Show notes

In this episode Craig and Kevin review the B-Hyve Smart WiFiHose Faucet Timer with Hub by Orbit. If you do not have an underground sprinkler system, but need or want the functionality of a watering alternative, you need to look into this product. With smart capabilities, and an app to run the entire system, the B-Hyve is a perfect way to get the watering functionality you need. We also show you an impressive sprinkler that Craig is pairing with the B-Hyve and getting great results.

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KEVIN

This is episode number 195 of The Homeowner Show. Whether you're a DIYer or looking to hire, we're here to help you find the best information and options for you and your home. My name is Kevin Hackett, and here with me is Craig.

CRAIG

William. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Homeowner Show. We're so glad that you could join us for another episode of The Homeowner Show here in the studio. How you doing, Kev?

KEVIN

Well, besides being extremely exhausted just from, uh, manual labor sucks. But, uh, other than that, things are good. I— we are going to do an episode on what I've been doing today. Okay. So it's coming, but you have to pay your, uh, Clubhouse dues first.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

Right. Um, but I'll tell you this, uh, the little teaser is, um, I got a taste of owning land today.

CRAIG

Oh, you got a little bit of that?

KEVIN

Yeah. So anyway, how you doing, man?

CRAIG

I am doing really, really good, man. We, uh, so I've been— we're heading out of town tomorrow, right? Um, and so I've, I've been wanting to mow my grass because I, I hate having to come home to like an unkempt lawn.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I like to come home to a nice—

KEVIN

And honestly, like, after being gone for a week, it needs it's gonna need mowed again. So it's gonna be out of control if you don't do it now.

CRAIG

Yeah, so the problem is, uh, my mower's been broken.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

What's, what's going on?

KEVIN

We need some lights.

CRAIG

Oh, sorry.

KEVIN

People can't see us.

CRAIG

Oh, that's way better. What's going on with that one?

KEVIN

I don't know. That one looks a little, a little dim.

CRAIG

Yeah, looks a little sad.

KEVIN

Well, that means I'm just gonna be a little dim. It's fine, y'all. Fine.

CRAIG

So anyway, my, my— so I've got a zero-turn mower, Cub Cadet. Yeah, it's a 46-inch deck. I've had it for like 5 or 6 years now. There used to— usually at least once a year there's something that's broken or needs to be repaired at this point. Well, all of a sudden the left transmission quit working.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And like the right one was working, so I could, you know, just sit there and spin in a circle.

KEVIN

That's not gonna move very much.

CRAIG

2 ways.

KEVIN

Oh, how about that?

CRAIG

2 different circles. Uh, just couldn't move forward and backward.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, but, and, and so I started doing some research, and it seemed like everything I came across was like, well, you can take the— you can drop that transmission and take it apart and do a rebuild, or you can buy a new one. And it's like, well, you could spend 20 hours taking the thing apart and making sure that you watch every little tiny piece that— so that you can put it right back where it belongs.

KEVIN

Uh, no thank you.

CRAIG

Yeah. Or you can spend, you know, $700 $800 on a new hydrostatic, uh, transmission.

KEVIN

Uh, no thank you.

CRAIG

Exactly. I mean, the lawnmower itself was, I think, like $3,200.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So I mean, like, at that point, like, yeah, what do you do? So, uh, I start, you know, thinking.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and I went outside just to look at it to see if I could tell that there was anything physically wrong with it. And look, you got the light to work.

KEVIN

How about that?

CRAIG

Um, and it looked— there was a cable that's attached to one of the, the arms that was loose.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And so it wasn't disengaging the parking brake from, from the transmission.

KEVIN

So that, that side literally couldn't move because it was—

CRAIG

Exactly.

KEVIN

Breaking.

CRAIG

And so, like, I would— you would push the arm and you'd hear, like, a hum, but because that gear's locked up, It couldn't move.

KEVIN

Gotcha.

CRAIG

So, and like, just so everyone knows, I've been, I've been working on little, little bitty engines since I was like 14, 15 years old. I've been doing this, like, I'm not a professional, but I can tend to make things be able to start and run and operate properly.

KEVIN

Um, good to know. Good.

CRAIG

Yeah, so I've got a little bit of experience with, with, but like honestly not a whole lot with hydrostatic transmissions. That's, that's a whole different ballgame. Um, but anyway, Upon further investigation, there is a little bitty spring that gives tension to that line in order to— so that when you move the arms in and out, it engages and disengages that parking brake.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And so when you pull them in, it actually disengages this locking mechanism. And what it does is it, it releases the tension off of the spring and pushes that thing out of the lock. so that the transmission can spin.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

And all it was was there was a spring missing.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

So, well, they don't exactly— you can't just like run down to Ace Hardware and say, hey, I need a hydrostatic transmission spring.

KEVIN

Right, can you get one of those in the back?

CRAIG

Yeah, you know, for the Cub Cadet. No, because like all of them are sort of specific.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So what I did is I And I don't know how I remembered this. I had an old doorstop.

KEVIN

Oh. Oh, yeah.

CRAIG

In the shop. Okay.

KEVIN

And one of the, one of the old ones is like—

CRAIG

Exactly. Exactly.

KEVIN

We just would kick those as a child.

CRAIG

Just to annoy the bejesus out of people.

KEVIN

Exactly.

CRAIG

Yeah. So I took that thing and I measured it against the other spring, and then I cut it.

KEVIN

Oh, my.

CRAIG

And then took some needle nose pliers and shaped it. on the ends so it would hook on.

KEVIN

Oh my goodness.

CRAIG

And it worked perfectly.

KEVIN

What?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Wow.

CRAIG

So there you go.

KEVIN

So you, you had to get into the other one, take it off?

CRAIG

Well, no, I just kind of held it up there and eyeballed it. I didn't, I didn't have the time to make this precise because I didn't even know if it was going to work, honestly. It was like, so I just, I just MacGyvered it.

KEVIN

Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

CRAIG

I, I got the lawn mowed.

KEVIN

There you go. So I mean, it looks really good.

CRAIG

Thank you.

KEVIN

I mean, from what I saw whenever it's dark.

CRAIG

It was dark. Very dark.

KEVIN

When I walk— whenever I drove in, I'm like, oh.

CRAIG

I'm gonna take the compliment, Kevin.

KEVIN

All right. You should. I drove in and I was like, oh, look, there's the lawnmower. Wow, the lawn looks really low.

CRAIG

Stuff happened here today.

KEVIN

Stuff happened.

CRAIG

I can see my shins.

KEVIN

Yeah. I'm gonna have to, uh, you know, they— the seller of our house left their riding lawnmower.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And it's going to have to get mowed tomorrow.

CRAIG

Fingers crossed.

KEVIN

Yeah, let's hope that thing starts, buddy.

CRAIG

Otherwise you're push mowing the whole thing, right?

KEVIN

Well, nope.

CRAIG

No?

KEVIN

I'm calling you.

CRAIG

I'll be in Arkansas.

KEVIN

I know where the mower is.

CRAIG

And you have my trailer.

KEVIN

That's why I have— will it fit in there?

CRAIG

Oh yeah.

KEVIN

Okay, good to know.

CRAIG

It will fit in there.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, well, anyway, speaking, speaking of lawns, we're gonna do a review today of the Beehive.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Have you heard of this? I mean, like, I know you heard of this because I told you about it.

KEVIN

I, I'd never heard of it before. I mean, whenever you said it, I was like, well, you're a beekeeper.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And so I'm thinking something along those lines, and it's not anywhere near the same.

CRAIG

No, no, it's— so this is actually made by Orbit.

KEVIN

Yeah. And so Orbit, um, for those of you who may go I feel like I've heard that, that name somewhere. So they do all kinds of, uh, like sprinklers, right? Like, well, you know, like end of the hose sprinklers. You just, you know, and they also do, um, uh, irrigation system sprinklers too. So you can buy, buy those, right?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So this is a smart water controller.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So, and it's intended to be part of a much larger system. Which I think is where the name Beehive even comes from.

KEVIN

Oh, it— I was wondering if it was called Beehive maybe because of the way it was shaped or something. I—

CRAIG

no, the, the unit itself is not shaped, but like they do have like the honeycomb shape on the box quite a bit.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's definitely, um, so I'll just, I'll just show people here. So here's the, here's the box right here.

CRAIG

Yeah, and so what it says, it says smart Wi-Fi hose faucet timer with hub. And that's, that's important, um, because you do have to have the hub. Um, and so in the back of the box, they're just showing you some different things that it can do.

KEVIN

Yep.

CRAIG

Um, but so I, right off, right off the bat, I, I got this thing because I was having some issues remembering to water some, uh, more delicate plants and some food-bearing plants on my property because I don't have an irrigation system. I don't have a sprinkler system to do those kinds of things for me.

KEVIN

Right.

CRAIG

Um, and so I was trying to figure out a way because like I don't always have the time or the energy when I get home to remember to like just stand out there and water the plants.

KEVIN

Yeah. And Orbit used to have a timer that you just buy at, you know, Home Depot or even Walmart, I think, um, that you just hook on to the end of your hose and then you run— like I had 4 different hoses coming off of it, right? And it would, it would, whenever the timer was set, it would do one and then go off and do another one, and just however you had it set. Um, and it sounds like from what I'm seeing online here, this is kind of their newer generation of that.

CRAIG

Absolutely.

KEVIN

But it's much smarter because the other one you had to manually—

CRAIG

Yeah, it was like a rotary timer, wasn't it?

KEVIN

Yeah, they had the rotary and then they had one that was digital, but you still had to change all the settings on the device.

CRAIG

Yeah, you had to go to the unit.

KEVIN

Yes. Yeah.

CRAIG

So yeah, this, this, this one obviously is gonna be a little bit more sophisticated. You know, it's— I've had it hooked up to 2 sprinklers off of 1 unit.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And I, I'm thinking that I'm gonna try it with 3, but I, I'm thinking 2's the max.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Just for the amount of water pressure you need for these sprinklers. And I, I actually have a sprinkler that I bought to go with this one. I'm gonna talk about that one a little bit later on. because the sprinkler about to go with them is super, super cool.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

But the— I mean, like, obviously the meat on the bone is going to be the Beehive. Um, so what— the way this system works, it is— it's, it's very similar to the way a lot of different systems are going now, where you have a central hub that then attaches to all the auxiliary units.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so what you have is you, you have a plug-in-the-wall hub, um, for your, for your Beehive, and then you have all of the little actual control units that then connect back to that hub. So, and I don't know exactly how many of these things that you can have on one system. I, I never saw anything on the, on the manual, in the app, or any of that kind of stuff that indicated that there was a limit. I would imagine that there is.

KEVIN

I'm looking right now.

CRAIG

But, uh, anyway, like, the way that they sell this thing, the one that I bought is the package. So you get the hub, and then the control unit, and then you can just add on control units as you go forward.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, and the control units are actually battery powered. So, so, and what's, what's nice, what's nice about that is there's no cabling or anything like that. The downside is obviously that eventually the battery will wear down, you'll have to replace it.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

Um, the units themselves are, you know, and when I, what I mean, like, the control units themselves are very, very simple. Okay.

KEVIN

Um, they—

CRAIG

man, we are— we have like this really aggressive fly in the studio tonight.

KEVIN

It's annoying.

CRAIG

Yeah. Um, but anyway, uh, the, the only thing that's on there is the, uh, hose connector, right? And then the other hose connector, the battery container, and then the on/off switch.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And that's it.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's, it's, uh, Pretty simple because the rest of the functionality is—

CRAIG

Everything's through the app. Yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah. And I'll tell you that it says you can connect as many as you want.

CRAIG

Oh, cool.

KEVIN

So there you go.

CRAIG

Unlimited. Unlimited.

KEVIN

497 is probably the place that I would tell you to go next. 497 for your acreage here. Perfect.

CRAIG

400. Yeah.

KEVIN

So now you know.

CRAIG

So, and the— I will say the only thing I had a I've had, I've had 2 issues with this system so far.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And they're not insurmountable, and I don't know that I, I would use them to discourage anybody from getting the system, but setup was a little complicated.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Um, connecting—

KEVIN

because it wasn't intuitive, is that the reason?

CRAIG

It seemed intuitive, it just, it wouldn't do it.

KEVIN

Oh, like you would, like you would do something and then it just wouldn't—

CRAIG

It wouldn't respond.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, and I don't know if that was a, a problem based off where I was trying to put it.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Because where I ended up plugging the hub in and where I ended up putting the hose outside, they weren't, they weren't really that far away, but they weren't close either.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

They weren't like right next to each other. Um, now I might recommend, um, initially putting them close together. so that, you know, it might go a little bit quicker. Okay. Sure. The, the other issue I had was actually getting the app initially to respond to the control unit.

KEVIN

Oh, to, like, detect it?

CRAIG

Well, it wasn't, it wasn't intuitive to me. Like, setting up the, the AI on it and setting up the schedule on it, no problem.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

That was pretty intuitive. If I just wanna manually turn on the hose, I couldn't— it wasn't— that wasn't really all that intuitive.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, it's almost like you're running a, uh, it feels like you're running a programming script.

KEVIN

Oh yeah, that's complicated.

CRAIG

It's a little complicated.

KEVIN

Well, and I mean, the way these things work is you turn the faucet on and you leave it on. So you can't just turn it on if— unless you tell the system to then turn on. Right?

CRAIG

And, and this one, it, it almost makes you pick an allotted amount of time that you wanna turn the hose on for.

KEVIN

Okay. So you— yeah. You know, it's interesting. So, remember whenever we reviewed the, the Rachio? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the sprinkler control.

CRAIG

Sprinkler control.

KEVIN

Smart sprinkler. which I loved. Um, and, you know, really, really great system. But it was similar. If you wanted to turn on, uh, a, a zone, you would have to tell it however long you wanted it to water for, right? So it's a similar type of thing. You can't just turn it on and walk away. Yeah, right.

CRAIG

So, and like, maybe I can, maybe I can pull this up on the screen here.

KEVIN

It's probably a good thing.

CRAIG

I do have the app.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So if I want to— let's see here. Okay, so if I want to turn my water on, there's this button right here that says water manually.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Okay, so if I hit that, it brings up all the different zones that I have. I only have one set up right now, right? So this is— it's called my pool garden because this is the garden by my pool.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So if I pull that up, See, it says 10 minutes, 00 seconds. How long do you want to run the pool garden? Okay, so I want to run it for 10 minutes. So then I have 3 options. I have the red X, the blue play, or the green check. Which one do you think you would hit?

KEVIN

I would think the blue play, but— or the green check, right? Because the green check is actually the one on the far right, and it's the thing I saw first. Yeah, but I bet it's the play button.

CRAIG

It is.

KEVIN

But why? What is the green check for?

CRAIG

Exactly.

KEVIN

Does it do anything? I haven't. I can't.

CRAIG

That was the first one I did because like it was like what? Why would that? Why the blue play and the green check?

KEVIN

Those are the same thing.

CRAIG

Those are the exact same. They don't do the same thing.

KEVIN

No, but they like theoretically those are both. Yes.

CRAIG

I think it just means like okay get out of the screen.

KEVIN

Oh, but what does the X do then?

CRAIG

Just cancels it.

KEVIN

So both of them just get out of that screen.

CRAIG

But see, and then, so I, and I think, I think this might be what the green check is for. Because when you're here, there's also a blue play button down there. Okay. So like, if you said, I wanna run it for 10 minutes, but you didn't wanna do it right then, I think you could say, to do that, but then you would have to hit the blue play button again.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

In order to do that.

KEVIN

It, it sounds to me like they had multiple developers and somewhere along the line they went, you know what, we just got to push this thing out. Yeah. Like, we can't keep making changes to it. That's most likely what happened. Um, that being said, once you figure out that functionality, it's pretty simple, right?

CRAIG

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and like, it It, it has a lot of cool data for you.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So just, just in like the My Beehive section of it, I can look at all the devices I have. I can set up device groups. I can look at all of my watering history. I can see my notifications, which I actually got a notification this morning telling me like, hey, your control unit has been disconnected from the network for an hour. You might want to check on that.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

So like, it was either like the batteries are dead or the network's down, something's going on, but this hasn't it hasn't responded.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So you need to go check on that. That was a notification I got this morning. And then there's like a help section. But like the calendar section is actually really, really cool because one of the things that you can set up with this, and this is actually my favorite thing about it, is has a smart weather connection through the app.

KEVIN

Yeah, I saw that.

CRAIG

And so it will—

KEVIN

it won't water if it knows it's going to rain.

CRAIG

And it actually has a way of detecting the amount of moisture in the soil. Oh, and it'll give you—

KEVIN

that's probably data that comes from the weather station, most likely.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Now, does it also give you the option— sorry, does it also give you the option to tell it what kind of soil it is?

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Okay, because that makes a difference too.

CRAIG

Yeah, and so your different zones can all have different soil types. Okay, and grass if it's grass. Not only, not only soil types, it asks you if it has any kind of slope.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

I mean, it, I mean, it asks all kinds of different questions when you're setting up the zones.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, so like for instance, the, the pool garden, mine has a rocky clay soil, uh, with a pretty significant slope.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, and, you know, and so it asks, it asks all kinds of different questions in order to set that zone up. And so based off that data that you input into it, it then connects you to the local weather and then will set up a smart weathering time. As— and, and so like mine just told me this morning, hey, your system's going to start watering Monday morning at 6:32.

KEVIN

Okay. Like, can you— and, and it just does that. You don't have a lot of— like, can you tell it—

CRAIG

I can tell it not to.

KEVIN

Do a skip? Because that's one of the things the Rachio did really well is it had different settings And it had the most smart setting, which was don't water unless you know it's supposed to.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

And then they have one that's kinda like, they called it Flex. And the Flex would be like, look, you want a little bit of control over it, but we're still gonna control it. And then, then the, the least amount of control that it would use is like you set your own schedule completely. So I'm sure that there's some sort of a spectrum there as well. Like, from you set your own schedule Monday through Sunday, whatever. And then, um, and I don't know why I didn't say Sunday through Saturday, but either way, you always take Sundays off. Yeah, Monday through Sunday. Um, and then all the way to just water whenever you know it needs to, right? Right. Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah. So, I mean, like, it has, it has all those different options in there.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I haven't played around with it too much. I've, I want to, I kind of wanted to see how it would do just operating all on its own.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Um, so far so good.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Yeah, like, I've been pretty happy with it.

KEVIN

I mean, because the great thing is you can go back through and find out when did it water.

CRAIG

When did it water?

KEVIN

Yeah. Yeah. And that, like, honestly, at my house now, I've got a lot of watering. Like, there's water all over my property, which is phenomenal.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Um, and, uh, the seller also left some of those tripod, um, waterers.

CRAIG

Mhm.

KEVIN

Uh, sprinklers. That's the word for them. Um, it's been a long day, y'all. Um, and I think it would be wise to— I mean, I'm on a well. I don't care how much water I use. Yeah. So, I mean, put one of, you know, one of these on each little place and—

CRAIG

Well, you care until you run out.

KEVIN

Well, it's, it's gonna be a while. I think the water table's Not gonna go anywhere anytime soon. So, um, but anyway, that's cool. Yeah.

CRAIG

So, and one of the other reasons I got this is because I also wanted to check out— I'm glad you mentioned that because I wanted to check out these new sprinklers, uh, that I bought. I brought one of them in. So it's, it's a pretty familiar brand. It's, it's Melnor.

KEVIN

Melnor? Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, if you—

KEVIN

That's not familiar to me.

CRAIG

If you, if you go in most people's yards and you see like those old— they're not old, but like the ones that are like the, the bar.

KEVIN

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG

That go back and forth. Like, I, I would wager like 7 times out of 10 it's gonna be a Melmore.

KEVIN

Oh, then I do know those brands.

CRAIG

I mean, there's other, there's other companies that make them.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But anytime I've seen one in somebody's yard, it's almost always a Melmore.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, so, but I got this one because it has so many different options and it works so well. So you can I don't know if you— can they see it in the camera? Okay, so these are obviously where the water comes out, and so these are all adjustable, uh, as to the spray pattern. The spray pattern. So you can make it super narrow, or you can make it really wide. Okay. Um, and that's what these do. And so like, if I press this one up all the way, it takes this top bar and it pushes all the water that way.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

And if I take that one and I push it down all the way, it takes all these and pushes them all this way.

KEVIN

So you can literally like it like next to a house and it'll spray away from the house.

CRAIG

Yep.

KEVIN

Like, but won't hit the house.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

Because— so I've seen, I've seen some of these before where you can adjust the pattern this way.

CRAIG

Yes. But I've never been able to see one that does one, only one way, and then— yeah.

KEVIN

Yeah, it's almost like a spreader, right? Like a— yes, like a lot of spreaders, you can have an edge guard on it, right?

CRAIG

So like on this one, let's see. So if I, if I was putting it up, let's say the side of the house is right here, I would put this one exactly like what I just did. I put it straight up and down, but then I could take this one and change them and then push it away from the house.

KEVIN

That's cool.

CRAIG

So, so that's cool. Um, this actually affects the amount of water flow. Oh, that you have. So you can adjust the pressure.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Right.

KEVIN

So, so that's where you adjust the, the spray length. Like how far it goes.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So more, less.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

So, and then it ratchets whatever direction you want to go.

KEVIN

Interesting.

CRAIG

Right. Then what I think is super cool is these adjustments. You got one on this side and you have one on this side.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

That affects the yaw in back and forth.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

So you can, you know, set it. If it's down all the way, it means that it can go all the way that way. But if I have it here and I'm— it's going to stop it right there.

KEVIN

He can change the yaw, y'all.

CRAIG

And you have one on both sides.

KEVIN

I love that. So, and, and it's, it's got a pretty wide range.

CRAIG

It does.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

And so like you can get lots of different patterns out of it and then you can, you can connect another one to it.

KEVIN

Multiple.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so nice. So I connected 2 of these to the beehive.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And, and then set them up in very specific patterns. around that garden.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Um, man, is it cool.

KEVIN

It— oh yeah, that's awesome.

CRAIG

And like, when you, when you play with this thing and you get it set up like where it's like— when it's, when it's straight up and down like that, the water pattern is only right there.

KEVIN

Wow. Yeah, that's awfully specific.

CRAIG

Yeah. And so it's like, I don't know the application that that would be good for.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

But it's nice to know that I have the option, right?

KEVIN

You live in, like, a townhome where you've got one little house.

CRAIG

I need to water the alley.

KEVIN

My 4-inch alley. That's awesome. So how much was the— were the sprinklers?

CRAIG

Those were $19.

KEVIN

Oh.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

That's not bad at all.

CRAIG

Yeah. And I bought them on Amazon.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Those were $19. That was— I wanna say it was, like, $69.

KEVIN

Yeah, so, uh, I'm looking at them right here. It looks like, um, if you just want the watering timer on their website, it shows with, with the Wi-Fi hub, it shows it to be $79.

CRAIG

Okay.

KEVIN

And then if you don't want the hub, I didn't pay— it shows it to be $59. Most likely if you buy it on a third-party website, it's probably cheaper because they're probably buying in bulk and—

CRAIG

Yeah, I mean, discount. I'm pretty sure I paid like $69.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

But, yeah, I do remember the individual units being $59. Yeah.

KEVIN

And free shipping over $35. How generous.

CRAIG

Oh, what nice people.

KEVIN

Yeah, exactly. Thank you. I have Amazon.

CRAIG

I'll just use that. So what did we— did we cut? I know we probably didn't cover everything about that just because the app is really deep.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

Like, there's a lot to cover with that app. I mean, there's, there's a calendar function. You can set up programs. It looks like there's 3 different program sets. Um, and, and programming— let me, let me, let me say this. You can set up your own program in this.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

Or you can do what they call smart watering, which is where you just let the app do the thinking for you based off the weather and the soil moisture and blah, blah, blah.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

I opted for the smart watering.

KEVIN

Yeah. That's, that's smart.

CRAIG

I figured it's—

KEVIN

no pun intended.

CRAIG

It's gonna be more economical than I would be. And, like, inevitably, I set up a program, it's gonna water on a rain day.

KEVIN

Yeah. And, you know, well, and, and look, there's so many things that you and I and everybody else that's listening to this podcast have to do. Like, I don't need to think about whenever my, my yard's gonna water, and I don't wanna go pay for an irrigation system. No. And so I, look, I, I think that things like this, like the old one, I'll tell you, the old one that I had, it worked.

CRAIG

Mm-hmm.

KEVIN

But it was, it was frustrating to set up because like just the, the system was very, um, I don't know, old. It was just, it was not intuitive. This, where you can sit inside your house and, and set it up. And at the same time, you know, that, like, it's taken care of. I don't have to worry about it. As long as, you know, someone doesn't come move the sprinkler, then, then I'm good.

CRAIG

You're in good shape.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So one of the other things I forgot to mention about this, once you get it set up, I think the beauty of this thing is the ability to control it with your phone.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, I mean, because before we did this episode, I had it hooked up and was testing it. I think it was back when we interviewed Charles. We're talking about furniture because I remember, like, showing him. I was like, hey, check this out. And I turned on the sprinklers with— he's like, that's so freaking cool.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

So, but there is a manual override on the control unit that is not super easy to use.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

And it says there's, like, their little logo with a B, and that's a button. And underneath the button it says on/off.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

And so you would think that all you really need to do is press the button and that turns it on and then press it and that turns it off. That is not how it works. Like, you have to hold it until a green light comes on and then you let go. And then when you let go, it blinks green and then it comes on.

KEVIN

And then there's a play button that just—

CRAIG

So once you know, it's like, okay, now I know how to do it. But if you're just Joe Schmo walking up to it going, I'm going to turn this thing on, it's just not going to happen and you're going to get frustrated.

KEVIN

Yeah, I mean, and, and what I found with stuff like this, the, um, there's probably instructions somewhere.

CRAIG

Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and likely a lot of these places, um, that are devices, they have instructions online, like in their app somewhere or whatever, which is great, except I'm, I'm app savvy, right? Like, I don't, I don't need your directions. Like, seriously, today the, uh, the device that we're going to, uh, review later. Um, I didn't look at the directions to put it together. Why would I? I mean, it's, it's a fairly normal device, so, right, not that big of a deal. And, and stuff like this, like, I'm app savvy, I ought to be able to figure this out. And, uh, so stuff like that does get convoluted. But here's the thing, like, I think that this is a really, really good alternative to a sprinkler system. Oh yeah, really good alternative.

CRAIG

I mean, especially when you can get if you can get these sprinklers.

KEVIN

Yeah.

CRAIG

I mean, that you can like custom shape to your yard. Yeah.

KEVIN

And, and once you have the hub, the, the devices are a lot less expensive.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Because you only have to buy the hub once.

CRAIG

Yes.

KEVIN

Right? I mean, as long as they can—

CRAIG

As long as it can reach.

KEVIN

Can reach the connection.

CRAIG

So, and all— so like, and I think the way the, the hub should be inside.

KEVIN

Oh, okay.

CRAIG

Mine's not, but it's covered and protected.

KEVIN

Okay.

CRAIG

It's out of the elements.

KEVIN

Is it in the pool area?

CRAIG

No, it's on my porch.

KEVIN

Okay. Yeah, it's under a roof.

CRAIG

Right. And I did it that way because I was like, it's going to have a better chance of connecting.

KEVIN

Sure. Yeah, it makes sense. But cool.

CRAIG

That's about it, man.

KEVIN

All right.

CRAIG

I mean, if you all have any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer them. Kevin would be happy to answer them. We got real-time experience with this thing. For what it is, man, it's a fantastic product. Sure. There are— I mean, if you aren't tech savvy, it could be frustrating for you.

KEVIN

Sure.

CRAIG

But you may also have a completely different experience from me. I found it just a little bit— the physical setting up of the devices, I found a little bit challenging and frustrating.

KEVIN

But again, the functionality that you get from it. And once you, once you do it, yeah, you've got it.

CRAIG

Once it's connected, like, the app is great to walk you through all of the setup stuff. Again, the only issue with the app was the manual watering. It took me a while to kind of figure out how that worked. And also because, um, there's a pretty, like, what I would consider a significant delay between activating that manual watering and when it actually comes on.

KEVIN

Okay, so you're, you're sitting there going, is it gonna work? Is it gonna work? work, but it's gotta— your phone's gotta connect to the hub. The hub's then gotta send a message out, and it takes 20 seconds, and you're like, holy cow.

CRAIG

I mean, and it's probably like 10, 15 seconds, but it's still like going— I'm, you know, you like— because we're so used to like things immediately responding, you know, you're like, okay, what's the deal here? Like, right? And then, and then it engages. Sure. So it does work. You just gotta give it—

KEVIN

yeah, give it a sec. Sure.

CRAIG

Got it.

KEVIN

Cool. Well, that's it for today's episode. Thank you guys for listening in and for downloading the episode today. We're getting close, Craig, to the big 200. We are not far away. So hang with us another few episodes. Tell your friends because 200, we're going to celebrate. I don't even know how, but we're going to. So yeah, if you haven't already liked our page, go to Facebook, like our page, and subscribe to the podcast. Thanks for being here, guys. Till next time, we'll see you later.

CRAIG

See ya.

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