ton of rides.

KEVIN

Yeah. Like, and, and so for you, some people are probably listening to this going, indoor water park, whatever, like, it can't be that big. Like, there are, if I remember correctly, there are 4 4-person water slides. Yes.

CRAIG

And there are 4 of those. Yeah.

KEVIN

Like another 4 or 5 2-person water slides.

CRAIG

There's, so there's 6 2-person water slides.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And then, uh, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 8 single-person rides.

KEVIN

Yeah. That's, that has nothing— slides.

CRAIG

That's just slides.

KEVIN

That's just slides. So, so then they got a massive, like, 2 different kiddie areas, and one of them is like a, like a small kid area, and one's like a toddler area. It's like super shallow, and like moms hang out and chat. Then they got that, that really cool hot tub area that's like outdoor, but it's massive. They've got one area that's just like a bunch of basketball goals.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And they've got—

CRAIG

My kids loved that.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah. I was— I did too. And then, and then they have a lazy river. Yep.

CRAIG

Um, and then the, the surfing— oh yeah, surfing pool, right? Um, where you can like, like actually ride a wave. Yeah, on a boogie board or a surfboard.

KEVIN

Exactly.

CRAIG

And like there's lifeguards there that'll help you learn how to do tricks and spins and all kinds. It was— I mean, like that was the big attraction for my son in particular. I mean, he stood in line for like 3 hours. Yeah, you gotta stay in line for like 3 hours in total because he rode it like 5 or 6 times.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, it was his favorite thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so you have all that, and then before you even get in the water park, there's a massive arcade. And I say arcade, like me and you, we grew up with arcades and it was like actual games. These are all like ticket games.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I think there was maybe 6 actual game games.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

But most of them are like, spend your money and Put the ball in the jar or, you know, like whatever. All the games are there to get you tickets so that you can trade the tickets in for prizes. It's like Chuck E. Cheese.

KEVIN

Only on a— it's like, okay, it's like Chuck E. Cheese, only more like Dave Buster's, but on another level from Dave Buster's.

CRAIG

And then around all of— so like that area is called like the Tomfoolery area. And so like there's all the arcade games, but then there's other stuff that you can— they have like a bowling alley in there. There's a 3-story ropes course. There's a laser tag climbing wall. Uh, yeah, the rock— there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 different kinds of rock walls that you can climb. And those, all of those are 3 stories.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, and then there's a 4D, or is it 5D? 5D theater experience where like you actually shoot the monsters on the screen.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, there's a maze of mirrors. There's—

KEVIN

Crazy.

CRAIG

So, like, I don't— did you guys get, like, the tomfoolery package?

KEVIN

No, we didn't, because we just— we were only there for one night.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

But we got there when they opened. So, so the way— so it's also a hotel, right?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

So they've got a massive, huge, massive hotel, and they've got, um, They've got multiple restaurants as well, all this kind of— we got— but you can— so if you stay a night, let's say you stayed Friday night, when the water park opens on Friday, which is 11 typically, then you can get in at that time. And then you spend the night on Friday night, and then you get the rest of the next day as well.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So you really get 2 days if you stay 1 night.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's what we did. And so we were— we really didn't feel like we had enough time to do all of it. And frankly, we had already spent all our money. So I mean, it is not a cheap place. And, and I— different times are different prices. But in August, the beginning of August, which is when we went, it was like for the family of 4, for us, I mean, we, we spent right around $1,000.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

I mean, and we were just— and that's before we ate, that's before we did anything else. That was to go to the water park and spend the night. And so we were kind of like, this was a birthday gift for my daughter. We were like, it's about all we're gonna do. So we didn't do any of the extra stuff. My kids wanted to, and I really contemplated it because it all looked a lot of fun to me.

CRAIG

It was.

KEVIN

But I just— yeah, we decided not to. Next time we probably will.

CRAIG

So I mean, we, we did— we were there for 2 nights.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

3 days. And it was— that was, for the time that we were there, that was totally worth it.

KEVIN

No.

CRAIG

Because it, one, it gave us the ability to say no to the dumb games.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

The video games.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And be like, hey, let's go on the ropes course together, or hey, let's go shoot each other in laser tag, or hey, let's climb this rock wall, or, you know, like, stuff that you can actually do together.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's, you know, not pushing buttons.

KEVIN

And it broke up the water park, I would assume. For sure.

CRAIG

I mean, now, Oh, and there's— okay, sorry, I forgot this. There's actually an indoor roller coaster. Oh yeah, and like one of those drop towers. Now it's not a huge roller coaster, but it's there. It's, it's an interesting one. I didn't enjoy it because I'm big. Yeah, and it's for small, right? But I rode it with my kids because they wanted me to. Sure. Um, it's a neat— I mean, like, my, my youngest loved it. Yeah, and like my older 2, they rode it twice just I mean, because it was there.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I mean, they had fun.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So like for us, that was totally worth it. I mean, like we spent most of our time on the ropes course. Ropes, I mean, it's got 2 zip lines and then just all these different obstacles to get from place to place.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And we played a lot of laser tag. And the laser tag course, I mean, it's not the best laser tag course I've ever been on, but it's a pretty good one.

KEVIN

Not the worst.

CRAIG

And then they have other stuff that you can pay for. Like they have 2 escape rooms, a bowling alley. That's not part of that package, but all that stuff is there.

KEVIN

And then they've also got things like a Build-A-Bear type of place.

CRAIG

They do have that.

KEVIN

Yeah. They've got like an ice cream place and they've got, um, you know, different, different places like that. Um, but, but then, I mean, like, they've got multiple restaurants.

CRAIG

Yeah, they— so there's a steakhouse, there's an Italian restaurant, there's a burger place. And then there's a couple of little, like, fast, fast service places there. And there's, like, you know, like, a fast service place in the water park.

KEVIN

Right. And then there's a, there's a piano bar.

CRAIG

There is a piano bar. Yeah.

KEVIN

I was thinking there may be one of them. Anyway, did y'all eat there at all? Yeah.

CRAIG

We, I mean, like, we, we did bring food with us, but we decided that we were gonna eat dinner there.

KEVIN

Mhmm.

CRAIG

And we ended up eating, like, getting snacks and, and things like that. So when we, before we went, we, we read quite a bit, and there were a lot of reviews that was like, hey, the food's not really all that great.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And they weren't wrong.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

But they, they made it out to sound like it was bad.

KEVIN

I thought it was decent.

CRAIG

And it was decent. I mean, for water park—

KEVIN

For water park food.

CRAIG

You mean you're talking about in the park?

KEVIN

Yeah. I mean, all of it, in my opinion, was decent.

CRAIG

Yeah, we got a, we got a pizza in there and it was, it was pretty good. They had loaded fries in there and those were good. Um, but we ate at the, we ate at the burger place for dinner, uh, that night. And it was pretty good.

KEVIN

That's—

CRAIG

I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't like—

KEVIN

I think I told you about that place. You did. And it was, it was fine.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Like, I was like, this is a, this is a decent hamburger.

CRAIG

Nobody had some— had anything that they didn't like.

KEVIN

Sure. Um, although in the water park, they have unlimited Slurpees.

CRAIG

So yeah, you can do that. Um, my— so like, my, my son has like a food dye allergy.

KEVIN

Oh, I knew that.

CRAIG

And like, and we try and stay away from sugar as much as possible.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And so it was like, man, we can pay the $18, but there's like nothing on there we want him to have.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

And he's fine with drinking water.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So that's what we did.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Just drank water.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so yeah, I mean, like, that, that is true. You can— there's like an elephant cup that you get for like $18, and it's like unlimited refills.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, and it's like— but we did get a couple of smoothies in the park.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Uh, there's a smoothie cart, and those were actually really good. Yeah.

KEVIN

Uh, we got Dippin' Dots there too.

CRAIG

They do. And then they have like a, like a Blue Bell chocolate place.

KEVIN

Yeah, we, we did that. And one of the reasons is because they had birthday cake, which is my favorite Blue Bell. I don't like birthday cake really anything else, like other, other types of ice cream. But that one specifically is my favorite Blue Bell. Yeah, they had it. So I was like, let's do this. We literally just got ice cream. Like, we didn't do extra toppings. We didn't do the waffle cones. We didn't do anything else. And for 4 people, it was $30.

CRAIG

Oh, yeah, I don't doubt it.

KEVIN

And I hated myself inside a little bit.

CRAIG

I think I bought a peanut butter cup there. Like, it was like a— Yeah, I bet.

KEVIN

Oh, yeah. They had chocolate there.

CRAIG

Like, a chocolate—

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's what I want. I was like, man, if I'm gonna— I wanna get a peanut butter. I think it was like $8 for the peanut butter cup. Yeah.

KEVIN

They had, like, cake pops.

CRAIG

And I think literally it was like 2 Reese's peanut butter cups that they'd smushed together and then poured chocolate over the top.

KEVIN

Sure. And I was like, they got me.

CRAIG

This is a rip.

KEVIN

And it was delicious.

CRAIG

It was good. Yeah.

KEVIN

I, I think that, um, I, I think that a lot of people, you know, they, they go in having certain expectations of food whenever they pay a certain amount for it.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And I think there's also some people like us who've been a little bit spoiled by going to Disney and eating food there because I, I think the food at Disney is pretty good for what you get.

CRAIG

I mean, I've had, I've had similar experiences at Disney where it's like, it's just decent.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And again, it depends on where you go eat.

KEVIN

Exactly. And, and those of us who've been there multiple times, we kind of figured it out.

CRAIG

Yeah. So sometimes that has more to do with convenience than it does, like—

KEVIN

Oh, all the time.

CRAIG

Convenience and calories. That's exactly right.

KEVIN

And I'm hungry. But let me ask you this. So one of the things that I mentioned to you whenever— before you went is I said one of the things I found interesting about Kalahari as opposed to Great Wolf Lodge is I felt like when I was in Great Wolf Lodge, I was like, I suffocated a little bit inside because I was like, there's so much chlorine, you know, just like everywhere. But it's salt water at Kalahari.

CRAIG

Uh, not all of it.

KEVIN

Well, a majority of it is.

CRAIG

So I don't know if things have changed, but by day 3 I was burning.

KEVIN

Oh, really?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

Yeah, no, I could definitely like— and I didn't notice it the first day, but by day 3 I was like, oh, Like, well, and like, there's, there's definitely chlorine there. I mean, like, and the easiest way to tell is my youngest, her hair turns green.

KEVIN

Oh, wow.

CRAIG

And so like, I know, I know that there's chlorine in there. So.

KEVIN

But did you feel like the inside was like overly like humid and like awful? It—

CRAIG

so like, it is right as you walk in.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Like, so like you, you kind of hit that wall of humidity.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But then once you're in there, it actually feels nice.

KEVIN

Yeah, it does.

CRAIG

Um, but like coming— so you're coming from that giant room that's kind of cold.

KEVIN

Yes.

CRAIG

And so if you walk through there in your bathing suit, which you have to do—

KEVIN

You have to do.

CRAIG

So you're already kind of chilly, and when you, when you come, when you go into that room, you just, you literally hit a wall.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And you're like, ugh. But then once you're in it, you're like, oh, all right. It's because I'm, it's because I'm like, my, my body then like acclimates to the— sure, what's going on. And it's like, oh, this actually sounds kind of nice.

KEVIN

Yeah. So let me ask you this. Did you feel a little weird walking through Tomfoolery area being like, hey guys, I'm in my swimsuit, I'm walking to— I don't know if I, I guess I'm gonna have to get a locker because I got all this stuff with me. Or it's like, nope, proud to be here, don't have any shoes on because I don't want to get a locker. And so I'm like, what, how, what were your What were y'all's steps here?

CRAIG

Well, we tend to be a little more trusting. So, like, we never got a locker. We just, we kind of claimed a table and just left our stuff there. Okay. I mean, like, if they stole the one credit card in my bag, like, have fun, right? You know, because, like, none of that I'm gonna have to pay for, right? I'm not being, like, you know, what's the word? I'm not being, like, negligent or anything. It's just like, I put one credit card in my bag just in case.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

You know, and a lot of their stuff there is touchless. So, like, yeah, all you need your—

KEVIN

if you have a watch that's cellular, you're even better because then you got it really everything you need, you know.

CRAIG

Yeah. So I will say you have to have— this is the thing that blew my mind. Like, you, you have to have an armband to get in your room, to get in the park and all that kind of stuff. And it— you can attach a credit card to that, right, to your room, right? And so we just use that. Yeah. But if you lose that thing, it's like $50.

KEVIN

I know.

CRAIG

To replace it.

KEVIN

It's crazy.

CRAIG

So anyway, I don't wanna— we don't need to spend the whole show talking about it. I do, I do wanna just kind of give a brief review. So like slides, great.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Park, great. Oh, the Grotto. You probably didn't get to go in the Grotto.

KEVIN

No, we didn't.

CRAIG

So that's amazing.

KEVIN

Is it?

CRAIG

Yes. Like my wife and I are like, okay, like we kind of wanna come back here just us just so we can hang out there.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

That's— I mean, it's basically—

KEVIN

I peeked in.

CRAIG

I needed to look. You needed to look.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So the water temperature is much higher than it is in all the other pools. And it's basically a massive swim-up bar.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, it's bigger than most swimming pools that your friends have, but there's tables and roundabout lounges and then a massive bar. And there's an indoor one and an outdoor one.

KEVIN

Oh, cool. Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so that, that was, that was really cool.

KEVIN

There were a number of bars, like even down, like when you walk into the foyer, there's the one straight below that.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And it was never busy.

CRAIG

No.

KEVIN

It was completely empty most of the time.

CRAIG

It's called like the Broken Coconut or something like that. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Um, cool. And like, that was the other thing. Most everything in there is like, it just looks nice. It's decorated really well. We were in a, we were in a 2-bedroom suite.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, which was really nice.

KEVIN

Uh-huh, I bet.

CRAIG

2 bathrooms.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

Um, and fit everybody super comfortably. Um, so the really the— there was only one bad thing that happened while we were there is there's a slide in the water park called the Tanzanian Twister, which is a body slide, right? And it throws you basically into a toilet drain. Yeah, that spins you around and then dumps you out into a 9-foot pool. Yeah, it's really fun.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

When my wife came through, she smacked her head really, really hard.

KEVIN

Oh, no.

CRAIG

And I, like, I had gone before her. And so I was waiting for her and my other 2 kids to come out.

KEVIN

Couldn't warn her?

CRAIG

What? No, I'd already done it.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And but like, you know, I was— I had just gone first so that I could be there to help the kids out. And she was gonna come behind them. And I could tell as soon as she came up out of the water that something wasn't right. And I could see her mouthing to the lifeguard who was helping her get out of the pool, I hit my head. And I didn't— I didn't like— it didn't click with me later on. But like, the lifeguard turned around to the other lifeguard who was up on the deck, and he turned around and he tapped the back of his head. And I was like, oh, this is something that happens quite a bit.

KEVIN

Again.

CRAIG

Yeah. Like, they have like a—

KEVIN

they have a sign. Yeah.

CRAIG

And so as soon as she was up out of the water, like, they were, they were trying to be helpful. Like, hey, do you want to go see our, our medical team?

KEVIN

Do you?

CRAIG

And she was like, no, I think I'm okay. But like, I mean, like, even yesterday, I mean, her head was still hurting.

KEVIN

Jeez.

CRAIG

Um, and she was, she was just concerned she'd gotten a concussion.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, because I mean, like, she was like, she said when she hit the water, she was like, I didn't know which way was up. I didn't know if I was gonna black out. Um, so I mean, like, it, it shoots you out really fast.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so when she came out, that's when she smacked her head.

KEVIN

Well, and that, if I remember correctly, that's the one where it like dumps you into like a 9 or maybe an 11-foot pool.

CRAIG

It's a, it's a 9-foot pool.

KEVIN

9-foot pool. Yeah, I mean, because it, when it dumps you, it dumps you.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and it, and you need that 9 feet.

CRAIG

You do. Oh, I mean, I'm sure nobody gets to the bottom unless you're a big boy.

KEVIN

But, um, but still, like, you're probably 6 feet down at least. Like, they're probably only giving you a few feet there.

CRAIG

Yeah, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty intense.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, I mean, that was really the only downside. I mean, every— everything— I mean, like, the staff was nice, the, the, the rooms were nice, the park was fun. I mean, like, every— just a really overall good experience.

KEVIN

Yeah, cool.

CRAIG

So anyway, nice.

KEVIN

But we've talked about that for a while. Yeah.

CRAIG

So anyway, what we're here to talk about, I got a, I got a cool new toy. Yeah. Um, called the, the Grill Rescue.

KEVIN

Oh yeah. I've, I've seen like, they've done a really good job of marketing on Facebook specifically.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Um, so I've seen this thing multiple times and whenever you messaged me that you got one, I was like, all right, here we go. I want to know. I want to know.

CRAIG

Yeah. Someone gave, someone gave it to me as a present.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and It's, it's really cool. I didn't know the story behind it. Um, it was invented by a fireman.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, who wanted a safe way to clean grills.

KEVIN

Okay. Meaning there's unsafe ways to clean grills?

CRAIG

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and I, I also didn't know that this was like a, a Kickstarter.

KEVIN

Oh, I didn't either.

CRAIG

And apparently it's like one of the most successful Kickstarters ever done.

KEVIN

Really?

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

I did not know that.

CRAIG

So he, he invented this thing and the, the whole the whole point was, one, he wanted, he wanted a safer way to clean your grill without starting a fire. He's a fireman.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But also, most people tend to use wire brushes.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

On their grills.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And that can be really unsafe, apparently.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, and so like, I've watched some slow motion videos now of people using wire brushes on their grills. And I'm like, holy crap, I must have eaten a lot of wire bristles at some point in my life.

KEVIN

Probably.

CRAIG

And just didn't realize it because, I mean, like, you watch the slow motion and like there's wire bristles just flying off the thing.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so this is not a wire brush, right? So anyway, it's— I mean, like, there's, there's not a whole lot to it, right?

KEVIN

I really—

CRAIG

I wanted to do an episode on it just because, like, it's so simple and it makes sense. Like, why wouldn't you use something like this instead of that wire brush? I think, I think most people have the idea that, like, because it's a wire brush, it's going to be more effective.

KEVIN

It's cleaning something a little more harshly, therefore it's getting it more clean.

CRAIG

Well, I mean, like, and if you're using a wire brush, one of two things is happening. You're either knocking those bristles off onto your grill, right? Or you're scoring the grill, right? And, and, and knocking metal off of that.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And that's just the whole— that's the whole thing that happens when you put metal against metal, right? Metal's coming off somewhere.

KEVIN

Yeah, it is. I mean, a lot of these A lot of these grills are built with some sort of a, not necessarily a nonstick coat, but it's got, it's got some sort of a coating on there that helps with a lot of things. But you're right. I mean, if you notice, like a lot of, a lot of people's grills, they open it up, it's like, oh, this thing's rusting. Like, well, I wonder why. It's probably because you scraped all the stuff off that kept it from rusting.

CRAIG

From rusting, yeah. So unless it's cast iron, in which case that just happens.

KEVIN

It does. Yeah.

CRAIG

So you can fix that.

KEVIN

You can, yeah.

CRAIG

I'm gonna turn that off, that's kind of noisy.

KEVIN

Sir, but we need the air conditioner.

CRAIG

I know. So anyway, it's pulled out, man.

KEVIN

Let's look at it.

CRAIG

So we, we got this, this beauty right here, and like, let's see if I can take this thing off. I may not be able to.

KEVIN

Oh man, I haven't learned. I haven't—

CRAIG

I'm not a proficient—

KEVIN

you haven't mastered the skill. I haven't mastered it yet.

CRAIG

Yeah, so anyway, you've— it's a handle and then this snaps on. I've got to figure out how these snaps work. Well, kind of bugged me.

KEVIN

So I was, I was looking at it earlier, and the thing that's amazing to me is how substantial—

CRAIG

Oh, it's heavy duty.

KEVIN

That— I mean, it, it is not like— when I look at it, uh, like in, in the commercials and those sorts of things, I, I look at it and I'm like, this thing is just a plastic thing. Yeah, that's all it is.

CRAIG

And when I picked it up, like First chink in the armor is taking this stupid thing off. Jeez Louise.

KEVIN

Well, I guess it's on there.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Which is interesting because one of the things that they kind of talk about is that it's dishwasher safe.

CRAIG

It is.

KEVIN

So like you can put the thing in the dishwasher.

CRAIG

I'm gonna have to hand this thing to Kevin.

KEVIN

But—

CRAIG

I'm tired of it humiliating me.

KEVIN

You really can't get it off.

CRAIG

Good Lord. You try this thing.

KEVIN

I don't know how you put it on, so—

CRAIG

It just snaps in there.

KEVIN

It just snaps in there. Do you have to do them both at the same time?

CRAIG

Maybe.

KEVIN

Nope.

CRAIG

I don't know. I mean, I'm glad it's like secure.

KEVIN

Maybe. Yep, that thing's on there, Craig.

CRAIG

That is on there.

KEVIN

That is on there.

CRAIG

So anyway, I'll have to figure that out later. Jeez. I mean, I don't think it's on like backwards or anything. I think it goes on. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the other one. So here it is. I mean, like, that's the piece because this is the extra one. It's, it's shaped the same on both sides, so it, it can go on either way.

KEVIN

It— yeah, we're gonna need to get your dad on this.

CRAIG

I guess so. Your dad's, uh, someone with man hands.

KEVIN

Behemoth. He can—

CRAIG

yeah, I'm like gonna break break something in the studio.

KEVIN

Like your fingernail.

CRAIG

It'd be the first thing to go.

KEVIN

I'll get it off later. Yeah, for real. Jeez. But it holds together well.

CRAIG

Let's say that. Let's give it, give it its due. It's tough. Um, anyway, the way this thing works, because like you watch all these videos of guys using like scrapers and brushes and all this kind of stuff, what, what you're supposed to do, it's, it's a 3-step process. Okay.

KEVIN

Right?

CRAIG

So you heat the grill up to a minimum of 400 degrees.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And then when it reaches that temperature, you turn the heat off, you dunk this thing in water, and then you go to work on the grill. And it uses steam to clean the grill.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And that's it. And it's that simple.

KEVIN

It's brilliant.

CRAIG

I mean, it really is.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so like that steam helps release all that gunk.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Rather than scraping it off along with any other coatings or anything like that. And so you actually get the grill clean.

KEVIN

So I, I don't know, those of you who grill often probably already preheat your grill before you clean it because you've realized that is the most efficient time to clean something is whenever it's hot. So my question is, because like, let's say we just grilled some burgers, there's always some burger residue left on the Grates. Some jus.

CRAIG

Exactly. Yeah.

KEVIN

Is that a good time to clean with this thing?

CRAIG

I would think so.

KEVIN

I would think so too.

CRAIG

Yeah, I think that would be the best time.

KEVIN

I would think so too. Now, you know, everybody thinks, oh, I'm gonna get my burgers off and eat them immediately. Like, let your meat rest.

CRAIG

It's fine.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And, um, just go ahead and clean it.

KEVIN

Go ahead and clean it. It's already hot.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

It's gonna be ready for you to go next time.

CRAIG

And all you have to do is just dunk it in water.

KEVIN

Man, that's simple. I mean, that's so simple.

CRAIG

I mean, they say it's best to have like a, like a little bowl of water next to the grill, but they say you can also just run it under a faucet.

KEVIN

Which is what most people will probably do.

CRAIG

I would imagine that's what most people do.

KEVIN

But I would think that the reason that you would want that bowl is because—

CRAIG

You're gonna have to go back for more.

KEVIN

Yeah. And you can just kind of, you know, press down because it's like a sponge.

CRAIG

I mean, it is, but it's not. I mean, it's like tougher, thicker material because like one of the things that they say and like, again, I, just got it, haven't run it, you know, put it through its paces any yet. Um, but they say you really— you can buy replacement heads for this thing, but they say like they should last for years.

KEVIN

Wow. Um, yeah, interesting. And it—

CRAIG

I mean, like, the, the, the branding on it is the world's safest grill brush.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Which, I mean, again, makes sense. It's not going to start a fire, and it's not going to leave little metal pieces in for you to cooking your steak next time.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, once I saw that, I was like, I'm out, I'm done, I'm done using the wire brush, right? Like, that just grosses me out. I feel like I'm gonna like get little metal pinholes in my intestines.

KEVIN

Probably will. So yeah, yeah, it's— I mean, I think it— I— it— when I looked at it the first time, I was like, that's just a piece of plastic with some Right. With some fabric on it.

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, that is what it is.

KEVIN

Yeah, but whenever I picked it up, I'm like, that was— is heavy.

CRAIG

Yeah, it is.

KEVIN

I mean, it's not, it's not some hollow piece of plastic. Like, that thing is— you're not gonna break it. And, uh, yeah.

CRAIG

You could whoop your kids with that.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, you could. They would not do it again.

CRAIG

Nope.

KEVIN

I'll tell you that. Well, I, I'm interested. I think I might have to get one.

CRAIG

Yeah, I'd be interested to hear from people listening. I'm like, do you use a wire brush? Have you ever considered that as like a safety thing for your food or for your grilling? And would something like this interest you?

KEVIN

Well, and I'm guessing part of the reason— so I mean, surely wire brushes aren't the, the, like, the devil or anything, but what happens is someone buys one And they're like, this is the same grill brush I've been using since 1976.

CRAIG

Well, yeah, I know. I think there is a certain aspect of that to it where, like, it's like, well, I bought one and I don't want to have to replace it, right? So you keep using the same one, and so, like, you just get it, you know, whittled down, right? I mean, I have one like that.

KEVIN

Sure. I mean, and I think a lot of people do. And so, and over time, especially if it stays outside like most things do, like this, That's what's gonna happen. I love the fact that the head is replaceable on it.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Because if you—

CRAIG

And then it comes with an extra one.

KEVIN

Yeah. If you can get it off. But, like—

CRAIG

That's right.

KEVIN

But I mean, but I mean, seriously, I mean, that's one of those things, like, for me now, like, spending— so I, I just, I'm looking around, it's like $45. So you look at that and go, huh, $45 for a grill brush? But A, safer.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

B, environmentally friendly. C, it's going for—

CRAIG

No metal shards in your food.

KEVIN

Right, and it's going for a good cause. Like, a percentage of the proceeds go to fire, police, and military funds. So, like, that's a good thing. But you can just replace the head on it. Like, it's—

CRAIG

And I don't know how much the replacements are. I can't imagine they're too much.

KEVIN

I don't either, but, like, it's not a one and done. And so, like, to me, that in and of itself— oh, they're $15.

CRAIG

That's nothing.

KEVIN

I mean, you're gonna spend at least that much on a new grill, a new wire brush.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And then it's gonna have the same problem.

CRAIG

So yeah. So anyway, I'm, I'm excited about, you know, firing up my grill and cleaning it.

KEVIN

I'm excited for you to do that too. When do you want to cook for me?

CRAIG

Y'all, Kevin— I think Kevin's gotten 2 pictures of me making fried rice on that Blackstone.

KEVIN

Oh, I have.

CRAIG

So I'm actually curious if this will work on the Blackstone.

KEVIN

Well, why wouldn't it?

CRAIG

I don't, I don't have any reason to doubt that it will.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I'm just, you know, because like the, all the videos and images I've seen of it are a grate.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Cleaning a grate.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, I would imagine it's the same principle on a flat top.

KEVIN

I don't know why not. So, I mean, the only, the only thing I think you might have some issue with is just water pooling.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

But it, but if it's, if you, I mean, it's just gonna evaporate really.

CRAIG

Well, what, what happens, what happens on a flat top is if you, if you you, you use water a lot of times to release the gunk. But like on a grate, if you release the gunk, like, which is what you're doing with this, I mean, you're essentially using steam to clean the grate, and that, that gunk has the chance to fall through.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

On a flat top, it doesn't. It just evaporates the water and then it sticks back to the top.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So you've gotta— you usually have to have some sort of scraper.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

To, to get that stuff off of there.

KEVIN

That makes sense.

CRAIG

I mean, I don't know that there's— unless you just want to have, like, a second, like, soppy wet rag to, like, mop it up with.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

You're gonna have to have some sort of scraper.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and it's not even really to, like, scrape it off. You know, like, the Blackstone has that little hole at the back that you can push all your gunk to, to get it off.

KEVIN

Nice.

CRAIG

And it has, like, a little tray.

KEVIN

It's not bad.

CRAIG

Catches everything.

KEVIN

So, yeah.

CRAIG

Um, cool. Might be the only— I don't advocate for a brush on that.

KEVIN

No, but like, they— but they have stuff that they make for it, for their grill.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

Use that.

CRAIG

Yep. And it's very effective, right? So, but I'll still try the— I'll still try this.

KEVIN

Yeah, see if it works for sure. So can't hurt anything.

CRAIG

Cool, man. Anything else?

KEVIN

No, man, I think that's it. Thanks everybody for tuning in and downloading today's episode. We're here each and every Tuesday. Looking forward to a great new year here with all of you. If you haven't already, you don't want to miss an episode. Go ahead and like and subscribe. And until next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya.

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